Re: Save the Planet!

2010-03-20 Thread Paul Gear
Melissa Draper wrote:
 Greetings,

 I haven't done one of these calls for a while...

 Do you have a blog? Does it occasionally mention Ubuntu?

 If you answered yes to both of those questions, then congratulations!
 Your blog qualifies for a listing on the Ubuntu Australian Team blog
 syndication feed at http://planet.ubuntu.org.au!
 ...
 Those with existing listings on the Ubuntu-Au planet that need the URL
 updated (I'm looking at you, Ben and Harrison) or a picture added should
 also heed this invitation and send relevant information to me.

To those people who already have a blog on planet: it would be really
great if you could provide Melissa with a URL that filters out articles
on your blog that are not about Linux  Ubuntu.  I grabbed the RSS feed
and found some stuff that i consider (how can i put it nicely?)
less-than-relevant.

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Lucid Lynx Release Party Melbourne?

2010-03-20 Thread Aryan Ameri
Is there a Victorian release party for Lucid Lynx? Would sure be nice to
get to get together for this LTS release. Maybe Aubergine should be the
theme? ;-)

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Re: ComputerBank (NSW or otherwise)

2010-03-20 Thread Michael
Thanks gentlemen. I'll check the links and number.

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Re: Save the Planet!

2010-03-20 Thread Dave Hall
Hi Paul,

On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 17:14 +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
 Melissa Draper wrote:
  Do you have a blog? Does it occasionally mention Ubuntu?
 
  If you answered yes to both of those questions, then congratulations!
  Your blog qualifies for a listing on the Ubuntu Australian Team blog
  syndication feed at http://planet.ubuntu.org.au!
  ...
  Those with existing listings on the Ubuntu-Au planet that need the URL
  updated (I'm looking at you, Ben and Harrison) or a picture added should
  also heed this invitation and send relevant information to me.
 
 To those people who already have a blog on planet: it would be really
 great if you could provide Melissa with a URL that filters out articles
 on your blog that are not about Linux  Ubuntu.  I grabbed the RSS feed
 and found some stuff that i consider (how can i put it nicely?)
 less-than-relevant.

I'm not sure which items you are referring to.  I just looked at the
front page and I could only find 1 item which I thought had no
connection to Ubuntu or FOSS.

If this is to be new policy for the planet, feel free to remove my blog.
I have stated in another thread recently that I have no interest in
tagging items specifically for the ubuntu-au planet.  A lot of my stuff
is broadly related to FOSS, and you will also get some random stuff too.
The same policy applies to the LA planet.

Take the good with the bad, that is the beauty of a free for all planet.
If you don't like the planet content you are free to unsubscribe then
(optionally) subscribe to the relevant tag/s feeds of the blogs on the
planet you are interested in.

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Re: Save the Planet!

2010-03-20 Thread Paul Gear
Dave Hall wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 17:14 +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
   
 Melissa Draper wrote:
 
 Do you have a blog? Does it occasionally mention Ubuntu?

 If you answered yes to both of those questions, then congratulations!
 Your blog qualifies for a listing on the Ubuntu Australian Team blog
 syndication feed at http://planet.ubuntu.org.au!
 ...
 Those with existing listings on the Ubuntu-Au planet that need the URL
 updated (I'm looking at you, Ben and Harrison) or a picture added should
 also heed this invitation and send relevant information to me.
   
 To those people who already have a blog on planet: it would be really
 great if you could provide Melissa with a URL that filters out articles
 on your blog that are not about Linux  Ubuntu.  I grabbed the RSS feed
 and found some stuff that i consider (how can i put it nicely?)
 less-than-relevant.
 

 I'm not sure which items you are referring to.  I just looked at the
 front page and I could only find 1 item which I thought had no
 connection to Ubuntu or FOSS.

 If this is to be new policy for the planet, feel free to remove my blog.
   
I have no ability to set policy for the planet.  It was only a
suggestion.  And your blog was one of the most relevant.
 I have stated in another thread recently that I have no interest in
 tagging items specifically for the ubuntu-au planet.  A lot of my stuff
 is broadly related to FOSS, and you will also get some random stuff too.
 The same policy applies to the LA planet.
   
Stuff that is broadly related to FOSS makes sense.  Apollo missions and
open letters to TV stations seem to me to be a little hard to classify
as FOSS-related.  Maybe i missed something in the content, because as
soon as i started reading some of those key words, my brain
automatically went into skim mode...
 Take the good with the bad, that is the beauty of a free for all planet.
 If you don't like the planet content you are free to unsubscribe then
 (optionally) subscribe to the relevant tag/s feeds of the blogs on the
 planet you are interested in.
   
It's all well and good to say if you don't like it, don't subscribe,
but then i have to ask: who are we hoping to benefit by running it?  Is
it just to drive more hits to our individual blogs?  I don't subscribe
because all these people are my mates and i want to know what they are
thinking about.  I subscribe to get news relevant to the Ubuntu-AU
community.

Paul

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Re: ComputerBank (NSW or otherwise)

2010-03-20 Thread George Patterson
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Michael keltoi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks gentlemen. I'll check the links and number.

 Michael (k3lt01)


Hi Michael,

You could also try Computerbank Victoria. See
http://computerbank.org.au/ for details.

Regards


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Re: Save the Planet!

2010-03-20 Thread Paul Gear
Melissa Draper wrote:
 On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 17:14 +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
   
 To those people who already have a blog on planet: it would be really
 great if you could provide Melissa with a URL that filters out articles
 on your blog that are not about Linux  Ubuntu.  I grabbed the RSS feed
 and found some stuff that i consider (how can i put it nicely?)
 less-than-relevant.
 ...
 You're kinda missing the point of Planets. They're supposed to be about
 the people behind the group. People are multi-faceted things, and don't
 necessarily talk about Ubuntu 24/7/365.
   
In that case, i'll shut up now.
 Ours states:

 Planet Ubuntu Australia is a window into the world, work and lives of
 Australian Ubuntu developers and contributors.
I don't believe my blog really fits that description - feel free to
remove it.  My blog fits the description you pitched recently:
 Do you have a blog? Does it occasionally mention Ubuntu?

 If you answered yes to both of those questions, then congratulations!
 Your blog qualifies for a listing on the Ubuntu Australian Team blog
 syndication feed at http://planet.ubuntu.org.au!
   
To me, it doesn't seem that hard (at least, with Drupal  Wordpress it's
not) to add a tag to blog posts that says Ubuntu, then use that tag's feed.

I think there is a place for a feed of aggregated news relevant to
Australian Ubuntu users.  If planet is not the place for that, so be
it.  If anyone can point me to one that *is* the right place, i'm happy
to hear about it.  If we have the freedom to create another site as a
subdomain (e.g. news.ubuntu.org.au) which would aggregate only on-topic
content, i would be happy to assist in managing/editing it.

Paul

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Dyslexia IRC

2010-03-20 Thread Paul Gear
Norm, VK3XCI wrote:
 ...
 Sorry I wasn't at the meeting. I'm dyslexic and found the random postings 
 VERY 
 hard to follow. Ended up printing out the log and going through it with a 
 couple 
 of hi-lighters. No way I could do it in real time!
Hi Norm,

Your comment got me thinking - i don't know a lot about dyslexia and
what it means for the way dyslexics operate online.  I was emailing a
dyslexic guy the other week and i inadvertently made it hard for him to
understand me due to the way i quoted and the way i phrased my
questions.  IRC is used very commonly to support Ubuntu, and Free
Software in general.  Would you be willing to explain a little further
how the condition works (especially with respect to email  instant
messaging/chat) and perhaps suggest what steps we could take to support
dyslexic people better?

Thanks,
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Brisbane Ubuntu Community Meeting - 7th February, 2010.

2010-03-20 Thread James Beake
A very late write-up from our most recent meeting. Enjoy.

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The second Brisbane Ubuntu community meeting was held at Gilhooley's
Chermside, a typical Irish style pub. As I was the nominated meeting
organiser for the event so I got there early, ordered a Kilkenny and sat
back to wait for folks to arrive.

I found myself scrutinising everyone that walked past to see if I could
identify if the person was an ubuntu user. Not sure what I was thinking;
that by using ubuntu we are all somehow develop a power to be able to
instantly recognise another member of the tribe. Anyway my powers were on
the fritz that day as all I managed to do was get some odd looks from some
poor people that where wandering around just trying to find the loo.

Do we ubuntu users need to come up with a secret signal so that we can pick
each other out in public?

What a relief when I recognised someone from our previous meeting. Andrew
was at the other side of the room near the bar scanning the area for signs
of ubuntu geeks. At about the same time a couple of other ubuntu-ers arrived
and the combination of swivelling heads and searching looks and my vigorous
arm waving must have been enough of a signal to everyone that like minded
people were in the area and we were all soon seated and making
introductions. The last couple of attendees to arrive seemed to have no
trouble finding us. Might have been due to the laptops and other gadgets
that had appeared soon after we were all seated.

It was great to see a 50% increase in attendance for this meeting. There
were six of us at the meeting! Fingers crossed we can match this growth for
our next meeting.

After we completed the introductions everyone started talking about their
favourite topic, tech. There were a number of different conversations at the
same time, here is a list of the ones I was apart of, or caught snippets of:

- Conroy's filter plans ( what's a gathering without a bit of political
chat)
- Calendar synchronisation
- How to secure home environments with tools that work with ubuntu
- Options for ditching itunes for teenagers with iPods.
- Are we brave enough to install Ubuntu on relatives computers?

Packages/products discussed:
- ispconfig
- amsn
- atunes
- xaile
- quickcad
- spyspurt
- GNOME configuration cleanup tool - name?
- randr.com
- Lenovo D10 server


Just before we pulled stumps Paul asked each of us What is the one thing
you would change about Ubuntu if you could?

Here are the answers everyone gave:

Cary: combined DVD of all *buntu, no need to carry separate CDs for server,
desktop, Kubuntu, etc.

Andrew: fix the regressions, esp. laptop power management

David: iPod/Nokia/electronic device support

James: added onto Andrew's point on laptop power management; more intuitive
keychain password management when passwords change

Nigel: slick shared calendar across all desktop apps

Paul: compelling web admin interface for directory/file
sharing/email/calendar setup; Active Directory  Exchange are killing us in
this space

Just before everyone went their own way we agreed our goal should be to all
have ubuntu tee shirts so that we at least can find each other and hopefully
raise the profile of ubuntu at our next gathering.

We finished the meeting at about 5pm. Three hours goes fast when you having
fun. I had a great time geeking out with a group of like minded people and
am looking forward to our next gathering. Hopefully we can lure more ubuntu
users and people who are curious about ubuntu and open source in general to
our next meeting.

The list of attendees and where they travelled from to attend:
Andrew - Mt Gravatt
James - Mcdowall
Nigel - Hendra
Cary - Wamuran (Caboolture)
David - Springfield
Paul - Birkdale
Thanks to Paul for taking notes during the meeting.

Next meeting: Release party for Ubuntu 10.4 - Lucid at Breakfast Creek
Hotel. Date TBD - End of April/Early May.

Until then, as my wife likes to says, Shouldn't you, Ubuntu?.

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Re: Brisbane Ubuntu Community Meeting - 7th February, 2010.

2010-03-20 Thread AndrewG
Great write up James.
Where are the photos 

On Mar 21, 1:09 pm, James Beake jamesbe...@moonmarsh.com wrote:
 A very late write-up from our most recent meeting. Enjoy.

 ---
 The second Brisbane Ubuntu community meeting was held at Gilhooley's
 Chermside, a typical Irish style pub. As I was the nominated meeting
 organiser for the event so I got there early, ordered a Kilkenny and sat
 back to wait for folks to arrive.

 I found myself scrutinising everyone that walked past to see if I could
 identify if the person was an ubuntu user. Not sure what I was thinking;
 that by using ubuntu we are all somehow develop a power to be able to
 instantly recognise another member of the tribe. Anyway my powers were on
 the fritz that day as all I managed to do was get some odd looks from some
 poor people that where wandering around just trying to find the loo.

 Do we ubuntu users need to come up with a secret signal so that we can pick
 each other out in public?

 What a relief when I recognised someone from our previous meeting. Andrew
 was at the other side of the room near the bar scanning the area for signs
 of ubuntu geeks. At about the same time a couple of other ubuntu-ers arrived
 and the combination of swivelling heads and searching looks and my vigorous
 arm waving must have been enough of a signal to everyone that like minded
 people were in the area and we were all soon seated and making
 introductions. The last couple of attendees to arrive seemed to have no
 trouble finding us. Might have been due to the laptops and other gadgets
 that had appeared soon after we were all seated.

 It was great to see a 50% increase in attendance for this meeting. There
 were six of us at the meeting! Fingers crossed we can match this growth for
 our next meeting.

 After we completed the introductions everyone started talking about their
 favourite topic, tech. There were a number of different conversations at the
 same time, here is a list of the ones I was apart of, or caught snippets of:

 - Conroy's filter plans ( what's a gathering without a bit of political
 chat)
 - Calendar synchronisation
 - How to secure home environments with tools that work with ubuntu
 - Options for ditching itunes for teenagers with iPods.
 - Are we brave enough to install Ubuntu on relatives computers?

 Packages/products discussed:
 - ispconfig
 - amsn
 - atunes
 - xaile
 - quickcad
 - spyspurt
 - GNOME configuration cleanup tool - name?
 - randr.com
 - Lenovo D10 server

 Just before we pulled stumps Paul asked each of us What is the one thing
 you would change about Ubuntu if you could?

 Here are the answers everyone gave:

 Cary: combined DVD of all *buntu, no need to carry separate CDs for server,
 desktop, Kubuntu, etc.

 Andrew: fix the regressions, esp. laptop power management

 David: iPod/Nokia/electronic device support

 James: added onto Andrew's point on laptop power management; more intuitive
 keychain password management when passwords change

 Nigel: slick shared calendar across all desktop apps

 Paul: compelling web admin interface for directory/file
 sharing/email/calendar setup; Active Directory  Exchange are killing us in
 this space

 Just before everyone went their own way we agreed our goal should be to all
 have ubuntu tee shirts so that we at least can find each other and hopefully
 raise the profile of ubuntu at our next gathering.

 We finished the meeting at about 5pm. Three hours goes fast when you having
 fun. I had a great time geeking out with a group of like minded people and
 am looking forward to our next gathering. Hopefully we can lure more ubuntu
 users and people who are curious about ubuntu and open source in general to
 our next meeting.

 The list of attendees and where they travelled from to attend:
 Andrew - Mt Gravatt
 James - Mcdowall
 Nigel - Hendra
 Cary - Wamuran (Caboolture)
 David - Springfield
 Paul - Birkdale
 Thanks to Paul for taking notes during the meeting.

 Next meeting: Release party for Ubuntu 10.4 - Lucid at Breakfast Creek
 Hotel. Date TBD - End of April/Early May.

 Until then, as my wife likes to says, Shouldn't you, Ubuntu?.

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Re: Dyslexia IRC

2010-03-20 Thread Norm, VK3XCI
Hi Paul and others,

I have in fact got a work-in-progress on this very issue. I've had 
sixty-something years to sort it out, and my case was pretty mild to start 
with. My son is not so lucky, 'tho' not as bad as some.

Basically, looking at a printed page is chaos, literally, and requires some 
effort to restore order. Considerable effort in some cases. So much so that by 
the time you get to reading the last word on a line the first is forgotten, so 
making sense of it all can be quite draining.

Now, consider what happens when the page is chaos to start with!

Some IM clients allow you to set a colour for each person. That works like a 
treat!

Having said that, there are more variations and permutations of Dyslexia than 
we 
can ever enumerate. It's a pretty individual thing from reading the the odd 
word 
backwards (Skabetti is the classic!) to the aforementioned full blown chaos!

Some people such as myself, become extremely pedantic about the written word. 
Others, like my son, cheerfully embrace the chaos.

Thank you for asking! Being a community thing, perhaps there is somewhere on 
Ubuntu I could post some info... or maybe I should blog it myself?

Meanwhile...
keep all sentences short with one subject and one predicate (look it up :) )
use lotsa dot points for questions
leave plenty of white space to break up the chaos.
If yu carnt undastand it, reed it owt lowd.  :)




73 de Norm, VK3XCI
Mildura, Australia
The Wintersun City
QF15bt.

Paul Gear wrote:
 Norm, VK3XCI wrote:
 ...
 Sorry I wasn't at the meeting. I'm dyslexic and found the random postings 
 VERY 
 hard to follow. Ended up printing out the log and going through it with a 
 couple 
 of hi-lighters. No way I could do it in real time!
 Hi Norm,
 
 Your comment got me thinking - i don't know a lot about dyslexia and
 what it means for the way dyslexics operate online.  I was emailing a
 dyslexic guy the other week and i inadvertently made it hard for him to
 understand me due to the way i quoted and the way i phrased my
 questions.  IRC is used very commonly to support Ubuntu, and Free
 Software in general.  Would you be willing to explain a little further
 how the condition works (especially with respect to email  instant
 messaging/chat) and perhaps suggest what steps we could take to support
 dyslexic people better?
 
 Thanks,
 Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: elections

2010-03-20 Thread Michael
On Mar 21, 12:52 pm, Melissa Draper meli...@meldraweb.com wrote:

 I find Folks to be a much more inclusive replacement.

 I'd also appreciate not have to defend my preference for women being
 visible/women as opposed to invisible/honorary guys on this list.

 --
 Melissa Draper
Folks is inclusive if your with your folks. However not one of you
people is my kin folk so it does not really apply in a strict sense.

We could all get extremely pedantic about phraseology here. I think we
would all like to not have to defend our preferences so may I just
suggest we drop all the PC (not personal computer) stuff. This is the
21st century and we should at least be mindful that no one has set out
to deliberately offend others.

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