[Bug 93491] Re: Crash

2008-09-29 Thread Pär Lidén
Well, I don't know. For the first part, I didn't even know how to
reproduce it first when it happened. It crashed, and the crash-reporting
tool (was it's name Apport?) popped up and asked me to report the bug,
and so I did. Besides, I don't even use ogle anymore. So I think this
bug could be closed. Sorry if I have taken up your time unneccessarily.

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[Bug 184683] Re: [Gutsy] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

2008-09-07 Thread Pär Lidén
I have now booted a lot of times with Hardy, with HT enabled, and it
works like a charm. So the bug could be closed altogether now.

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[Bug 158461] Re: Eclipse documentation not installed

2008-08-24 Thread Pär Lidén
The problem with missing documentation still persists on the Hardy.

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[Bug 175286] Re: Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers

2008-06-23 Thread Pär Lidén
Yes, everyone here has convinced me that this proposal has more
drawbacks than advantages. However, Pluckduck, I'm quite convinced there
is a problem for people who are sometimes stupid/sleepy (like me). So no
matter how experienced you are, you are still able to make mistakes. And
not to talk about newbies, which Ubuntu are supposed to target also.

But that said, I think this bug can be closed now. Thanks everyone for
your thoughts about this.


** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: mozilla-firefox = firefox
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Pär Lidén (par-liden)

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 175286] Re: Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers

2008-06-23 Thread Pär Lidén
Now I changed the status to Invalid. Is this the right thing to do, or
is there something else that I'm supposed to do also?

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Re: [Bug 175286] Re: Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers

2008-06-05 Thread Pär Lidén
Hmm, it seems that you are right, at least with openoffice 2.4 when I just
tried.
Thanks for your thoughts about this.
Well, maybe these are heavy enough arguments to not implement this change in
behavior.

I still ponder over if there could be some other way to get some kind of
protection when a user saves changes to such a temporary file? This would
need to be a quite different way of doing it though, and I can't come up
with any good ideas for it myself (except for some very complicated
solutions). Do you have any ideas for this?


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[Bug 175286] Re: Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers

2008-05-29 Thread Pär Lidén
Well, changing this behavior won't prevent totally stupid users (like
me) from doing stupid things. But in the current form as the idea is, it
will definitely help to a certain degree. It is more like a quick hack
to provide some kind of hint to the user to not do a stupid thing in
some situations.

Can you see any drawbacks with the idea in it's current form? If there
are no significant drawbacks, I can't see any reason to not implement it
(except the time involved, and maybe compatibility problems with
existing applications relying on the old behavior).

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[Bug 12301] Re: monitor off at boot causes bad resolution

2008-05-01 Thread Pär Lidén
This bug is present for me now, using Hardy and a Nvidia Geforce 4 MX
card, Philips 201b4 monitor. I think it used to work in Gutsy, but don't
do after the upgrade. Booting up with the monitor turned off gives low
resolution (640x480), and it get's fixed if I restart X after turning
monitor on.

So the bug should probably be reopened.

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on boot when Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB-stick attached

2008-04-17 Thread Pär Lidén
Again a video clip for the kernel bugzilla

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on boot when Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB-stick attached

2008-04-16 Thread Pär Lidén
** Summary changed:

- Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached
+ Hang on boot when Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB-stick attached

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on boot when Sandisk Cruzer Micro USB-stick attached

2008-04-16 Thread Pär Lidén
** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: linux-image-2.6.15-27-686
  
  I have a problem with the kernel in ubuntu 6.06. When I have my USB-
  stick attached, it just hangs at boot. This is not a very severe
  problem, because it does boot correctly when the usb-stick is not
  attached, and it seems to be only on coldboots on which the system
  hangs, so if I restart the system with it attached, it uses to work, or
  if I push the reset button when it has hanged, it will also work.
  Pressing ctrl-alt-del wont work. At least this is what happened when I
  just tried to test the problem a bit today, maybe it has been so that it
  has hanged even on restarts sometimes, I don't really remember that.
  
  This is what it says before it hangs:Booting 'Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-27-686'
  root (hd0,4)
Filesystem typ ext2fs, partition type 0x83
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-686 root=/dev/sda5
[Linuz-bzimage, setup = 0x1c00, size=0x1170433]
  initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-27-686
[Linux-initrd @0x1f948000,0x6a78b3 bytes]
  savedefault
  boot
  Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel
  
  And then it just waits there forever.
+ 
+ [Edit: The info above is old info and mostly irrelevant, see below for
+ up-to-date info.]
+ 
  My system:
  ASUS P4C800 Motherboard, P4 2.8 GHz, 2x 512 mb Corsair memory
  Seagate ST3120023AS harddisk, SATA 120gb
  Nvidia GeForce 4Mx graphics card
  Logitech Cordless keyboard, attached to usb
  ps2 mouse
  Plextor cd-writer
  samsung dvd-reader
  
  I was before a bit used to dealing with the kernel stuff, to the degree
  that I used to compile my own kernels and things like that, so if you
  want me to test things like that, I probably knows how to do that.

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-13 Thread Pär Lidén
Yes, Zhang Rui suggested that I should check out that bug also (at
kernel bug 10406). I've been looking there, but I don't really
understand how to check out if mine is a duplicate of that. The
difference seems to be that for me just certain usb-devices cause the
hang, and at bug 6208 every device will cause a hang. A mouse, a
keyboard and a digicam I own seems to work fine. That seems to be the
main difference between me and those people at that bug. The usb-stick
which caused me originally to report this problem (above) is now dead,
so I can't test that one again unfortunately.

Do you have any suggestions on how to further investigate the inter-
connectedness of the that bug and mine? I know I haven't tried hard
enough myself to check that yet, so maybe I'm not qualified to ask that
question for now... ;-)

When I get the time I could do some more testing, like testing with the
Ubuntu 7.04 kernel and some other tests.

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-06 Thread Pär Lidén
I'm now reporting this bug upstream, but the kernels bugzilla doesn't
accept files larger than 1 meg, so I upload it here instead.

** Attachment added: Boot hang 2.6.25-rc8.avi
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13148876/Boot%20hang%202.6.25-rc8.avi

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: linux-source-2.6.15 = linux

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** Also affects: linux via
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   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-04 Thread Pär Lidén
Looks like I forgot to attach the video clip...

It ends with the message:

ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found

and then just halts. I'm not able to take ctrl-alt-del, I have to do a
hard reset.


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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-02 Thread Pär Lidén
Maybe the BIOS could be to blame, so I post this one also.

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** Changed in: linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-02 Thread Pär Lidén

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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-02 Thread Pär Lidén
I'm experiencing this bug again, both on Ubuntu 7.10, and on Hardy
Heron. I attach a little video snapshot which shows what happens in the
boot when the usb-stick is attached.

The results posted here are for Hardy Heron.

My original usb-stick got destroyed, so I don't know if the bug applies
to that one still. This is with a Sandisk Cruzer Micro 512mb.

uname, dmesg, and lspci are on a subsequent boot with the usb-stick
connected.

uname -a:
Linux loa-desktop 2.6.24-12-generic #1 SMP Wed Mar 12 23:01:54 UTC 2008 i686 
GNU/Linux


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[Bug 65071] Re: Hang on coldboot when USB-stick attached

2008-04-02 Thread Pär Lidén

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[Bug 174434] Re: [ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe

2008-03-23 Thread Pär Lidén
With the Beta1 live-cd, X works fine for me. So this bug seems to be solved for 
me! :-)
Sadly, there are still multiple other bugs left affecting my hardware... :-(

Cheers to the developers!

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Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2008-03-07 Thread Pär Lidén
I think the rationale for the won'f fix stamp is that the kernel team
deamed it unlikely tha this bug would get fixed in time for Hardy. Probably
they will try to fix it for later Ubuntu versions (hopefully the 8.10). So
the won't fix stamp should probably be read as: won't fix for Hardy, if
I've understood things correctly.

2008/3/5, Ric Flomag [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Robert:

 Yes I did try your procedure too, no luck.
 As for the Won't fix stamp, the log says that we should ask Henrik :)


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Re: [Bug 184683] Re: [Gutsy] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

2008-03-07 Thread Pär Lidén
Thanks for your post.

I have already Hardy installed on the computer, and has booted a few times
without problems. But it's a bit difficult to know if the bug is actually
gone or not as it just happens once in maybe 10 or 20 times, (seemingly
random, however just on cold-boots I think). I have saved all log files from
most of the failing boots, if there would be any use to attach some of them,
please tell me.

I will anyways try to boot some more times with Hardy, and see if the bug
still appears.

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Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2008-02-17 Thread Pär Lidén
From what I've seen on another (GNOME) bug, some of the info entered in the
LP bug was also forwarded to gnome bugzilla by the developer. But I don't
think this always happens though.

For those of you here who are really interested in getting the bug fixed, I
strongly recommend you should report it yourself upstream. You might look at
this link for more info on that:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild. From what I've seen, the
kernel developers are generally much more responsive about bug reports than
the ubuntu developers.

But you have to test with the upstream kernel versions for that, and follow
their guidelines for reporting bugs. This might be helpful:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/reporting-bugs.html. You also have
to enable some debugging in the compilation, I think there is an USB_DEBUG
option or similar. Probably this bug exists in many flavors, one is where
USB_SUSPEND is the cause, but there are many others.

Some of you have reported that it worked with a certain kernel version, but
then stopped working. If you can find out precisely at what upstream -git
version it broke, you have probably come a long way towards fixing the bug.
But it is a lot of work in testing out that of course, and trying many
different versions until you nail down the correct one.

Comments
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/79and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/177above
lists some of the upstream bugs about this, which might be helpful.

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Re: [Bug 184683] Re: [Gutsy] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

2008-02-17 Thread Pär Lidén
Ok, thanks for that information. Then I have no clue about how to debug this
problem. Hope someone else might see this and help out with the bug.

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Re: [Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2008-02-09 Thread Pär Lidén
@Elias: I don't mean to sound rude, but it feels for me that you have no
problem complaining about what others should and should not do, but then you
are yourself not ready to do much about it. Well, you might say that Ubuntu
is a proprietary project, because there is a corporation behind it, but all
code it produces are completely free and open-source. Many developers work
totatally for free on Ubuntu.

I suggest that instead of telling others what to do, you just go ahead and
do it yourself. I understand that you may not have the time for that, but
maybe you would then understand that other people (the paid developers) also
has a lot of other work to do, and maybe does not have time for your
favorite issue?

And regarding bug 3382: Yes, I agree with you, it sounds like a good idea,
great thinking from you Elias. But, please, I ask you, could you stop
posting about it here in this bug? I at least would be happy if you
wouldn't. You have already posted about it many times here,  you don't need
to post it again. I think the message has gone through clear to everyone
here.

Also, if you would to like to support the developers in some way to do a
better job, you would be much better of giving words of encouragement,
instead of words of complain. I am totally sure that you criticising them
won't give them any more energy (and definitely not any more time) to work
on development.

This is meant as a friendly advice, I hope you don't feel dismayed or
something.

I also want take the opportunity to thank the developers for all the hard
work they are doing, from which I can benefit completely for free.


2008/2/9, Elias Humbolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 @Ben Collins

 Ben, I am happy that somebody from Ubuntu is finally reacting to this
 Bug report. If not for fixing it than at least with an official
 statement what devs are actually thinking about the issue. And why
 obvious simple measures are not taken.

 Your argumentations surely is not bare any logic. My first reaction
 however was, well if suspend/resume is ought to be broken after
 removing/disabling the autosuspend feature, why can I still successfully
 suspend/resume on my laptop after disabling it. So now I have both, USB
 2.0 and suspend/resume. You understand that some doubts did arise in me
 about your claim removal of autosuspend might screw up suspend/resume
 for many people.

 However, these doubts do not have many grounds just yet, except for my
 single perception on one type of system. Therefore I presume what you
 are claiming are well tested facts.

 I am wondering however, if it would not be possible to enable
 autosuspend for the one crowd of chipsets while disabling it for the
 other. Sure, not an easy task to identify, which systems to enable and
 which not.

 Extracting all this information from bug reports surly is hell. And yet,
 if you have talked everybody into submitting their data again, you
 still will have to ask all of them to test whether or not disabling
 autosuspend breaks suspend/resume for them. This is a challenge for
 itslef. Undoable if you ask me, at least with the tools available.

 I therefore understand, why literally nothing is done about it!

 Undoable, well not if Launchpad had the proper toolset for this! I
 actually proposed a feature which would enable you to handle a task like
 that: The attach HW profiles to launchpad accounts I proposed a while
 ago. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/3382

 I just had a couple of more ideas on how else this feature could be used
 with a little more code.

 Oh man, somebody needs to implement that! Have a look. I am happy to
 share the idea, but I wont code for free on a proprietary project. And
 well, the idea was mine, so don't start crying if RedHat or anybody else
 is copying it. This idea is a free for all still!

 Imagine how much better bug tracking would work if you could start a
 simple poll:
 Does disabling autosuspend fix your USB2.0 problem ? yes/no
 Does disabling autosuspend break your suspend/hibernate/resume? yes/no

 If more than one HW profile is registered with your launchpad account
 the following question shows up:
 Select the systems these answers apply to ? Choose form list.

 And at the end you would know not just for how may people disabling
 autosuspend works ... but also what chipsets are affected!

 Wouldn't that be coding hours wisely spent? Whether you use it for the
 ehci_hcd bug or any other HW related bug in the future? I am sure kernel
 devs upstream would be happy to whitelist/blacklist autosuspend
 accordingly if they were provided a detailed list for whom, wouldn't
 they?

 I'd be delighted if you would share your thoughts on the feature I
 proposed for launchpad as well as on whether or not it could be a viable
 solution to whitelist/blacklist autosuspend in kernel if the proper
 information would be available for whom.




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  Elias, you are over simplifying this issue. If we disable 

Re: [Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen flashes blank four times when X loading, X not coming up, ATI X1250

2008-02-03 Thread Pär Lidén
I have now tested with alpha4, it seems to behave in exactly the same way,
the screen flashes blank fout times when it is trying to load X when
starting from the live-cd. The alternate-installer still hangs during the
installation-process (at a later stage than alpha3, but nevertheless hangs
completely).

So, sorry, no progress here. And (FYI), I'm traveling abroad now for six
weeks, and I'm not able to take this computer with me, so unfortunately I
will not be able to do any testing before mid/end of march something. But I
will do some testing then when I comes back.

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen flashes blank four times when X loading, X not coming up, ATI X1250

2008-01-28 Thread Pär Lidén
Hello again, I noticed that I forgot to mention that it behaves the same
way if I start up in failsafe graphics mode, no difference there. And
the live-cd also sometimes hangs on boot-up even if the wireless is
disabled. I also tried using the alternate-installer, but it hangs
somewhere even before it comes to start X.  So it looks like this
machine has multiple problems with Linux.

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Re: [Bug 98955] Re: logd not running

2008-01-28 Thread Pär Lidén
Ok, I see. Well, then this behavior is probably preferred.

Thankyou

2008/1/27, Sergei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Yes, I sure understand that you don't want to be a maintainer for it,
 that
  would probably be quite a lot of work. For me the [ok] comes on it's own
  separate:
  Sun Jan 27 21:52:32 2008:  * Starting system message bus dbus
  Sun Jan 27 21:52:32 2008: [ OK ]
 
  Is this intentional? Otherwise this seems much nicer than before.

 Well, bootlogd *has* a maintainer, it's Debian sysvinit team. Maybe I'll
 send the fixes
 there some day.

 The OK placement is yes, sort of intentional. They use a lot of terminal
 trickery to make
 output look better, and logging it correctly would require many changes to
 the code.
 I had to choose from a couple of simple rules, and the other choices led
 to worse results.
 After all, this OK is a separate message and its timing may be useful.

 You can make it appear on the same line by changing the source as follows.
 Go to bootlog.c line 361, there will be a part of switch like this:

 case '\n':
 case '\r:
...

 Change it to:

 case '\r':
 break;
 case '\n':
...

 (that is, interchange the two cases and insert break; between them).
 But then you will lose, among other things, the summary of a long fsck run
 (it will be truncated as a part of one extra long line).

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Re: [Bug 98955] Re: logd not running

2008-01-27 Thread Pär Lidén
Yes, I sure understand that you don't want to be a maintainer for it, that
would probably be quite a lot of work. For me the [ok] comes on it's own
separate:
Sun Jan 27 21:52:32 2008:  * Starting system message bus dbus
Sun Jan 27 21:52:32 2008: [ OK ]

Is this intentional? Otherwise this seems much nicer than before.

Keep up the good work!

2008/1/26, Sergei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am not willing to maintain it seriously, it is too system-dependent.
 Nevertheless, here is a new version. Changes are:

 - Improved logfile formatting.
 - The logfile is renamed to /var/log/bootmsg, to avoid conflict with logd
 in the future.

 Again, please do not install it blindly. You cannot be sure that I am
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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen flashes blank four times when X loading, X not coming up, ATI X1250

2008-01-25 Thread Pär Lidén
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- [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250
+ [Hardy] screen flashes blank four times when X loading, X not coming up, ATI 
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[Bug 98955] Re: logd not running

2008-01-25 Thread Pär Lidén
Segei: I think you forgot to attach the actual file. ;-)

Your description of it seems very nice though, I hope they could include
a package like this in the universe. I think many users would appreciate
that possibility. Maybe even a package from you, if you would have the
time to be maintaining it?

Cheers
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Re: [Bug 98955] Re: logd not running

2008-01-25 Thread Pär Lidén
Ok, I see, then you did not forget it after all. :-)

I installed your version, it works nicely for me, and the /var/log/boot file
looks nicer than it did with my old one. Thankyou for this work. Maybe you
could submit this package to getdeb.net for inclusion in their archive,
along with some warning that it may not work on all system? Just a thought
though.

2008/1/25, Sergei Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I did attach it! Maybe launchpad does not allow this via email.
 Now I am trying to do this using the web interface.


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[Bug 98955] Re: logd not running

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
I think there is a good reason that they are not using bootlogd by
default. I think I read somewhere that bootlogd is quite buggy on some
systems, and it is hard to make it work correctly the way it is
designed. So the proper fix in the long run would be to redesign it
completely, as Scott is intending to do with logd in the future. I don't
remember where I read this however... Probably tekknokrat ran into one
of those problems.

You may try the original 2.86 version, it may work better?

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
Hello, I've done some further testing, and I've actually found that the
probably the wireless driver is to blame for the lockups. 64-bit or
32-bit does not seem to make any difference. If I disable the wireless
functionality by pressing that button on the computer, it won't lock up.
X is still acting quite weirdly though. It generates two log files, but
the only difference seems to be the time:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ diff Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old 
23c23
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jan 24 21:52:27 2008
---
 (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jan 24 21:52:20 2008

Note: I'm using the 64-bit version from now on.


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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
I booted again, and this time Xorg.0.log.old was exactly the same as the
one  posted above (except for the time), however Xorg.0.log was
different.

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
I also made a little video shot of this boot. Notice how the screen
blanks four times. The computer is perfectly usable in terminal mode
(net access via cable) and works without any lockups.

btw:
$ which xresprobe
/usr/sbin/xresprobe

so it's still there. However, the xresprobe bug seems quite different,
as it happened in a later stage of the install, and not at the bootup of
the live cd.

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
lspci-nn |grep VGA
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon 
X1200 Series] [1002:791f]

and attaching full output of lspci -vvnn

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-24 Thread Pär Lidén
I tried installing xorg-driver-fglrx, but that didn't seem to make any
difference.

I also did a few times
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
What is strange, it that alternately it yields a [OK] to stopping, but [fail] 
on starting, and nothing more. And alternately [ok] on both, and same error as 
described above (screen blanking four times, and then nothing more). This is 
the same regardless if fglrx is installed or not.

Hope this could be of some help in investigating the problem. Please tell me if 
there is any additional testing you think I should do.
I'd also like to test installing with alternate installer. To do this, I need 
to shrink my existing partition where windows is installed. The most difficult 
part of this is however getting my wifes permission, which could probably be 
quite tricky... So it could probably take some time... ;-)
If I get the time I might try to debug and report that problem with the 
wireless also.

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[Bug 184692] Re: [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-22 Thread Pär Lidén
Thanks for your fast reply, I will try out those solutions you suggested
as soon as I get the time.

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[Bug 184683] [Feisty] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

2008-01-20 Thread Pär Lidén
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: upstart

I'm having a problem with occasional bootup hangs. They started after I
upgraded to Gutsy. I never experienced this problem with Ubuntu 7.04.
Most of the times there is no problem, but maybe once out of 10 or 20
bootups the booting process stops. Since I disabled HT, I've never seen
this happen anymore.

What happens is this: Almost all of the booting process works fine, but
after it has come to Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local), not
much more happens. X is not coming up.

The first strange thing is that it says Reloading OpenBSD Secure Shell 
server's configuration sshd. I have no idea why it does this. According to 
/var/log/boot, it does this every time I boot though. After that (a few of the 
times it has hung), it also started reloading cupsd (after a minute or so), and 
then the system log daemon. Some other times it just hung after Reloading 
openbsd..., and nothing more happend.
After that nothing more seems to happen with the booting. I am able to access 
other VTs and Internet acess works, so the machine is not really hung, it is 
just the booting process which won't get any further.

The reason why I guess the problem lies within Upstart is because the
reloading of the daemons, but this is mostly a guess on my part.

I have a suspicion that it is in some way related to the networking.
That could at least explain why it just happens at some boots, and not
at others. Maybe my router is a bit flaky, and sometimes uses longer
time (which could in turn trigger some bug in Ubuntu). But this is just
a another guesss.

The computer itself is a 4 year old Pentium 4 2.8 ghz, 1 gig ram, with a
ASUS P4C800 mobo, connected to the router through the built-in ethernet
port, ps2 mouse and usb keyboard, nvidia graphics card.

This bug might be related to #58752.

I have been digging through the logs (/var/log) to try and see if there
is something particular happening with the boots when the booting
freezes. I haven't found something which is only in the logs those times
the boot process stops. However, I've found some things which seems a
bit wrong, but these errors are in the logs even on those boots which
works. But maybe they are related despite that. Below are excerpts from
the log files, with just the lines reporting errors I could find listed
(# denotes that the line is my comment). Maybe there are other errors I
missed. If you wish, you might check these error messages out.

in kern.log:
Failure registering capabilities with primary security module.
intel_rng: FWH not detected

in daemon.log:
#Networkmanager warns several times about dhcdbd not running, lines such as
NetworkManager: WARN nm_dhcp_manager_get_state_for_device(): dhcdbd not 
running!
#(However, eventually DHCP and the network connection will work)
avahi-autoipd(eth1)[5887]: fopen() failed: Permission denied
# (The network connection actually used is eth0)
#many errors about ntpd
NetworkManager: WARN nm_spawn_process(): nm_spawn_process('/usr/sbin/nscd -i 
hosts'): could not spawn process. (Failed to execute child process 
/usr/sbin/nscd (No such file or directory))

in boot:
/etc/rcS.d/S40ifrename: 19: /sbin/ifrename: not found

When comparing boot and daemon.log, I can see that dhclient gets a
DHCPACK a couple of seconds after the dhcbd is started, 8-12 secs for
those boots I investigated.

Is there someone here who has got any suggestion of what to do?
Specifically if you has any ideas of how to debug this problem, and what
sorts of things I should look for (in the logs and elsewhere). I really
don't know how to proceed investigating this problem. This must be some
kind of bug in Ubuntu, but I don't know what causes the bug.

Notes:

- in order to get /var/log/boot to work, I had to manually compile and
install bootlogd. I did this in order to be able to debug these problems
better. The problems existed before this, so this should not affect the
booting process in any negative way.

- This is a desktop computer with a wired net connection, so those
things about Networkmanager probably has nothing do to with this
problem.

- I was also watching top, and noticed almost no activity, except for
updatedb at around 3% cpu utilisation one of the times this happened.
Otherwise nothing.

Thankyou
Pär

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[Bug 184692] [Hardy] screen turns blank when X loading, ATI X1250

2008-01-20 Thread Pär Lidén
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: xserver-xorg

I have an ATI Raderon X1250 card, using a hp 6715s notebook with an amd
sempron 3600+ processor (64-bit capabale) and 1gig ram.  Using the
alpha2 live cd, I got exactly the same error message as those in bug
#174434. I tried to copy over all the relevant log files via ssh to post
them there. But before I had the time to do that, the screen just turned
black, and the computer froze completely. This happened several times,
every time within a few minutes. So, every time, before I had the time
to scp the files over, the computer froze.

With the alpha3 live-cd, things has gotten worse:
- With usplash enabled it get's quite far in the booting process, and then 
suddenly just turns blank, and freezes completely, at about the time that I 
suppose that X should begin loading.
- If I disable usplash it will come past starting gdm, then switch between 
blank screen and the bootup-text screen a few times, and after that nothing 
happens. I'm still able to use the computer in terminal-mode, but it does not 
even put out an error message that configuring X failed, like it did with 
alpha2.

Maybe my problem with the freezing is due to something else than X, i
don't know, but it seems quite likely as it freezes as the screen turns
blank, and about the same time when X was supposed to start.

Note: This notebook did not work with Gutsy either. I'm using the 32-bit
version of ubuntu. Testing results from the laptop team about Feisty and
Gutsy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HPCompaq6715s.

** Affects: xorg (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 136529] Re: Can't log in after upgrading

2008-01-20 Thread Pär Lidén
There seems to be different problems reported at the same bug number
here. One problem is caused by gnome-keyring. Killing gnome-keyring
makes the boot proceed. The latest updates seem to solve the problem
mostly for me, but I have experienced still at least one time where I
had to kill gnome-keyring. This problem is related to bug #175682, and
gnome bug #502603 (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502603),
and affects only users of gdm.

Then there seems to be some people where the bug is fixed by changing
/tmp permissions, others change keyboard layouts, switch video drivers,
and so on. Shouldn't those be separated, and each put in it's own bug,
as it quite clearly must be completely different underlying problems?
Just that the symptom is the same, log in hangs.

Just a thought, but I'm not the one in charge here though. ;-)

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[Bug 184683] Re: [Gutsy] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

2008-01-20 Thread Pär Lidén
** Summary changed:

- [Feisty] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled
+ [Gutsy] Occasional hangs at boot when HyperThreading enabled

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[Bug 174434] Re: [ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe

2008-01-16 Thread Pär Lidén
Well, they were exactly the same for alpha2, so I would not say they are
completely different. However, I will file this as a new bug whenever I
get the time. Thanks for your advice.

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[Bug 174434] Re: [ATI X1300] Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe

2008-01-15 Thread Pär Lidén
I have an ATI X1250 card, using a hp 6715s notebook with an amd sempron
3600+ processor and 1gig ram. Using alpha2, I got exactly the same error
message as the others here. I tried to copy over all the relevant log
files via ssh to post them here. But before I had the time to do that,
the screen just turned black, and the computer froze completely. This
happened several times, every time within a few minutes. So, every time,
before I had the time to scp the files over, the computer froze.

With alpha3, if I disable usplash this will happen:
It will come past starting gdm, then switch between blank screen and the 
bootup-text screen a few times, and after that nothing happens. I'm still able 
to use the computer in terminal-mode, but it does not even put out an error 
message that configuring X failed.
With usplash enabled it get's quite far in the booting process, and then 
suddenly just turns blank, and freezes completely.

So alpha3 works worse for me. Maybe my problem with the freezing is due
to something else than X, i don't know, but it seems quite likely as it
freezes as the screen turns blank, and about the same time when X was
supposed to start. It's quite hard to investigate any further when it is
completely frozen. ;-)

Note: This notebook did not work with Gutsy either. I'm using the 32-bit
version of ubuntu.

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[Bug 136529] Re: Can't log in after upgrading

2008-01-09 Thread Pär Lidén
I want to add to jtholmes summary above about the problem: for me
logging in did not work even the first time on the first boot. I had to
try several times before I got a successful login. What did solve the
problem for me however, was putting the computer in uniprocessor mode,
ie. disabling Hyperthreading in my case. What seems to be common for me
and some other people here is that I have an Nvidia graphics card.

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[Bug 136529] Re: Can't log in after upgrading

2008-01-09 Thread Pär Lidén
Debian bug 455 694 seems to be solved as the source for the
setuid/setgid messages are fixed. However, those messages are still
there for me, even though login and the rest of the system works
perfectly. So in my case, this will probably not solve the problem.

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[Bug 179552] Re: [Hardy] gnome-session hangs on log in

2008-01-07 Thread Pär Lidén
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 136529 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/136529

Hello, Bernhard, this bug has just marked as a duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/136529 by the
developers, so I suppose you should file your information there. Also,
as a suggestion from another user, you might want to try turning of the
dual-core functionality of your computer. You might do so either in the
bios, or perhaps with acpi=off. Maybe booting in uniprocessor mode will
work-around the problem. This solved the problem for me (albeit mine is
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[Bug 136529] Re: Can't log in after upgrading

2008-01-02 Thread Pär Lidén
Hello, I've had this problem too. At first I reported it as
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/179552, but
found out that mine must be a duplicate of this bug. I found out that if
I disable Hyperthreading in the bios, it works perfectly. The GTK
setuid/setgid error messages are still there, so they are probably
totally unrelated to the bug itself.  As this problem seems to happen a
bit unpredictably, I believe that it is some sort of race condition in
some multithreaded part of gnome-session, or between different
processes. Another argument for that theory is that when I strace'd gdm
(like Adrian did), login worked almost all of the times (usually
something was broken when I was logged in though, such as the terminal
not starting).

I have no kind of authority around here, ;-)
but I would anyway suggest that everyone here tries disabling 
hyperthreading/smp, ie booting in uniprocessor mode.

I'd also like to repeat a finding I did and reported at that other bug, which 
I've not seen anyone here report:
By echo'ing messages in the startup files, I've confirmed that it runs through 
/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default.
Then it runs through /etc/gdm/Xsession, however, that script calls 
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common-start, which calls /usr/bin/gnome-session and 
after that, I can see no more output from the script. This indicates the 
problem lies within gnome-session.

My computer is a desktop, Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz, asus P4C800 motherboard
with Intel 875P chipset, 1 Gb ram, wired net connection. I'm using
Hardy, installed from alpha2, with latest updates applied. It works fine
under Gutsy on the same machine.

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[Bug 179552] Re: gnome-session hangs on log in

2008-01-01 Thread Pär Lidén
I've tried to find out which programs constitute to those pids in
.xsession-errors, but I've been unable to find out that. However. if the
pid of gnome-session is x, then the first of the pids in .xsession-
errors is a little bit higher than x, maybe x+[34], and the and the next
is maybe x + [8-10].

I wrote a small shell script that would do ps ax to a file every 0.01
second, and between two file outputs, it seems that those pid hase
managed to both start and disappear, so it happens very fast. What is
very odd, is that once when I did ran this script and logged in, it did
work! Then I immediately logged out and in, and since then it has not
worked again. :-(

ps ax reveals that gconfd-2 is running, with pid=x + ~50-60,  and gnome-
keyring-daemon, pid = x - [1-3]

Hope this could be of some relevance. What would probably be helpful is
to found out which programs constitute to those pids, but I am not
skilled enough in Linux to find out that by myself unfortunately. Could
anyone please tell me how to find out this?


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- gnome-session hangs on log in
+ [Hardy] gnome-session hangs on log in

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[Bug 179552] Re: [Hardy] gnome-session hangs on log in

2008-01-01 Thread Pär Lidén
Ok, I've investigated the problem a little further, and there seems to
be many more people that experienced the same sort of error message with
various versions of gnome, both on fedora, debian and ubuntu, for
example here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585635page=13,
here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-113359.html, and
here bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456824.

I want to add some things:

- /tmp looks fine
- Gutsy works fine on the same machine
- large amount of diskspace free on / so that is not the problem
- gnome failsafe works equally bad
- I tried waiting over 10 minutes, no difference
- screen just plainly brown, nothing else. but the mouse-pointer works though
- adding another user with adduser and logging in with that makes no difference
- deleting /etc/profile and ~/.* doesn't help
- i did sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session, and then I could login 
once. strange. but no success on subsequent logins though. repeating the 
re-install helped nothing, so maybe that was just a coincidence.
- I actually managed to log in once more, and checked .xsession-errors. The 
same error were there.

I did some strace'ing, and I found this: The two pids reported are 
gdmflexiserver.
What is very strange, is that it seems that every time I do an strace of gdm, I 
seem to be able to actually log in (but things usually don't work very well 
once I'm logged in though). A few times I got in there completely and things 
worked. Once I came in there, and firefox and terminal worked, but not logout. 
Once I just got an error about nautilus, and nothing more happened. 

I also found out that probably this is duplicate of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/136529. So sorry if I
caused unneccessary work for you by filing duplicate. Should I paste my
experiences there, or what should I do? Sorry that I could not put all
info in at the beginning, and spams you with many posts...

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[Bug 179552] Re: gnome-session hangs on log in

2007-12-31 Thread Pär Lidén

** Attachment added: The .xsession-errors file
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11104068/.xsession-errors

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[Bug 179552] gnome-session hangs on log in

2007-12-31 Thread Pär Lidén
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-session

Hello, I'm testing out Hardy Heron. The live cd works fine, but once
installed, I'm unable to log in with gnome.

After I type my username and password and press enter, I hear some disk
activity, but then the system stops completely. However, there is an
error message in .xsession-errors: (I think this is the most releveant
part, complete file attached)

(process:20800): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or 
setgid.
This is not a supported use of GTK+. You must create a helper
program instead.

By echo'ing messages in the startup files, I've found out that when
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common-start tries to execute /usr/bin/gnome-
session, it hangs. This suggests something is wrong with with /usr/bin
/gnome-session.

This is on a fresh install from alpha2, only with upgrades applied. I
tried installing KDE, and logging in there works fine. Please tell me
how I should debug this further, I 'm happy for any suggestions.

The computer is a Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz, asus P4C800 motherboard with Intel 875 
chipset, 1 Gb ram, wired net connection. I suppose more detailed hw info is not 
required here, but please tell me if I should provide that.
Regards
Pär

** Affects: gnome-session (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2007-12-28 Thread Pär Lidén
FYI: I've filed a wishlist bug about automatic fallback to usb 1.1 if
2.0 doesn't work. In that way you won't manually have to unload ehci-
hcd, so it could be some sort of workaround for your problem here (at
least for most of you) You can look at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/177430 if
you're interested.

It worked equally bad for me with Hardy alpha2, but as I said I think my
problem is bad internal cabling.

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[Bug 177430] USB 1.1 automatic fallback if 2.0 fails

2007-12-19 Thread Pär Lidén
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Binary package hint: linux-source

My idea is that if a USB device gets plugged in, and Linux isn't able to
initialize it properly at usb 2.0, it should try initializing it with
usb 1.1 instead.

I have a problem where some of my usb-ports (the front ports) work only
at usb 1.1 speeds. If I plug in lower speed devices, such as my
keyboard, it works perfectly from the front ports. But when i connect
higher speed devices, such as usb-sticks, or my digital camera, it won't
work. It just fails silently. However, if I remove the usb 2.0 support
from the kernel (unloading that module, ie sudo rmmod ehci-hcd), and
then insert the usb-stick after that, it works, but only at usb 1.1
speeds of course. I am using Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon.

So I think it would be quite nice if Ubuntu could do this:
When a usb 2.0 device  device gets connected on a 2.0 capable port (ie one that 
is connected to an ehci controller), it should of course first try to init it 
with usb 2.0 (ehci). If that doesn't work, try with usb 1.1 (uhci/ohci), and 
preferably put up some message to the user that the device is not working at 
full 2.0 speed. (This is what win xp does.) I think that a lot of users gets 
confused when their devices just silently fails at some ports of their 
computer. And if initializing it with uhci/ohci doesn't work either, then pop 
up some error message then also of course.

I don't know if this is hard to implement, I'm no kernel hacker. I
suppose that the fallback itself would be implemented purely in the
kernel (thats why I reported this against linux-source), but bringing
forth the message to the user would require probably  involving at least
udev and HAL also.

This is the error message I get when I plug in my usb-stick:

Dec 19 11:47:41 desktopen kernel: [ 5133.285580] usb 5-6: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Dec 19 11:47:41 desktopen kernel: [ 5133.397338] usb 5-6: device descriptor 
read/64, error -71
Dec 19 11:47:41 desktopen kernel: [ 5133.612779] usb 5-6: device descriptor 
read/64, error -71
Dec 19 11:47:41 desktopen kernel: [ 5133.828252] usb 5-6: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 8
Dec 19 11:47:42 desktopen kernel: [ 5133.939976] usb 5-6: device descriptor 
read/64, error -71
Dec 19 11:47:42 desktopen kernel: [ 5134.155446] usb 5-6: device descriptor 
read/64, error -71
Dec 19 11:47:42 desktopen kernel: [ 5134.371765] usb 5-6: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 9
Dec 19 11:47:42 desktopen kernel: [ 5134.777916] usb 5-6: device not accepting 
address 9, error -71
Dec 19 11:47:42 desktopen kernel: [ 5134.889652] usb 5-6: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 10
Dec 19 11:47:43 desktopen kernel: [ 5135.296644] usb 5-6: device not accepting 
address 10, error -71

I'm pretty sure the cause for me is that the internal cabling to front
ports is bad. The two front usb ports are connected via one cable to a
10-pin connector on the motherboard. The back ports, which connect
directly to he motherboard, work perfectly.

I've looked at bug #88746, which describes the same symptoms, and the
same solution (unloading ehci-hcd). However, in my case, I don't think
Linux or the motherboard is to blame, but just the cables, as it works
in winxp (but at 1.1 speeds). Maybe this bug would be rated as a feature
request then. But implementing this feature would certainly help those
people affected by bug #88746, and not computer-savvy enough to unload
ehci-hcd. This feature would then provide a workaround for them that at
least enables them to use their devices (albeit at low speeds).

Please tell me if you need some clarification, or something else. And
thanks for your work in putting together a highly usable operating
system.

** Affects: linux-meta (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2007-12-13 Thread Pär Lidén
Elias:
Maybe it's not because of the length of the cables, but then the quality of 
them, in my case (case as in situation, not box). I bought the parts in 2003, 
and probably the case model is older than that. Maybe usb 2.0 was too new then 
for them to test it properly. Maybe my problem is a bit different than the 
others here. In Winxp I'm able to use the devices, but just at 1.1 speeds. That 
is why i suspect the cabling and not the os in my case. And a similar feature 
as in winxp would be very nice in my case.

I've built the computer myself, and know exactly what's in there. The
front ports are connected with wires straight to the pins at the
motherboard, so that's not what I would call a hub. But it doesn't work
anyway. The ports which does work are the ports directly from the
motherboard (no wires), at the back fo the of the case. However, I'm not
sure exactly what defines a hub. I place one 10-pin connector to the
motherboard, but has two usb-ports at the front. Maybe there is a hub
then? So maybe my case would support your theory.

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[Bug 175286] Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers

2007-12-10 Thread Pär Lidén
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Binary package hint: mozilla-firefox

I think that Firefox should save files readonly to /tmp when a user
click on files that require apps external to Firefox.

The reason is this: if a user opens a file from within Firefox, and then
does some editing and tries to save the file, he will get an error
message if the file is saved readonly. And I think that would be
helpful.

Here is my story behind this problem (much abbreviated version):

I was sitting at gmail, and reading a mail with an attachment. I clicked
that attachment, to open it in openoffice. I made a lot of changes, and
after that I saved. Then I rebooted my computer, started openoffice and
tried to open the file (from the file-recently documents menu). And
BANG, error message file does not exist.

So, the problem was that I forgot that I had opened it from Firefox. I
should have taken Save as instead. And Firefox first saves the file to
/tmp, and then invokes Openoffice (or whatever program it is) to open
the file. And as I use shmfs for /tmp, everything of course got erased
from there.

My fix for this problem is that Firefox should save these files in read-
only mode to /tmp. Then when stupid users (like me) tries to save them,
they will get an error message.

To get a really helpful message, we would have to modify openoffice (and
every other application), and make the browser open them with some
special flag (telling the apps that it is a temporary file). Then the
apps could display some error message like Warning: you are saving this
file to temporary space. Probably you will not be able to open this file
in the future, and then all your changes will be lost. Save the file in
a different location instead, using File - Save as. But modifying all
other programs is certainly not feasible IMO.

So the user still has to do Save as in order to store the file safely.
My important point is that the user should in some way get a note that
he is doing something stupid when he tries to save that file.

Use cases:
Per is a knowledgeable computer user, but with a bad a memory. He would benefit 
from getting an error message when trying to save a file which he forgot where 
he opened it from.
Ralf is a computer newbie who sometimes edits and saves files he has opened 
from Firefox, and never understand why they disappear. He would probably 
benefit from getting an error message when trying do to so, as he then might 
ask someone more skilled who can help him.

This fix would probably be quite easy to implement, I think. And I
suppose that I'm not the only one which has done this kind of mistake,
it would probably be of benefit to a lot of people, especially newbies.
And I can't really see any big downsides with this behavior.

Please tell me if I should clarify something. You might also want to
look at this forum thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630532. This is where the idea
about this started.

** Affects: mozilla-firefox (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 88746] Re: ehci_hcd module causes I/O errors in USB 2.0 devices

2007-12-10 Thread Pär Lidén
I've had the same problem, but just on my front ports. And I'm pretty
sure it is because the wires are longer, and of lower quality, to the
front ports. The back ports are connected directly to mainboard, via a
riser. Usb 1.1 devices (such as mice and keyboards) work at the front
ports, but not usb 2.0 devices (such as camera or memory sticks). If I
unload usb-ehci it works.

So IMO, a solution to this could be some sort of fallback. If usb 2.0
doesn't work, try 1.1, and then notify the user. Win xp does this for my
front ports. I don't know if this is hard to implement, I'm no kernel
hacker. I was just about to post a feature request about this thing when
I found this bug.

I have a ASUS P4C800 motherboard, with intel 875 chipset, and an Antec
Sonata case (the original model). And I think the wires from the case
are to blame in this case.

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