Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Ubuntu Mug]

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Payment transfered this morning, 7 mugs, ?35.
Thanks.

>- Oorspronkelijk bericht -
>Van: Tom Van Braeckel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Verzonden: dinsdag, februari 26, 2008 08:28 AM
>Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium'
>Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] [Fwd: Ubuntu Mug]
>
>Money transfer made today.
>
>Op maandag 25-02-2008 om 08:31 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Rob Van
>Dyck:
>> Hi Jens,
>> 
>> Thanx for your concern, point taken, now let us hope not too many
>> people pick up on your idea ;-).
>> I think the risk is not too high, considering we are dealing with
>> small amounts of money and the changes made on the wiki are mailed to
>> several persons (who would hopefully pull the alarm bell :-), plus I
>> also regularly check the wiki, and I would notice a change in my bank
>> account number.
>> 
>> Being able to change content on a wiki is an advantage and a
>> disadvantage ... you have to have some good faith in your users. I
>> could have also opted to put it only here on the mailinglist, but then
>> you would have the problem of people who are not following our
>> mailinglist that want to order stuff and still need the number.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Rob.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Philippe Piquer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > That's an idea :)
>> >
>> > 2008/2/24, Jens Timmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:55 +0100, Rob Van Dyck wrote:
>> > > > Hi,
>> > > >
>> > > > We have an update on the mugs. Please check
>> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/promotional-materials/Grouporder
>> > > >
>> > > > Important action points: exact order will be made on the 1th of March,
>> > > > please make sure payments have arrived before that date.
>> > > >
>> > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > Rob.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Just a tought
>> > >
>> > > is it a good idea to put the bank account for the payments on the wiki?
>> > > since, it's a wiki?
>> > >
>> > > Anybody could now change it and place their bank account there and get
>> > > all your precious money...
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] document freedom day

[Jan Claeys]

Op dinsdag 26-02-2008 om 12:44 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Bruno De
Bondt:
> - Are there people here who would to help with this: contribute to the
> FAQ, interviews, ... or do you have suggestions on who we should
> interview about this?

  * someone from the OpenDoc Society Belgium (e.g. Machteld
Garrels?)
  * Peter Strickx from FedICT (who wants to standardise the federal
government on open document formats), also see

  * someone from FFII ?
  * URGent (university radio) uses Fluendo to stream in Ogg Vorbis
(as well as MP3 & WMA), maybe someone there has something
interesting to tell that people at the public radio/TV should
hear?  ;)
  * ...?


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Why Linux Doesn't Spread - the Curse of Being Free

[Mattias Campe]

Jan Claeys schreef:

Op donderdag 21-02-2008 om 20:44 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Mattias
Campe:
  
Jan Claeys schreef: 


So, then why doesn't Apple have more than 3% marketshare on the PC
market while they probably spend 50x more per unit sold than Microsoft
on marketing...?  ;)

"Linux" is actually growing faster than Mac OS X, and might surpass it
within 1-3 years in most countries.
  
  
Jan, what are your sources for the last sentence? I know the following

sources, but these ones don't seem to give arguments for your
statement (maybe because they are too global).

http://www.thecounter.com > Global Stats  (currently Linux: 1% vs Mac
4%)
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=9 (currently Linux:
0,67% vs Mac 7,57% and the trend seems to be in favor of Mac)

Could it be possible to clarify 'growing faster... in
desktop/mobile/server/all' and 'most countries'=?

BTW Some time ago somebody posted the results of some Belgian survey
somewhere where we could read that Linux is the most popular Linux
distribution in Belgium, but I can't seem to find that message any
more. Does somebody has any clue?



Mark posted it[1] first and I've posted it in several places too.  So,
early 2007 in Belgium, 1.8% of the market used Mac OS X, and 1.5% of the
market used linux, freebsd, or another free OS.

Considering the respective marketing budgets, Mac OS X must be really
bad in practice to be so close to the "no-budget" operating systems in
market share... or otherwise price isn't really relevant!  ;-)

Ubuntu did have 0.3% back then, which was the largest free OS.

And remember, this was based on phone calls to actual internet users,
not based on browser stats or similar metrics that are often faked
(because of issues with maldesigned websites).
  
I follow the webstatistics on thecounter.com and I made a graph out of 
it. For what it's worth: 
http://users.fulladsl.be/~spb12314/Werkmap/webstatsTheCounter.com.png . 
These are indeed *web*statistics and I've seen that the statistics of 
thecounter.com sometimes have errors (eg. mei tot december 2003).


These statistics seem to show that Macintosh and Linux more and more 
have a bigger market share, while Windows is going down (but the Y-scale 
isn't the same left and right, so it's less dramatic than it seems at 
first sight).


[1] 

  

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Christophe Vandeplas]

Off list even kort de situatie uitgelegd aan Bart;

Ik zou het enorm apprecieren om deze thread gewoon te negeren en zo te laten.
Het zijn uiteindelijk toch doel-loze gesprekken die voor ruzies zorgen.

Enfin, moeilijk om te formuleren maar please trust me.

Groeten

christophe

On 2/26/08, Kevin Elaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mja Bart soms heb je van die mensen die alles eruit flappen zonder echt
>  stil te staan bij hetgeen ze zeggen.
>
>  Bart Broeckx schreef:
>
> > Hij zou zich moeten schamen,
>  >
>  > Ubuntu is er eigenhandig voor verantwoordelijk dat Linux langzaam ook
>  > bij niet nerds op de pc komt te staan. Je hoeft het niet met Ubuntu
>  > eens te zijn, kies gewoon voor een andere distro die je beter ligt.
>  > Dat zo iemand meewerkt op FOSDEM stoort me wel.
>  >
>  > Als iemand niet mag komen omdat hij zegt dat "Open software: Evil" is
>  > dan vind ik dat iemand die "Fuck Ubuntu" zegt ook niet welkom zou
>  > mogen zijn. We zouden moeten samenwerken en elkaar niet tegenwerken,
>  > jammer.
>  >
>  > vriendelijke groeten,
>  >
>  >
>  > Op 26-02-08 heeft *Serge van Ginderachter* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > het volgende geschreven:
>
> >
>  >
>  > - "Christophe Vandeplas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > wrote:
>  >
>  > > > Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
>  > > >  distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en
>  > vergelijkt met
>  > > een
>  > > >  heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
>  > > >  En voor welke reden dan nog.
>  > >
>  > > Als je Philip goed kent, dan kan je dat :-)
>  >
>  > Waarom kan hij niet eens relativeren?
>  >
>  > --
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Kevin Elaerts]

Mja Bart soms heb je van die mensen die alles eruit flappen zonder echt 
stil te staan bij hetgeen ze zeggen.

Bart Broeckx schreef:
> Hij zou zich moeten schamen,
>
> Ubuntu is er eigenhandig voor verantwoordelijk dat Linux langzaam ook 
> bij niet nerds op de pc komt te staan. Je hoeft het niet met Ubuntu 
> eens te zijn, kies gewoon voor een andere distro die je beter ligt. 
> Dat zo iemand meewerkt op FOSDEM stoort me wel.
>
> Als iemand niet mag komen omdat hij zegt dat "Open software: Evil" is 
> dan vind ik dat iemand die "Fuck Ubuntu" zegt ook niet welkom zou 
> mogen zijn. We zouden moeten samenwerken en elkaar niet tegenwerken, 
> jammer.
>
> vriendelijke groeten,
>
>
> Op 26-02-08 heeft *Serge van Ginderachter* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > het volgende geschreven:
>
>
> - "Christophe Vandeplas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
> > >  distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en
> vergelijkt met
> > een
> > >  heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
> > >  En voor welke reden dan nog.
> >
> > Als je Philip goed kent, dan kan je dat :-)
>
> Waarom kan hij niet eens relativeren?
>
> --
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>
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>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Bart Broeckx]

Hij zou zich moeten schamen,

Ubuntu is er eigenhandig voor verantwoordelijk dat Linux langzaam ook bij
niet nerds op de pc komt te staan. Je hoeft het niet met Ubuntu eens te
zijn, kies gewoon voor een andere distro die je beter ligt. Dat zo iemand
meewerkt op FOSDEM stoort me wel.

Als iemand niet mag komen omdat hij zegt dat "Open software: Evil" is dan
vind ik dat iemand die "Fuck Ubuntu" zegt ook niet welkom zou mogen zijn. We
zouden moeten samenwerken en elkaar niet tegenwerken, jammer.

vriendelijke groeten,


Op 26-02-08 heeft Serge van Ginderachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> het
volgende geschreven:
>
>
> - "Christophe Vandeplas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
> > >  distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en vergelijkt met
> > een
> > >  heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
> > >  En voor welke reden dan nog.
> >
> > Als je Philip goed kent, dan kan je dat :-)
>
> Waarom kan hij niet eens relativeren?
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Serge van Ginderachter]

- "Christophe Vandeplas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
> >  distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en vergelijkt met
> een
> >  heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
> >  En voor welke reden dan nog.
> 
> Als je Philip goed kent, dan kan je dat :-)

Waarom kan hij niet eens relativeren?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Kevin Elaerts]

Amedee Van Gasse schreef:
> On Tue, February 26, 2008 12:12, Serge van Ginderachter wrote:
>   
>> - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
>>> http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
>>>   
>> Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders
>> leefwereld in te leven.
>> 
>
> Niks van aantrekken.
> Philip was zijn pillekes vergeten te pakken.
> En hij had nog koppijn van zijn drinkgelag de avond ervoor.
> Speciaal voor Marc ga ik nu ook nog voor een Engelse versie zorgen. Maar
> ik heb geen goesting om zelf te vertalen dus ik laat Babelfish het vuile
> werk doen. ;-)
>
> Nothing of attracts.
> Philip were ordinary are catch pillekes forget. And he had still head pain
> of its drinking the evening.
> Especially Marc I will ensure now also still an English version. But I
> have to no translate goesting itself therefore I let Babelfish the dirty
> work do; -)
>
>   
Lol what meds is he taking cause I think we both take the same meds, 
when I read he has ADHD, lol so do I.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Amedee Van Gasse]

On Tue, February 26, 2008 15:35, Tim Thaens wrote:
> Let's all give him a big ubuntu hug

Put positive comments on his blog.
http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
Give him lots of Ubuntu love.
And watch out for his captcha.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Tim Thaens]

Let's all give him a big ubuntu hug

2008/2/26, Rob Van Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Maybe he just needs some ubuntu-love? :)
>
> 2008/2/26 Amedee Van Gasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> >  On Tue, February 26, 2008 12:12, Serge van Ginderachter wrote:
> >  >
> >  > - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  >> Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
> >  >> http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
> >  >
> >  > Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders
> >  > leefwereld in te leven.
> >
> >  Niks van aantrekken.
> >  Philip was zijn pillekes vergeten te pakken.
> >  En hij had nog koppijn van zijn drinkgelag de avond ervoor.
> >  Speciaal voor Marc ga ik nu ook nog voor een Engelse versie zorgen.
> Maar
> >  ik heb geen goesting om zelf te vertalen dus ik laat Babelfish het
> vuile
> >  werk doen. ;-)
> >
> >  Nothing of attracts.
> >  Philip were ordinary are catch pillekes forget. And he had still head
> pain
> >  of its drinking the evening.
> >  Especially Marc I will ensure now also still an English version. But I
> >  have to no translate goesting itself therefore I let Babelfish the
> dirty
> >  work do; -)
> >
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Rob Van Dyck]

Maybe he just needs some ubuntu-love? :)

2008/2/26 Amedee Van Gasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  On Tue, February 26, 2008 12:12, Serge van Ginderachter wrote:
>  >
>  > - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >> Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
>  >> http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
>  >
>  > Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders
>  > leefwereld in te leven.
>
>  Niks van aantrekken.
>  Philip was zijn pillekes vergeten te pakken.
>  En hij had nog koppijn van zijn drinkgelag de avond ervoor.
>  Speciaal voor Marc ga ik nu ook nog voor een Engelse versie zorgen. Maar
>  ik heb geen goesting om zelf te vertalen dus ik laat Babelfish het vuile
>  werk doen. ;-)
>
>  Nothing of attracts.
>  Philip were ordinary are catch pillekes forget. And he had still head pain
>  of its drinking the evening.
>  Especially Marc I will ensure now also still an English version. But I
>  have to no translate goesting itself therefore I let Babelfish the dirty
>  work do; -)
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Amedee Van Gasse]

On Tue, February 26, 2008 12:12, Serge van Ginderachter wrote:
>
> - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
>> http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
>
> Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders
> leefwereld in te leven.

Niks van aantrekken.
Philip was zijn pillekes vergeten te pakken.
En hij had nog koppijn van zijn drinkgelag de avond ervoor.
Speciaal voor Marc ga ik nu ook nog voor een Engelse versie zorgen. Maar
ik heb geen goesting om zelf te vertalen dus ik laat Babelfish het vuile
werk doen. ;-)

Nothing of attracts.
Philip were ordinary are catch pillekes forget. And he had still head pain
of its drinking the evening.
Especially Marc I will ensure now also still an English version. But I
have to no translate goesting itself therefore I let Babelfish the dirty
work do; -)

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Christophe Vandeplas]

> Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
>  distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en vergelijkt met een
>  heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
>  En voor welke reden dan nog.

Als je Philip goed kent, dan kan je dat :-)
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] document freedom day

[Christophe Vandeplas]

On 2/26/08, .: liezie :. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I often use the analogy with cars when I want to explain geek things to
> non-geek people.
> It is a usefull analogy that works most of the time very well.
>
> In this example I would compare it with the "car-radio standards" which
> allow me to "just" buy a radio in any shop, because - due to these standards
> - the sizes and cables will fit, no matter the brand. I would then compare
> to windscreenwipers to explain the non-standard approach where you have to
> write down your brand and type of car, and check a big catalogue in the shop
> to make sure that you buy the correct wiper.

Comparisons like this are indeed something that helps 'normal people'
to understand complicated things.

It's really difficult for IT people to do this, but if you have good
stories (like Lieze) don't hesitate to tell them to your fellow
ubuntu-ers.

Cheers

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[llitaar]

Op dinsdag 26-02-2008 om 12:14 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Christophe
Vandeplas:
> Een andere organisatielid zegt: Philip is een pracht van een kerel,
> maar soms moet je zijn opmerkingen relativeren ...
> 
> On 2/26/08, Serge van Ginderachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  > Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
> >  > http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
> >
> >
> > Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders 
> > leefwereld in te leven.
> >
> >
> >
> >  --
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> >
> >
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> >
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Hoe kan je dit relativeren als men in één zin een populaire linux
distributie en de bijhorende community neersabelt en vergelijkt met een
heel grote  hoop stinkende paardestr?
En voor welke reden dan nog.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] document freedom day

[.: liezie :.]

I often use the analogy with cars when I want to explain geek things to
non-geek people.
It is a usefull analogy that works most of the time very well.

In this example I would compare it with the "car-radio standards" which
allow me to "just" buy a radio in any shop, because - due to these standards
- the sizes and cables will fit, no matter the brand. I would then compare
to windscreenwipers to explain the non-standard approach where you have to
write down your brand and type of car, and check a big catalogue in the shop
to make sure that you buy the correct wiper.




On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Bruno De Bondt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> - Do people have other ideas, suggestions, ... on how to convey the
> ideas, importance of open standards etc to a non-geek audience?
>
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[Ubuntu-be] document freedom day

[Bruno De Bondt]

Hi,

Even though it's not strictly Ubuntu related, I thought I'd mention this 
here ...

At Indymedia.be, we would like to cover the Document Freedom Day 
(http://documentfreedom.org/):

- do interview(s) beforehand about free document formats & open 
standards, why they matter etc
- write/re-use a FAQ on free formats and open standards
- cover DFD events in Brussels/Belgium on the 26th of March

I have a couple of questions:

- Are there people here who would to help with this: contribute to the 
FAQ, interviews, ... or do you have suggestions on who we should 
interview about this?
- Do people have other ideas, suggestions, ... on how to convey the 
ideas, importance of open standards etc to a non-geek audience?

Thank you,
- bruno



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Christophe Vandeplas]

Een andere organisatielid zegt: Philip is een pracht van een kerel,
maar soms moet je zijn opmerkingen relativeren ...

On 2/26/08, Serge van Ginderachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  - "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
>  > http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu
>
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> Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders 
> leefwereld in te leven.
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[Serge van Ginderachter]

- "llitaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
> http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu

Ik vrees dat Philip er nooit in zal slagen om zich in iemand anders leefwereld 
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[Ubuntu-be] fosdem

[llitaar]

Enkel spijtig van één organisatielid:
http://www.paeps.cx/weblog/Linux/fuck_ubuntu



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Just a few questions.

[Wouter Horré]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Stani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > 3. About myself, I would like to participate general in package
>  Packages should definitely be in English.
>
>  It is good before developing your application to study gettext so your
> application can easily be translated. Without giving too much details, the
> process is not that difficult. Every string which should be translated,
> should be surrounded by the _() function, for example _('translate me').
> Afterwards I advise you to use a program such as poedit (sudo apt-get
> install poedit), which will extract all strings automatically for
> translation and allow you to translate your program in any language you
> want. The exact details are dependent of your programming language and out
> of scope for this mailing list. Probably you better.

If I understood correctly, Tim wants to help packaging existing
software. As far as I know debian package descriptions etc. should be
in English and there is no gettext there...

> Take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
>
>  MOTU (Masters of the Universe) is the team of which you can become a member
> after some hard training, which packages all not officially supported
> packages. MOTU's are friendly people and you can ask for help in
> #ubuntu-motu on IRC with Pidgin. There was just an Ubuntu Developers Week of
> which the logs will be very useful to you:
>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek

I know what MOTU are. The link I posted describes what you should do
if you want to help out with packaging for ubuntu, which is what I
think that Tim wants to do.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Just a few questions.

[Stani]

Wouter Horré wrote:

 > development. So the packages I write, is it best to do i English (so
 > the whole ubuntu community could use it) or to make it in
 > Dutch/French?

 English - that way everyone can translate the package to their favourite
 language.


> 3. About myself, I would like to participate general in package

Packages should definitely be in English.
  
It is good before developing your application to study gettext so your 
application can easily be translated. Without giving too much details, 
the process is not that difficult. Every string which should be 
translated, should be surrounded by the _() function, for example 
_('translate me'). Afterwards I advise you to use a program such as 
poedit (sudo apt-get install poedit), which will extract all strings 
automatically for translation and allow you to translate your program in 
any language you want. The exact details are dependent of your 
programming language and out of scope for this mailing list. Probably 
you better.

 >  4.  Is there somewhere a list of package requests?


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-packaging

If you want your program to be packaged there, file a "needs-packaging" 
bug against ubuntu on launchpad.

 I don't know - someone else should answer this.



Take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
  
MOTU (Masters of the Universe) is the team of which you can become a 
member after some hard training, which packages all not officially 
supported packages. MOTU's are friendly people and you can ask for help 
in #ubuntu-motu on IRC with Pidgin. There was just an Ubuntu Developers 
Week of which the logs will be very useful to you:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek

The best approach is to package your programs for Debian and afterwards 
they can get easily synced for Ubuntu.


I advise you to participate in the 5 bugs a day project as a good 
starting point:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Just a few questions.

[Wouter Horré]

Hi,

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Tom Van Braeckel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Op dinsdag 26-02-2008 om 08:40 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tim Thaens:
>  >  2.  What is the main activity of this mailing-list? Bugreport,
>  > bugfixes, core development, package development, support, translation
>  > or general ubuntu talk?
>
>  General Ubuntu talk, user support, discussing, planning and organising
>  of events,... You might find more info at http://ubuntu-be.org/

user support: not really. For that we redirect to ubuntu-{nl,fr,de}.
The main purpose is coordination of the ubuntu-be activities.


>  >  3.  About myself, I would like to participate general in package
>  > development. So the packages I write, is it best to do i English (so
>  > the whole ubuntu community could use it) or to make it in
>  > Dutch/French?
>
>  English - that way everyone can translate the package to their favourite
>  language.

Packages should definitely be in English.


>  >  4.  Is there somewhere a list of package requests?
>
>  I don't know - someone else should answer this.

Take a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted

regards
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