[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2018-06-04 Thread Andy Courcier
Ubuntu 14.04 Server Not Rebooting (ifupdown network issue)

It appears that with the latest bundle of Ubuntu updates, ifupdown
breaks the server boot quite fantastically.

Resolution 1: Change the order that the updates are applied in

[1] BACKUP SERVER!
[2] apt-get update
[3] apt-mark hold ifupdown
[4] apt-get upgrade -y
[5] apt-mark unhold ifupdown
[6] apt-get upgrade -y
[7] Check that the server reboots correctly

Resolution 2: edit your network interfaces file, specifically looking for 
incorrect commands:
example: post-up ip6tables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules

This is clearly not correct since it is attempting to load IPV4 tables to IPV6 
routes and will result in a network failure,
thus preventing booting of the server.

[1] nano /etc/network/interfaces
[2] Remove incorrect post boot commands, ie. post-up ip6tables-restore < 
/etc/iptables.up.rules
[3] apt-mark unhold ifupdown (If you previously had the package on hold)
[4] apt-get upgrade -y
[5] Check that the server reboots correctly.

I am not sure where this bug came from @ubuntu but it is nasty, nasty,
nasty!

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2017-02-21 Thread Honghe Wu
On 16.04 I have to do as follow to make new IP work after modify the
file /etc/network/interfaces, cause `service networking restart` not
work.

```
sudo if addr flush eth0
sudo ifdown --force eth0
sudo ifup eth0
```

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2017-02-21 Thread Honghe Wu
On 16.04 I have to do as follow to make new IP work after modify the
file /etc/network/interfaces, cause `service networking restart` not
work.

```
sudo ip addr flush eth0
sudo ifdown --force eth0
sudo ifup eth0
```

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-10-20 Thread Lukas Pirl
+1 (#27 and alike)

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-06-05 Thread Hayjumper
Additionally, the ifdown/ifup method does not load certain changes (e.g.
IP address) properly, and often breaks networking when such changes are
made.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-06-04 Thread Ryan Cooper
>Seriously people, get over yourself

There's no need to be rude and condescending, Gabriel. It is possible to
have a disagreement without being a jerk about it.

There's about 100% more keystrokes in:
> `( ifdown -a --exclude=lo; ifup -a --exclude=lo) &` 
vs
> service networking restart

Plus `service networking restart` is much cleaner, easier to type,
memorable, and baked into a considerable number of people's scripts. So
no, we can't move along. This is the definition of a regression, and
it's clear why so many people are bothered by it.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-05-11 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
Seriously people, get over yourself. Here's what the init script did on
restart:

  ifdown -a --exclude=lo $verbose
  ifup -a --exclude=lo $exclusions $verbose && ifup_hotplug $exclusions $verbose

All the rest is message output, checking for /etc/network/options and
other boilerplate stuff. That's exactly the same suggestion feliperechia
made in #8 about 2 years ago.

"Oh, but he didn't mention ifup_hotplug or $exclusions yadda yadda"

Well, ifup_hotplug actually extracts a list of interfaces from the
output of `ifquery --list --allow=hotplug`, checks they're physical
interfaces and have physical link, and runs ifup for all of them.

I sincerely doubt any of the "oh I screwed up and now have to take a 4
hour flight to the datacenter" are hotplugging their network interfaces.
If your NIC is available on boot it should be set to 'auto' and will be
picked up by `ifup -a`. No need for ifup_hotplug on headless servers.


$exclusions is the EXCLUDE_INTERFACES parameter from /etc/default/networking. 
$verbose is either '-v' or empty. You probably don't use either.

So yeah, `( ifdown -a --exclude=lo; ifup -a --exclude=lo) &` should work
for everyone because that's exactly what `/etc/init.d/networking
restart` did.

Can we move along now? Thanks!

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-04-15 Thread Joseph Fisher
This is a problem for bonded interfaces. A full networking restart is
required when reconfiguring slave interfaces or bonds. The lack of
support for restarting networking then means a full host restart is
required, which is absurd. This isn't Windows.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-04-04 Thread mreider
I just stumbled into this issue, somehow missed it till now. Wanted to
setup 14.04 as  my Puppet enterprise Master but will have to use Centos
7 as the service provider for puppet uses 'service X restart'

at least version 15 has systemd startup, none of this ifup, ifdown
nonsense

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Re: [Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-03-29 Thread flickerfly
If I understand correctly, this won't be fixed at this level. Some sort of
escalation would need to happen to put the facts in front of someone else
to get a different decision.

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:41 AM Dennis DeMarco <
dennis.dema...@rackspace.com> wrote:

> Why hasn't this been fixed yet. It's a total automation fail.
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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-03-29 Thread Dennis DeMarco
Why hasn't this been fixed yet. It's a total automation fail.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-03-29 Thread Stanislav
'networking restart' was found to be able to to break some GUIs, as reported 
here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ifupdown/+bug/1072518

Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' was bringing down entire
desktop environment (obviously on desktop version of OS). It was
reported for Ubuntu >=12. Also I've noted that the people there where
mentioning frequently also Network Manager, so I can imagine that some
faulty link between some GUI component and networking was introduced,
which may lead under certain conditions to a crash (pls correct me if
you went further in this investigation). So, disabling of networking
restart seems to be quick workaround to overcome some bigger problem in
GUI. Do not ask me why to do the same for the server OS.

I can imagine that with introduction of Unity desktop (exactly starting
from Ubuntu12) which is purely 'consumeristic' with all its blinking,
jumping, scrolling semitransparent stuff, they did not manage to keep
anymore well separated GUI from key system functionalities...

I'm personally using Ubuntu 12 Server with Gnome 3 traditional GUI (w/o
Network Manager) on my laptop for several years already, and
'/etc/init.d/networking restart' did never brake my system. I'm running
Ubuntu 12 server at several servers, and did never get trouble with
networking restart. I've recently installed Ubuntu 14 server + classical
Gnome 3 on one desktop, and after adjusting /etc/init.d/networking as
suggested by Joshua (#33), and restarted it several times after -
nothing bad did happen to the desktop GUI...

It seems to be rather sad trend in OS developing when faults in GUI
determines future of server OS. I want to believe that in the next
future we will not need to reboot after every change in configs of Cups,
Samba, Apache... Like one should do in Windows.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-03-21 Thread Ro
#74: Good point!

Stéphane Graber (stgraber) is not subscribed to this bug anymore and
this bug is unassigned. I fear that #64 point a) has happened for real.
Hmm...

At the same time an officially supported way to restart the interfaces
reliably, even over SSH, is missing. My only hope is that this will be
implicitly resolved in 16.04 when migrating to systemd.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2016-01-05 Thread Asher Newcomer
Is there really no better solution for this than ifdown/ifup ?

What is the recommended method to restart all networking services,
rather than a select interface?

RHEL can manage this easily: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-
US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-
NetworkManager_and_the_Network_Scripts.html

"Although NetworkManager provides the default networking service, Red
Hat developers have worked hard to ensure that scripts and
NetworkManager cooperate with each other. Administrators who are used to
the scripts can certainly continue to use them. We expect both systems
to be able to run in parallel and work well together. It is expected
that most user shell scripts from previous releases will still work. Red
Hat recommends that you test them first."

What is the equivalent for Ubuntu / Canonical?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-12-17 Thread Rob Shepherd
This does not work for me.

 ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0

as root, running over ssh and screen and the machine has disappeared.


Unfortunately our test machines are not VMs with local access only to the 
console.
I now have a long round trip journey to the datacenter.  

What a waste of time.  FFS

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-12-17 Thread Rob Shepherd
This is another sign of a good distribution going backwards.

I need to change a large VM cluster from DHCP to static over SSH using
automation tools

/etc/init.d/networking restart used to work remotely for this. What the
heck am I supposed to do now?

Clearly everybody used /etc/init.d/networking . Can it not be
retrofitted to be a supported function?

Can anybody confirm a method of reliably reloading the network config
remotely over SSH ?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-12-09 Thread Hayjumper
The command in comment #8 *should* do this in a single exec resource:

sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a

However, I have found this does not actually work either for any
significant config change (e.g. IP address change, gateway change).  In
fact, the command above frequently causes networking to stop working in
such cases.

The only way I've found that works is to reboot the server;
NetworkManager is not an option when doing text-based network config.
Other distros using upstart do not seem to have this problem.  It's a
shame that Canonical hasn't seen fit to address this, and its cost them
my employer's (albeit meager) support budget.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-12-08 Thread Tim Carmean
This is affecting me as well. I don't care about the bug/feature
argument, but I know other folks are running into this in Puppet managed
environments. Has anyone come up with a graceful workaround for the
following:

class networking {

file { 'interfaces':
source => 'puppet:///modules/networking/interfaces',
path => '/etc/network/interfaces',
notify => Service['networking'],
}

service { 'networking':
ensure => 'running',
enable => 'true',
}

}

Off the top of my head a solution that requires running ifdown followed
by ifup would require the use of 2 exec types in a specific order. I'm
far from a Puppet expert, but I know that this would be fairly complex
to code and quite error prone.

Any help would be appreciated. I know that many of you are volunteers
and I appreciate the time and effort you put into making Ubuntu a great
distribution.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-12-04 Thread white
hello,everybody
I also meeting this question or said BUG.
begin,i can`t telnet my linux in the  VMware 11.0,I find ways to restart net,
I read your comments and I have some thinking.
end,I find gateway is wrong..

I fixed my question but bash still echo 
$sudo service networking restart
stop :Job failed while stopping
start:Job is already running :networking

welcome send me E-mail to discuss about linux and make friends. 
baileh...@sina.com

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-11-19 Thread Emile Snyder
Summary of this thread:

Sysadmin: "Dude, I've been using hammer (tm) since 1.0, and it always
had a handle. Now in 14.04 all I get is the hammer head, what gives?"

Vendor: "Using the handle was never supported."

Sysadmin: "So, like, what am I supposed to do when I need to hammer in a
nail?"

Vendor: "Just hold the hammer head in your hand and hit the nail. What
seems to be the problem?"



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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-11-11 Thread flickerfly
The man hours lost on this across the globe are rising. The sudo ifdown
eth0; sudo ifup eth0 solution solves some of the problems but not all of
them.

Either way, a better error message would be helpful in at least saving
people from debugging why it doesn't work and then coming in here and
ranting.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-09-24 Thread Rob Miller
great... due to that "feature" i just lost a day of precious working time and 
had to drive almost 100 miles for nothing. following this thread to find out 
why /etc/init.d/networking restart not working anymore (and causing lots of 
unwanted effekts and in the end lost connectivity ) to find out that some 
people are really ignorant enough to still call this change of expected 
behaviour which worked very well for years and years a "feature" and "it was 
never intended to blahblah".
--> have you guys gone crazy?? 

this is BULLSHIT and you should fix it right now and restore this functionality
(BTW you messed up big with changed DNS syntax as well... really funny changing 
important stuff all the time and waste precious time of countless people who 
try to get stuff running... right??)

8.04 LTS worked (and still works) for years, was the most stable distro of all 
times in my 20 years career
12.04 LTS worked well, recently lots of problems, repositories not found, lot 
of manual work... not good
14.04 LTS lots of annoying problems and "features" that will drive many people 
away from a once good distro

I would boot the people with that "extra creativity", restore
reliability and make stuff working again, if you guys have a rest of
decency than you say "sorry we messed this up big and we gonna fix it
now"

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-08-23 Thread Wm Baum
This is my current workaround patch, which seems to work fairly well:

sed -i 's/if init_is_upstart/if false \&\& init_is_upstart/ig'
/etc/init.d/networking

Simply changes all instances of "if init_is_upstart" to "if false &&
init_is_upstart".

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-08-22 Thread Tyler Bletsch
I've been in IT a while, and this bug report is playing out in the
standard dysfunctional way:

1. Obvious regression is made.
2. Developer states that the bug is a feature, that his/her way is the Correct 
Way, and that all other views are wrong or merely opinions.
3. Reams of evidence of material harm are proffered to the contrary.
4. Incredulous users hit by the regression keep piling on until (a) developers 
simply ignore the bug entirely forever, (b) a developer has public meltdown, 
(c) a more seasoned developer with the ability to consider diverging views 
steps in and resolves things.

I think we're all hoping for (c), but honestly, (a) is a vastly more
common outcome.

The only thing missing is for someone to post "if you need this so bad,
just fork the distro yourself...that's the open source way!", as if
someone's going to actually develop "Non-broken-networking-buntu".

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-07-18 Thread Luis Rueda
Any other solutions ? I am really looking for a clean solution to this.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-07-05 Thread PikachuEXE
Quote #50
We need this bug fixed!

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-06-23 Thread DblD
quote #50, and add request for escalation of this issue.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-05-28 Thread anthony acquanita
+1000

This is stupid

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-05-24 Thread Mickael Ange
+1 Please revert the script implementation back as it was when it was working. 
It affects too many of us. IMHO it is not a real improvement/feature when a 
script does nothing, better to remove it, at least it would be clear/clean.
Kindly

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-05-17 Thread Wm Baum
More than a year later and no action.. Unbelievable.

I made the mistake of attempting to deploy Trusty for a new DNS server.
Spent about an hour attempting to migrate the old IP to the new box.
None of the workarounds were successful -- including the 13.10 scripts
the previously worked.  Only rebooting the box brought the IP alias up
successfully.  Totally unacceptable.

Is this just something stupid in the scripts or is there some underlying
change that actually broke networking?

If this isn't fixed soon, Precise will have been the last usable LTS
server release.

Ugh.. All my Precise boxes will have to get migrated to some other
distribution. Trusty is no longer an option..

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-30 Thread Simon Green
Almost definitely and accidental change to invalid

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-30 Thread Benjamin Xiao
@booch, I am confused why you marked this as Invalid if you think that
the script should work...

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-30 Thread booch
This is unacceptable and disturbing change.
In Ubuntu 14.04 still work upstart and not systemd. 

I don't see even one reason, why init script shouldn't work properly. 
More than this, I don't see any reason, why there is no comment or warning when 
I use /etc/init.d/netwroking restart 
Simply empty output. This is disgusting.


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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-29 Thread Paul
+1. This is a major inconvenience.   I had to restart the server every
time for the nics to start working.  (sad face)

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-23 Thread house
How is this still being ignored?? What is the work around? For example a
bridge started and configured in /etc/network/interfaces errors when
doing ifdown br0 as "not found" so this is obviously not a working
method as previously noted.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-17 Thread jobarjo
I can't believe this very important functionality has been removed and
there is no alternative solution given for reading the
/etc/network/interfaces file (except reboot)

Ifconfig solution doesn't read the configuration files. It is
unacceptable.

There must be a script that reads this file. Where is it? How to trigger it?
Is it the same with debian?

This feature is documented everywhere:
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Networking

As long as no viable alternative solution is given, this has to be
considered a very important bug.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-04-14 Thread ttosttos
+1.  This is a major inconvenience for deployment/operation of cloud
infrastructure.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-26 Thread Robert Taylor
The other serious technical issue is that with "networking restart" no
longer supported either an init.d or upstart, there is no way to address
automated restarting any of the dependent network services that would
normally be restarted as a group (like nfs).  Any automated build
process is going to need to deal with configuration of not only the
interface devices (ifup/ifdown), but also the restart of dependent
network services to ensure that they are all updated with configuration
changes (that's the whole purpose of init.d, upstart and systemd - to
control the management and boot order of services and network
dependencies, including the restarting of them).

I understand that Ubuntu is moving to systemd in future releases, but
that isn't available in any of their current "LTS" releases and
enterprise environments cannot move major infrastructure to another OS
release that only has a 9 month support window.  Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is
going to be the major OS release used in enterprise environments  till
April 2019 - networking can't be left unsupported in both init.d and
upstart until 16.04 comes out.   With 10.04 LTS EOL shortly, this needs
to be addressed rather than forcing enterprise institutions to update
only to 12.04 LTS which expires in 2 years.

Please escalate this issue.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-26 Thread Hayjumper
I second rgtaylor's request.  This additionally has great impact on
automated build scripts & systems (in my case, Foreman/puppet) which
need a way to make networking changes (such as new IP address) & apply
those changes, often on systems for which console access is (at best)
inconvenient due to location, etc.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-25 Thread Robert Taylor
I would like to "officially" request escalation of this issue up to next
level of Ubuntu support - it is currently listed as "confirmed", "high"
and "unassigned".  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is very soon EOL, and this
functional requirement is currently removed from the current LTS version
with no migration path in place.

It has been flagged as a "hot" item for over a year and seems to be
being ignored by Ubuntu development staff for what seems to be
ideological reasons.

/etc/init.d/networking has been an essential method for anyone doing
large scale headless server deployments  to generically handle scripted
network management of  physical and virtual servers.   In these
environments, individual hosts  could have completely different network
interfaces on every individual machine.   "Anyone", in this case  also
includes the authors of officially deployed deb application packages
delivered with Ubuntu 14.04 that currently don't work...

This bug breaks cloud deployments of Ubuntu in Opennebula as delivered
natively in deb's with Ubuntu 14.04.  The network contextualization
scripts delivered in opennebula-context_4.2.0-2_all.deb use "service
networking"  to dynamically assign virtual machines IP addresses on the
fly at boot time.Without a fix, no Ubuntu 14.04 VM's running in an
Opennebula Cloud can get  an IP addresses - this has been the case since
the OS version was released.

How many other network related applications are impacted by this change
that were never tested for removal of this functionality?

As an organization that is focused on supporting virtualization and
"cloud" server infrastructure (as opposed to only GUI desktops and
phones), I would have expected development staff to have a better
understanding of the impact of  this type of issue and would  have given
it more attention  than it has - or at least develop alternate
functionality that meets the same functional requirements.

#last lines of /etc/one-context.d/00-network as delivered in Ubuntu 14.04 
opennebula-context_4.2.0-2_all.deb
# ifup/down eth0 won't work - the virtual machine can have any number of 
dynamically assigned 
# interfaces at boot time
...
"configure_network()
{
gen_network_configuration > /etc/network/interfaces

service networking stop
sleep 1
service networking start

sleep 2
}"

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-24 Thread Benjamin Xiao
Thanks for the update Simon.

Never mind /etc/init.d/networking restart does not work either. I tried
removing an interface and then doing a network restart, but nothing took
effect.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-24 Thread Simon Green
No fix has been released. The status change must have been in error

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-24 Thread Benjamin Xiao
In my brief testing it seems like sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart is
working, but not sudo service networking restart.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-24 Thread Benjamin Xiao
I too had huge problems with this issue. I have a 14.04 server blade
that takes ages to reboot, but currently it is the only way to restart
networking when adding for example network bridges.

This problem still exists. It is a feature regression. Stop denying that
fact so it can be fixed.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-10 Thread Pawan
Can someone tell me from where to find the new release??? I am not able
to find that..

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-03-02 Thread Josh
Anyone have a link to where it was committed/released? Having trouble
finding it...

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-02-24 Thread Piotr Żurek
** Changed in: ifupdown (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-02-10 Thread Mathieu Alorent
hu! "Fix Committed "
Which package version fix this ?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-02-10 Thread talat
** Changed in: ifupdown (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-02-10 Thread Ricky Seltzer
In 14.10 I have network failure after resuming from suspension.  It never was a 
problem then a few days ago it became a problem.  The only solution was to 
reboot.  So I looked for a better solution and tried them all.  The one that 
works under 14.10 is:  
   sudo service network-manager restart

There are 6 other solutions presented in the Ubuntu forums here and
there.  If you needed to change it, you should have long ago created a
script 'RestartTheNetworkingHoweverItNeedsToBeDone.sh' and changed that
whenever you needed to change the underlying system.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2015-02-03 Thread Mario
Seriously canonical... this is getting ridiculous... many High priority
core functionality bus just being plain ignored...

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-12-26 Thread Mathivanan
I have changed my static ip configguration in /etc/network/interfaces. 
But i was unable to use any of the command to bring my interface up and 
running. It's totally useless thing what i have found.
I tried the following options. none of them worked.
1. sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
2. sudo ifdown eth0
3. sudo ifup eth0
4. sudo ifconfig eth0 down
5. sudo ifconfig eth0 up
but none of them reloads the /etc/network/interfaces

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-12-12 Thread woosht
Just read this whole thread and I too am unable to find a good
justification for why breaking this method of restarting networking was
needed, or the aggregate benefit of breaking many many legacy scripts.
Please resolve this!

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-12-11 Thread Jacob Cherkas
Unreal!

Does anyone from Canonical understand the impact of this change?

This breaks any and all remote automation!

Please address this issue!

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-11-05 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: ifupdown (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-11-04 Thread Mike Olson
Yes, I, too, find this to be very frustrating! I need to be able to
*easily* restart networking remotely via SSH and this is impossible with
the new way of doing things. How can I help fix this?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-31 Thread Joshua
This is ridiculous to see this is still an issue. I ran an update on a
couple farms (that were staged in a lab). Now my networking scripts that
I had *FIXED* are now overwritten... I now have 300+ servers that don't
do anything with an init networking script. If this script is an issue,
then please leave it out. The community will create their own patches.
But more importantly, if this script was disabled purposefully (note the
fix below) why was it overwritten by changes that don't do anything?

Can someone please post a link to where this decision was made? It's one
thing if you want to disable this for desktops. It's an entire other
issue for disabling for headless servers.

And why is there an init script that does nothing anyway? This makes no
sense. An init script that sill exists I assume are "for legacy
purposes" that is purposely broken? This is years in reverse to proclaim
the OLD way for bouncing the network is now the "documented way." This
breaks the motto of Ubuntu : Linux for Humans.

For those humans that still want to fix it (if you haven't done it already). 
Edit the script and go down to the arg switch...  Comment out anything like the 
following...
   if init_is_upstart; then
   exit 0
   fi

Make it like...

# Why did you do this?
#   if init_is_upstart; then
#   exit 0
#   fi

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-16 Thread Doug Smythies
Bug 1382059 is duplicate with bug 1298505. The serverguide has already
been fixed for 14.04. The bug remains open for the 12.04 serverguide,
but is unlikely to ever be done.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-16 Thread Shane Turner
I've opened 1382059 to suggest updating the server guide with the
correct way to restart networking.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-15 Thread Vlad K.
Turns out this was not the cause of failing network start after
hibernation resume (see comment #26).

One additional problem is that, unless something radically happens to
change the upstream, sooner or later the proper way to restart network
will be to issue a `systemctl` command, because systemd.

So if now Ubuntu is abandoning the init script (controllable with the
`service` command) in favor of ifup & ifdown, it is bound to break that
again in the upcoming releases in favor of `systemctl`, unless as I
mention the upstream changes mind or Ubuntu decides to stick with
Upstart after all. Both seem highly unlikely at this point.

As for comments about breaking the connection with ifdown & ifup ... I
don't get it, the init script does exactly that. So, what is broken,
then?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-15 Thread Simon Green
This is clearly in need of a decent fix! The amount of scripts and
systems this has broken for us is silly.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-15 Thread Ian Smith
This is totally unacceptable, please fix it and stop ignoring and
denying the problem.  Thank you.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-10-13 Thread Wm Baum
Server admins have been restarting networking with init scripts for many
years, and for me personally it was rather disturbing to find this no
longer works -- as well as to read some of the comments here.
Networking that cannot be reliably restarted in the same manner it's
brought up at boot time is a major problem.  Luckily the init scripts
from 13.10 actually still work, so this is my current workaround.

I'm not really sure what someone might do with networking that cannot be
manipulated with ifconfig and other lower level commands, and therefore
properly managed with init/upstart, but whatever warnings need to be
applied, perhaps should be applied to whatever that is.  And the fact
that some networking devices/configs may not be reliably
reloaded/restarted should not restrict the functionality of those that
can.

In these various comments I've not heard a compelling reason one
shouldn't be able to edit /etc/network/interfaces and restart/reload
networking.

Ubuntu Server has been my distro of choice for several years for colo
servers, vps's, vm's, etc..  Perhaps it's time to look at a different
server distro..

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-09-22 Thread Vlad K.
I just found this bug looking for a reason why my network failed to
(re)start upon resuming from hibernation. Can this be related?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-09-08 Thread Eric Light
Echoing comment #15, please provide evidence that this was discussed
somewhere, and why it was deemed important enough to castrate server
admins.  I just got bitten by it and ended up disabling networking on a
server that's an hour's drive away.  :-(

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-08-23 Thread AnrDaemon
#7 is not important, it's simply wrong.
man ifupdown, then complain.
For ifup it is enough that interface is present and configured in 
/etc/network/interfaces. Or you can just tell to start all configured 
interfaces.
For ifdown, you could always use -f.

VirtualBox argument is... just... I have no words. I'm laughing.

TL;DR: A bug report from someone, who never read, what system tell him,
doesn't qualify as opinion. Much less a bug.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-08-20 Thread uwe
man service suggests that "All scripts should support at least the start
and  stop  commands. "

indeed this is a change of behavior that is quit crucial, even if
"officially" service restart networking was never a "supported" way of
doing it, it seems to be an intuitive way of doing so; simply because
the script is there ! so intuitive that it is all over ubuntu
documentations, really, a message that is more helpful is needed.
otherwise, the mere existance of that script in the past should be
considered a bug, and continues to be so ... i guess 

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-08-03 Thread Afsin Toparlak
I'm also using:

# (ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0) &

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-08-03 Thread BArrYZ
Same problem here.

As mentioned by others, ifup/down it's not a real solution to restart
interfaces (all interfaces), and it's strange to not have a real error
message on stout.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-07-30 Thread Francesco Visin
"If you look at upstart's log, you'll notice the following message:
Stopping or restarting the networking job is not supported.
Use ifdown & ifup to reconfigure desired interface."
This error message should at least be visible in the standard output. "stop: 
Job failed while stopping" is really not very informative.

Anyway, ifdown & ifup do not work unless you configure the network manually:
ifdown: interface eth0 not configured

while ifconfig up & down do, so I would change the error message:
sudo ifconfig eth0 down && sudo ifconfig eth0 up

"This was never a supported way to bounce the network, starting with 14.04, we 
changed the init script to fail rather than possibly trash your machine."
This doesn't seem like a solution to me: it was not supported, but it was still 
working in many cases. Now it doesn't work, ever. Please at least provide a 
working alternative in a visible (i.e., not the log) error message.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-07-08 Thread Peter Waller
I've added the following file:

/etc/network/interfaces.d$ cat lo1.cfg 
auto lo1
iface lo1 inet loopback
address 127.0.1.1
netmask 255.0.0.0


How do I get it to take effect if not `restart networking`? I've tried `ifup 
lo1` but it just says cannot find device lo1. I have a feeling that I did 
`restart networking` before on a pre-trusty box and it worked.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-07-08 Thread Rob Frawley
Where/when was this change discussed prior to the change?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-07-08 Thread kevinf
It seems this was actually changed as of Ubuntu Saucy 13.10, as restart
--system networking and /etc/init.d/networking both failed...

At this point, its faster/reliable to reboot my machine (10 seconds),
than it is to open a terminal, and "ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup
--exclude=lo -a". init.d has always worked, including the many
custom embedded Linux machines I develop for.

At least a better error message must be shown in the init.d output.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-30 Thread Adrian Joian
Also I think the ifup/down are not used at boot time, so there are two
different ways that the network gets setup.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-25 Thread Matthew Walker
Regardless of whether it's officially supported or not, the method did
solve a lot of problems in one command. The only times it has caused
issues for me is when I have tun devices created by other services. In
general, I feel a better solution would be to have the networking only
restart those adapters which it controls (seen in /etc/interfaces).

Can you point us to the discussion you had on a mailing list, or bug, or
otherwise where it was discussed that this change needed to be made?
Otherwise it seems like it was made by fiat and it's now 13 to 1
against.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-05 Thread John Talbot
ifupdown does not work if using virtualbox and machine has been cloned -
including changing of MAC address during clone process...

Process..
Create new VM in VirtualBox 4.3.12
Install 14.04 server - 64
# sudo ifdown eth0  <-   works
# sudo ifup eth0 <-   works

Clone machine changing MAC address

# sudo ifdown eth0
# ifdown: interface eth0 not configured  <-   Output

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-04 Thread Stéphane Graber
I have no control as to what's included in the server guide and in this
instance the server guide is simply wrong.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-04 Thread Joshua
"This was never a supported way to bounce the network..." <--- Not
accurate


>From https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
Now restart networking to enable the bridge interface:
sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart

>From https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
Now restart networking to enable the bridge interface:
sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart

>From https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/serverguide/network-configuration.html
Now restart networking to enable the bridge interface:
sudo service networking restart

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-06-03 Thread Tilo Mey
Robert Taylor (rgtaylor) #7 is an important argument! Please reopen the
Bug

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-30 Thread Stéphane Graber
It sure is possible if you do it in the background. (ifdown blah ; ifup
blah)& will work great.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-30 Thread Simon Green
@Stéphane I disagree, this is not possible to do remotely.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-24 Thread Felipe Rechia
I had the same problem in ubuntu 14.04. The following thread shows a
workaround:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/230698/how-to-restart-the-networking-
service?lq=1

sudo ifdown --exclude=lo -a && sudo ifup --exclude=lo -a

This worked for me, restarted all interfaces except loopback.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-14 Thread Robert Taylor
ifdown/ifup requires that every interface be detected before hand and
restarted individually on multi-homed hosts  and hypervisors.

For hypervisors in a cloud environment this includes virtual bridges as
well.  The init script method available till this release of the OS
allowed restarting all  interfaces and bridges on any host via a single
command remotely.   With this change, now each machine may need a
different network shutdown/startup/restart process unique to its
particular configuration.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-03 Thread Stéphane Graber
ifdown  and ifup  works great, just use that.
Restarting the whole network simply isn't possible when it's brought up
through boot time events.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-05-03 Thread Simon Green
This is bad for remote administration over SSH. Running this command
would allow you to cleanly restart networking remotely over SSH, now
there is no nice way to do that.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-04-24 Thread Gus
This seems to be an unexpected change.

I appreciate the logic of the change but perhaps a more descriptive
solution could be present in the error?

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-04-24 Thread Simon Green
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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-04-24 Thread SeanBoran
Er, I've been just bitten by this "feature" too.

Having the habit of using /etc/init.d/*  (since it works on many
different platforms and my fingers learned it many years ago) I presumed
that would at some stage be replaced by the "service" command - but not
that networking would be started in some different way.

So I would also agree with comment #2 :-)

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-04-09 Thread Amir Ali Akbari
There must be a better program output for such a backward incompatible
behavior, not just in logs.

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[Bug 1301015] Re: Networking does not restart

2014-04-01 Thread Stéphane Graber
This was never a supported way to bounce the network, starting with
14.04, we changed the init script to fail rather than possibly trash
your machine.

If you look at upstart's log, you'll notice the following message:
Stopping or restarting the networking job is not supported.
Use ifdown & ifup to reconfigure desired interface.

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