[Bug 1922781] Re: Does not appear to work in Hirsuit Hippo

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Bell
it is a Wayland related issue. Works fine in an Ubuntu on Xorg session.

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[Bug 1922781] [NEW] Does not appear to work in Hirsuit Hippo

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

upgraded to Hirsuit Hippo, and also on a fresh install, Barrier in
server mode or client mode doesn't appear to operate the mouse across
screens, the log shows the screen switch - so the other computer is
connecting, but the mouse cursor just disappears until you move it back.

** Affects: barrier (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1358050] Re: Some icons assume familiarity with other OS

2016-08-26 Thread Alan Bell
seriously? you are going to wilfully infringe on registered trademarks, you 
have been offered alternative suggestions and accepting them is low priority?
What can the community do to sort this out? I have done two merge requests with 
different browser icons, both were rejected. The design team clearly don't want 
to address it, so we have a "patches not welcome" situation. Where do we go 
from here? Is looking like a cheap knockoff a design goal?

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[Bug 1604446] Re: getcurrentPosition in oxide does not cause a wake up of the GPS

2016-07-20 Thread Alan Bell
Last known position is almost always going to be a full house level GPS lock on 
the place where you last turned off a map application, probably the last 
destination you navigated to. Might also be a full GPS lock on the last place 
you took a photograph. This could be a problem for implementing things like 
http://pooperapp.com/ on Ubuntu Touch ;)
As long as getCurrentPosition doesn't just return LKP and calls startupdates() 
and returns the first position from that (I am a little unconvinced it calls 
startupdates at all, because then repeated calls would presumably eventually 
work and they don't?)

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[Bug 1604446] Re: getcurrentPosition in oxide does not cause a wake up of the GPS

2016-07-20 Thread Alan Bell
worth noting that the last known position isn't an estimate of where you
are with low and decreasing accuracy (like a cell tower position is),
where you have a rough position and an error radius, so you are in that
circle with some kind of probability distribution on where you can
expect to be found. It is a high accuracy position of where you have
been at some point in the past, beyond a few minutes old it really is a
very bad thing to store and return - it isn't an approximation of the
current position.

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[Bug 1604446] [NEW] getcurrentPosition in oxide does not cause a wake up of the GPS

2016-07-19 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

A browser based application that wants to use position can call 
getCurrentPosition
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation/getCurrentPosition
or watchPosition
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Geolocation/watchPosition

maps (such as google maps) and navigation applications will typically use 
watchPosition which will cause location services to turn on the GPS chip and 
get a new location for the device.
non-map applications that just want location aware context for things such as 
weather or local stores e.g. https://www.aldi.co.uk/store-finder do not 
subscribe to updates with watchPosition. They just call getCurrentPosition and 
expect a decent enough position to use.

Ubuntu Touch returns the last known position from the cache when
getCurrentPosition is called, and then fails to turn on the GPS. It
should block until it has a decent position and return good data to the
success callback. It certainly shouldn't return a bad position and then
fail to make an effort to get a good position.

The result of this bug is that you can go to a location aware web page,
it will think you are somewhere else entirely, and refreshing will not
improve the situation, you have to open a mapping application that uses
watchPosition and wait for a fix to be obtained before going back to
your location aware web page and refreshing to get good data.

** Affects: location-service (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

** Affects: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

** Also affects: location-service (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1604446] Re: getcurrentPosition in oxide does not cause a wake up of the GPS

2016-07-19 Thread Alan Bell
another site to test this on is https://www.where-am-i.net/

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[Bug 1588994] Re: Location not working since OTA-11 on BQ 4.5

2016-07-08 Thread Alan Bell
GPS is working badly on my phone - location services really doesn't like
turning on the GPS which is a long standing problem. Just because GPS is
turned on does not mean it is actually on at all. It should be working a
little bit though, but only on moving dot map applications, single
requests for a location almost never work.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-10 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1358050

here you go, one suru folded world map with a black cat silouette based
on a public domain and unencumbered image
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:P_cat.svg

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1358050

You can't just say that Safari has more market recognition so you will
use their trademark for your commercial product in the same product
class! That is exactly what trademarks are there to prevent and if the
intent is to cause confusing that is very problematic. You can certainly
use a globe or map, that is a common element going back to NCSA Mosaic
and is a hard thing to trademark anyway. I dunno about the north west
pointing compass, maybe a trademark lawyer would have an opinion on
that. I think I would just replace it with a photo of a cat, that
represents the modern internet pretty well.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1358050

if it isn't a priority then lets just slap any old image on it for now
and do a new design when it gets to the top of the list. I really don't
mind what I click on to launch the browser, I just don't want the
project exposed to treble damages from wilful infringement of a
trademark that isn't even a very good icon for a browser. *anything*
will do.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1358050 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1358050

very much so, and that one is even older and more neglected!

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1358050
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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-09 Thread Alan Bell
why not use the already drawn pictogram for the internet
https://design.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/pictogram-internet-orange-
hex.svg why are all icons on the phone not meeting the pictogram style?

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-06-08 Thread Alan Bell
I must say I was somewhat surprised about the article, but not quite as
surprised as I am that this has been left for so long and even went
through a redesign without addressing the problem.

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[Bug 1568889] Re: OTA and u-d-f fail if image is too big for the system partition

2016-06-03 Thread Alan Bell
after flashing over USB I have this

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ df -h
Filesystem   Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev 479M  4.0K  479M   1% /dev
tmpfs 97M  348K   96M   1% /run
/dev/mmcblk0p7   4.4G  840M  3.4G  20% /userdata
/dev/mmcblk0p6   2.0G  1.6G  392M  81% /
/dev/loop0   141M  139M  1.8M  99% 
/android/system
none 4.0K 0  4.0K   0% /android
tmpfs481M  4.0K  481M   1% /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-path/platform-mtk-msdc.0-part5  688M   12M  677M   2% 
/android/cache
none 4.0K 0  4.0K   0% 
/sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs481M  2.1M  479M   1% /tmp
cgmfs100K 0  100K   0% 
/run/cgmanager/fs
none 5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
none 481M  7.6M  473M   2% /run/shm
none 100M 0  100M   0% /run/user
tmpfs481M 0  481M   0% /media
tmpfs481M  8.0K  481M   1% /var/lib/sudo
tmpfs 97M   48K   97M   1% 
/run/user/32011
tmpfs 97M 0   97M   0% /run/user/0
/dev/mmcblk1p1   1.9G  794M  1.1G  42% 
/media/phablet/9016-4EF8

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ sudo du -sh *
129Mandroid
6.7Mbin
4.0Kboot
0   cache
206Mcustom
0   data
4.0Kdev
7.3Metc
0   factory
0   firmware
429Mhome
33M lib
4.0Klost+found
788Mmedia
4.0Kmnt
191Mopt
0   persist
du: cannot access ‘proc/948/task/1554/fdinfo/74’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/948/task/1554/fdinfo/77’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/20526/task/20526/fd/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/20526/task/20526/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/20526/fd/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/20526/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory
0   proc
12K root
4.7Mrun
7.2Msbin
4.0Ksrv
0   sys
0   system
2.1Mtmp
76M userdata
1.1Gusr
260Mvar
0   vendor

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[Bug 1568889] Re: OTA and u-d-f fail if image is too big for the system partition

2016-06-03 Thread Alan Bell
I have 27MB of stuff in /var/log
there is a dpkg.log.1 showing stuff installed on 2016-02-17 showing stuff being 
unpacked and configured, I think that is first boot stuff from when I wiped it, 
no packages installed after that.
looking at where the space is used

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/$ sudo du -sh *
315Mandroid
6.7Mbin
4.0Kboot
0   cache
295Mcustom
0   data
4.0Kdev
8.6Metc
0   factory
0   firmware
501Mhome
33M lib
16K lost+found
788Mmedia
4.0Kmnt
191Mopt
0   persist
du: cannot access ‘proc/21112/task/21112/fd/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/21112/task/21112/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/21112/fd/4’: No such file or directory
du: cannot access ‘proc/21112/fdinfo/4’: No such file or directory
0   proc
12K root
488Krun
7.2Msbin
4.0Ksrv
0   sys
0   system
28K tmp
72M userdata
1.2Gusr
461Mvar
0   vendor


/usr /var and /custom seem to account for the space used

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[Bug 1568889] Re: OTA and u-d-f fail if image is too big for the system partition

2016-06-02 Thread Alan Bell
well I for one did once enable r/w and installed packages (don't think
it was much more than pastebinit) however around OTA9 I reflashed the
device destroying data and returning to factory, when through the
startup wizard and everything and I have not enable r/w since then, and
my phone won't install OTA11. So, either it does happen for people who
haven't enabled r/w or the process of reflashing over adb doesn't
actually clear out all the stuff it was supposed to do.

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[Bug 1588377] Re: image failed to apply, out of disk space

2016-06-02 Thread Alan Bell
content of /cache/recovery

phablet@ubuntu-phablet:/cache/recovery$ ls -lh
total 186M
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root21M Jun  2 09:23 
custom-b733f4c4b681ceb00fd7e2438f988f27131a4a240b2688d5cbdbbd2638defb42.delta-custom-42d2023b9aa5bcd6aaf941b96d1e4faac6db98ff092b86ccdd7eef7118f5ccc2.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root490 Jun  2 09:23 
custom-b733f4c4b681ceb00fd7e2438f988f27131a4a240b2688d5cbdbbd2638defb42.delta-custom-42d2023b9aa5bcd6aaf941b96d1e4faac6db98ff092b86ccdd7eef7118f5ccc2.tar.xz.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root62M Jun  2 09:23 
device-efc35f84216f37ee39df4800157fa451645a7366b7d61e0ba0a9cc39effe9dda.delta-device-e6940b7f46a9eb939e78f9592298ce942be5b186a767a46d0428511b0f3669ef.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root490 Jun  2 09:23 
device-efc35f84216f37ee39df4800157fa451645a7366b7d61e0ba0a9cc39effe9dda.delta-device-e6940b7f46a9eb939e78f9592298ce942be5b186a767a46d0428511b0f3669ef.tar.xz.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root884 Jun  2 14:18 image-master.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root836 Jun  2 14:18 image-master.tar.xz.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   2.0K Jun  2 14:18 image-signing.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root473 Jun  2 14:18 image-signing.tar.xz.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root  0 Jun  2 14:21 last_install
-rw-r- 1 root   root20K Jun  2 14:21 last_log_r
-rw-r--r-- 1 system system 123K Jun  2 14:21 log
-rw--- 1 root   root32M Jun  2 14:19 SWAP.img
-rw--- 1 root   root   1.2K Jun  2 14:18 ubuntu_command.applying
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root72M Jun  2 09:24 
ubuntu-d64b63aa1dc8e3da56d4cc567ed634c4cae551d0ccf69ce8d869bb7efd9bb9cd.delta-ubuntu-b5f4cc2c8fdcda0c8c2f1112f8ea22648af9fe2306e9038147427e8306c2acb2.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root490 Jun  2 09:23 
ubuntu-d64b63aa1dc8e3da56d4cc567ed634c4cae551d0ccf69ce8d869bb7efd9bb9cd.delta-ubuntu-b5f4cc2c8fdcda0c8c2f1112f8ea22648af9fe2306e9038147427e8306c2acb2.tar.xz.asc
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root464 Jun  2 09:23 version-33.tar.xz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root490 Jun  2 09:23 version-33.tar.xz.asc

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[Bug 1588377] Re: image failed to apply, out of disk space

2016-06-02 Thread Alan Bell
/cache/recovery/log attached

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[Bug 1588377] [NEW] image failed to apply, out of disk space

2016-06-02 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

OTA 11 was downloaded and the install process appeared to work with no
visible errors reported, but the image was not applied, it booted back
into OTA 10.1 this process was repeated through the GUI process and from
the command line, the log in /cache/recovery/log revealed that there was
an out of disk space error

** Affects: system-image (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
Probably worth mentioning that since filing this bug the icon for the
webbrowser-app has been changed, but not in a way that fixes the
concerns raised. Current icon attached now, still doesn't meet standards
for desktop icons and has an orange compass needle pointing north east.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
** Branch linked: lp:~alanbell/webbrowser-app/icon-1505970

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

2016-04-26 Thread Alan Bell
** Summary changed:

- [Icons] Icon isn't very good
+ [Icons] Web Browser icon is not distinctive to the Ubuntu brand

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[Bug 1572588] [NEW] does not use the new orange

2016-04-20 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

this toolkit uses #dd4814 as the colour orange.

css/sass/constants.scss:26:$ubuntu_orange: #dd4814;
css/appTemplate.css:1033:  background: #dd4814;
css/appTemplate.css:1168:  background: #dd4814;
css/appTemplate.css:1440:  color: #dd4814;

this has apparently been intentionally changed to #E95420 in the QML
toolkit so this should probably be updated to match. Now I am really not
sure if that should entail a version number bump from 0.1 to something
else. There were previous discussions about symlinking a "current"
pointer to a theme but these don't appear to have been implemented. As
this is a fairly subtle change it is probably not going to break
anything to update it in place without a version number bump.

see
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-community-team/2016-April/date.html 
for further discussion on the change.

** Affects: ubuntu-html5-theme (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1567940] Re: time displayed wrongly on production phone

2016-04-15 Thread Alan Bell
I tried both automatic and manual, made no difference until a reboot.

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[Bug 1567940] Re: time displayed wrongly on production phone

2016-04-08 Thread Alan Bell
it appears to have corrected itself after a reboot on my phone and I
can't reproduce it now. Very strange!

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[Bug 1554604] Re: get a GPS fix before the human has to wait for the phone

2016-03-19 Thread Alan Bell
so the procedure for taking a photo will remain that you have to start a
navigation application like google maps, wait for the circle to move and
shrink then switch to the camera and take your photo. This is sub-
optimal - you can't even take a series of photos on a walk without
waking up the GPS with a navigation app for each one.

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[Bug 1554604] [NEW] get a GPS fix before the human has to wait for the phone

2016-03-08 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

for battery efficiency the GPS is in a power saving mode when the phone is off, 
if the user unlocks the phone and turns the screen on there are various 
activities they might want to do that require a location fix, for example 
taking a photograph or visting a web page that requests the location.
Apps may be able to look at the timestamp of the location provided and request 
an update if it is too old, but this will result in the user waiting for the 
phone.
At the point of unlocking the screen the phone should start getting a fix, 
anticipating any location aware activity happening.

** Affects: unity8 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1554604] Re: get a GPS fix before the human has to wait for the phone

2016-03-08 Thread Alan Bell
probably needs to go around here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-
team/unity8/trunk/view/head:/qml/Greeter/Greeter.qml#L403

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[Bug 1533842] Re: Provide an indication whether GPS is in use and the status/quality of the fix

2016-03-08 Thread Alan Bell
might also help bug #1551683 where photos get incorrectly geotagged
because there is no GPS fix, if the user knows in advance the location
is junk they can run an application that gets a fix prior to taking
photos and can know when the fix is good.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: [Icons] Icon isn't very good

2016-03-07 Thread Alan Bell
this is really not a good idea to leave unfixed
http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=850198578

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[Bug 1551683] Re: camera uses stale GPS location data

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Bell
** Also affects: camera-app (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1551688] Re: Photos use stale GPS data

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1551683 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1551683

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1551683
   camera uses stale GPS location data

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[Bug 1551688] [NEW] Photos use stale GPS data

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

ensure that your device knows where it is (run unav or google maps in a
browser until you have a good fix) close location aware apps but leave
the phone on. Go for a nice long walk, and take a photos along the way
of flowers or some ducks or whatever takes your fancy. Your photos will
contain exif data including the GPS of your starting point as that
cached GPS position doesn't get updated.

The camera app should request a current location from location-services,
with a maximum age of zero, an old cached location is not useful in
determining where photos are taken

** Affects: camera-app (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1551686] [NEW] browser leaks old location data to web pages

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

visit a web page that requests your current location, for example http
://where-am-i.net it prompts to get permission to share the current
location, hit allow and it will probably show where you were a few hours
ago as the GPS will have a cached location. Refreshing won't update the
location, only applications that subscribe to updates cause the GPS to
get a new location.

The problem here is that I authorised the web page to know where I am
now. I am OK with giving my current position to the web page requesting
it. I *didn't* authorise it to know where I was yesterday or this
morning, and I might have reasons to not want it to know where my house
is, even though I am fine with it knowing where I am right now.

The web browser app should not reveal GPS locations that are older than
the decision to allow location to be shared with the page.

** Affects: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1551683] [NEW] camera uses stale GPS location data

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

ensure that your device knows where it is (run unav or google maps in a
browser until you have a good fix) close location aware apps but leave
the phone on. Go for a nice long walk, and take a photos along the way
of flowers or some ducks or whatever takes your fancy. Your photos will
contain exif data including the GPS of your starting point as that
cached GPS position doesn't get updated.

** Affects: location-service (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1505970] Re: Icon isn't very good

2015-10-14 Thread Alan Bell
** Attachment added: "dash.png"
   
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[Bug 1505970] [NEW] Icon isn't very good

2015-10-14 Thread Alan Bell
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the icon for the webbrowser-app does not use transparency, so is a big
square edged thing, which is inconsistent with other icons and looks out
of place on the dash and alt-tab. I don't know if phone icons are
supposed to meet the standards for desktop icons, or if desktop icons
should work well as phone icons, but if we are aiming for convergence
some kind of common ground is going to be required, or we end up with a
separate icon for desktop and phone?

** Affects: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1505970] Re: Icon isn't very good

2015-10-14 Thread Alan Bell
the icon for the browser with the blue and red north east pointing
compass is also, erm, lets say "weakly differentiated" from the icon for
the primary browser on a competitive platform.

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[Bug 1505970] Re: Icon isn't very good

2015-10-14 Thread Alan Bell
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[Bug 1500083] Re: kazam [1.4.5 and 1.5.3] crashed with TypeError in _interpolate_some(): get() got an unexpected keyword argument 'raw'

2015-09-30 Thread Alan Bell
editing
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/kazam/backend/config.py
line 101-103 to read

def get(self, section, key,raw=True,fallback='rest'):
try:
return super(KazamConfig,self).get(section, 
key,raw=raw,fallback=fallback)

allows it to start. This matches the keyword parameters with
configparser and calls the superclass method with the keyword
parameters. They should be ignored by whatever calls the KazamConfig get
method, but if anything else calls get on the KazamConfig class
expecting to get the method from the superclass it will also work.

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[Bug 1500083] Re: kazam [1.4.5 and 1.5.3] crashed with TypeError in _interpolate_some(): get() got an unexpected keyword argument 'raw'

2015-09-30 Thread Alan Bell
this is related to this issue http://bugs.python.org/issue14388
/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/kazam/backend/config.py extends 
/usr/lib/python3.4/configparser.py and has a get method, which requires 
different parameters to the configparser method.

** Bug watch added: Python Roundup #14388
   http://bugs.python.org/issue14388

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[Bug 1464064] Re: Ubuntu apt repos are not available via HTTPS

2015-07-21 Thread Alan Bell
some mirrors, e.g. https://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/ do support https
already, however there are other issues that would arise, such as
mirrors with broken certs, or certs that don't match the multiple dns
names for the server (see https://mirrors.us.kernel.org/ubuntu/ for
example) supporting https optionally on the Canonical run mirrors is
probably a good thing to do, and increasing the encrypted traffic
sloshing about on the internet is always a good thing to do (it puts the
needles in a bigger haystack).

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[Bug 1439640] [NEW] click packages not recognised as .ar archives

2015-04-02 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

the new .click package format is a .ar file containing some tar.gz
files, file-roller doesn't recognise .click files as ar archives and
refuses to open them. Renaming the click to a .ar allows it to open with
no issues.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.10
Package: file-roller 3.10.2.1-0ubuntu5
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.16.0-33.44-generic 3.16.7-ckt7
Uname: Linux 3.16.0-33-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.14.7-0ubuntu8.2
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Thu Apr  2 11:56:58 2015
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-05-01 (1065 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120421)
SourcePackage: file-roller
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to utopic on 2015-04-02 (0 days ago)

** Affects: file-roller (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Confirmed


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug utopic

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu phone issues not good for Ubuntu reputation

2015-03-27 Thread Alan Bell



On 27/03/15 23:11, David King wrote:



On 23/03/15 18:47, Gareth France wrote:



Having said that I've had it since about 2pm and I've broken it 
already! Looking at the scopes there is a star icon at the top right, 
it took several clicks before I realised it was removing my scope 
screens (nearby, weather etc). I don't have the manual with me so 
does anyone know how to put them back?






Me too, not very intuitive at all. Eventually I managed to get them 
back. Sometimes, but not always, you can swipe up from the bottom to 
get a list of possible scopes, including those that will show and 
others you can add. Then you can add back the ones you want.


But having a star icon on a scope suggests to me that if you press it 
then it will be a favourite, but it seems that a star means it is 
already a favourite, although I do not like the idea of pressing it 
and it disappears, because someone might press it accidentally.



David King



pressing the stars moves the scope up and down the list as well as 
checking and unchecking the star. Confused me to bits for a while. Try 
it with one of the ones at the top so you can see the home set of scopes 
and you will see what I mean. I think that needs a re-think, and in the 
pad popey says it is getting a re-think http://pad.ubuntu.com/phonefaq
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[Bug 1286276] Re: Lock screen whines that No data sources available on first use

2015-03-25 Thread Alan Bell
I did waste 10 minutes or so eagerly hunting around for data sources to
enable due to this message. It sounds like a call to action, you should
totally enable some data sources to see awesome stuff here but it
isn't. It should say nothing, or something that gives you a clue as to
what you are expected to do about it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Further Ubuntu phone observations

2015-03-25 Thread Alan Bell
you will need to be a member of a group that has access to the pad, the 
ubuntu-uk group has access, as does 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad so click the join button there 
and someone will approve you within a couple of minutes (it is a basic, 
but functional spam prevention system)


Alan.

On 25/03/15 10:48, Jon Spriggs wrote:
I think the Ubuntu One login system has been a little flakey today - 
I've certainly had problems. So, you need to login (via Ubuntu One) to 
contribute to the pad, but once you're in, that's it, you're in :)


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On 25 March 2015 at 10:16, Gareth France 
gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk mailto:gareth.fra...@cliftonts.co.uk 
wrote:


I have tried accessing this and get this response. Has it not been
fully set up yet?

OpenID Authentication Required

Authorization is required to access http://pad.ubuntu.com/phonefaq
Either you have not been granted access to this resource or your
entitlement has timed out. Please try again.
You are currently logged in as
https://login.ubuntu.com/+id/DTXmCYQ. (logout)

On 25/03/15 09:09, Gareth France wrote:

I asked the same question of Alan Pope yesterday. We're
putting together
something on http://pad.ubuntu.com/phonefaq which covers where
to report
bugs, what bugs are known about, what is outstanding on being
logged, etc.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu phone issues not good for Ubuntu reputation

2015-03-23 Thread Alan Bell
It is a bit of an odd launch, but I have fairly low expectations. We 
were in the first batch but don't have handsets yet, probably confused 
them by ordering two rather than one so they will have to think about 
how to package it. I am trying hard not to compare it with any kind of 
Apple launch and I have never really observed any android device launch, 
I just go to the shop and buy one if I want one. I think we just don't 
see distance selling product launches and our expectations are formed by 
Apple stuff and Amazon pre-orders for books and DVDs where the order 
turns up in the post on the launch date. If you think of it as a month 
of occasional pre-orders for an launch date of today(ish) then it 
suddenly seems massively more reasonable - they just called what was 
actually the start of pre-orders the launch date.


I think the problem for me is that whilst I had very low expectations 
around logistics, I had higher expectations of what I can do on the 
platform with web apps. The web app API documentation has been pulled 
(API and Cookbook links on 
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide/) and that 
whole chunk of platform integration functionality is deprecated/missing 
for remote web apps and reserved for locally installed HTML5 
applications, which wasn't really what I was expecting so I am trying to 
drag my expectations down to the new reality.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK Team Reboot

2014-12-05 Thread Alan Bell
well you are certainly not wrong, it has kind of drifted off, and my 
name is still on the door as point of contact, I am happy to step aside 
if that would help, or carry on (I am still sending out 14.04 CDs to 
anyone who sends an SAE and I am happy to continue doing that).


I would like to know if there is going to be a phone released in this 
country with Ubuntu Touch on it (or Unity 8 if that is what it is going 
to be known as). If there will be I think that could drum up some 
enthusiasm, people will want to know if it is worth getting one, and if 
it is worth skilling up to develop apps for it and integrate it with 
online stuff and business systems. If it is only going to be available 
in Elbonia then it is a bit hard to get worked up about it.



On 04/12/14 13:57, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to kick off a thread about rebooting the team. We have
discussions on the list, an active IRC channel, regular beer-related
celebrations and a podcast in its 7th year, but not a lot else (unless
I'm mistaken?) done as team effort.

So I wanted to start an open discussion here based on my assertion
that the team (such as it is) is currently somewhat moribund, and
needs a boot up the arse for 2015.

The questions I have are:-

a) Do you agree?
b) What shall we do about it?

In my mind I'd like to see us doing more in the way of advocacy, event
organising/attending, code jams, support and so on. We could all do
this individually or we could do it co-ordinated as a team. I'd prefer
the latter.

Discuss. :)

Cheers,
Al.




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[Bug 1322071] [NEW] when there is a horizontal scroll bar you can't drag up from the bottom of the window

2014-05-22 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

not really sure if this application has much desktop relevance, but it
seems to get the URL bar you click and drag up from somewhere near the
footer of the window, but if there is a horizontal scroll bar then you
can't get low enough for the drag to start.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
Package: webbrowser-app 0.23+14.04.20140428-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-24.47-generic 3.13.9
Uname: Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.14.1-0ubuntu3.2
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Thu May 22 08:47:44 2014
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-05-01 (750 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120421)
SourcePackage: webbrowser-app
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-25 (116 days ago)

** Affects: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


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[Bug 741869] Re: Unity/compiz intercepts Super and Alt keypresses from grabbed windows like VMs.

2014-05-15 Thread Alan Bell
cool, any chance of a backport of this fix into trusty?

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[Bug 741869] Re: Unity/compiz intercepts Super and Alt keypresses from grabbed windows like VMs.

2014-05-08 Thread Alan Bell
** Description changed:

  [Impact]
  After upgrading from Maverick to Natty, I can no longer use the Super 
(windows) key in Virtual Machine Manager. Previously, as long as I had the 
Virtual Machine Manager console window in the foreground, I could press the 
Super key and the start menu would pop up. Since upgrading to Natty, this no 
longer works, and the search box appears in the upper left.
  
  Also see bug #934921
  
  [Test Case]
  (1) Install virt-manager and qemu-system, create and boot a virtual machine
  (2) while in the virtual machine, press the Super key
  Expected Result: the super key acts inside the VM
  Actual Result: the super key acts in the host and the Unity Dash is displayed
  
  [regression Potential]
- This patch plays with ket grabs and ungrabs:  the most likely potential for 
regression is (a) the existing grabs continue and no fix obtains or (2) the 
grab is not resumed when returning control from the VM and the Super key does 
nto invoke the Unity Dash.
+ This patch plays with key grabs and ungrabs:  the most likely potential for 
regression is (a) the existing grabs continue and no fix obtains or (2) the 
grab is not resumed when returning control from the VM and the Super key does 
not invoke the Unity Dash.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Trusty problem .....

2014-03-15 Thread Alan Bell
I went through the same thing, lightdm stopped working last week some 
time, had to flip to gdm to fix it, but now I am back on lightdm and all 
is well (GDM was fine too, little bit prettier imho, but I like to run 
as standard as possible). Trusty looks like it is going to be a good 
one, a lot of the unity window manager bugs have been addressed, locally 
integrated menus are massively better than the global menu, alt-tab and 
alt-` and launcher mouse scroll wheel for window changing is generally 
not producing any of the surprising results it used to do.


Alan.


On 14/03/14 20:52, Barry Drake wrote:

On 14/03/14 15:18, Peter Smout wrote:
lightdm - this command should through you to the graphical login 
screen (may need to be run as root sudo)
It may also be worth checking the logs in /var/log (cd into /var/log 
and use nano to view the files) I'd look in the xorg log first if it 
still exists :)


Thanks all of you.  startx didn't help - x was already running. The 
xorg log shows no problems.  The problem is in, or associated with, 
lightdm, but stopping and restarting it made no difference. Currently, 
I have altered the default desktop manager to gdm. This works, but I 
really don't like it!  Lightdm running unity really is nice.  gdm is 
not as easy to use and is much slower.


I guess I'll just have to try lightdm after every likely update until 
it works again.  I booted into my paralell installation of 13.10 this 
morning to get access to Trusty and edit the desktop manager.  It is 
so slow compared with Trusty.  I'd forgotten about that.


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[Bug 1289775] Re: Can not login in mir session

2014-03-10 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1289264 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289264

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1289264
   Unity 8 preview session not starting in my system

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[Bug 1289622] Re: Cannot reveal Launcher in Desktop Sessions.

2014-03-10 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1289623 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289623

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1289623
   Cannot reveal Launcher in Desktop Sessions.

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[Bug 1288396] Re: does not appear to run a desktop

2014-03-10 Thread Alan Bell
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1289264 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1289264

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1289264
   Unity 8 preview session not starting in my system

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[Bug 741869] Re: Unity/compiz intercepts Super and Alt keypresses from grabbed windows like VMs.

2014-03-10 Thread Alan Bell
** Also affects: unity
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 1288163] [NEW] window z-order not intuitive when mouse wheel scrolling over launcher icon

2014-03-05 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

open several windows of one application type (gnome-terminal is good, but 
anything will do)
hover over the launcher icon and use the mouse wheel to scroll between them, 
raising windows one after another, scroll back and the sequence is not reversed.
rock the wheel back and forth one click at a time and it will alternate between 
one window and each of the others in turn.
I would expect that scrolling the wheel would pop a window from the top of the 
stack to the very bottom, scrolling the other way would pull windows off the 
bottom of the stack and put them on the top, that way window switching acts 
like a ring. Currently it seems to push the current window to top-1 then does 
some hard to describe sequence to pull others up in turn, it isn't reversable, 
so if you scroll through a lot of windows, go past the one you want and go back 
one, you don't get to the thing you wanted.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
Package: unity 7.1.2+14.04.20140228-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-12.32-generic 3.13.4
Uname: Linux 3.13.0-12-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.13.2-0ubuntu5
Architecture: amd64
CompizPlugins: No value set for 
`/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins'
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Wed Mar  5 10:14:16 2014
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-05-01 (672 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120421)
SourcePackage: unity
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-01-25 (38 days ago)

** Affects: unity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug trusty

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[Bug 1288396] [NEW] does not appear to run a desktop

2014-03-05 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

I installed unity8-desktop-session-x11 and unity8-desktop-session-mir,
both options appear in the lightdm desktops dropdown. The Mir option
does not appear to do anything, just hangs the lightdm screen. The x11
option boots to something with a phone shaped region in the top left
that jiggles about a bit when clicked but appears otherwise non-
functional. Should it do more than this?

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 14.04
Package: unity8-desktop-session-mir 1.0.10+14.04.20140303-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.13.0-15.35-generic 3.13.5
Uname: Linux 3.13.0-15-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.13.2-0ubuntu5
Architecture: amd64
CurrentDesktop: Unity
Date: Wed Mar  5 19:57:08 2014
InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-06-21 (257 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Alpha amd64 (20130621)
SourcePackage: unity8-desktop-session
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to trusty on 2014-02-01 (32 days ago)

** Affects: unity8-desktop-session (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug trusty

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[Bug 1081843] Re: [FFe] Launcher, Window Management - More Effective window switching for apps with multiple windows using the Launcher

2014-02-17 Thread Alan Bell
as a result of this change, mouse wheel on other launcher icons does
nothing useful at all and mouse wheel on the focussed app icon switches
windows in a different way, it certainly isn't reverse-able like it was,
it is deterministic, but I am struggling to describe the rule, if you
rock one click back and forth on the mouse wheel it flips between one
window and each of the others in turn. Prior to the update it flipped
back and forth between two windows - which preserves the nature of the
mouse wheel, if you use it to flip between windows and go past the
window you wanted, a reverse click now takes you to a different window.

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[Bug 1263786] Re: Nonsense behavior of scrollwheel over Launcher

2014-02-17 Thread Alan Bell
this is causing an 1172 problem for me
https://xkcd.com/1172/
what was the harm in having clickless app switching from the launcher exactly?

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[Bug 1263786] Re: Nonsense behavior of scrollwheel over Launcher

2014-02-17 Thread Alan Bell
yeah, I know I am on the bring back spacebar heating side of this one.
bah. I liked it.

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[Bug 1263786] Re: Nonsense behavior of scrollwheel over Launcher

2014-02-17 Thread Alan Bell
wow it does freaky stuff with the z-order now, this is barely
deterministic, it does different things for slow scrolling or pausing
between windows and fast scrolling. Probably worth a new bug with video
I think.

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[Bug 1278063] Re: date and time settings missing unity-control-center-datetime not installed

2014-02-09 Thread Alan Bell
I lacked unity-control-center-datetime having upgraded from saucy. I do
have ubuntu-desktop installed and this does not appear to be a
dependency of ubuntu-desktop.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-13 Thread Alan Bell
yeah, I was using a slightly fancy SLC SD card. I would expect bash to 
be faster, it has way less to do, however 0.4 seconds is not 2-3 seconds.


Alan.

On 08/11/13 17:03, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:

Twice that, on a class 10 SD card:

root@raspberrypi:~# cat  hello.py
print Hello, World!
root@raspberrypi:~# time python hello.py
Hello, World!

real0m0.443s
user0m0.140s
sys 0m0.090s

But it could just be a slow filesystem. Running it repeatedly, it's faster:

root@raspberrypi:~# time python /root/hello.py
Hello, World!

real0m0.223s
user0m0.180s
sys 0m0.010s

And using a tmpfs is equally fast:

root@raspberrypi:~# mkdir /tmp/test
root@raspberrypi:~# mount -t tmpfs -o size=20m tmpfs /tmp/test
root@raspberrypi:~# cp hello.py /tmp/test/
root@raspberrypi:~# time python /tmp/test/hello.py
Hello, World!

real0m0.205s
user0m0.180s
sys 0m0.020s

However, bash is WAY faster:

root@raspberrypi:~# echo 'echo Hello, World!'  hello.sh
root@raspberrypi:~# time bash hello.sh
Hello, World!

real0m0.021s
user0m0.000s
sys 0m0.010s

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[Bug 1250134] Re: RemoteContent field should be mandatory in .scope file

2013-11-12 Thread Alan Bell
setting the default to true would be just as good if making a mandatory
field is challenging - that also wouldn't break any existing scopes that
don't declare a value for it. They would just only be used if online
searching was enabled, if they don't specify that they are safe for
local only mode then we should assume they do some online stuff.

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[Bug 848154] Re: ARM version not supporting V6 RaspPi

2013-11-10 Thread Alan Bell
Hard float is the plan. We intend to build every package that builds, so
that would include KDE. I have no idea what will end up on the SD card,
and what point we get a desktop running, the initial target is booting
to a command line, like Ubuntu Server. My ideal result would be an SD
card that boots to the OEM setup wizard then the Unity desktop, but if
KDE works too then a Kubuntuish card would be brilliant as well, running
oem-config-kde

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-07 Thread Alan Bell
I use python on the pi all the time, it works just fine for me, but I 
don't do much time critical stuff. Printing to the console is a bit 
slowish, but I do plenty of stuff responding to USB events and flashing 
LEDs attached to the GPIO and stuff like that.
Mostly not desktop applications, just scripts that control things, log 
data to databases, that kind of stuff.
I have also installed OpenERP on the Pi, that is a biggish python based 
server application. It wasn't quick, but neither was it slow enough that 
I didn't manage to install it, (including postGRES) and set up a company 
in it over the course of an evening.


Alan.

On 07/11/13 16:19, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:

Hi Alan,

Please add make Python not suck on Raspberry Pi to your list of requests.
Execution time for python is so bad I had to rewrite a number of my tools
as shell scripts. Since many tools in Ubuntu are based on Python, I expect
that'll be on your list anyway.

Hopefully that's just an issue with the Raspbian builds and not an inherent
issue with the processor. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-07 Thread Alan Bell

odd, do you get something different to this?

pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat hello.py
print Hello, World!
pi@raspberrypi ~ $ time python hello.py
Hello, World!

real0m0.248s
user0m0.180s
sys0m0.050s



On 07/11/13 20:06, Tyler J. Wagner wrote:

Alan,

I notice that python startup is unacceptably slow. Perhaps once the program
is running, it's better. For instance, using python to gather data for
snmpd is even an option, as it takes 2-3 seconds to run a simple subprocess
call. Bash does the same almost instantly.

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[Bug 1248931] Re: Mumble window always starts behind other windows

2013-11-07 Thread Alan Bell
first time I launched it the mumble UI started on a different monitor to
the one I used the dash on, subsequent starts were all on the primary
monitor and all behind other windows.

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[ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Bell

Hi all,
I have been keen on the idea of the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu for some 
time, and finally decided to get together with some folk and do 
something about it. So we are doing a crowd funding indiegogo thing to 
raise money to build a cluster of Pi devices that will be tasked with 
building all the packages that make up Ubuntu. You can read more about 
it, including some of the backstory about why the Pi didn't run Ubuntu 
from the start at the project page here

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu/x/5206923
We would welcome contributions, discussion, or general advice :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Bell

On 06/11/13 20:50, Barry Drake wrote:

On 06/11/13 20:12, Alan Bell wrote:
I have been keen on the idea of the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu for 
some time, and finally decided to get together with some folk and do 
something about it. So we are doing a crowd funding indiegogo thing 
to raise money to build a cluster of Pi devices that will be tasked 
with building all the packages that make up Ubuntu. You can read more 
about it, including some of the backstory about why the Pi didn't run 
Ubuntu from the start at the project page here




Well done Alan.  Just what I've been waiting for.  I've contributed, 
and will offer help such as I can give.  I'm not much of a coder these 
days, but might be able to help in other ways.


Regards,Barry Drake.


wonderful, thanks for your support!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Bell

from the pitch . . .

Rasbian is a great operating platform for it, the LXDE desktop is fine, 
the Wayland demo was brilliant and loads of cool projects are happening 
based on the Pi. We still want Ubuntu on it though. We are using it in 
embedded projects, it is also turning up in things like the OpenERP 
Point of Sale kit, situations where it doesn't need a responsive user 
interface (or a user interface at all). It would be great to know that 
all the libraries we are using on it are the same versions we are using 
on other computers that are running Ubuntu. 


Basically when writing code on my laptop to deploy on the pi I want it 
to be the same environment. Now I could run Debian Wheezy on my laptop 
of course, but I am not going to do that. I am running Ubuntu on my 
laptop and I want to run Ubuntu on the Pi. Seeing Ubuntu Desktop with 
Mir and Unity 8 would be kind of sweet, but the project isn't a failure 
if that doesn't work out - and the Unity desktop might well not run well 
on the Pi, we are well below the minimum recommended specification. It 
will be fun to try, but I don't want to set expectations too high. 
Having Ubuntu server as an expectation is probably deliverable, going 
above and beyond that would be a bonus.


Alan.

On 06/11/13 21:14, Nigel Verity wrote:

Alan

I'm all for maximising the choice of OS that can be run on a Pi, but 
your Indigogo pitch doesn't make clear what advantages Ubuntu server 
with no desktop will bring, compared to the existing Debian derivative 
which already provides LXDE. The pitch also gives the impression that 
if it does eventually prove possible to get Unity running on top of 
Pibuntu then the performance is not going to be up to much.


Please don't take this as pouring cold water on your plans, more a 
pointer for enhancing the FAQs.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Bell

On 06/11/13 22:19, Dan Fish wrote:
I think another aspect that should not be ignored is the potential 
roadmap for such arm devices. Admittedly I'm not aware of the 
Raspberry Pi's future direction, but in general more and more such arm 
devices seem to be in the offing. The raspberry pi itself has captured 
a stunningly large market share and surely Ubuntu should be trying to 
get a distro out at the start of the project, rather than being 
latecomers to Raspberry Pi V2.
I don't expect a revision of the Pi that changes the Broadcom chip or 
anything else in any significant way. It doesn't need to be faster for 
what it is, and so many people have made cases and mounting things for 
it and expect the GPIO pins to be exactly where they are etc. I think 
like the Arduino it is something that doesn't really need an upgrade, 
being stable is more important, so you can replace half a classroom's 
worth of them in a few years and expect it to not be different to the 
other half.


Unity performance notwithstanding, ubuntu server has a lot of 
potential on such a device (and IMHO is server is the jewel in the 
ubuntu crown)


Regards
Dan

Disclaimer - ubuntu server is in the roadmap for the NHS spine v2 ( 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/10/nhs_drops_oracle_for_riak/) - 
sorry for the El Reg link, but it's a brief and pretty accurate 
summary of future plans








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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Building Ubuntu for the Raspberry Pi, on the Raspberry Pi

2013-11-06 Thread Alan Bell

On 06/11/13 22:26, Andres wrote:

I recently heard more about beagle bone in FLOSS weekly.
Doesn't beagle bone support ubuntu for a number of years now?
Similar price, better hardware and a bit more open source?

yes, that is a good platform too.


What makes the pi so special? I thought it was the educational aspect 
of it.

If it is for server, why not beagle bone?
it is that bit cheaper, more of them out there, more people doing 
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[Bug 848154] Re: ARM version not supporting V6 RaspPi

2013-11-05 Thread Alan Bell
so, lets make this happen. http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a
-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu

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Re: email change

2013-10-29 Thread Alan Bell
you should have an unsubscribe confirmation email to your old address 
and a subscribe confirmation email to your new address, I pressed the 
buttons for you


Alan.
On 28/10/13 18:31, rodney jackson wrote:


How do I change my email for this group

I am currently getting emails from this  group  with this email: 
jackson...@sbcglobal.net mailto:jackson...@sbcglobal.net


But after this week this email is going to be closed, I am needing to 
change it to jackson.rodney.1...@gmail.com 
mailto:jackson.rodney.1...@gmail.com


Any helpe would be appreciated.

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[Bug 741869] Re: Unity/compiz intercepts Super and Alt keypresses from grabbed windows like VMs.

2013-10-22 Thread Alan Bell
based on the comment at #7 it almost certainly is going to remain broken
in compiz - however with Mir the input handlers are utterly different so
there might be an opportunity to have Ubuntu work with virtualisation
and remote desktops without grabbing keys from the guest.

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Re: Ubuntu and a screenreader

2013-10-18 Thread Alan Bell

On 18/10/13 01:29, tapper wrote:
hi what's going on with the new Ubuntu:  can i as a blind computer 
user install it with speech. are you going to update the wiki or even 
do a blog post about it. i will be very happy if you can get back to 
me and let me no as win 8 is a pile! thanks Tapper


sorry, it is dreadful to install at the moment, there are about 7 dots 
at the bottom of the ubiquity installer, each one isn't really a dot, it 
is a progress bar with zero length, this means that every page of the 
installer will read out loads of progress bar statuses

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345
You can fight your way through this, but it is hard. Hopefully 14.04 
will be installable as an LTS.


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Re: Ubuntu and a screenreader

2013-10-18 Thread Alan Bell

On 18/10/13 01:29, tapper wrote:
hi what's going on with the new Ubuntu:  can i as a blind computer 
user install it with speech. are you going to update the wiki or even 
do a blog post about it. i will be very happy if you can get back to 
me and let me no as win 8 is a pile! thanks Tapper


sorry, it is dreadful to install at the moment, there are about 7 dots 
at the bottom of the ubiquity installer, each one isn't really a dot, it 
is a progress bar with zero length, this means that every page of the 
installer will read out loads of progress bar statuses

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345
You can fight your way through this, but it is hard. Hopefully 14.04 
will be installable as an LTS.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - The Release Party

2013-10-16 Thread Alan Bell
Just a reminder, the release date and party is tomorrow night, at the 
Lord Nelson


Alan.


On 20/09/13 18:01, Alan Bell wrote:

Hi all,

it is that time again, another 6 months another release of our 
favorite operating system. This time it is Ubuntu 13.10 the Saucy 
Salamander, the first release featuring the new Mir display server and 
the unveiling of smart scopes which are like scopes, but smarter. The 
event is once more in a pub in London, this time at the Lord Nelson 
http://www.lordnelsonsouthwark.com which serves a variety of 
interesting burgers (including their special horse burger) up to 8PM. 
Once again our friends from Canonical will be joining us at the pub 
and I understand they will be getting a round in and sorting out some 
snacks which is nice - they might have some tshirts and other swag too.


Details are here, feel free to mark yourself as attending, or simply 
turn up on the night.
http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-salamander-release-party/ 



Do join us to celebrate the launch of Saucy, and debate the name of 
the next release (Tenacious Turkey? Talented Termite?)


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Re: I have a real show stopper here

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Bell
it is ctrl+S after the sound of the drums. If you don't hear the drums 
then it is possible that there is an issue with your audio and orca has 
cheerfully started and is silently talking.
The installer is basically broken at the moment because there are 7 
progress bars at the bottom of the screen which are visually very very 
short because they are being used to be coloured dots.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154345

I will poke some people about that bug, low seems a bit inappropriate 
given how unuseable it makes the installer


Alan.

On 01/10/13 15:03, eric oyen wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have a real show stopper here. I can't seem to get orca to start up from the 
installer dvd. I tried control-s right at boot and nothing. the documentation 
doesn't seem to suggest any other way to do this.

is there another way?

I really would like to have an operational linux machine here.

I have tried Vinux, but there isn't a lot of available software other than a 
few paltry apps and the gnome desktop.

I need this working.

HELP!

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[Bug 1154345] Re: Orca announces status of each steps' progress dot

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Bell
can we get the priority of this bumped up a bit, the installer is
basically completely unusable at the moment because it spends all its
time talking about each of the dots

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[Bug 1232015] [NEW] libxmlrpc-core-c3 replaces libxmlrpc-c3 but does not provide it

2013-09-27 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

the transitional package libxmlrpc-c3 has been dropped, it appears that
libxmlrpc-core-c3 replaces it but does not provide it. This means that
the openSIPs package for xmlrpc support http://apt.opensips.org/ and
anything else that depends on libxmlrpc-c3 can't install. I will file a
bug against that package suggesting they depend on libxmlrpc-core-c3
instead

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: libxmlrpc-core-c3 1.16.33-3.2ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-7.14-generic 3.11.1
Uname: Linux 3.11.0-7-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.12.4-0ubuntu1
Architecture: amd64
Date: Fri Sep 27 14:32:59 2013
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-05-01 (514 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120421)
MarkForUpload: True
SourcePackage: xmlrpc-c
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-06-12 (107 days ago)

** Affects: xmlrpc-c (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug saucy

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[Bug 1196631] Re: not hearing the drums on bootup

2013-09-25 Thread Alan Bell
drums work OK, but reading out every single dot as progress bar 3 or
progress bar 4 all the time is a bit rubbish

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[Bug 1229748] [NEW] modem manager probing causes bluegiga BLE112B to reset

2013-09-24 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

putting this device in the machine shows this in syslog

Sep 24 14:57:33 alanlaptop kernel: [227323.226530] cdc_acm 2-1.5:1.0: ttyACM0: 
USB ACM device
Sep 24 14:57:33 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) opening 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:34 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) closing 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:34 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) serial port 
closed
Sep 24 14:57:34 alanlaptop kernel: [227324.245624] cdc_acm 2-1.5:1.0: ttyACM0: 
USB ACM device
Sep 24 14:57:34 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) opening 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:35 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) closing 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:35 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) serial port 
closed
Sep 24 14:57:35 alanlaptop kernel: [227325.273609] cdc_acm 2-1.5:1.0: ttyACM0: 
USB ACM device
Sep 24 14:57:35 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) opening 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:36 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) closing 
serial port...
Sep 24 14:57:36 alanlaptop modem-manager[5505]: info  (ttyACM0) serial port 
closed

which appears to be repeated re-probing and resetting of the device

lsusb shows the following vendor/product id
Bus 002 Device 023: ID 2458:0001

** Affects: modemmanager (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1229748] Re: modem manager probing causes bluegiga BLE112B to reset

2013-09-24 Thread Alan Bell
adding this line to a file in /etc/udev/rules.d sorts out my issue

ATTRS{idVendor}==2458, ATTRS{idProduct}==0001,
ENV{ID_MM_DEVICE_IGNORE}=1

so yes, that needs to go in the modem-manager package

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - [Name]

2013-09-21 Thread Alan Bell

there is a bit of a list here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#A14.04

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[ubuntu-uk] Saucy Salamander - The Release Party

2013-09-20 Thread Alan Bell

Hi all,

it is that time again, another 6 months another release of our favorite 
operating system. This time it is Ubuntu 13.10 the Saucy Salamander, the 
first release featuring the new Mir display server and the unveiling of 
smart scopes which are like scopes, but smarter. The event is once more 
in a pub in London, this time at the Lord Nelson 
http://www.lordnelsonsouthwark.com which serves a variety of interesting 
burgers (including their special horse burger) up to 8PM. Once again our 
friends from Canonical will be joining us at the pub and I understand 
they will be getting a round in and sorting out some snacks which is 
nice - they might have some tshirts and other swag too.


Details are here, feel free to mark yourself as attending, or simply 
turn up on the night.

http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-salamander-release-party/

Do join us to celebrate the launch of Saucy, and debate the name of the 
next release (Tenacious Turkey? Talented Termite?)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Real Ale Train is next month!

2013-09-20 Thread Alan Bell

choo choo!

Real Ale Train tomorrow
loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/


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[Bug 918896] Re: returns no data from SQL server

2013-08-28 Thread Alan Bell
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #709210
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709210

** Also affects: pymssql (Debian) via
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=709210
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1211265] Re: top bar shadow overlays applications after monitor reconfiguration

2013-08-12 Thread Alan Bell
screenshot

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[Bug 1211265] [NEW] top bar shadow overlays applications after monitor reconfiguration

2013-08-12 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

not reliably reproducable on demand, but quite often after hot plugging
an external monitor over hdmi and reconfiguring it to be on the correct
side of the laptop I get the top bar shadow over the top of chromium
tabs and other applications. Seems fine on the laptop display, but gets
it messed up on the external monitor.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: unity 7.1.0+13.10.20130805-0ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.10.0-6.17-generic 3.10.3
Uname: Linux 3.10.0-6-generic x86_64
.tmp.unity.support.test.0:
 
ApportVersion: 2.12-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
CompizPlugins: No value set for 
`/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/active_plugins'
CompositorRunning: compiz
CompositorUnredirectDriverBlacklist: '(nouveau|Intel).*Mesa 8.0'
CompositorUnredirectFSW: true
Date: Mon Aug 12 11:49:09 2013
DistUpgraded: 2013-06-12 09:32:33,426 DEBUG enabling apt cron job
DistroCodename: saucy
DistroVariant: ubuntu
DkmsStatus:
 vboxhost, 4.2.16, 3.10.0-2-generic, x86_64: installed
 vboxhost, 4.2.16, 3.10.0-3-generic, x86_64: installed
 vboxhost, 4.2.16, 3.10.0-6-generic, x86_64: installed
GraphicsCard:
 Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0046] 
(rev 12) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
   Subsystem: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd Device [144d:c06a]
InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-05-01 (467 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Beta amd64 (20120421)
MachineType: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD. R530/R730
MarkForUpload: True
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.10.0-6-generic 
root=UUID=a1919e83-6201-440f-bc38-4482a9274054 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
SourcePackage: unity
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to saucy on 2013-06-12 (61 days ago)
dmi.bios.date: 03/12/2010
dmi.bios.vendor: Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
dmi.bios.version: 03JV.M011.20100312.hkk
dmi.board.asset.tag: Tag 12345
dmi.board.name: R530/R730
dmi.board.vendor: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.
dmi.board.version: Not Applicable
dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Tag
dmi.chassis.type: 9
dmi.chassis.vendor: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.
dmi.chassis.version: N/A
dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnPhoenixTechnologiesLtd.:bvr03JV.M011.20100312.hkk:bd03/12/2010:svnSAMSUNGELECTRONICSCO.,LTD.:pnR530/R730:pvrNotApplicable:rvnSAMSUNGELECTRONICSCO.,LTD.:rnR530/R730:rvrNotApplicable:cvnSAMSUNGELECTRONICSCO.,LTD.:ct9:cvrN/A:
dmi.product.name: R530/R730
dmi.product.version: Not Applicable
dmi.sys.vendor: SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS CO., LTD.
version.compiz: compiz 1:0.9.9~daily13.04.18.1~13.04-0ubuntu3
version.ia32-libs: ia32-libs N/A
version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.46-1
version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 9.1.4-0ubuntu8
version.libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental: libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental N/A
version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 9.1.4-0ubuntu8
version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu9
version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1
version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:7.2.0-0ubuntu2
version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.21.12-1ubuntu1
version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.8-0ubuntu3
xserver.bootTime: Sat Aug 10 21:46:10 2013
xserver.configfile: default
xserver.errors:
 
xserver.logfile: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
xserver.outputs:
 product id   12869 
 vendor SEC
xserver.version: 2:1.14.2-0ubuntu9

** Affects: unity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug compiz-0.9 saucy ubuntu

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[Bug 1211265] Re: top bar shadow overlays applications after monitor reconfiguration

2013-08-12 Thread Alan Bell
I can see why you would think that, looking to the right of the screen,
however it is the correct height as you can see, the top of the tabs
line up with the top of the BFB at the top of the launcher. The shadow
seems a bit too low as well as being on top.

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[Bug 1196631] [NEW] not hearing the drums on bootup

2013-07-01 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

testing saucy installer, not hearing drums when ubiquity starts. This is
the audio cue to press ctrl+s to start the orca screen reader (which
also doesn't appear to work at the moment - might be that both are
muted) so this is an important bit of audio.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: ubiquity (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.10.0-0.7-generic 3.10.0-rc7
Uname: Linux 3.10.0-0-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.10.2-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
Date: Mon Jul  1 19:00:48 2013
InstallCmdLine: noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet 
splash -- maybe-ubiquity
InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-06-21 (10 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Alpha amd64 (20130621)
MarkForUpload: True
SourcePackage: ubiquity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug saucy ubiquity-2.15.6

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[Bug 1196633] [NEW] screen reader option does not appear to function

2013-07-01 Thread Alan Bell
Public bug reported:

starting the screen reader from the accessibility indicator or by
pressing ctrl+s at the ubiquity first page does not appear to do
anything (might be an audio issue)

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10
Package: ubiquity (not installed)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.10.0-0.7-generic 3.10.0-rc7
Uname: Linux 3.10.0-0-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.10.2-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
Date: Mon Jul  1 19:03:53 2013
InstallCmdLine: noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz quiet 
splash -- maybe-ubiquity
InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-06-21 (10 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Alpha amd64 (20130621)
MarkForUpload: True
SourcePackage: ubiquity
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug saucy ubiquity-2.15.6

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[Bug 1070958] Re: Touchpad not working but USB mouse working

2013-06-23 Thread Alan Bell
I think this needs a kernel fix along the lines of this commit
http://kernel.opensuse.org/cgit/kernel/commit/?id=996ab492443658e15b0a6b912ed703411e005475
as per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/737482
however that might be a bit tricky as the DMI data looks like this 
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5792114/
System Information
Manufacturer: To be filled by O.E.M.
Product Name: To be filled by O.E.M.
Version: To be filled by O.E.M.
Serial Number: To be filled by O.E.M.
UUID: 03000200-0400-0500-0006-000700080009
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number: To be filled by O.E.M.
Family: To be filled by O.E.M.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Good morning!

2013-06-05 Thread Alan Bell

On 05/06/13 08:55, pete smout wrote:

On 05/06/13 05:59, Bod Soutar wrote:




Weight loss spam...really!

Pete




and blocked from the list already, please ignore.

Alan.

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[Bug 1174054] Re: Always on top breaks spread/expose

2013-05-14 Thread Alan Bell
confirmed, I don't get the black rectangles though

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[ubuntu-uk] enough folks

2013-05-10 Thread Alan Bell
I think this thread has gone about as far as it needs to, and then a bit 
further. Lets move on and talk about something else now.


Alan.

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