Re: Results of IRC Meeting Poll

2010-05-15 Thread James Beake
As a member of this community that usually is not keen to weigh into these
debates I think it's time to stand up and be counted.

On 16 May 2010 00:32, Dave Hall  wrote:

> Hi Scott,
>
> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:15 +1000, Scott Evans wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:04 +1000, Dave Hall wrote:
> > > I would suggest that we stick to the regular meeting cycle as proposed
> > > by Peter and in the intervening 3 weeks or so we try to develop some
> > > consensus around the issues, rather rush a meeting so issues can be
> > > railroaded.
> >
> > This my point ...  a person (me) decides to use initiative and I get
> > stomped on for trying!
>
> There is doing things properly and there is doing things badly.  As
> someone who has a lot of experience of FOSS communities and community
> groups in general, I feel that I have some responsibility to point out
> when I feel that people are making mistakes.  This was one of those
> occasions.
>

I disagree and I think there is room for both IRC meetings to  go ahead.
There will be plenty to talk about and this community needs to take all
the opportunities we can get to meet with each other, build a sense of
belonging and get inspired to do great things for Ubuntu.


> > So as far as I'm concerned the meeting will go ahead as published...
>
> I don't think that is a very good idea if you want it to have much
> credibility.
>

I don't agree. Scott, you have my support.

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Re: Results of IRC Meeting Poll

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Hall
Hi Scott,

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:15 +1000, Scott Evans wrote: 
> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:04 +1000, Dave Hall wrote:
> > I would suggest that we stick to the regular meeting cycle as proposed
> > by Peter and in the intervening 3 weeks or so we try to develop some
> > consensus around the issues, rather rush a meeting so issues can be
> > railroaded. 
> 
> This my point ...  a person (me) decides to use initiative and I get
> stomped on for trying!

There is doing things properly and there is doing things badly.  As
someone who has a lot of experience of FOSS communities and community
groups in general, I feel that I have some responsibility to point out
when I feel that people are making mistakes.  This was one of those
occasions.

> So as far as I'm concerned the meeting will go ahead as published...

I don't think that is a very good idea if you want it to have much
credibility.

Cheers

Dave


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Re: Results of IRC Meeting Poll

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Evans
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:04 +1000, Dave Hall wrote:
> I would suggest that we stick to the regular meeting cycle as proposed
> by Peter and in the intervening 3 weeks or so we try to develop some
> consensus around the issues, rather rush a meeting so issues can be
> railroaded. 

This my point ...  a person (me) decides to use initiative and I get
stomped on for trying!

So as far as I'm concerned the meeting will go ahead as published...

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Re: Results of IRC Meeting Poll

2010-05-15 Thread Dave Hall
On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 22:46 +1000, Scott Evans wrote: 
> Hi...
> 
> OK the result of the poll held for what night/time would suite most has
> now ended, the results is...

We only had 30hrs starting at COB Friday to respond?  I think 2 clear
business days would be far more appropriate.  

Peter's proposed date and time wasn't included.  This time had 1 person
support it on the list.

Meetings are not always the most inclusive or efficient way of
discussing issues and progressing them.  The mailing list provides a far
more flexible forum for people to participate in the discussion/debate.

I would suggest that we stick to the regular meeting cycle as proposed
by Peter and in the intervening 3 weeks or so we try to develop some
consensus around the issues, rather rush a meeting so issues can be
railroaded.

Cheers

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Results of IRC Meeting Poll

2010-05-15 Thread Scott Evans
Hi...

OK the result of the poll held for what night/time would suite most has
now ended, the results is...

== AustralianTeam Meeting DATE: 17th May 2010, 21:00 EST / 11:00 UTC ==

irc.freenode.com  #ubuntu-au

Please review the proposed agenda at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings and add anything you
feel should be discussed.

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