Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Isabel 6 heeft twee interfaces, een webinterface op activeX gebaseerd, maar je kan ook rechstreeks van uit je boekhoudpakket en met eenClient Isabel Synchronizer betalingen doorsturen naar isabel, misschien is dit mogelijk vanop linux vanuit een boekhoudpakket met een synchronizer. 2008/6/2 Serge van Ginderachter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BTW: is there some sort of Business owners running 100% Ubuntu/Linux usergroup in Belgium? Well, if there were, I would subscribe mine ;-) me too. Can we get a moederated list hosted on ubuntu-be for that? If not, I can provide one on one of my domains. Serge -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
On Wednesday 28 May 2008 15:16:38 Johan Beckers wrote: Wouter Horré schreef: I agree. If possible, close your account and move it somewhere else. Doesn't have to be AXA though. Dexia, for example, also supports linux/mac. Hmm ... following this thread with more than normal interest. I'm about to move my accounts to a new bank before this summer, and guess what, looking for a 100% Linux compliant bank :) BTW: is there some sort of Business owners running 100% Ubuntu/Linux usergroup in Belgium? Well, if there were, I would subscribe mine ;-) b. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
BTW: is there some sort of Business owners running 100% Ubuntu/Linux usergroup in Belgium? Well, if there were, I would subscribe mine ;-) me too. Can we get a moederated list hosted on ubuntu-be for that? If not, I can provide one on one of my domains. Serge -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
The KBC online business is based on the Isabel 6 security components for the Isabel 6 ActiveX (IE only) webbased version. 2008/5/28, Steven Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/28 Bram Biesbrouck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beste cliënt, KBC-Online for Business met beveiliging eBusiness Card is compatibel met PC (Windows) en in combinatie met Internet Explorer. Op de website www.kbc.be/welkom worden alle vereiste stappen die moeten uitgevoerd worden voor de installatie weergegeven. Apple wordt niet ondersteund en Linux wordt helaas ook niet ondersteund door KBC net zoals zijn tientallen UNIX-varianten. is this the infamous Isabel application? -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Cedric, you happen to work for Axa? ^_^ On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Cedric Janssens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can, close your bank account, go to Axa (they were not compatible with Linux, but they knew it and they've just implemented a new version, specially for Linux/Mac users). So, the best way (if possible) : close your account, and explain them you are closing it due to lack of Linux Compatibility. Open an account at Axa, and explain them you are opening it thanks to their Linux Compatibility :=) cEd On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Steven Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry even vista is not supported by KBC :-) http://www.mouseover.be/2008/03/08/8-usability-errors-de-vernieuwde-kbc-online-banking/ Op 28 mei 2008 12:30 heeft Bram Biesbrouck [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: On Wednesday 28 May 2008 12:18:47 Steven Leeman wrote: 2008/5/28 Bram Biesbrouck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beste cliënt, KBC-Online for Business met beveiliging eBusiness Card is compatibel met PC (Windows) en in combinatie met Internet Explorer. Op de website www.kbc.be/welkom worden alle vereiste stappen die moeten uitgevoerd worden voor de installatie weergegeven. Apple wordt niet ondersteund en Linux wordt helaas ook niet ondersteund door KBC net zoals zijn tientallen UNIX-varianten. is this the infamous Isabel application? No, I guess not. Although it's probably linked to it, it's another more-secure way of logging into their website. I received an eBusiness Card (smartcard) that I need to plug into the USB-reader to log into the website. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Inscrivez-vous à un réseau social si ce n'est déjà fait : http://www.viadeo.com/invitation/cedric.janssens http://www.linkedin.com/in/cjanssens http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=781379348 -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- Check it out now: http://sandervdm.blogspot.com -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
On Wednesday 28 May 2008 12:18:47 Steven Leeman wrote: 2008/5/28 Bram Biesbrouck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beste cliënt, KBC-Online for Business met beveiliging eBusiness Card is compatibel met PC (Windows) en in combinatie met Internet Explorer. Op de website www.kbc.be/welkom worden alle vereiste stappen die moeten uitgevoerd worden voor de installatie weergegeven. Apple wordt niet ondersteund en Linux wordt helaas ook niet ondersteund door KBC net zoals zijn tientallen UNIX-varianten. is this the infamous Isabel application? No, I guess not. Although it's probably linked to it, it's another more-secure way of logging into their website. I received an eBusiness Card (smartcard) that I need to plug into the USB-reader to log into the website. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Cedric Janssens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the best way (if possible) : close your account, and explain them you are closing it due to lack of Linux Compatibility. Open an account at Axa, and explain them you are opening it thanks to their Linux Compatibility :=) I agree. If possible, close your account and move it somewhere else. Doesn't have to be AXA though. Dexia, for example, also supports linux/mac. regards Wouter -- http://wouter.horre.be/ -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
2008/5/28 Wouter Horré [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Cedric Janssens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the best way (if possible) : close your account, and explain them you are closing it due to lack of Linux Compatibility. Open an account at Axa, and explain them you are opening it thanks to their Linux Compatibility :=) I agree. If possible, close your account and move it somewhere else. Doesn't have to be AXA though. Dexia, for example, also supports linux/mac. Every bank is very concerned when they loose a client, as loosing one can mean loosing many for the same reason (let's imagine that you communcate about why your are quiting ... as you could do here). The commercial department is concerned most. So let them know gently that you have decided to quit unless the give you a good technical solution using *your* own OS of choice. Many banks would welcome you -- Nicolas Pettiaux April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - www.april.org Rejoignez maintenant près de 2 000 personnes, associations, entreprises et collectivités qui soutiennent notre action -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Hi, Argenta also doesn't require anything M$-specific. Plus they give you a Visa card for free. Kind regards, Rob. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/5/28 Wouter Horré [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Cedric Janssens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the best way (if possible) : close your account, and explain them you are closing it due to lack of Linux Compatibility. Open an account at Axa, and explain them you are opening it thanks to their Linux Compatibility :=) I agree. If possible, close your account and move it somewhere else. Doesn't have to be AXA though. Dexia, for example, also supports linux/mac. Every bank is very concerned when they loose a client, as loosing one can mean loosing many for the same reason (let's imagine that you communcate about why your are quiting ... as you could do here). The commercial department is concerned most. So let them know gently that you have decided to quit unless the give you a good technical solution using *your* own OS of choice. Many banks would welcome you -- Nicolas Pettiaux April - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » - www.april.org Rejoignez maintenant près de 2 000 personnes, associations, entreprises et collectivités qui soutiennent notre action -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
For private users (ie. non-business), I know that ING and Rabobank work with Linux and I think KeyTrade too (I should test it pretty soon). PS: There is documentation about Belgian banking on the French, English and Dutch wikis but all incomplete. Note that since the beginning the IRC #ubuntu-be channel subject ask visitor to update these pages. On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Johan Beckers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Van Dyck schreef: Hi, Argenta also doesn't require anything M$-specific. Plus they give you a Visa card for free. Yes, Argenta is great for this, but if your a business owner, your quit limited. For example, no international bank transfers with the self-banking. Johan. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be -- mongolito404, king of the mongolian people -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Wouter Horré schreef: I agree. If possible, close your account and move it somewhere else. Doesn't have to be AXA though. Dexia, for example, also supports linux/mac. Hmm ... following this thread with more than normal interest. I'm about to move my accounts to a new bank before this summer, and guess what, looking for a 100% Linux compliant bank :) BTW: is there some sort of Business owners running 100% Ubuntu/Linux usergroup in Belgium? Johan. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Hey I did it lately for ING !!! :) 2008/5/28 mongolito404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For private users (ie. non-business), I know that ING and Rabobank work with Linux and I think KeyTrade too (I should test it pretty soon). PS: There is documentation about Belgian banking on the French, English and Dutch wikis but all incomplete. Note that since the beginning the IRC #ubuntu-be channel subject ask visitor to update these pages. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Dexia netbanking (old version, obsolete) and direct-net (new) worked with Linux from day 1. They also provide decent documentation to get you up and running on all different platforms (Linux, Windows, ...) - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Philippe Piquer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, mei 28, 2008 06:28 PM Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium' Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business Hey I did it lately for ING !!! :) 2008/5/28 mongolito404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For private users (ie. non-business), I know that ING and Rabobank work with Linux and I think KeyTrade too (I should test it pretty soon). PS: There is documentation about Belgian banking on the French, English and Dutch wikis but all incomplete. Note that since the beginning the IRC #ubuntu-be channel subject ask visitor to update these pages. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Hi, I can tell you it works with Fortis too. Well with the Digipass anyway. Which they still support but I don't know if new accounts get a digipass, C-ZAM reader or a card reader. But the card reader should be no problem either and that's considered the safest I thought. grtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dexia netbanking (old version, obsolete) and direct-net (new) worked with Linux from day 1. They also provide decent documentation to get you up and running on all different platforms (Linux, Windows, ...) - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Philippe Piquer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag, mei 28, 2008 06:28 PM Aan: 'Ubuntu Belgium' Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business Hey I did it lately for ING !!! :) 2008/5/28 mongolito404 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For private users (ie. non-business), I know that ING and Rabobank work with Linux and I think KeyTrade too (I should test it pretty soon). PS: There is documentation about Belgian banking on the French, English and Dutch wikis but all incomplete. Note that since the beginning the IRC #ubuntu-be channel subject ask visitor to update these pages. -- This e-mail message, including any attachments transmitted with it, is CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. This message is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you should not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use this information. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete it from your system. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed and it may be subject to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, for which I accept no liability. -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
- Andy Airey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you it works with Fortis too. Well with the Digipass anyway. As long as you stick with Fortis PC Banking all is well, yes. At some point as a business customer, you get into limitations with the consumer foferings, and they force you to use the Isabel platform, which still doesn't work thankx to the ActiveX way of working in v6. We should take on Isabel more to satisfy business users. Serge Serge van Ginderachter http://www.vanginderachter.be/ Kreeg u een odt bestand en kan u deze niet openen? Zie http://ginsys.be/odf -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
Re: [Ubuntu-be] KBC Business
Op woensdag 28-05-2008 om 15:27 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef mongolito404: For private users (ie. non-business), I know that [...] work with Linux and I think KeyTrade too (I should test it pretty soon). AFAIK Keytrade itself runs on (Gentoo) linux instead of expensive mainframes. They should know the advantages... ;-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be
