[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-07-05 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
Well, at least Suma Byrappa is the person that has this bug assigned,
and Amarnath Chitumalla is listes as "may be notified" on this page. The
two should probably know the answer.

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Re: [Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-07-02 Thread J T
On 02/07/2019, Rüdiger Kupper  wrote:
> Is the hpcups driver actually being maintained by HP? Or is this a
> community driver?

I don't know (and I don't even know how to find out!) I also don't
know whether the following info has any relevance to your question
or not, but:
https://github.com/twaugh/hplip/blob/master/check-plugin.py
says:
# (c) Copyright 2011-2015 HP Development Company, L.P.
# Author: Suma Byrappa, Amarnath Chitumalla



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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-07-02 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
Is the hpcups driver actually being maintained by HP? Or is this a
community driver?

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Re: [Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-07-02 Thread J T
On 02/07/2019, Matt Whitlock <1036...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> While debugging an unrelated issue with printing to my HP LaserJet 1012,
> I switched from the "hpcups" driver to the "hpijs" driver, and I am
> **BLOWN AWAY** by the quality of its dithering. After seeing the
> difference, I am absolutely appalled at how poorly the "hpcups" driver
> dithers grayscales. I had no idea that my cheap little laser printer
> could produce such great looking graphics until I discovered the "hpijs"
> driver. The "hpcups" driver is garbage by comparison.

I totally agree. I love the enforced "upgrade" to something which is
completely unusable. Clearly the people at HP are not using HP
printers, or this would have been fixed (six) years ago.

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-07-01 Thread Matt Whitlock
While debugging an unrelated issue with printing to my HP LaserJet 1012,
I switched from the "hpcups" driver to the "hpijs" driver, and I am
**BLOWN AWAY** by the quality of its dithering. After seeing the
difference, I am absolutely appalled at how poorly the "hpcups" driver
dithers grayscales. I had no idea that my cheap little laser printer
could produce such great looking graphics until I discovered the "hpijs"
driver. The "hpcups" driver is garbage by comparison.

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-23 Thread J T
# Hello J T,

Hi Rüdiger,

# I just resigned and kept using the HPIJS driver, which produces much better 
# (in terms of visually accurate) output.

Exactly the same situation here.

# However, Till Kamppeter says that Ubuntu is actively phasing out the HPIJS 
# driver. This means that the HPCUPS driver needs to be improved/fixed.

I have the same opinion too. It is precisely *because* I read that hpijs 
was being "deprecated" that made me write in and post a comment to your bug 
report. (The hpijs driver produces good prints with my HP1100 - the hpcups 
driver, on the other hand, produces images that are completely unacceptable).

I have spent an hour reading random HPLIP bug reports and their "resolutions" 
and as a result, I unfortunately do not hold out much hope that this bug will 
ever be resolved. While I would love to see the hpcups driver "fixed", I'll 
continue to use the hpijs driver in the meantime, and if nothing changes 
before the hpijs driver is "removed", I'll have to go and buy a non-HP 
printer.

Fingers crossed...

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-20 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
For the record: Upstream bug is at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1036236. But projects are linked.

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-20 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
Hello J T,
thanks for reporting that this is still a problem. I had originally filed this 
report in 2012, but since it never moved forward I just resigned and kept using 
the HPIJS driver, which produces much better (in terms of visually accurate) 
output. However, Till Kamppeter says that Ubuntu is actively phasing out the 
HPIJS driver. This means that the HPCUPS driver needs to be improved/fixed.

This bug is (upstream) assigned to Suma Byrappa, so he/she should be the
person to contact.

@Suma Byrappa:
Can you confirm that hpcups uses different halftoning algorithms (amplitude vs. 
frequency modulation). Why is this? Why does it mainly concern greyscale 
prints, not color? How about adding an option of selecting the algorithm in the 
officially maintained driver (which is hpcups, as I understand)?

Thanks for your support!

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-20 Thread Till Kamppeter
J T, you are posting your auto-generated bug data here but do not post a
comment telling what is exactly your observation.

Note that in HPLIP upstream HPIJS is still contained but not further
developed. We also do not explicitly support it any more in Ubuntu, we
encourage users to switch to hpcups and do even automatic migration.

If you observe any output quality advantage in HPIJS, please report a
new bug to HPLIP upstream (https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/), so that
they can compare and improve the hpcups driver.

Nothing of Ubuntu and its packaging is involved here. So I am closing
this bug.

** Changed in: hplip (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-20 Thread J T
Hello gf.

I am not Rüdiger, the original submitter of this bug, but I am affected
by it. Since Rüdiger has not posted to this bug report in over 7 years,
I am posting to it to let you know that:

1) It *is* still a problem,
2) I *am* still interested in finding a solution to this bug,
and
3) I would like you to *not* close the ticket.

Is there a better place for me to report this bug? (HP's FAQ at
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/faqs suggests
reporting it here, but this bug doesn't seem to have had any work done
on it since Suma Byrappa (suma-byrappa) became an assignee in December
2013).

Thanks.

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2019-06-20 Thread J T
ProblemType: Bug
ApportVersion: 2.20.10-0ubuntu27
Architecture: amd64
CupsErrorLog:
 W [20/Jun/2019:09:16:39 +0100] CreateProfile failed: 
org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id 
\'serverLaser.hpijs-Gray..\' already exists
 W [20/Jun/2019:09:16:39 +0100] CreateProfile failed: 
org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id 
\'serverLaser.hpijs-RGB..\' already exists
 W [20/Jun/2019:09:17:31 +0100] CreateProfile failed: 
org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id 
\'serverLaser.hpcups-Gray..\' already exists
 W [20/Jun/2019:09:17:31 +0100] CreateProfile failed: 
org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:profile id 
\'serverLaser.hpcups-RGB..\' already exists
CurrentDesktop: ubuntu:GNOME
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 19.04
Lpstat:
 device for serverLaser.hpcups: parallel:/dev/usb/lp0
 device for serverLaser.hpijs: parallel:/dev/usb/lp0
MachineType: Hewlett-Packard HP EliteBook 8560p
Package: hplip 3.19.1+dfsg0-1
PackageArchitecture: amd64
Papersize: letter
PpdFiles:
 Error: command ['fgrep', '-H', '*NickName', 
'/etc/cups/ppd/serverLaser.hpcups.ppd', '/etc/cups/ppd/serverLaser.hpijs.ppd'] 
failed with exit code 2: grep: /etc/cups/ppd/serverLaser.hpcups.ppd: Permission 
denied
 grep: /etc/cups/ppd/serverLaser.hpijs.ppd: Permission denied
ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-17-generic 
root=UUID=e119eace-ded7-4a54-b62d-d08677374c7c ro splash quiet vt.handoff=1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.0.0-17.18-generic 5.0.8
Tags:  disco
Uname: Linux 5.0.0-17-generic x86_64
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
UserGroups: adm cdrom dip lpadmin plugdev sambashare sudo
_MarkForUpload: True
dmi.bios.date: 02/13/2018
dmi.bios.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
dmi.bios.version: 68SCF Ver. F.67
dmi.board.name: 1618
dmi.board.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
dmi.board.version: KBC Version 97.4E
dmi.chassis.type: 10
dmi.chassis.vendor: Hewlett-Packard
dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnHewlett-Packard:bvr68SCFVer.F.67:bd02/13/2018:svnHewlett-Packard:pnHPEliteBook8560p:pvrA0001D02:rvnHewlett-Packard:rn1618:rvrKBCVersion97.4E:cvnHewlett-Packard:ct10:cvr:
dmi.product.family: 103C_5336AN
dmi.product.name: HP EliteBook 8560p
dmi.product.sku: WX787AV
dmi.product.version: A0001D02
dmi.sys.vendor: Hewlett-Packard


** Tags added: apport-collected disco

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2018-10-12 Thread gf
Hello Rudiger,
Thank you for submitting this bug and reporting a problem with the hplip 
package.  You made this bug report in 2012 and Ubuntu and hplip have been 
updated since then. 

Could you confirm that this is no longer a problem and that we can close the 
ticket? 
If it is still a problem, are you still interested in finding a solution to 
this bug? 
If you are, could you let us know and, in the current version, could you run 
the following (only once):
apport-collect 1036236
and upload the updated logs and and any other logs that are relevant for this 
particular issue. 

Thank you again for helping make Ubuntu better. 
G
[Ubuntu Bug Squad volunteer triager]

** Changed in: hplip (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2013-12-02 Thread Suma Byrappa
** Changed in: hplip
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Suma Byrappa (suma-byrappa)

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-09-25 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: hplip (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-09-25 Thread Pritschet, Andreas
** Changed in: hplip
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-09-25 Thread Pritschet, Andreas
I'd like to add that printing an image (colored, but mostly black) is fine when 
using the normal mode, but the contrast on the paper is very poor when 
printing in the normal grayscale mode. Black lines are printed as very light 
gray lines. 
I have encountered this on different HP (color) laserjet printers.

The problem affects Ubuntu 12.04 (64bit) and Debian squeeze (64bit).

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-09-25 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
** Description changed:

  HPLIP provides two drivers for the Laserjet 1515n: hpcups and hpijs:
  - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-hpijs-pcl3.ppd
  - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-pcl3.ppd
  
  The new hpcups shall replace the old hpijs, however, it produces very
  different rasterization results, resulting in a radically different
  visual impression. Differences are especially prominent for greyscale
  prints.
  
  Hpcups produces amplitude modulation halftones (dots of different
  sizes at fixed locations). When resolution is set to Normal, the size
  of these dots is so large that contours cannot be reproduced with
  reasonable detail. Heavy aliasing  can be easily seen in the circle
  contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page. Printing photographs in
  greyscale mode yields badly rasterized images like those known from low-
  quality newspaper prints (dot pattern is so prominent it dominates image
  contours). Artifacts are reduced, but still visible at resolution
  Best.
  
  In contrast, hpijs produces frequency modulation halftones with
  stochastic dithering (small-sized dots placed at varying densities). At
  resolution Normal, it produces evenly colored areas with reasonably
  sharp edges. Circle contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page appear
  continuous. Photographs are reproduced at a a much higher fidelity as
  with the hpcups driver.
  
  Questions:
  1. Why do the two drivers use different rasterization?
  2. Why is the result of rasterization so bad in the hpcups driver, set at 
resolution Normal, Greyscale?
  
  Note:
- Both drivers produce acceptable color prints with much viewer artifacts 
visible, even at resolution Normal.
+ Both drivers produce acceptable color prints with much fewer artifacts 
visible, even at resolution Normal.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: hplip 3.12.2-1ubuntu3.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
  Architecture: i386
  CurrentDmesg: [   63.368304] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1700) 
terminated with status 1
  Date: Mon Aug 13 16:38:16 2012
  Lpstat: device for Farblaser: hp:/net/HP_Color_LaserJet_CP1515n?zc=NPIE56824
  MachineType: exone D156200
  Papersize: letter
  PpdFiles: Farblaser: HP Color LaserJet cp1515n pcl3, hpcups 3.12.2
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic 
root=/dev/mapper/lvmvg-Root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  SourcePackage: hplip
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-04-26 (108 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 04/23/2004
  dmi.bios.vendor: FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
  dmi.bios.version: 4.06  Rev. 1.09.1562
  dmi.board.name: D1562
  dmi.board.vendor: FUJITSU SIEMENS
  dmi.board.version: S26361-D1562
  dmi.chassis.type: 6
  dmi.chassis.vendor: exone
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnFUJITSUSIEMENS//PhoenixTechnologiesLtd.:bvr4.06Rev.1.09.1562:bd04/23/2004:svnexone:pnD156200:pvr:rvnFUJITSUSIEMENS:rnD1562:rvrS26361-D1562:cvnexone:ct6:cvr:
  dmi.product.name: D156200
  dmi.sys.vendor: exone

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[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-08-13 Thread Rüdiger Kupper
** Description changed:

  HPLIP provides two drivers for the Laserjet 1515n: hpcups and hpijs:
- - hp-color_laserjt_cp1515n-hpijs-pcl3.ppd
- - hp-color_laserjt_cp1515n-pcl3.ppd
+ - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-hpijs-pcl3.ppd
+ - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-pcl3.ppd
  
  The new hpcups shall replace the old hpijs, however, it produces very
  different rasterization results, resulting in a radically different
  visual impression. Differences are especially prominent for greyscale
  prints.
  
  Hpcups produces amplitude modulation halftones (dots of different
  sizes at fixed locations). When resolution is set to Normal, the size
  of these dots is so large that contours cannot be reproduced with
  reasonable detail. Heavy aliasing  can be easily seen in the circle
  contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page. Printing photographs in
  greyscale mode yields badly rasterized images like those known from low-
  quality newspaper prints (dot pattern is so prominent it dominates image
  contours). Artifacts are reduced, bit still visible at resolution
  Best.
  
  In contrast, hpijs produces frequency modulation halftones with
  stochastic dithering (small-sized dots placed at varying densities). At
  resolution Normal, it produces evenly colored areas with reasonably
  sharp edges. Circle contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page appear
  continuous. Photographs are reproduced at a a much higher fidelity as
  with the hpcups driver.
  
  Questions:
  1. Why do the two drivers use different rasterization?
  2. Why the result of rasterization so bad in the hpcups driver, set at 
resolution Normal, Greyscale?
  
  Note:
  Both drivers produce acceptable color prints with much viewer artifacts 
visible, even at resolution Normal.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: hplip 3.12.2-1ubuntu3.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
  Architecture: i386
  CurrentDmesg: [   63.368304] init: plymouth-stop pre-start process (1700) 
terminated with status 1
  Date: Mon Aug 13 16:38:16 2012
  Lpstat: device for Farblaser: hp:/net/HP_Color_LaserJet_CP1515n?zc=NPIE56824
  MachineType: exone D156200
  Papersize: letter
  PpdFiles: Farblaser: HP Color LaserJet cp1515n pcl3, hpcups 3.12.2
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-29-generic 
root=/dev/mapper/lvmvg-Root ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  SourcePackage: hplip
  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-04-26 (108 days ago)
  dmi.bios.date: 04/23/2004
  dmi.bios.vendor: FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
  dmi.bios.version: 4.06  Rev. 1.09.1562
  dmi.board.name: D1562
  dmi.board.vendor: FUJITSU SIEMENS
  dmi.board.version: S26361-D1562
  dmi.chassis.type: 6
  dmi.chassis.vendor: exone
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnFUJITSUSIEMENS//PhoenixTechnologiesLtd.:bvr4.06Rev.1.09.1562:bd04/23/2004:svnexone:pnD156200:pvr:rvnFUJITSUSIEMENS:rnD1562:rvrS26361-D1562:cvnexone:ct6:cvr:
  dmi.product.name: D156200
  dmi.sys.vendor: exone

** Description changed:

  HPLIP provides two drivers for the Laserjet 1515n: hpcups and hpijs:
  - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-hpijs-pcl3.ppd
  - hp-color_laserjet_cp1515n-pcl3.ppd
  
  The new hpcups shall replace the old hpijs, however, it produces very
  different rasterization results, resulting in a radically different
  visual impression. Differences are especially prominent for greyscale
  prints.
  
  Hpcups produces amplitude modulation halftones (dots of different
  sizes at fixed locations). When resolution is set to Normal, the size
  of these dots is so large that contours cannot be reproduced with
  reasonable detail. Heavy aliasing  can be easily seen in the circle
  contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page. Printing photographs in
  greyscale mode yields badly rasterized images like those known from low-
  quality newspaper prints (dot pattern is so prominent it dominates image
- contours). Artifacts are reduced, bit still visible at resolution
+ contours). Artifacts are reduced, but still visible at resolution
  Best.
  
  In contrast, hpijs produces frequency modulation halftones with
  stochastic dithering (small-sized dots placed at varying densities). At
  resolution Normal, it produces evenly colored areas with reasonably
  sharp edges. Circle contours on the Ubuntu Printer test page appear
  continuous. Photographs are reproduced at a a much higher fidelity as
  with the hpcups driver.
  
  Questions:
  1. Why do the two drivers use different rasterization?
  2. Why the result of rasterization so bad in the hpcups driver, set at 
resolution Normal, Greyscale?
  
  Note:
  Both drivers produce acceptable color prints with much viewer artifacts 
visible, even at resolution Normal.
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: hplip 3.12.2-1ubuntu3.1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic i686
  ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
  Architecture: i386

[Bug 1036236] Re: hpcups and hpijs driver use different rasterization

2012-08-13 Thread Till Kamppeter
This is a problem of the upstream design of the HPLIP printer drivers by
HP, not of the Ubuntu packaging of the drivers. Therefore I am adding an
upstream task to make your bug report visible to the developers at HP.

Can someone of the HPLIP developers at HP look into this and tell why
the two driver flavors (hpcups and hpijs) use so different halftoning
algorithms?


** Also affects: hplip
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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