[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

I take that back, the problem is still visible, time seems to shift a whole 
hour, even with ntp updating on.
ntpdate and crontab combination is the only temporary fix so far

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

I think this is fixed, ntp support in System > Administration > Time and
date seems to be fixed in ubuntu karmic 9.10

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Re: [Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

$ sudo hwclock; date
Sat 24 Jan 2009 07:33:43 CET  -0.248479 seconds
Sat Jan 24 07:40:41 CET 2009

Well, the difference isn't that visible, but I can still confirm this.

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Re: [Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Shirish Agarwal]

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 19:00, Savvas Radevic  wrote:



> It wasn't a command, I'm using ntpdate in /etc/crontab instead of ntp. :)
> To disable ntp sync you can use System > Adminstration > Time and Date
>> Set "Configuration" to "Manual".

Set to Manual but still its off.

$ sudo hwclock;date
[sudo] password for shirish:
Friday 23 January 2009 07:25:17 PM IST  -0.880970 seconds
Fri Jan 23 19:25:24 IST 2009

As can be seen it seems to have grown.

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Re: [Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

> $ ntp server off
> bash: ntp: command not found

It wasn't a command, I'm using ntpdate in /etc/crontab instead of ntp. :)
To disable ntp sync you can use System > Adminstration > Time and Date
> Set "Configuration" to "Manual".

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Re: [Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Shirish Agarwal]

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On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 17:30, Savvas Radevic  wrote:
> Anyone still having the problem?
> $ sudo hwclock;date
> Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:00:33 CET  -0.910121 seconds
> Fri Jan 23 13:00:50 CET 2009

Still on Intrepid, still its off by some.

~$ sudo hwclock;date
[sudo] password for shirish:
Friday 23 January 2009 06:11:18 PM IST  -0.561178 seconds
Fri Jan 23 18:11:24 IST 2009

> I'm going to disable ntpdate, just to see if this is fixed.
> (ntp server off)

I couldn't get this command :(

$ ntp server off
bash: ntp: command not found

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radevic]

Anyone still having the problem?
$ sudo hwclock;date
Fri 23 Jan 2009 13:00:33 CET  -0.910121 seconds
Fri Jan 23 13:00:50 CET 2009

I'm going to disable ntpdate, just to see if this is fixed.
(ntp server off)

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Pedro Villavicencio]

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radević]

Something is definitely wrong.. 
$ sudo hwclock; sudo date
Thu 25 Sep 2008 07:17:48 PM CEST  -0.544369 seconds
Thu Sep 25 19:36:19 CEST 2008

$ cat /etc/ntp.conf 
# /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd; see ntp.conf(5) for help

driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift


# Enable this if you want statistics to be logged.
#statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/

statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable


# You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).


# Access control configuration; see /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/accopt.html for
# details.  The web page 

# might also be helpful.
#
# Note that "restrict" applies to both servers and clients, so a configuration
# that might be intended to block requests from certain clients could also end
# up blocking replies from your own upstream servers.

# By default, exchange time with everybody, but don't allow configuration.
restrict -4 default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery
restrict -6 default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery

# Local users may interrogate the ntp server more closely.
restrict 127.0.0.1
restrict ::1

# Clients from this (example!) subnet have unlimited access, but only if
# cryptographically authenticated.
#restrict 192.168.123.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust


# If you want to provide time to your local subnet, change the next line.
# (Again, the address is an example only.)
#broadcast 192.168.123.255

# If you want to listen to time broadcasts on your local subnet, de-comment the
# next lines.  Please do this only if you trust everybody on the network!
#disable auth
#broadcastclient
server time.nist.gov 
server ntp.nasa.gov


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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Savvas Radević]

I think this is recurring in Intrepid Ibex 8.10 alpha
$ apt-cache policy linux-generic 
linux-generic:
  Installed: 2.6.27.4.4
  Candidate: 2.6.27.4.4
  Version table:
 *** 2.6.27.4.4 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/restricted Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
$ apt-cache policy ntp
ntp:
  Installed: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-6ubuntu2
  Candidate: 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-6ubuntu2
  Version table:
 *** 1:4.2.4p4+dfsg-6ubuntu2 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


I'm not sure, I'll monitor it
$ sudo hwclock; sudo date
Wed 24 Sep 2008 07:47:14 PM CEST  -0.721641 seconds
Wed Sep 24 19:38:45 CEST 2008

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Willem Ligtenberg]

Other people have confirmed this bug.
Although it is still unclear where the error comes from.
It is however clear that quite a few people are experiencing time shifting.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[nostromo]

I've got exactly the same problem problem slowly the time difference gets 
bigger and bigger. In the weekend i wasn't home and left the computer on the 
time difference was 2 hours and 12 minutes...
Well thats a big problem because mythtv doesn't start recording on the right 
time.

I am using 7.10 gutsy gibbon.
Only thing i installed after a fresh Ubuntu install was mythtv.
It all runs on a fairly new computer, duo core 2. and a gigabyte motherboard 
with p35 chip set.
The bios time is correct, checked it a few time.

Same as phirestalker above, I don't like it to install an other program while 
something that should do the same right out of the box is already installed.
My Linux knowledge isn't great, but if someone needs more info or if I can help 
in anyway let it know.

Hope that some advanced Linux users can resolve this problem...

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

I am using fiesty

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hwclock
Mon 01 Oct 2007 08:28:09 PM CDT  -0.629160 seconds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ date
Mon Oct  1 20:20:27 CDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

I realize it's in the opposite direction than everyone elses problem but
seems to have the same symptoms. I do not intend to install something
new to do what is supposed to already be done by something that is
installed, I will just wait for this bug to be fixed

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[medigeek]

sorry, forgot the chmod part :)

sudo apt-get install ntpdate
sudo touch /etc/ntpdatey
sudo chmod +x /etc/ntpdatey
gksu gedit /etc/ntpdatey

There paste:
#!/bin/bash
ntpdate time.nist.gov ntp.nasa.gov

Save & close, then do:
gksu gedit /etc/crontab

Add a line:
0 */2 * * * /etc/ntpdatey

Save & close, then do:
sudo /etc/ntpdatey

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[medigeek]

Are you sure it's the same bug?  Are you using Feisty or Gutsy beta?
do:
hwclock && date

either way do the following, it will update your clock every 2 hours:
sudo apt-get install ntpdate
sudo touch /etc/ntpdatey
gksu gedit /etc/ntpdatey

There paste:
#!/bin/bash
ntpdate time.nist.gov ntp.nasa.gov

Save & close, then do:
gksu gedit /etc/crontab

Add a line:
0 */2 * * * /etc/ntpdatey

Save & close, then do:
/etc/ntpdatey

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

ok so it's not a gnome bug you say so is this bug gonna be recategorized
to the correct place? or has anyone else found the solution maybe?

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

nope it does it even with just time.nist.gov checked. what gives?

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

ok actually it seems that it doesn't matter what servers for me after a
while it lags behind, and the act of choosing any other server will
update the time. I will try with only the 2 time.nist.gov and
ntp.nasa.gov. if that doesn't work I will try with only one

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[medigeek]

Uncheck ubuntu, it seemed unstable. I have in my /etc/ntp.conf these:
server time.nist.gov 
server ntp.nasa.gov

The only servers I've been using and that provide me an accurate time.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[phirestalker]

yes I removed all ntp servers in the clock applet except for the ones
mediageek mentioned and the time difference corrected itself mine was 10
minutes behind. I'm not sure which one cause the problem, however I also
had the ubuntu.com ntp server selected. maybe this one is the problem?

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[medigeek]

It's fixed in Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon :)

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

I've attached a logfile. I disabled ntp and used: hwclock && date (every 5 
minutes as root /etc/crontab)
I used ntpdate right before enabling it.

Notice how time in "date" gradually increases? That's my problem. That
didn't and does not happen in edgy/dapper drake (tested 3 times with a
clean format) nor in windows xp.


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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

The problems still show... the problem still seems to be software, i.e. 
something in ubuntu feisty 7.04
This is not a low priority by the way, it screws up my log messages

I wondered if my system info might show up something, hence I attached a
system information report

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

Case solved temporarily, the thing I did was to put the "good" ntp servers:
$ hwclock && date
Tue 29 May 2007 07:57:28 PM CEST  -0.175399 seconds
Tue May 29 19:27:30 CEST 2007

ntp servers used (in this order in /etc/ntp.conf):
server chronos.csr.net 
server ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk
server ntp2b.mcc.ac.uk

The server doesn't have to be the closest to you, as long as it's precise, i.e. 
belongs to the so called "Stratum One" (closer to *precision*) group, you can 
find them here:
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1a.html
http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumOneTimeServers

Most servers (if not all) in the "select ntp server" list in ubuntu are stratum 
one, but i believe ntp.ubuntu.com brakes that.
europe.pool.ntp.org wasn't a good idea either.

That's all I changed, and restarted the ntp daemon:
$ sudo /etc/init.d/ntp restart

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

well.. if no-one responds in a month with a fix, I'll try format it
completely (including my /home/ partition), which I hope will solve the
case

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[joehack]

Thank god I'm not the only one with this problem.

After an uptime of 14 min, the Linux clock lags 15 minutes behind the
hardware clock!

Jochen

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

Ok here are my logs and ntp stats:

$ hwclock && date
Mon 28 May 2007 05:06:26 PM CEST  -0.164175 seconds
Mon May 28 17:24:50 CEST 2007

my /etc/ntp.conf:
### PASTE START ###
# /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd

driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/

statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable


# You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).

# By default, exchange time with everybody, but don't allow configuration.
# See /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/accopt.html for details.
restrict default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery

# Local users may interrogate the ntp server more closely.
restrict 127.0.0.1 nomodify

# Clients from this (example!) subnet have unlimited access,
# but only if cryptographically authenticated
#restrict 192.168.123.0  mask  255.255.255.0 notrust

# If you want to provide time to your local subnet, change the next line.
# (Again, the address is an example only.)
#broadcast 192.168.123.255

# If you want to listen to time broadcasts on your local subnet,
# de-comment the next lines. Please do this only if you trust everybody
# on the network!
#disable auth
#broadcastclient
server 0.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 1.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 2.europe.pool.ntp.org
server 3.europe.pool.ntp.org
### PASTE END ###

(Yes, I do not use ntp.ubuntu.com, but it does create the same problem)

attached are:
/var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
/var/log/ntpstats/peerstats
/var/log/ntpstats/loopstats

I hope this is enough :)

P.S. If it matters, I haven't upgraded to the new 2.6.20.16.28.1 kernel
yet.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

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** Tags removed: sync

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

please do, as I'm not familiar with these procedures

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sam Liddicott]

Maybe I don't have the same bug; 
The time lag seems to occur when booted from a low-latency  SMP kernel but when 
one of the processors hasn't come up, see bug #97554

I'll try reproducing in i386 kernel, and other smp tests and report more
when I have it.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sam Liddicott]

I'm using feisty and enabled ntp from the "Administration/Date and Time"
menu.

Since I reset my clock this morning, my /var/log/ntpstats/peerstats has
gone like this:

54213 28122.920 82.211.81.145 9014 0.084361261 0.094846198 7.937503096 
0.00954
...
54213 65161.924 82.211.81.145 9014 456.429896177 0.093862087 0.003818384 
1.983832515


ntp darn well KNOWs it is out, and my clock strangely is about 7 minutes 35 
seconds out.

So the actual bug is something to do with the ntp configuration that is
stopping ntp from adjusting the clock.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sam Liddicott]

I get the computer time lagging behind 10-15 ninutes.
It's nothing to do with the clock applet.

I left my computer turned on all night and now it is 15 minutes behind
even though it should be syncing to 4 time servers.

I'd say it was missing interrupts except for the people who are running
ahead.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ date ; hwclock
Mon Apr 23 08:13:31 BST 2007
Mon 23 Apr 2007 08:31:21 BST  -0.391136 seconds

ntpdate seems to KNOW that it is out:
see /var/log/ntpstats/peerstats attached

My ntp.conf  is below,
# /etc/ntp.conf, configuration for ntpd

driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/

statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable


# You do need to talk to an NTP server or two (or three).
server ntp.ubuntu.com 

# By default, exchange time with everybody, but don't allow configuration.
# See /usr/share/doc/ntp-doc/html/accopt.html for details.
restrict default kod notrap nomodify nopeer noquery

# Local users may interrogate the ntp server more closely.
restrict 127.0.0.1 nomodify

# Clients from this (example!) subnet have unlimited access,
# but only if cryptographically authenticated
#restrict 192.168.123.0  mask  255.255.255.0 notrust

# If you want to provide time to your local subnet, change the next line.
# (Again, the address is an example only.)
#broadcast 192.168.123.255

# If you want to listen to time broadcasts on your local subnet,
# de-comment the next lines. Please do this only if you trust everybody
# on the network!
#disable auth
#broadcastclient
server ntp2.ja.net
server ntp.demon.co.uk
server ntp2a.mcc.ac.uk
server ntp2b.mcc.ac.uk


** Attachment added: "peerstats"
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/7389798/peerstats

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sebastien Bacher]

not a GNOME bug

** Changed in: Ubuntu
Sourcepackagename: gnome-panel => None
 Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs => (unassigned)
   Status: Needs Info => Unconfirmed

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[shirishag75]

[quote]
The bug lacks informations like the version of Ubuntu you are using. The 
gnome-panel runs in user space and can't change the clock, why do you think 
it's due to it? Does it happen if you don't use the desktop? It could be your 
computer clock shifting. Does it happen if you don't log into GNOME or use an 
another environment? [/quote]

The version of Ubuntu used, Feisty Fawn 7.04 . Ok I do not hink forger
meant the clock applet is due to the panel but he did not know where to
categorize it. Ok I have not tried not using the desktop. As far as the
computer clock shifting is concerned, checked both in BIOS  & XP and
things are cool.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hwclock
Friday 13 April 2007 12:04:38 AM IST  -0.927913 seconds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ date
Fri Apr 13 00:04:41 IST 2007

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

I checked the time on windows xp, everything was ok for two days (not
even a second shifted)

Also, here's:
- hwclock output: Thu 12 Apr 2007 04:18:20 PM CEST  -0.738322 seconds
- date output: Thu Apr 12 16:22:50 CEST 2007
The shifting is less these days, after some big upgrades in ubuntu 7.04 (sorry, 
didn't keep record). It gained only 5 minutes after a day of uptime, whereas it 
used to shift the time about a lot more after only 5-6 hours of uptime

The clock applet follows the date output. I was told in #gnome
(irc.gnome.org) that if date and clock applet output match, then it's
probably something else wrong. Since the gnome-panel and gnome is
logically out of the picture, maybe it's the kernel image?

I don't know if it happens when i'm not logged in, I'll surely check it
out one of these days.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sebastien Bacher]

The bug lacks informations like the version of Ubuntu you are using. The
gnome-panel runs in user space and can't change the clock, why do you
think it's due to it? Does it happen if you don't use the desktop? It
could be your computer clock shifting. Does it happen if you don't log
into GNOME or use an another environment?

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

** Description changed:

  No matter which ntp server I choose, the time jumps ahead after a day or so 
for 10 to 20 minutes. It looks as if the timer is not correct when counting.
  I'll try without the ntp synchronizing, just to see if this relies to the 
time/date panel in gnome-panel.
+ 
+ Edit: the problem looks to be the clock applet itself, it does not keep
+ a steady timer, it jumps ahead 10-20 minutes after several hours.

** Tags added: applet clock gnome-panel ntp sync

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

Same situation here.
Can you be a bit more specific of what you require and possibly some steps to 
debug the clock applet? The clock applet seems to go ahead 20 minutes in time 
after 5-6 hours or after 24 hours have passed since the last resynchronization 
(manual or by ntp).
Disable any ntp server syncs and I guess you'll see it as well.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[shirishag75]

Hi Sebastian,
First of all thanx for the fascinating read. Although I did 
visit the debugging of some problems there was nothing about how to debug the 
clock applet. Also this phenomena/event happens over period of time. My 
computer is usually on 24/7 . I usually do my stuff, have some torrent or the 
other running in the background and go to sleep. Wake up after few hrs. then 
start playing/working whatever. I have not been able to time it when the change 
occurs but it is a general occurence which happens within 24 hrs. Now I do not 
know how to narrow it down. If u do have some way or some idea maybe some 
script or something which keeps a watch on how the clock is performing I am 
willing to do it as this improves things for everybody. Incidentally this may 
or may not be related to bug #104507 . That bug is reproducible all the time 
every time. Am I doing something wrong? Please lemme know. Thanx in advance.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[Sebastien Bacher]

Thanks for taking the time to report this bug. Unfortunately we can't fix it, 
because your description didn't include enough information. You may find it 
helpful to read "How to report bugs effectively" 
. We'd be grateful if 
you would then provide a more complete description of the problem. 
 
 We have instructions on debugging some types of problems. 
 Thanks!

** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Low
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs
   Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[shirishag75]

re-confirming, it has happened again so its reproducible

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[shirishag75]

 It is happening to me too, although I am using local time, no UTC
stuff.

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[Bug 104091] Re: time jumps ahead 10-20 minutes no matter the ntp server

[forger]

Theory confirmed, the timer jumped ahead 10 minutes, it should be 19:18, 
whereas it is 19:28
Looks like the internal timer of the time&date panel is faulty or something.

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