subject:"Re\: \[Ubuntu\-BD\] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro"

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:44 PM, DarkLord (:= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  You could have visited their site
>

আপনি কিভাবে মনে করলেন যে আমি তাদের সাইটে যাইনি?
আপনি আসলে বুঝতেই পারেননি আমি কি বলেছি।

প্রতিটা ডিস্ট্রো/ ডেস্কটপ এ্যানভায়ার্মেন্ট তাদের নিজেদের ফিচার লিস্ট,
প্রিভিউ/রিভিউ লিখে থাকে। উবুন্টুর জন্যও আমরা তাই করি। কিন্তু উবুন্টু
অফিসিয়াল সাইটে বা নিউজ সাইটে যেসব বিষয়ে আলোচনা করে তা পড়া এক জিনিস আর আসল
ডিস্ট্রো বা ডেস্কটপ এ্যানভায়ারমেন্ট ব্যবহার করা আরেক জিনিস।  আমি এখন পর্যন্ত
যে লিস্ট পড়ছি তাতে এটা আর এক্সএফসিই-এর এলএক্সডিই কেনো ভালো তা বুঝতে পারছি
না।

যেহেতু আমি ব্যবহার করতে পারছি না তাই দেখতে পারছি না কোন কোন  এ্যাপ্লিকেশনে
কি কি জিনিস আছে। *কি কি এ্যাপ্লিকেশন আছে তার চেয়ে বেশি জরুরী কিন্তু ওই
এ্যাপ্লিকেশনগুলোর ভিতরে কি কি সুবিধা আছে এবং আমি কিসের জন্য ওই এ্যাপ্লিকেশন
ব্যবহার করবো তা উপলোব্ধী করা*। *

শুধু হালকা হওয়াটাই কখনও যথেষ্ঠ কারণ হতে পারে না।*
কেডিই নোমের চেয়ে কিছুটা ভারী ক্ষেত্র বিশেষে, কিন্তু আমি কেডিই ব্যবহার করি
কারণ এর এ্যাপ্লিকেশন ফিচারের জন্য (উদাহরণসরুপ: ডলফিনের ভিতরেই কোন
ফাইল/ফোল্ডার রুট এক্সেসে চালানোর ফিচার। আমার কাছে ডলফিন আছে নাকি তার চেয়ে
বেশি গুরুত্বপূর্ণ ডলফিনের ভিতরে কোন এই বিশেষ ফিচার আছে কিনা তাই বেশি
গুরুত্বপূর্ণ। *যেমন কেডিই ৪ এ ডলফিন ঠিকই আছে কিন্তু উক্ত রুট এক্সেসের
সুবিধাটি নেই। তাই ডলফিন থাকলেও আমার কাছে একটি ফিচার নাই মনে হচ্ছে)*

আমি আপনার কাছে যা চাচ্ছিলাম তা হচ্ছে যে কোন এ্যাপ্লিকেশনে কি কি বিশেষ সুবিধা
আছে তার একটি বিবরন বা স্ক্রিনশট দেয়া (কি কি এ্যাপ্লিকেশন আছে তা জানা নয়, ওটা
আমি গুগল করে বা ওদের ওয়েব সাইটেই দেখতে পারছি)।

তাও যদি আপনি না বুঝেন তাহলে পরবর্তীতে দেখা হলে আপনি উক্ত এলএক্সডিই -র কপি
সিডিতে করে আনবেন আমি ব্যবহার করে দেখবো।

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-09 Thread DarkLord (:=

  You could have visited their site
ok here is copy past from site

CPU Pentium II 266 MHz RAM 192 Hard Disk 5400 rpm moderate - fast

VIA 400 MHz RAm 256 MB  HDD 5400 rpmmoderate - fast

Pentium III 600 MHz 512 MB  4500 rpm  - fast

QEMU emulation on AMD Athlon 1.6(1.4 GHz) ram 128 MB QEMU disk image fast

AMD Athlon 1.6 (1.4 GHz)512 MB  7200 rpmvery fast


Recommended configuration

 * The hardware requirements of LXDE are similiar to Windows 98 
(Maybe a little bit higher). An old Pentium II CPU is enough.
 * After X11 and LXDE are started, the total memory usage is about 
45 MB on i386 machines. (This value may be higher or lower according to 
different system configurations.)
 * Though LXDE itself doesn't require better hardware, other 
applications under X do need it. For example, Firefox and OpenOffice.org 
2 are quite memory-hungry. So it's recommended that you have a RAM of 
more than 128 MB.


Components

PCManFM
 The ultimate fast and robust file manager. It provides tabbed file 
browsing and desktop icons with low system resource usage.
LXPanel
 Feature-rich yet user-friendly desktop panel providing most crucial 
functions you expect from a desktop panel. Configuration is done through 
a graphic user interface.
LXSession
 Standard-compliant X11 session manager with shutdown/reboot/suspend 
supports via HAL and gdm (LXSession Lite is a stripped-down lightweight 
version without X11 session management support, and it's more stable).
LXAppearance
 LXAppearance is a new feature-rich GTK+ theme switcher able to 
change GTK+ themes, icon themes, and fonts used by applications.
LXLauncher
 LXLauncher enables the desktop to have topic oriented desktops.
Openbox
 Lightweight, standard-compliant, and highly-configurable window 
manager (adapted by LXDE. We suggest using this as default window 
manager.). This can be replaced by any other window manager like icewm, 
fluxbox, metacity, ...etc.
GPicView
 A very simple, fast, and lightweight image viewer featuring 
immediate startup.
Leafpad
 Lightweight and simple text editor adapted by LXDE. (We suggest 
using this as default text editor.).
LXDE Common
 LXDE Common is the default settings configuration file for 
integrating the different components of LXDE. LXDE Common manages the 
system behavior and functions to integrate icons and artwork.
LXTerminal
 Desktop-independent VTE-based terminal emulator for LXDE without 
any unnecessary dependency (All instances share the same process to 
reduce memory usage).
XArchiver
 Lightweight, fast, and desktop-independent gtk+-based file archiver 
(adapted by LXDE. We suggest using this as as default archiver).
LXRandR
 Monitor configuring tool. You can plug in another screen into LXDE 
or choose to use a big screen projector. Local screen and extenal screen 
can be used at the same time. LXRandR configures the screen solution 
automatically.
LXNM
 Lightweight network connection manager. LXNM is a helper daemon for 
LXDE supporting wireless connections (Linux-only).
GtkNetCat
 Graphic User Interface for netcat. Netcat provides system functions 
as a computer networking utility for reading from and writing to network 
connections on either TCP or UDP.


Features

Lightweight

 It needs less CPU and performs extremely well with reasonable memory.

Fast

 It runs well even on older computers produced in 1999.
Energy saving
 It requires less energy to perform tasks to other systems on the 
market.

Simply Beautiful

 It includes an internationalized and polished user interface 
powered by GTK+ 2.

Easy to use

 It provides a choice to use the simple eeepc like Launcher user 
interface or a MS Windows like application panel.

Customizable

 It is easy to customize the look and feel of LXDE.

Additional Features

 It offers additional features like tabbed file browsing or menu run 
dialogs known from operating systems like Mac OS. Icons of new 
applications show up after install on desktop.

Desktop independent

 Every component can be used independently from other components of 
LXDE offering the flexibility to use LXDE parts with different Unix like 
systems.

Standard compliant

 It follows standards as specified by freedesktop.org.


Distros currently using LXDE

PUD GNU/Linux

 Ubuntu-based installable live cd with LXDE.

TinyMe

 PCLinuxOS-based tiny distro using some components of LXDE.

Slitaz

 Extremely small live cd using most of the components of LXDE.

Greenie

 Ubuntu-based OS with LXDE and GNOME desktop enviroments.

Ubuntulite

 Member of Ubuntu Derivatives featuring LXDE.

Vectorlinux LITE

 VectorLinux LITE edition.

Myah OS 3.0 Box edition

 LXDE flavor of Myah OS.

gOS 3.0

 Linux with Google gadgets and LXDE components.

Zenwalk 3.0

 Multi-purpose Linux with LXDE components focusing on Internet 
applications, multimedia and programm

Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008/12/9 Nasimul Haque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> আমাকে জিজ্ঞেস করে কোন লাভ আছে বলে মনে হয় না। আমার সর্বকালের সবচেয়ে বেশি
> পছন্দ এনলাইটেনমেন্ট। কোনরকম ৩ডি কার্ড ছাড়াই ৩ডি ইফেক্ট পাওয়া সম্ভব, এটা শুধু
> এই ডিএম-ই পারে। একেবারে সবকিছু কনফিগার করা সম্ভব। সমস্যা হলো এর বেটা ভার্সন
> কবে স্ট্যাবল ভার্সন হবে, কেউ জানে না। যদিও আমি বেটাই চালাই কোন সমস্যা ছাড়া।
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
> ...
>

:))

আমি আন্দাজ করেছিলাম এরকম কিছু বলবেন :) (এনলাইটমেন্টের কথা আপনার কাছেই প্রথম
শুনেছিলাম)


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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-09 Thread Nasimul Haque

2008/12/9 Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> হুমমম আচ্ছা। ফিচার লিস্ট কিরকম? আমাদের একটা জিনিস দেখতে হবে, রিসোর্স কম নেয়
> যাতে এই দিকটা বেশি প্রাধান্য দিতে গিয়ে যেনো এমন কোন সিস্টেম তৈরি না করে বসি
> যা উইন্ডোজ ৯৫/৯৮ এর মতো হবে সীমিত ফিচারসহ। আমাদের ফিচার/পাওয়ার এবং রিসোর্স
> এই দুই বিষয়ের মাঝে সামঞ্জস্য আনতে হবে। আর কারো কোন সাজেশন আছে? নাসিম ভাই তো
> বেশ কয়েকটি এ্যানভায়ারমেন্টে কাজ করেছেন, আপনি কি বলেন?
>

আমাকে জিজ্ঞেস করে কোন লাভ আছে বলে মনে হয় না। আমার সর্বকালের সবচেয়ে
বেশি পছন্দ এনলাইটেনমেন্ট। কোনরকম ৩ডি কার্ড ছাড়াই ৩ডি ইফেক্ট পাওয়া
সম্ভব, এটা শুধু এই ডিএম-ই পারে। একেবারে সবকিছু কনফিগার করা সম্ভব।
সমস্যা হলো এর বেটা ভার্সন কবে স্ট্যাবল ভার্সন হবে, কেউ জানে না। যদিও
আমি বেটাই চালাই কোন সমস্যা ছাড়া।

আর একটা লাইটওয়েট ডিএম হচ্ছে ফ্লাক্সবক্স। এটা আমার দ্বিতীয় পছন্দ।

এগুলো আসলে নবীশ ব্যবহারকারীদের জন্য না। কারণ, অনেক কিছু নিজ হাতে
কনফিগার করতে হয়। তাছাড়া অনেক কনসেপ্টও ভিন্ন। এক্সএফসিই-ই ভালো হবে
নতুনদের জন্য। কেননা এটাতে নোম-নোম গন্ধ আছে। ব্যবহারকারীদের নতুন করে
আবার শিখতে হবে না।

e17 -এর কিছু সৌন্দর্য
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v38FnpII-l8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10kg2aSB8q4
উল্লেখ্য, এসব ইফেক্ট কোনরকম ভিডা-ফিডা কার্ড ছাড়াই চলে। মানে রিসোর্স
খুবই কম লাগে।

সংবিধিবদ্ধ সতর্কীকরণঃ এটা সরাসরি উবুন্তুতে নাই। elbuntu ব্যবহার করে
এটা ইনস্টল করতে হয় এবং আইবেক্সের প্যাকেজ এখনও আসে নাই।

নাসিম

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Wessex Institute of Technology
Southampton, UK
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is nothing much to review.it hav limited amount of app including
> filemanager. But the thing is its damm lite kde/windows like taskber
> application menu etc
>

হুমমম আচ্ছা। ফিচার লিস্ট কিরকম? আমাদের একটা জিনিস দেখতে হবে, রিসোর্স কম নেয়
যাতে এই দিকটা বেশি প্রাধান্য দিতে গিয়ে যেনো এমন কোন সিস্টেম তৈরি না করে বসি
যা উইন্ডোজ ৯৫/৯৮ এর মতো হবে সীমিত ফিচারসহ। আমাদের ফিচার/পাওয়ার এবং রিসোর্স
এই দুই বিষয়ের মাঝে সামঞ্জস্য আনতে হবে। আর কারো কোন সাজেশন আছে? নাসিম ভাই তো
বেশ কয়েকটি এ্যানভায়ারমেন্টে কাজ করেছেন, আপনি কি বলেন?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-09 Thread dark lord

There is nothing much to review.it hav limited amount of app including
filemanager. But the thing is its damm lite kde/windows like taskber
application menu etc

On 12/9/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:00 PM, DarkLord (:= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> checkout from here:
>>
>> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-great-alternative-desktop-managers-for-linux/
>>
>
> তাতো বুঝলাম ভাই। কিন্তু ব্যক্তিগতভাবে রিভিউ দেখলে আরও ভালো হয়। সব ডেস্কটপ
> এ্যানভায়ার্মেন্ট সম্পর্কে এমন লেখা পাওয়া যাবে।
> (ভিস্তার এরকম লেখা অনেক পাবো, তারমানে তো ভিস্তা খুব ভালো এমন তো নয়?)
>
> যদি পারেন তাহলে ব্যক্তিগতভাবে কিছু স্ক্রিনশট দিয়ে প্রিভিউ দিন অথবা সম্পূর্ন
> রিভিউ লিখে ফেলেন।
> আমার ইন্টারনেট সংযোগ খুবই ধীর তাই আমার পক্ষে বিশেষ পরীক্ষানিরীক্ষা সম্ভব না
> :(
>
>
> --
> Thanking you
> Shahriar
>
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> http://forum.linux.org.bd
>
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>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:00 PM, DarkLord (:= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> checkout from here:
>
> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-great-alternative-desktop-managers-for-linux/
>

তাতো বুঝলাম ভাই। কিন্তু ব্যক্তিগতভাবে রিভিউ দেখলে আরও ভালো হয়। সব ডেস্কটপ
এ্যানভায়ার্মেন্ট সম্পর্কে এমন লেখা পাওয়া যাবে।
(ভিস্তার এরকম লেখা অনেক পাবো, তারমানে তো ভিস্তা খুব ভালো এমন তো নয়?)

যদি পারেন তাহলে ব্যক্তিগতভাবে কিছু স্ক্রিনশট দিয়ে প্রিভিউ দিন অথবা সম্পূর্ন
রিভিউ লিখে ফেলেন।
আমার ইন্টারনেট সংযোগ খুবই ধীর তাই আমার পক্ষে বিশেষ পরীক্ষানিরীক্ষা সম্ভব না
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-08 Thread DarkLord (:=

checkout fro here:


http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-great-alternative-desktop-managers-for-linux/

http://www.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/lxde.jpg


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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

Its make my document and computer on desktop. Application menu at
boottom just what i wanted.

It hav lightwate pcman file manager faster then notilas.

On 12/8/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think fedora 10 using this desktop manager too.why dont u install
> and check that. See its good enough to replace xfce.
>
> On 12/8/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ok i'll check. It have lightwate file manager and YA ITS DAMM FAST.
>> just got addon cd from sallauddin i'll check that too
>>
>> On 12/8/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
 Just downloaded it ya its lite.check out just 9 mb

>>>
>>> Great :) give some screenshot (review would be better).
>>>
>>> what I read it can use gnome (gtk+) apps. Also possible to use theme of
>>> http://gnome-look.org .
>>>
>>> Highly customizable (don't have to use full desktop if we don't want to)
>>>
>>> what else goes toward it??
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

I think fedora 10 using this desktop manager too.why dont u install
and check that. See its good enough to replace xfce.

On 12/8/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok i'll check. It have lightwate file manager and YA ITS DAMM FAST.
> just got addon cd from sallauddin i'll check that too
>
> On 12/8/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Just downloaded it ya its lite.check out just 9 mb
>>>
>>
>> Great :) give some screenshot (review would be better).
>>
>> what I read it can use gnome (gtk+) apps. Also possible to use theme of
>> http://gnome-look.org .
>>
>> Highly customizable (don't have to use full desktop if we don't want to)
>>
>> what else goes toward it??
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Shahriar
>>
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>>
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>>
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Ok i'll check. It have lightwate file manager and YA ITS DAMM FAST.
just got addon cd from sallauddin i'll check that too

On 12/8/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Just downloaded it ya its lite.check out just 9 mb
>>
>
> Great :) give some screenshot (review would be better).
>
> what I read it can use gnome (gtk+) apps. Also possible to use theme of
> http://gnome-look.org .
>
> Highly customizable (don't have to use full desktop if we don't want to)
>
> what else goes toward it??
>
>
> --
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> Shahriar
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-08 Thread Shahriar Tariq

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 3:23 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just downloaded it ya its lite.check out just 9 mb
>

Great :) give some screenshot (review would be better).

what I read it can use gnome (gtk+) apps. Also possible to use theme of
http://gnome-look.org .

Highly customizable (don't have to use full desktop if we don't want to)

what else goes toward it??


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Just downloaded it ya its lite.check out just 9 mb

On 12/8/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:38 AM, DarkLord (:= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> http://lxde.org/lxde টা কেমন হয় এক্সএফসিইর বদলে
>>
>>
> Did you use it?? what's the feature list (I meant how powerful is the apps?)
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-08 Thread Shahriar Tariq

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:38 AM, DarkLord (:= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://lxde.org/lxde টা কেমন হয় এক্সএফসিইর বদলে
>
>
Did you use it?? what's the feature list (I meant how powerful is the apps?)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-07 Thread DarkLord (:=

http://lxde.org/lxde টা কেমন হয় এক্সএফসিইর বদলে

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OK THNX FOR DETAIL

On 12/3/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> ok i just wanna know somethig why should we go for debian not ubuntu? can
>> u
>> point out what advantage we get if we go with debian not ubuntu?
>>
>
> Look I am no expert in this field, so it is better for the expert to explain
> all the benefits we might have.
>
> For one, Ubuntu is a prepackaged system, with its own software
> packages/features... customizing to our hearts is possible but will require
> lots of time and effort. and few things will be there that we won't be able
> to change (unless we get our hand real dirty)
>
> On the other hand Debian is clean slate to work with, customizing our hearts
> pleasure. There are thousands of developers developing millions of
> applications for Debian (though Ubuntu uses Debian-apt package management
> system it will have to be aligned in our custom system.), In one word
> developers paradise
>
>
> Look at it this way. You have two drawing book,
>
> one with pre-sketched one just gives you opportunity to color it, that's
> Ubuntu.  the second book is clean white page to give you liberty to draw
> whatever you like to draw and color as colorful you like that's Debian
>
> Flexibility is the key here...
>
> (I want to try with various packages available out there to find the best
> possible configurations...giving light, super fast, user friendly
> experience)
>
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:48 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ok i just wanna know somethig why should we go for debian not ubuntu? can u
> point out what advantage we get if we go with debian not ubuntu?
>

Look I am no expert in this field, so it is better for the expert to explain
all the benefits we might have.

For one, Ubuntu is a prepackaged system, with its own software
packages/features... customizing to our hearts is possible but will require
lots of time and effort. and few things will be there that we won't be able
to change (unless we get our hand real dirty)

On the other hand Debian is clean slate to work with, customizing our hearts
pleasure. There are thousands of developers developing millions of
applications for Debian (though Ubuntu uses Debian-apt package management
system it will have to be aligned in our custom system.), In one word
developers paradise

Look at it this way. You have two drawing book,

one with pre-sketched one just gives you opportunity to color it, that's
Ubuntu.  the second book is clean white page to give you liberty to draw
whatever you like to draw and color as colorful you like that's Debian

Flexibility is the key here...

(I want to try with various packages available out there to find the best
possible configurations...giving light, super fast, user friendly
experience)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

ok i just wanna know somethig why should we go for debian not ubuntu?
can u point out what advantage we get if we go with debian not ubuntu?
many ppl customizing ubu and make another distro that cant be the only
reason to go with debian

On 12/3/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> YA OK
>
> On 12/3/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:50 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> আমরা এই প্রজেক্ট নিয়ে সরাসরি আলোচনা করতে পারলে মনেহয় ভালোহত
>>>
>>
>> Any day after 4th of December I have exam running...
>>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

YA OK

On 12/3/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:50 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> আমরা এই প্রজেক্ট নিয়ে সরাসরি আলোচনা করতে পারলে মনেহয় ভালোহত
>>
>
> Any day after 4th of December I have exam running...
>
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:50 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> আমরা এই প্রজেক্ট নিয়ে সরাসরি আলোচনা করতে পারলে মনেহয় ভালোহত
>

Any day after 4th of December I have exam running...

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আমরা এই প্রজেক্ট নিয়ে সরাসরি আলোচনা করতে পারলে মনেহয় ভালোহত

On 12/3/08, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I will be happy to know more about the project, mainly what you want to
>> achieve by creating yet another Linux distro.
>>
>
> That's the real question I wanted people to answer.
>
> Ubuntu is easy by itself (and hopefully will get much more easier in time)
> so do we need to feed them with everything we can cramming in a disk?
>
> The first idea was to create a customized Ubuntu version just to include the
> codecs/restricted extras (which Medibuntu already does)
>
> Then we just wanted to have a better suited distro for most peoples in
> Bangladesh.
> Low resource requirements, good package management, just click and go,
> better support from the scratch, consumer centric (maybe customizable).
>
> Ubuntu is nice true, but we need something more out of it..lots to improve.
> Response from Ubuntu Dev team and the Canonical is slow (and its
> understandable.. it have grown into such a big project)
>
>
> Besides Ubuntu I have heard there are few other projects that shifts good
> distro (though I have not used anything but Ubuntu)
>
> May be a combined jogaKhichuri from different distro??? Identifying lacking
> in Ubuntu trying to solve them.
>
>
> (the last point just to tell people we developed a Linux Distro :P)
>
>
> Deciding on the complete list of features will be nice now
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I will be happy to know more about the project, mainly what you want to
> achieve by creating yet another Linux distro.
>

That's the real question I wanted people to answer.

Ubuntu is easy by itself (and hopefully will get much more easier in time)
so do we need to feed them with everything we can cramming in a disk?

The first idea was to create a customized Ubuntu version just to include the
codecs/restricted extras (which Medibuntu already does)

Then we just wanted to have a better suited distro for most peoples in
Bangladesh.
Low resource requirements, good package management, just click and go,
better support from the scratch, consumer centric (maybe customizable).

Ubuntu is nice true, but we need something more out of it..lots to improve.
Response from Ubuntu Dev team and the Canonical is slow (and its
understandable.. it have grown into such a big project)

Besides Ubuntu I have heard there are few other projects that shifts good
distro (though I have not used anything but Ubuntu)

May be a combined jogaKhichuri from different distro??? Identifying lacking
in Ubuntu trying to solve them.

(the last point just to tell people we developed a Linux Distro :P)

Deciding on the complete list of features will be nice now
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So can we provide guide tutorial how to install that codec mannualy.

আচছা এই প্রজেক্টের জন্য কিকি বিষয়ে অভিজ্ঞ ভলান্টিয়ার প্রয়োজন তা জানালে
ভালো হত আর প্রজেক্টের দায়িত্ব গুলো ভাগ করে দিলে সে অনুযায়ী ভলান্টিয়ার
আহবান করা যেতে পারে। কাজ গুলো ভাগ করে লিস্ট প্রকাশ করলে ভালো হয়।

On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> I think there is a misunderstanding..
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Now it makes sense.
>
>> Does anyone else have any interest in the project and the expertise to
>> push
>> through??
>
> I will be happy to know more about the project, mainly what you want
> to achieve by creating yet another Linux distro.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Soyuz
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-03 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Shahriar Tariq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think there is a misunderstanding..

Thanks for the clarification. Now it makes sense.

> Does anyone else have any interest in the project and the expertise to push
> through??

I will be happy to know more about the project, mainly what you want
to achieve by creating yet another Linux distro.

Regards,

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I think there is a misunderstanding..

*Royal Bengal Linux WON'T Include CODECS or RESTRICTED EXTRAS in DEFAULT
Installation.*
No matter what the public demand is. No matter who uses/includes them in
their distro/project.

Yes we are aware of the legal issues and licensing problems, and we DO NOT
support piracy at any level, in Linux world we can also have piracy (in
terms of Cedega, Red Hat Pirated copy)

However we will provide additional measures like including few basic
non-free (in terms of Openness) codecs in the dvd to be installed as addon
after installing the main RBL without restricted/non-free codecs.

I want to keep the project as clean as possible.. I think following Ubuntu
or Ankur project is good for idea generation but that can not be the final
decision point. We should have our own identity. That's why I want to go
ahead with *Debian not Ubuntu*. (Not sure whether how tough it is
technically)

I think Russell John is no longer interested in the project. I asked him too
many times to respond and send an email, he just ignores...

Does anyone else have any interest in the project and the expertise to push
through??

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

What do u say about ankur? Like others they also include codecs

On 12/3/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> we should provide a good tutorial or show a demo how to manully
> download all those codec and install
> at release of rbl . I think we should make a pocket guide for rbl.
>
> Btw where is russell vi
>
> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
>>> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
>>> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
>>> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>>>
>>> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
>>
>> If you are to ignore "legal" issues then you are promoting/performing
>> "piracy". And in that case, we should not only discourage such
>> projects, legal actions should be taken to punish such attempts. If
>> you are such a Linux fan, please don't use Linux as a vehicle to
>> promote piracy. Ther's already enough misunderstanding about FOSS due
>> to these type of amateurish attempts. Above all this actions help
>> supporter of proprietary software to spread FUD about FOSS.
>>
>> But going back to the question of who to legalize it? I guess the
>> answer is in finding "how" not "who".
>>
>> For a start find out if BD has got software copyright laws in place?
>> Is it under IP/Patent pact with other countries? Does it conforms to
>> WIPO treties
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization).
>>
>> At the same time, find out the IP/Patent rights associated with the
>> codecs that you want to include in your distribution.
>>
>> You will see that things are starting to make sense.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

we should provide a good tutorial or show a demo how to manully
download all those codec and install
at release of rbl . I think we should make a pocket guide for rbl.

Btw where is russell vi

On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
>> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
>> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
>> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>>
>> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
>
> If you are to ignore "legal" issues then you are promoting/performing
> "piracy". And in that case, we should not only discourage such
> projects, legal actions should be taken to punish such attempts. If
> you are such a Linux fan, please don't use Linux as a vehicle to
> promote piracy. Ther's already enough misunderstanding about FOSS due
> to these type of amateurish attempts. Above all this actions help
> supporter of proprietary software to spread FUD about FOSS.
>
> But going back to the question of who to legalize it? I guess the
> answer is in finding "how" not "who".
>
> For a start find out if BD has got software copyright laws in place?
> Is it under IP/Patent pact with other countries? Does it conforms to
> WIPO treties
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization).
>
> At the same time, find out the IP/Patent rights associated with the
> codecs that you want to include in your distribution.
>
> You will see that things are starting to make sense.
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

2008-12-03 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 6:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>
> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl

If you are to ignore "legal" issues then you are promoting/performing
"piracy". And in that case, we should not only discourage such
projects, legal actions should be taken to punish such attempts. If
you are such a Linux fan, please don't use Linux as a vehicle to
promote piracy. Ther's already enough misunderstanding about FOSS due
to these type of amateurish attempts. Above all this actions help
supporter of proprietary software to spread FUD about FOSS.

But going back to the question of who to legalize it? I guess the
answer is in finding "how" not "who".

For a start find out if BD has got software copyright laws in place?
Is it under IP/Patent pact with other countries? Does it conforms to
WIPO treties 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization).

At the same time, find out the IP/Patent rights associated with the
codecs that you want to include in your distribution.

You will see that things are starting to make sense.

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http://www.playonlinux.com/en/

some 1 try some game with this and see if it works

On 12/3/08, 9el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Darklord forgot that? :D  I dont play games for many years...
> ---
> Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get
> a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit :
> www.ubuntu.com
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>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I posted a emuletor link some days ago here. I can remember the name
>> check that and try if that good enough.
>>
>> Cedega is not free should avoid that
>>
>> On 12/3/08, 9el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > u'll need to put cedega n other gaming emulators as well
>> > ---
>> > Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get
>> > a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit :
>> > www.ubuntu.com
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
>> >>
>> >> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
>> >> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
>> >> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>> >>
>> >> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
>> >>
>> >> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
>> >> >
>> >> > I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?
>> >> >
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2008-12-02 Thread 9el

Darklord forgot that? :D  I dont play games for many years...
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:21 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I posted a emuletor link some days ago here. I can remember the name
> check that and try if that good enough.
>
> Cedega is not free should avoid that
>
> On 12/3/08, 9el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > u'll need to put cedega n other gaming emulators as well
> > ---
> > Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get
> > a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit :
> > www.ubuntu.com
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
> >>
> >> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
> >> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
> >> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
> >>
> >> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
> >>
> >> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
> >> >
> >> > I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >>
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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

I posted a emuletor link some days ago here. I can remember the name
check that and try if that good enough.

Cedega is not free should avoid that

On 12/3/08, 9el <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> u'll need to put cedega n other gaming emulators as well
> ---
> Use FreeOpenSourceSoftwares, Stop piracy, Let the developers live. Get
> a Free CD of Ubuntu mailed to your door without any cost. Visit :
> www.ubuntu.com
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
>>
>> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
>> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
>> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>>
>> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
>>
>> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
>> >
>> > I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?
>> >
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>> > ubuntu-bd@lists.ubuntu.com
>> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bd
>> >
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2008-12-02 Thread 9el

u'll need to put cedega n other gaming emulators as well
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:03 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So tell me who gonna legalize this?
>
> If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
> effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
> net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.
>
> And i think we should include thos codec in rbl
>
> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
> >
> > I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?
> >
> > --
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> >
>
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So tell me who gonna legalize this?

If some 1 take rbl home and cant play then they will be pissed off our
effort is to make them use linux and leave win and not every 1 hav
net. Many users just use pc for play music ,video and game.

And i think we should include thos codec in rbl

On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
>
> I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?
>
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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:32 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ankur hav those codec pre installed

I will be interested to know how they have "legalized" it?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BD] Discussion and planning on RBL linux distro

Nice post to express the point I am trying to make.

The Legality or Illegality of w32codecs and libdvdcss2

http://ubuntucat.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/the-legality-or-illegality-of-w32codecs-and-libdvdcss2/

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Though I have no idea what this RBL linux is but I am going to jump in
> and provide my two cents:

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On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:34 PM, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Linux mint and other multimedia distro hav codec pre installed

Yes, of course!

I was pointing that the inclusion of codecs needs to be "legalised"
like many distors have done.

Something like "Not legal in U.S" in small fonts in your license which
of course nobody ever reads. :D

So that when uncle sam comes to catch the theives (very unlikely) you
can always show and say "see I mentioned that ..."

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Linux mint and other multimedia distro hav codec pre installed

On 12/3/08, dark lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ankur hav those codec pre installed
>
> On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Though I have no idea what this RBL linux is but I am going to jump in
>> and provide my two cents:
>>
>>>
>>> Lats make 2 flaver
>>>
>>> office edition = all kind of app that can be useful to office
>>> corporate user Oo.o 3 must + xfce + less multimedia support + good
>>> support for networking,internet communication that ubu already hav +
>>> simplest lightest possible.
>>>
>>> Multimedia edition for regular user = kde latest may be gnome too for
>>> giv users choice + exclude Oo.o include small office app + all
>>> multimedia  support  codec+ 3gp converter , mp3 ripper , non-linear
>>> video editor,rythombox/banshee + wine +  compiz if possible provid
>>> restricted graphic card driver too for manual installation.
>>
>> Without clear definition of what "less multimedia support" (office
>> edition) is, I am going to assume that this version will not support
>> playing of mainstream video/audio formats out of the box. And I think
>> this is not a wise choice. Why would an office edition distro will
>> need any less usage of media formats than a home user.
>>
>> True that business user might not need format
>> transcoders/rippers/editior but these days they need to play more
>> media contents than an average end user. Business users deal with more
>> varied information than a traditional users and this is the age of
>> multimedia contents. I guess I don't need to go on and provide an
>> essay about that.
>>
>> And now going for the Multimedia edition, how do the project plans to
>> provide "multimedia support codecs" without considering legal
>> implications like Intellectual Property (IP) issues?
>>
>> Those related to this effort, have you ever considered why Linux
>> distros fails to provide the basic codes out of the box (installed by
>> default)? Why the user needs to go install them by thenselves? For
>> example: Ubuntu has them in repository for you to obtain but they
>> don't install/distribute them by default? Ever wondered why so?
>>
>> These is a very complicated web of legal issues relating to these
>> codecs and you need to be aware of them.
>>
>> Any work relating to this codecs need to be aware of whats the
>> Copywright & IP laws associated to the codes, How that IP is enforced
>> in various geographical locations
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization).
>>
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Ankur hav those codec pre installed

On 12/3/08, Mohammad Bhuyan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Though I have no idea what this RBL linux is but I am going to jump in
> and provide my two cents:
>
>>
>> Lats make 2 flaver
>>
>> office edition = all kind of app that can be useful to office
>> corporate user Oo.o 3 must + xfce + less multimedia support + good
>> support for networking,internet communication that ubu already hav +
>> simplest lightest possible.
>>
>> Multimedia edition for regular user = kde latest may be gnome too for
>> giv users choice + exclude Oo.o include small office app + all
>> multimedia  support  codec+ 3gp converter , mp3 ripper , non-linear
>> video editor,rythombox/banshee + wine +  compiz if possible provid
>> restricted graphic card driver too for manual installation.
>
> Without clear definition of what "less multimedia support" (office
> edition) is, I am going to assume that this version will not support
> playing of mainstream video/audio formats out of the box. And I think
> this is not a wise choice. Why would an office edition distro will
> need any less usage of media formats than a home user.
>
> True that business user might not need format
> transcoders/rippers/editior but these days they need to play more
> media contents than an average end user. Business users deal with more
> varied information than a traditional users and this is the age of
> multimedia contents. I guess I don't need to go on and provide an
> essay about that.
>
> And now going for the Multimedia edition, how do the project plans to
> provide "multimedia support codecs" without considering legal
> implications like Intellectual Property (IP) issues?
>
> Those related to this effort, have you ever considered why Linux
> distros fails to provide the basic codes out of the box (installed by
> default)? Why the user needs to go install them by thenselves? For
> example: Ubuntu has them in repository for you to obtain but they
> don't install/distribute them by default? Ever wondered why so?
>
> These is a very complicated web of legal issues relating to these
> codecs and you need to be aware of them.
>
> Any work relating to this codecs need to be aware of whats the
> Copywright & IP laws associated to the codes, How that IP is enforced
> in various geographical locations
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Intellectual_Property_Organization).
>
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