Re: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

[martijn cielen]

Stijn,

basically you can do anything with a lens. See also
https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unity/Lenses/Ideas
So the MobileVikings Lens could display all your account information
(cfr eg iPhone app MyVikings).

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Stijn Van Campenhout
 wrote:
> Martijn,
>
> Aren't Unity lenses meant for searching protocols or am I totally missing the 
> point here?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Stijn
>
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: mcie...@gmail.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens 
> martijn cielen
> Verzonden: donderdag 19 mei 2011 8:00
> Aan: Ubuntu Belgium
> Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses
>
> Gents,
>
> As all of us use Ubuntu, and some of us even know how to program, I'm
> calling for help (I'm not a developer myself, and have very little
> spare time atm).
>
> Would anyone of you be able to create a Unity Lens for MobileVikings?
> The full 2.0 api documentation is online, as is the documentation for
> lenses. Of course, all credit goes to the genius that creates the
> lens. ;-)
>
> kindest regards,
>
> Martijn
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

[Stijn Van Campenhout]

Martijn,

Aren't Unity lenses meant for searching protocols or am I totally missing the 
point here?

Kind regards,

Stijn

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: mcie...@gmail.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens 
martijn cielen
Verzonden: donderdag 19 mei 2011 8:00
Aan: Ubuntu Belgium
Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

Gents,

As all of us use Ubuntu, and some of us even know how to program, I'm
calling for help (I'm not a developer myself, and have very little
spare time atm).

Would anyone of you be able to create a Unity Lens for MobileVikings?
The full 2.0 api documentation is online, as is the documentation for
lenses. Of course, all credit goes to the genius that creates the
lens. ;-)

kindest regards,

Martijn

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[Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

[martijn cielen]

Gents,

As all of us use Ubuntu, and some of us even know how to program, I'm
calling for help (I'm not a developer myself, and have very little
spare time atm).

Would anyone of you be able to create a Unity Lens for MobileVikings?
The full 2.0 api documentation is online, as is the documentation for
lenses. Of course, all credit goes to the genius that creates the
lens. ;-)

kindest regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[wouter Vandenneucker]

misschien kan warddr eens kijken hoeveel ze er in china voor vragen.(Hij heeft 
ervaring met massa aankoop uit China) (T is een vak appart :p)
en ja, de wiki zonder trouble, het is een droom voor iedereen..

Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:58:27 +0200
From: ste...@leeman.be
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

ja ik heb ze op de wiki gezet...het is niet opportuun om attachments te 
versturen per mailinglist (max size enzo)ook worden die niet in het archief 
opgenomenook kan er makkellijker ingespeeld worden op de wiki (en heb ik weer 
kunnen vechten met "moinmoin"...grunch)

2011/5/18 wouter Vandenneucker 






die pdf's komen er bij mij precies niet door.. of bedoel je die op de 
wiki?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Steven Leeman]

ja ik heb ze op de wiki gezet...
het is niet opportuun om attachments te versturen per mailinglist (max size
enzo)
ook worden die niet in het archief opgenomen
ook kan er makkellijker ingespeeld worden op de wiki (en heb ik weer kunnen
vechten met "moinmoin"...grunch)

2011/5/18 wouter Vandenneucker 

>  die pdf's komen er bij mij precies niet door.. of bedoel je die op de
> wiki?
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[wouter Vandenneucker]

die pdf's komen er bij mij precies niet door.. of bedoel je die op de 
wiki?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
grts

Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:47:24 +0200
From: ste...@leeman.be
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

Voor de liefhebbers dus alvast een voorproefje (3 pdf's; een overzicht van 
mogelijke kleuren/vormen van usb sticks; een prijzenlijst) en hier de extra 
info:
misschien hebben sommigen nog andere leveranciers van usb sticks?

ik heb er een 3tal aangesproken; 2 hebben er gereageerd; deze was van de 3 
alvast het goedkoopst/vriendelijkst...
Misschien dat sommigen al direct inspiratie hebben voor "usb stick" logo's...
en zijn er die voorkeur hebben op de neutrale stick of de "creditcard size"...
creditcard size: het past in je portefeuille... mijn sleutelbos is al 
overgepopuleerd...en het is ideaal om per post te versturen voor mensen die 
eventueel een supportpoint contacteren maar niet ter plaatse willen/kunnen gaan 
zoals ik afgelopen week voorhad

een waferserie : kredietkaart (26cent duurder dan de usb "stick" versie) met 
foto afdruk.. laat de "ubuntu linux wallpapers maar komen"!- geen limitatie 
schijnbaar van 2/4/kleurendruks
- 1 gbyte ipv 4gbyte (2euro/stick besparing)-  250 vs 100stuks? bijna 50cent 
goedkoper weliswaar 2,5x duurder in totaalprijs om voor te schieten
egale verdeling naar de diverse eventbox afdelingen in België?
eventueel samenwerken met nederland/frankrijk (aangezien we frans/nederlands 
kiezen als languagepack?) /-nl.orgmisschien een ubuntu-be.org  link 
logo vaandel gedoe doen dan zijn ze alle 3 blij :-)
   \-fr.org...
1 gigabyte... 100stuks vs 200stuks---8<--Allereerst bedankt voor de eventuele 
interesse in onze Flashbay USB-sticks en ons gesprek van zojuist.


Het is wellicht goed om te weten dat Flashbay vaste leverancier is van 's 
werelds grootste bedrijven, scholen en overheidsinstellingen. Zo hebben wij 
bijvoorbeeld al meerdere malen geleverd aan de Europese Commissie, omdat zij zo 
te spreken zijn over onze klantenservice en levertijden.

Bijgevoegd de speciale prijslijst waarop al onze modellen, accessoires en 
(data)opties vermeld staan. De prijzen zijn inclusief bedrukking op de voor- en 
achterkant, en als jullie een BTW-nummer hebben hoeven wij geen BTW te 
verrekenen vanwege communautaire BTW regels (wij zijn gevestigd in Engeland).


Flashbay heeft een unieke levertijd van maximaal 6 werkdagen. Ter voorbeeld: 
indien je vandaag een bestelling zou plaatsen worden de USB sticks uiterlijk 26 
mei al geleverd.


Ik heb het voorbeeldpakket, met daarin al onze modellen, per post opgestuurd. 
Deze zal morgen worden bezorgd. Laat me dan even weten of er een model voor 
jullie uitspringt?
Als je mij een logo toestuurt in EPS / PDF / Hoge resolutie JPG formaat dan zal 
ik alvast een paar vrijblijvende virtuele PDF proeven opsturen, zodat je een 
beeld krijgt van hoe het eruit kan komen te zien.


Ik zie je reactie graag tegemoet.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Steven Leeman]

Voor de liefhebbers dus alvast een voorproefje (3 pdf's; een overzicht van
mogelijke kleuren/vormen van usb sticks; een prijzenlijst) en hier de extra
info:

misschien hebben sommigen nog andere leveranciers van usb sticks?
ik heb er een 3tal aangesproken; 2 hebben er gereageerd; deze was van de 3
alvast het goedkoopst/vriendelijkst...

Misschien dat sommigen al direct inspiratie hebben voor "usb stick"
logo's...
en zijn er die voorkeur hebben op de neutrale stick of de "creditcard
size"...

creditcard size: het past in je portefeuille... mijn sleutelbos is al
overgepopuleerd...
en het is ideaal om per post te versturen voor mensen die eventueel een
supportpoint contacteren maar niet ter plaatse willen/kunnen gaan zoals ik
afgelopen week voorhad

een waferserie : kredietkaart (26cent duurder dan de usb "stick" versie) met
foto afdruk.. laat de "ubuntu linux wallpapers maar komen"!
- geen limitatie schijnbaar van 2/4/kleurendruks
- 1 gbyte ipv 4gbyte (2euro/stick besparing)
-  250 vs 100stuks? bijna 50cent goedkoper weliswaar 2,5x duurder in
totaalprijs om voor te schieten

egale verdeling naar de diverse eventbox afdelingen in België?
eventueel samenwerken met nederland/frankrijk (aangezien we frans/nederlands
kiezen als languagepack?) /-nl.org
misschien een ubuntu-be.org  link logo vaandel gedoe doen dan zijn ze alle 3
blij :-)
   \-fr.org
...

1 gigabyte... 100stuks vs 200stuks
---8<--
Allereerst bedankt voor de eventuele interesse in onze Flashbay USB-sticks
en ons gesprek van zojuist.

Het is wellicht goed om te weten dat Flashbay vaste leverancier is van 's
werelds grootste bedrijven, scholen en overheidsinstellingen. Zo hebben wij
bijvoorbeeld al meerdere malen geleverd aan de Europese Commissie, omdat zij
zo te spreken zijn over onze klantenservice en levertijden.

Bijgevoegd de speciale *prijslijst* waarop al onze modellen, accessoires en
(data)opties vermeld staan. De prijzen zijn inclusief bedrukking op de voor-
en achterkant, en als jullie een BTW-nummer hebben hoeven wij geen BTW te
verrekenen vanwege communautaire BTW regels (wij zijn gevestigd in
Engeland).

Flashbay heeft een unieke levertijd van maximaal 6 werkdagen. Ter voorbeeld:
indien je vandaag een bestelling zou plaatsen worden de USB sticks
uiterlijk 26 mei al geleverd.

Ik heb het voorbeeldpakket, met daarin al onze modellen, per post
opgestuurd. Deze zal morgen worden bezorgd. Laat me dan even weten of er een
model voor jullie uitspringt?

Als je mij een *logo* toestuurt in EPS / PDF / Hoge resolutie JPG formaat
dan zal ik alvast een paar vrijblijvende virtuele PDF proeven opsturen,
zodat je een beeld krijgt van hoe het eruit kan komen te zien.

Ik zie je reactie graag tegemoet.
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[Ubuntu-be] Fwd: usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Steven Leeman]

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Jan Bongaerts wrote:

> Steven,
> 't was natuurlijk maar een grapje over onze Belgische politiek (of eerder,
> het gebrek daaraan).
> Gelokaliseerde versies is geen probleem, maar wie gaat zoiets sponsoren?
>

mijns insziens zou ik ze niet "gratis" uitdelen... ik heb een schuif vol met
cisco/microsoft/bouwsalon/autosalon/Cebit sticks van 64mbyte tot 256mbyte
:-)
Mensen zijn te gretig met het verzamelen van "goodies"... (kijkend naar mijn
eigen schuif)
maar de canonical versie is gewoonweg te prijzig (20 euro)... ik heb onlangs
nog een 4gbyte "pinguin" stick gekocht in de aldi voor amper 7 euro (ik kon
het niet laten :-)

maar je zit wel met een 'investering'...
en koop je ze als vzw aan zonder btw...en reken je ze nadien door aan de
events;
of betaal je direct de btw... maar dan zit je met een grijze zone... je
koopt een 'lege' gepersonaliseerde stick aan  in bijv nederland aan 20% btw;
je voegt er ubuntu aan toe... je moet op je verkoopsprijs dan nog eens 21%
op de "belastbare toegevoegde waarde" bijrekenen? heb je 2 overheden
gesponsord? :-)
of je koopt/verkoopt ze niet als produkt maar als
merchandising/reklame/investering; zonder btw... boekhouding zoals
Lernout&Hauspie... elke balpen voor het personeel was een investering...
zitten hier creatieve boekhouders?
neem je de 1gbyte sticks... Ubuntu houdt er zich aan om bij 700mbyte te
blijven; ze laten hier met plezier pitivi en andere dingen voor vallen; en
een minimale afname van 100stuks...zit je toch al gauw aan 600 euro "slapend
kapitaal" dat je ergens moet vandaan halen/voorschieten...En zonder btw
nummer komt daar dan nog eens 20-21% bij...

ik ben ondertussen alle informatie aan't stockeren op de wikihttps://
wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011







Als we iemand vinden, denk ik niet dat vzw een probleem is. We benaderen ze
> gewoon als ubuntu-be, end of story.
> De administratie zoeken we daarna wel uit.
>
> Groeten,
> Jan.
>
>
> On 18 May 2011 20:56, Steven Leeman  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Jan Bongaerts wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think it should be for free neither. We can still offer the CD
>>> for free (and a small gift..) for those who don't want to spend the 10 bucks
>>> or so on a usb.
>>>
>>> Off topic:
>>> Flemish government?
>>> It's ubuntu-*be*, so it should be *federal* government sponsorship.
>>>
>>
>> "lokalized" version ...which means french/dutch language packs added?
>> not so difficult...allready done incl belgian keyboard
>> perhaps we should ask telenet or cera which seem to sponsor a "digital
>> divide" initiative but it has to come from the vzw
>>
>>
>> Which will be the current version by the time we have one?
>>> Still 11.04?
>>> 11.10?
>>> 12.04?
>>> ...
>>> Bets are open
>>> :-D
>>>
>>> no idea  the usb sticks can be ordered within the week
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 May 2011 20:19, Steven Leeman  wrote:
>>>
 I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
 unless you can find such a sponsor?
 Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen wrote:

> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts  wrote:
>
> Some more advantages:
>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity 
> becomes
> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
>
> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
> quicker too.
>
> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike
> the CD. We would have to charge money.
>
> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer
> the usage of my bvba.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan.
>
> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker < 
> wouterv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Steven
>>
>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the
>> idea on: 
>> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>> I'll
>> also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). 
>> Feel
>> free to discus it there as well.
>>
>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I
>> can think of right

Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[wouter Vandenneucker]

Very interesting thought..We could have their name on 1side of the stick and 
Ubuntu-be on the other side.
Despite that I have some concerns:- Will any company sponsor this if we aren't 
a VZW (will we be taken serious)- The sticks have to stay ours, it should be 
about U and U-be not the company (as in: their logo shouldn't be bigger than 
ours and the default homepage shouldn't be theirs)(I'm sure we can work 
something out that works for both a company and us)- We should have a clear 
objective worked out before going to a company (how much/who's the 
target/what's the deal..)- Find a company (Q: is there a company in Belgium 
that give Ubuntu or Linux lessons?)
grts

Wouter
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 20:19:44 +0200
From: ste...@leeman.be
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
CC: jbongae...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

I wouldn't offer them for free imho?unless you can find such a sponsor?Flemish 
gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen  wrote:

The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking 
sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company


Sent from my iPhone
On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts  wrote:


Some more advantages:
 It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest version. 
No risk of stock becoming o-bsolete, except if the capacity becomes outdated. 
Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.





It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be quicker 
too.

Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the CD. 
We would have to charge money.

A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead before 
the vzw is established, I might be able to help.




If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the usage 
of my bvba.

Cheers,
Jan.

On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker  wrote:









Hey Steven
Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I think it 
is something that might require us to be a VZW. 



Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea on: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011



I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). 
Feel free to discus it there as well.




I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can 
think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):



- More durable than a CD- More valuable (less chance they just install it and 
than ditch it)



- Can be updated- You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if 
you like)- People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising 
for us. (Free Publicity)



- Also works for Netbook owners- Really awesome goodie.

- Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once we 
finally create it..)

grts




Wouter
PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.




On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:





Hi,
Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I 
could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.



No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB stick 
in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who overwintered... 
I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained another Ubuntero.





I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had 
some on Fosdem...




Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...




http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874



4gbyte usb stick20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport

I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me following 
prices:
model "Usb Incentive" : 
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html




4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells themPrice/piece: €7,66Logo Print: 
€0,10Transport (China): €20,-Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)





1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for extra's 
(NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)Price/piece €5,26Logo 
Print: €0,10
Transport (China): €20,-Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB sticks 
from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing of the logo in 2 
colors.



Printing costs per color are €0,05.
Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal 
envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
 ... the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your 
usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...



The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick

Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Steven Leeman]

I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
unless you can find such a sponsor?
Flemish gouvernment with an "edubuntu" release? :-)

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen  wrote:

> The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
> sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts  wrote:
>
> Some more advantages:
>  It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
> version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
> outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
>
> It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
> quicker too.
>
> Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
> CD. We would have to charge money.
>
> A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
> before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
> If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
> usage of my bvba.
>
> Cheers,
> Jan.
>
> On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker < 
> wouterv...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Steven
>>
>> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
>> think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
>> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
>> on: 
>> 
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
>> I'll
>> also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel
>> free to discus it there as well.
>>
>> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can
>> think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
>> - More durable than a CD
>> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
>> - Can be updated
>> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
>> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising for
>> us. (Free Publicity)
>> - Also works for Netbook owners
>> - Really awesome goodie.
>> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once
>> we finally create it..)
>>
>> grts
>>
>>
>> Wouter
>>
>> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>>
>> --
>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200  steven@leeman.bewrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I
>> could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
>> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
>> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
>> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
>> another Ubuntero.
>>
>> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
>> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>>
>> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>>
>> 
>> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
>> 4gbyte usb stick
>> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>>
>> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
>> following prices:
>>
>> model "Usb Incentive" : 
>> 
>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
>> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
>> Price/piece: €7,66
>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>>
>> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
>> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
>> Price/piece €5,26
>> Logo Print: €0,10
>> Transport (China): €20,-
>> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>>
>> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
>> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) *including printing of
>> the logo in 2 colors.*
>> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>>
>> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
>> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>> 
>> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
>>  ...
>> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
>> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
>> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>>
>> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>>
>> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a
>> small profit...
>> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date

Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[martijn cielen]

The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company

Sent from my iPhone

On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts  wrote:

Some more advantages:
 It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.

It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
quicker too.

Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
CD. We would have to charge money.

A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead before
the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
usage of my bvba.

Cheers,
Jan.

On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker  wrote:

>  Hey Steven
>
> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I think
> it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
> on:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
> I'll
> also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel
> free to discus it there as well.
>
> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can
> think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
> - More durable than a CD
> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
> - Can be updated
> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising for
> us. (Free Publicity)
> - Also works for Netbook owners
> - Really awesome goodie.
> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once we
> finally create it..)
>
> grts
>
>
> Wouter
>
> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>
> --
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I
> could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
> another Ubuntero.
>
> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>
> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>
> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
> 4gbyte usb stick
> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>
> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me following
> prices:
>
> model "Usb Incentive" :
> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
> Price/piece: €7,66
> Logo Print: €0,10
> Transport (China): €20,-
> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>
> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
> Price/piece €5,26
> Logo Print: €0,10
> Transport (China): €20,-
> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>
> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) *including printing of
> the logo in 2 colors.*
> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>
> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>
> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
>  ...
> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>
> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>
> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a
> small profit...
> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
> talking about USB hubs)
> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except when
> you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
>
> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Jan Bongaerts]

Some more advantages:
 It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.

It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
quicker too.

Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
CD. We would have to charge money.

A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead before
the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
usage of my bvba.

Cheers,
Jan.

On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker  wrote:

>  Hey Steven
>
> Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I think
> it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
> Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
> on:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
> I'll
> also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel
> free to discus it there as well.
>
> I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can
> think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
> - More durable than a CD
> - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
> - Can be updated
> - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
> - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising for
> us. (Free Publicity)
> - Also works for Netbook owners
> - Really awesome goodie.
> - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once we
> finally create it..)
>
> grts
>
>
> Wouter
>
> PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
>
> --
> On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I
> could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.
> No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB
> stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
> overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
> another Ubuntero.
>
> I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...
> I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had some on Fosdem...
>
> Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
>
> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
> 4gbyte usb stick
> 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
>
> I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me following
> prices:
>
> model "Usb Incentive" :
> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
> 4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells them
> Price/piece: €7,66
> Logo Print: €0,10
> Transport (China): €20,-
> Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
>
> 1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
> extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
> Price/piece €5,26
> Logo Print: €0,10
> Transport (China): €20,-
> Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
>
> The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
> sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) *including printing of
> the logo in 2 colors.*
> Printing costs per color are €0,05.
>
> Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal
> envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
>
> http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
>  ...
> the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
> usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...
> The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.
>
> I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
>
> You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a
> small profit...
> - "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
> - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
> atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
> talking about USB hubs)
> - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except when
> you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
> - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
> else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.
>
> Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?
>
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[wouter Vandenneucker]

Hey Steven
Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I think it 
is something that might require us to be a VZW. Nevertheless, I'd like to 
discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea on: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011I'll 
also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel 
free to discus it there as well.
I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can 
think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):- More durable 
than a CD- More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)- 
Can be updated- You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if 
you like)- People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising 
for us. (Free Publicity)- Also works for Netbook owners- Really awesome 
goodie.- Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once 
we finally create it..)
grts

Wouter
PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:

Hi,
Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I 
could deliver "ubuntu" on a USB stick and send it to France.No problem... in 
123 the last version of ubuntu in "Dutch" sent on a 1GB stick in an envelope 
straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who overwintered... I already 
received some beautiful printscreens... Gained another Ubuntero.

I've watched out for "preloaded" ubuntu sticks...I believe that "Ubuntu-fr" had 
some on Fosdem...
Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=8744gbyte usb stick20,36 
euro + 7,51 euro transport

I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me following 
prices:
model "Usb Incentive" : 
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
4 GB 2.0 -> Like Canonical sells themPrice/piece: €7,66Logo Print: 
€0,10Transport (China): €20,-Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)

1 GB 2.0  -> Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for extra's 
(NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)Price/piece €5,26Logo 
Print: €0,10
Transport (China): €20,-Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)
The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB sticks 
from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) including printing of the logo in 2 
colors.Printing costs per color are €0,05.
Although I was able to sent a normal "usb stick" to France in a normal 
envelope... it might be beter to use "creditcard' models?
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
 ... the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your 
usb-ports  can't handle "wide" carts...The extra amount for a creditcar model 
is €0,48 per stick.
I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?
You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a 
small profit...- "ubuntu cd's" are out of date after 6 months...;
- Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports atm... 
you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't talking 
about USB hubs)- You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... 
(except when you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a "clock"?)
- USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something 
else... So the "buyer" isn't cheated with buying the stick.

Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?

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[Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

[Steven Leeman]

Hoi,

afgelopen maand kreeg ik een vraag via het supportpoint netwerk of ik
"ubuntu" kon leveren op een usb stick en naar Frankrijk sturen.
Geen probleem...op 123 de laatste ubuntu in't "Nederlands" op een 1gbyte
stick in een envelop richting Cote D'Azur gestuurd naar een Belg die er
overwinterde... ik kreeg al mooie schermafdrukken terug opgestuurd... Weer
een Ubuntero erbij.

ik heb eens gekeken naar "preloaded" ubuntu...
Ik geloof dat "ubuntu-fr" er had op Fosdem...

Via de Canonical shop kost het alvast meer dan 28 euro  voor een 4gbyte
stick...

http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
4gbyte usb stick
20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport

Ik heb de eerste beste USB fabrikant aangesproken en die gaf volgende
prijzen:

model "Usb Incentive" :
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
4 GB 2.0 -> zoals Canonical verkoopt
Stuk prijs: €7,66
Bedrukking logo: €0,10
Verzendkosten (China): €20,-
Totaal voor 100 stuks: €796,- (excl. BTW)

1 GB 2.0  -> Is de minimum grootte dat voldoende is voor Ubuntu live cd...
kan nog voor 300mbyte aan extra's (NL taal bijvoorbeeld... evt nog wat extra
programma's?)
Stuk prijs: €5,26
Bedrukking logo: €0,10
Verzendkosten (China): €20,-
Totaal voor 100 stuks: €526,- (excl. BTW)

De minimale afname is 100 stuks, dus bij deze een richtprijs voor 100 USB
sticks
van de gunstigste prijsklasse (zoals USB Incentive)* inclusief bedrukking
van een logo in 2 kleuren.*
De kosten per kleur zijn €0,05 per kleur.

Alhoewel ik zonder probleem een "usb stick" in een gewone envelop kon
versturen naar Frankrijk... is het misschien beter om "kredietkaart"
modellen te gebruiken?
http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
...
de ervaring is dat het "stick" gedeelte er makkellijk uit kan geklikt worden
mocht je "volzette" usb poorten geen "brede" kaarten kunnen accepteren...
De meerprijs voor het creditcard model bedraagt: € 0,48 per stick.

Ik kan ook eens horen bij andere leveranciers?

de usb sticks deel je natuurlijk niet gratis uit maar verkoop je met een
kleine winst...
- "ubuntu cd's" zijn snel verouderd...;
- cd's duren toch redelijk om te branden (de gemiddelde pc heeft
tegenwoordig 6 usb poorten...je hebt dus in 123 6 usb sticks beschreven...We
zwijgen nog over een usb hub)
- cd's schrijf je eenmalig en nadien zijn ze voor de vuilbak(tenzij je
een mooi artistieke opdruk hebt zodat ze nog als "klok" kunnen gebruikt
worden?)
- usb sticks kun je updaten... of de inhoud vervangen door iets anders...
dus de "koper" is er niet aan voor de moeite

misschien voer voor een leuke discussie?
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