[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #1129873 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1129873 ** Changed in: firefox Importance: Medium = Unknown ** Changed in: firefox Status: Invalid = Unknown ** Changed in: firefox Remote watch: Mozilla Bugzilla #397700 = Mozilla Bugzilla #1129873 ** Package changed: mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) = thunderbird (Ubuntu) ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #129720 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129720 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #129937 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129937 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #217116 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217116 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #219125 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219125 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #269664 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269664 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #302883 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302883 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #369548 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369548 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #370380 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370380 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #427394 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427394 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #483414 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483414 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #492276] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=492276] ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #56662 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56662 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #57868 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57868 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #627699 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #84269 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84269 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #85477 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85477 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #86628 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86628 ** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #94000 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94000 ** Bug watch removed: Debian Bug tracker #354220 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354220 ** Bug watch removed: Ubuntu.com Bugzilla [Obsoleted by Launchpad] #12737 http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12737 ** Also affects: iceweasel (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354220 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
+15 USD from me via FreedomSponsors -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** No longer affects: hundredpapercuts -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I care about getting this fixed, so I'm offering USD 15.00 via FreedomSponsors to the first person who fix it. Offer link: http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/416/implement- application-selector-nsimimeinfopossiblelocalhandlers-for-linux You can also join me and throw in a few bucks there and we'll get it fixed faster. :) If you fix this issue (see my and other pledgers acceptance criteria there) please use that site to request your payment. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = papercuts-s-gtk -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** No longer affects: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
comment #138 is about the patches to port firefox to GTK 3 which is a required before this bug is fixed. ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: raring-round-7 = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
According to comment #138, there's an upstream patch awaiting review. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = raring-round-7 ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Assignee: (unassigned) = Papercuts Ninja (papercuts-ninja) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
As far as I can tell the last upstream patch is just waiting on a review from Canonicals Chris Coulson. Although the patch has been waiting for the review for over a month already so who knows. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
This is an easy fix once the firefox port to gtk3 is finished (its currently making good progress). Reconfirming as a papercut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Yes, Mozilla hard work: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #627699 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=627699 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Is there an ETA on the port? Is it worth targeting to 12.10 or will it take longer than that? On 15 June 2012 09:47, Timothy Arceri 18...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: This is an easy fix once the firefox port to gtk3 is finished (its currently making good progress). Reconfirming as a papercut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid = Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to One Hundred Paper Cuts. Matching subscriptions: Papercut bug mail https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Confirmed Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Triaged Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “firefox-3.0” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Status in “firefox-3.5” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “mozilla-thunderbird” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When choosing to open a file in Firefox, an Open With dialog appears. You can choose to save the file or open it with a program from the list. However, if the desired program to open the file with is NOT listed, the user must navigate the filesystem to /usr/bin (or wherever) and select the appropriate program. A more user-friendly way would be to list all of the known programs installed that are available to open files with, and then have an Other... or Advanced... button for the user who would rather navigate the filesystem. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
It seems that any fix for this would require a significant investment of time from someone with significant technical knowledge - not really papercut material. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: quantal-9-internet = None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = quantal-9-internet -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** No longer affects: null -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #57868 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57868 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #84269 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84269 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #85477 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85477 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #86628 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86628 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #94000 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94000 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #129720 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129720 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #129937 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129937 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #217116 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217116 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #219125 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219125 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #302883 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302883 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #369548 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369548 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #427394 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427394 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #483414 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483414 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
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On 2007-09-26T21:49:14+00:00 Dmose wrote:
This is the Linux equivalent of bug 348808. Requesting [wanted-1.9].
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/13
On 2007-12-06T01:38:48+00:00 Dmose wrote:
Re-requesting blocking-1.9+, as it turns out this blocks bug 404434, and
that already has blocking-1.9+.
Does anyone with GNOME experience have a take on how hard this would be
(assuming it's possible)?
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/14
On 2007-12-06T01:55:30+00:00 Dsicore wrote:
+'ing and marking as P3 which aligns with bug 404434.
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/15
On 2007-12-06T06:24:41+00:00 Mh+mozilla wrote:
IIRC, there is no direct gnome API to get such a list, though it is not very
difficult to do so.
Anyways, I think first having bug 373397 landed would help making it more
easily. I'll post an updated patch soon.
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/16
On 2009-01-29T08:10:04+00:00 clemens wrote:
The Gnome API to get the list of all applications registered for a
mimetype call gnome_vfs_mime_get_all_application(const char *mimetype);
The implementation could look like:
NS_IMETHODIMP
nsGnomeVFSService::GetAllAppsForMimeType(const nsACString aMimeType,
nsIGnomeVFSMimeApp** aApp)
{
*aApps = nsnull;
GList *apps =
gnome_vfs_mime_get_all_application(PromiseFlatCString(aMimeType).get());
while(apps) {
GList *next = apps-next;
nsGnomeVFSMimeApp *mozApp = new nsGnomeVFSMimeApp(apps-data);
NS_ENSURE_TRUE(mozApp, NS_ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY);
NS_ADDREF(apps-data = mozApp);
}
return NS_OK;
}
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On 2009-04-06T23:21:54+00:00 Orion-cora wrote:
Similar to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=370380
Please try to implement a cross-desktop (xdg-* tool based?) solution.
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/34
On 2009-04-06T23:35:20+00:00 Jmathies wrote:
*** Bug 370380 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/comments/35
On 2009-04-07T19:39:01+00:00 Arromdee wrote:
Repeating my comment from the other bug since it doesn't sound like this
addresses it:
-- The list of content types can't be modified, even to add something
identified only by file extension. I just ran into this when trying to get a
.ssa file. Firefox tried to open it and couldn't (not surprising). There's no
way to add file with extension ssa to the content type list, and I have no
idea whatsoever whether Firefox thinks it has a mime type or is just treating
it as unknown.
-- On that subject, there's no entry for unknown content type (at least on my
machine). Want to tell Firefox to save all files with an unknown content type?
Forget it.
-- There's no way to tell Firefox whether to determine content type by
extension first or by Mime type sent by the server first. I recently tried to
open a PDF file whose content type Firefox seemed to think was BIN. There was
no way to tell Firefox that the .PDF in the filename takes precedence over the
bogus Mime type sent by the server.
-- There's usually no option open in browser. I want to tell Firefox to open
text files in Firefox. Can't do that.
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On 2009-04-17T09:06:20+00:00 E-michel-n wrote:
Created attachment 373282
Removes file association mechanism of firefox and use xdg-open instead
Hi,
I've made a small patch in order to progress on this issue. It removes
Firefox file system associations and forces use of xdg-open. I do not think
this patch is complete since it's not cross-platform, but I really think it's a
good step in order to solve this problem.
There's already a file association mechanism on a Linux Desktop environments
(Gnome, Kde, Xfce, Lxde, etc, etc).
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
It looks to me like the issue here is that the Mozilla team in the past was unwilling to implement anything that wasn't cross platform. I haven't worked with GTK myself but it looks like the new version 3.0 contains features that may just finally resolve this issue. See: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.0/GtkAppChooser.html and http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.0/GtkAppChooserDialog.html Now the problem is convincing the Mozilla to upgrade to the new API (I would expect this to be the big challenge here) and use this new feature. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Timothy, Thanks for the concern. I've moved on from this issue, but good luck to anyone trying to resolve it. Chrome solves my needs AND opens PDFs out of the box on all the platforms I am interested in. kind regards Eivind Throndsen 2011/7/27 Timothy Fridey 18...@bugs.launchpad.net It looks to me like the issue here is that the Mozilla team in the past was unwilling to implement anything that wasn't cross platform. I haven't worked with GTK myself but it looks like the new version 3.0 contains features that may just finally resolve this issue. See: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.0/GtkAppChooser.html and http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.0/GtkAppChooserDialog.html Now the problem is convincing the Mozilla to upgrade to the new API (I would expect this to be the big challenge here) and use this new feature. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to a duplicate bug report (232046). https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Confirmed Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Confirmed Status in NULL Project: Invalid Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “firefox-3.0” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Status in “firefox-3.5” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Status in “mozilla-thunderbird” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When choosing to open a file in Firefox, an Open With dialog appears. You can choose to save the file or open it with a program from the list. However, if the desired program to open the file with is NOT listed, the user must navigate the filesystem to /usr/bin (or wherever) and select the appropriate program. A more user-friendly way would be to list all of the known programs installed that are available to open files with, and then have an Other... or Advanced... button for the user who would rather navigate the filesystem. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/18995/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Okay..its 10th May 2011 and I am running 10.04 Kubuntu on amd64 laptop...been facing this problem lately really half a decade to fix this bug?...really wow. I've been using (K)Ubuntu from intrepid daysand this bug appears all of a sudden and I had to reinstall(like many others) the whole OS just because this bug still exists.reinstalling FF doesn't help either...c'mon guys we love firefox...fix this damn bug Gurusdon't push us over to chrome...plzzz cheers!! Venky -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 Title: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox Importance: Unknown = Medium -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Confirmed -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Also affects: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Tags added: patch-forwarded-upstream -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@coren Good it will be excellent if the integrated for Ubuntu(Gnome) to! -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Note that other GTK applications, such as OpenOffice.org, currently use the KDE file chooser dialogues in KDE as of Karmic. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@dotancohen: OpenOffice.org is not a GTK+ application, and no, GTK+ applications do not use the KDE file chooser in Karmic. OpenOffice.org got its own port of the file chooser and Qt-based styling. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I have checked and you are right, Yuriy. OOo is not a GTK application. I apologize for the misinformation. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Do you think it's fixed in the next release of ubuntu with firefox 3.6? Now the opensuse project have a solutions for kde4 http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp5bX_NV6k -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
caberg a écrit : Do you think it's fixed in the next release of ubuntu with firefox 3.6? Now the opensuse project have a solutions for kde4 http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/FirefoxIntegration http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp5bX_NV6k It has begun to be integrated into Kubuntu, thanks to Anthony Mercatante. It should be much better. Regards, -- Loiseleur Michel Responsable de l'OSSA Linagora / 27, rue de Berri / 75008 PARIS Tel/Fax : 01 58 18 68 28 / 01 58 18 68 29 http://www.08000linux.com/ | http://www.tosca-project.net Ce n'est pas le logiciel qui est libre, c'est vous -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Related bug in Debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi- bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354220 ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #354220 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354220 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Moving tracking to Firefox 3.5. ** Also affects: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: firefox-3.5 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Firefox 3.0 is only receiving Security Updates and major bug fixes at this point. ** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@ktulu77 : I have forgotten the MarkMail URL in my previous post: http://markmail.org/message/mcarb3i4gg5hcvm3#query:+page:1+mid:qxaeqv22o3pkzgvx+state:results. On Nautilus 2.26.2, on Jaunty, I don't have the two tabs. Strange. You will not be happy, because you're right. First, the freedesktop project doesn't provide (yet?) a dialog for 'Open with'. Second, the 'Open with' dialog is hardwired in Nautilus and could not easily be extracted. The native 'Open with' dialog from a Firefox extension seems then to be a harsh part. About xdg-open, I don't understand the benefit of that compared to the existing code. When you download a type of file from Firefox that you have never open yet, it already automatically proposes, in the dropdown list 'Open with', the associated system application. What the use of this patch with xdg-open in this case because it seems the function is already here? -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@PomCompot : The function is already there under Gnome, with firefox-3.0-gnome-support package. But it do not inherit preferences from the desktop and it do not work for other Desktop Environment. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@PomCompot Ok thank your for your response. You are right, if I modify in Nautilus the application which opens a PDF file for example, Firefox will use this application to open PDF files by default (unless I have configured firefox to open it with another application). So Firefox already uses xdg-open by default. The thing we need is the Nautilus (or desktop environment) dialog to choose the application because the firefox one is not userfriendly. If this dialog is hardwired in Nautilus, I don't think we can do something easily with a plugin to fix this. It would be even better if this function is supported by the freedesktop project. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@Coren: Thanks Coren, it makes things clearer. Your patch is then needed (solving a first problem, without solving the 'Open with' one, but it's better than nothing). @ktulu77: In the Gmome mailing list (MarkMail) I referenced, there are two points of view : - extraction from Nautilus and integration in GTK, - keep in Nautilus with a DBus functionality to access it from other apps. I'll try to summarize some points of the MarkMail conversation. It seems that some applications have already developed their own native 'Open with' clone dialog or something approaching (EOG, gThumb with context menu listing). Evince, Epiphany seems also waiting for such a solution. Thunar has already made something available to external apps through DBus. This conversation seems to have ended on May 2008 and not being alive since. Would be interesting contacting authors to know if they have made some developments on this. The point is that we have 3 places talking of the same problem : this Launchpad bug report specifically targeting Firefox (and Thunderbird), the Firefox Bugzilla bug report and the Gnome mailing list. The problem is clearly beyond Firefox, even though it is affected and must be corrected. Every application could expect to have an easy access to an 'Open with' applications listing through a GUI (GTK component) or a returned applications list. In my opinion, it's something common to all desktop environments and though could be a FreeDesktop specification. The correction of this bug in the one hundred paper cuts seems unreachable if it involves modification of the GTK lib or/and the creation and the implementation of a FreeDesktop spec, but we could at least found an agreement on the way to reach such a solution. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Yes I think it is unreachable for the one hundred paper cuts project. This bug is clearer for me now. A freedesktop spec would be great. There is several solutions : * a spec to open an open with dialog, according to a mime type * a spec to get informations about applications that can open a mime type. Then an application could display these applications the way it wants. See the manual of xdg-mime, this command could be extended to have such informations for points 2. I think this could resolve our problems. On first comment on this bug : A more user-friendly way would be to list all of the known programs installed that are available to open files with - Second point Other... or Advanced... button - First point -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
This subject has, of course, already been talked on FreeDesktop. No exactly from this point of view, but for setting up a consensus on the best way to conceive the MIME database. It seems that Gnome and KDE have both common and specific ways of handling that. I will not enter in the details because I don't want to make technical mistakes. Speaking for Gnome (taken from http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2008-January/009111.html), each folder which contain .desktop files, also maintains two other files : defaults.list which list default associations, and mimeinfo.cache which list all applications link to a MIME type. You find examples in /usr/share/applications/. You find also a defaults.list file in /etc/gnome/. Those file are system level settings. Then, there is the MIME database which is well described here: http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/mimetypes- database.html.en. xdg-mime could have a new parameter to retrieve all registered applications for a MIME type. The x...@lists.freedesktop.org seems to be the best place for talking about that. There are 4 (or 5) complementary steps to provide a consistent experience to the user: - 1: call xdg-open or xdg-mime to get the default registered application, - 2: call (a non existing) xdg-mime list to get all registered applications for a MIME type for a short listing of available applications, - 3: find another way to get all the application with .desktop files installed on the computer for a complete listing of available applications, (- 4 (optional): get relevant applications available from synaptic for this task (would be great but difficult),) - 5: in an advanced mode, propose a field to enter an application path (could be a way for preferably access the paths stored in the $PATH variable. Would be great to have here the knowledge of concerned people, I mean, Gnome dev and FreeDesktop active subscribers on the subject. This is highly too much technical to be embraced so simply. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I don't know all the details, but the default page in Firefox is simply a configuration option No, that configuration option was removed sometime in 2004: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269664 I agree that the patch should be applied upstream, however, that does not mean that Ubuntu cannot apply the patch to Firefox distributed with Ubuntu until the Mozilla folks get around to fixing the issue. The Mozilla public bugtracker is generally ignored in developing Mozilla products, especially in regards to new feature requests or non-crasher bugs. Very few new Firefox or Thunderbird features started off as Bugzilla RFEs, and very rarely does an RFE or non-crasher / non-security bug get fixed. We will be waiting a long time to see the fix implemented in Firefox, if ever. If this were a Zim or KDE bug, I would agree that waiting for upstream to apply the patch would be reasonable. But Mozilla? Nobody with experience filing bugs on Mozilla products would hold their breath waiting for Mozilla to fix a non-crasher / non-security bug. In Mozilla's defence, security issues are dealt with _fast_ and I give them all the credit in the world for their dedication to keeping the browser secure. ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #269664 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269664 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
There is no way to fix this bug with a firefox extension ? There is already some extensions which modify the way to open a file (as said KillerKiwi). This is a very important issue for the desktop usability. Basically, what do we need ? What is the command to call with the downloaded file as argument ? -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:51 +, dotancohen kubu...@dotancohen.com wrote: I don't know all the details, but the default page in Firefox is simply a configuration option No, that configuration option was removed sometime in 2004: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269664 Technically, Multisearch is implemented as an extension. You can disable it if you like. But this is a straw man; if you want to argue about a different bug, please don't do that here. I was hoping somebody from the Ubuntu Mozilla team would weigh in with a proper explanation of why the Firefox core cannot be patched, and under what circumstances -- if any -- this policy can be deviated from. But maybe that's a different bug, too. LP #411306 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@ktulu77 : As you can see in my patch, the command to call is xdg- open. It provides a unified way to open a file from the 3 major Desktop Environments (Gnome, KDE, XFCE). I hope to have the time to put it in an extension, it would make it more maintenable since Mozilla Ubuntu do not agree on how to fix this issue. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@Coren : Ok thank you. If I have some time, I will try to make a firefox extension but I have never done that before. I have a question, with xdg-open, it opens the file with the default system app. But, if we want to open it with another app, is it possible to display the Gnome UI Open With ? For example, on the firefox open with window, we could have : * Save As ... * Open with default application (xdg-open) * Open with another application (??? - opens Gnome Open With dialog, or Desktop environment Open With dialog if possible) Of course, the checkbox Do that automatically next time would remain the same. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@ktulu : That's not really possible, ATM, because there's no cross-linux desktop API to make things like this. It would requires firefox to be linked to Gnome, KDE and others desktops' libs. That strikes in front the policy of being a cross-platform browser : it's clearly not an option for Firefox. That's probably why they have implemented their own, in Firefox 3. Maybe it was a good idea, but the result clearly sucks, with Kde users forced to go in /usr/bin/ in order to open a file. From a Linux integrator point of view, it has REALLY complicated the work to do. BTW, the open with thing is more for power user (20 %). I don't know for you, but people around me are used to double clic on a file to open it, not right clic - Open With. I was told Ubuntu was for normal user (80 %), those who do not even understand what a software or a file is, who see computer like an advanced Mp3 Player, but maybe it was just a rumor... -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On 08/10/2009 05:32 AM, Coren wrote: @ktulu77 : As you can see in my patch, the command to call is xdg- open. It provides a unified way to open a file from the 3 major Desktop Environments (Gnome, KDE, XFCE). I hope to have the time to put it in an extension, it would make it more maintenable since Mozilla Ubuntu do not agree on how to fix this issue. I have already explained this. it is a major hunk of code that needs to be modified please see both upstream bugs i have pointed out for more info. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from Unforgiven III -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@Coren If it is not possible, what is the goal of this bug ? I understood the problem was the open with dialog which is not user friendly when we want to choose the app we want to use to open the file. If there is no cross-linux desktop API, then perhaps we can cheat and detect the desktop environment with the extension, or perhaps, make it configurable in the addon configuration window. The point is mozilla is not going to resolve this problem until a lot of time, so instead of waiting for that, we could create a quick and dirty fix with a firefox addon. @John Vivirito Sorry, but this bug is huge and it is difficult to see the main informations. Perhaps a blueprint would be better ? -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Hi all Are you aware of freedesktop.org and specifically the Portland subproject? It's a joint GNOME/KDE project to promote better application desktop integration and seems to have a fairly good momentum. http://portland.freedesktop.org/wiki/ http://portland.freedesktop.org/xdg-utils-1.0/xdg-mime.html http://portland.freedesktop.org/xdg-utils-1.0/xdg-open.html Kind regards, Eivind -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Coren and me were talking about a command-line to open the desktop open with dialog. xdg-open just opens the file with the default application. We need a command-line which open the open with dialog, to be able to choose the application we want to use. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
But this is a straw man; if you want to argue about a different bug, please don't do that here. I was giving an example of inconsistent decisions. I really do not care about that other bug. If there is no cross-linux desktop API, then perhaps we can cheat and detect the desktop environment with the extension, or perhaps, make it configurable in the addon configuration window. There is, xdg-open is made just for this. I have a question, with xdg-open, it opens the file with the default system app. But, if we want to open it with another app, is it possible to display the Gnome UI Open With ? That is bug #232046: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/232046 It was marked as a dupe of this bug. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On 08/10/2009 08:41 AM, ktulu77 wrote: @Coren If it is not possible, what is the goal of this bug ? I understood the problem was the open with dialog which is not user friendly when we want to choose the app we want to use to open the file. If there is no cross-linux desktop API, then perhaps we can cheat and detect the desktop environment with the extension, or perhaps, make it configurable in the addon configuration window. The point is mozilla is not going to resolve this problem until a lot of time, so instead of waiting for that, we could create a quick and dirty fix with a firefox addon. @John Vivirito Sorry, but this bug is huge and it is difficult to see the main informations. Perhaps a blueprint would be better ? This bug is huge does not really mean anything to everyone, This bug is something people want fixed would be better. Now as i have explained this bug is a major code change and that is why upstream is applying it. This is not a Show stopper it is a feature request. Upstream has alot of work to do until it can be added. As i recall someone asked for this to block xulrunner 1.9.2 (firefox-3.6) We are a long way before that will be stable so they have time. There is a hacked patched attached to one of the bugs upstream. Hacked patches are not something we will add either way. once a final patch is in place we will have it in our build (3.6 or later) this will not be added to anything 3.6 more than likely since it is such a massive change. For more info please see upstream bugs. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from Unforgiven III -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Sorry for my bad english, I wanted to say that there is a lot of messages here and it is difficult to see the important informations. I understand this can be a hard work to be fixed upstream. I was thinking, as Coren said, that we could do a small firefox addon, while this bug is being fixed by mozilla. The open with dialog I was speaking about is shown on the image I have attached with this comment. I don't think we can open it with freedesktop commands like xdg. A better window would be the tab open with on the properties dialog of a file, but it seems more complicated to implement ... Anyway, if you think we cannot do a workaround with a firefox addon, I give up. I don't know how to do it anyway. ** Attachment added: open_with.jpg http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30113983/open_with.jpg -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@ktulu77 : From where di you get this 'Open with' dialog with two tabs 'Installed applications' and 'Available applications'? Is it in the Karmik alpha? I personaly doesn't have such a dialog. I'm new on this bug, but wondering technically what prevent an extension from replacing the 'Open with' dialog. I mean, could be straight use the default dialog of gnome or is there a need of specific XUL dev? Far over, I know this is not such trivial as my comment could let think. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On 08/10/2009 11:11 AM, PomCompot wrote: @ktulu77 : From where di you get this 'Open with' dialog with two tabs 'Installed applications' and 'Available applications'? Is it in the Karmik alpha? I personaly doesn't have such a dialog. I'm new on this bug, but wondering technically what prevent an extension from replacing the 'Open with' dialog. I mean, could be straight use the default dialog of gnome or is there a need of specific XUL dev? Far over, I know this is not such trivial as my comment could let think. If someone wants to take the time to build an .xpi of an extension feel free however the Ubuntu-mozillateam has alot more to work on that are more important than a new extension. If you submit an extension here we will be glad to review it and add it somewhere if not in repos. We would love an ETA on upstream fix but we can not get that at this stage due to the code changes that need to be made. I dont want to add an extension to repos if this will be fixed by release in Karmic -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from Unforgiven III -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:11 PM, PomCompot pomme_compote-launch...@yahoo.fr wrote: @ktulu77 : From where di you get this 'Open with' dialog with two tabs 'Installed applications' and 'Available applications'? It's part of the standard Gnome desktop as far as I know: * In Nautilus, right click and select 'Open With'. * Select 'Open With Other Application'. -- Lars Rune Nøstdal http://nostdal.org/ -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Have found this thread on MarkMail speaking of the exactly same problem with another point of view (extracting the 'Open with' dialog from the libnautilus to be usable elsewhere). -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I am on Debian Lenny and Nautilus 2.20. Just right click on a file, and go to open with ... Open with another application. I have just noticed that in the tab available applications, I have listed just the applications which can open the file. For example, on a PDF file, I have KPDF, KGhostView, ... (See attachment) It seems to be exactly the dialog we need, but with this tab opened by default, not the one with all the installed applications. It seems that this dialog cannot be opened with the freedesktop project. I'll be happy if i'm wrong. ** Attachment added: open_with_tab2.jpg http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30117068/open_with_tab2.jpg -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Project changed: hundredpapercuts = null -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I do not understand. Ubuntu has no problem patching Firefox [1] to show a Google search page, but cannot patch Firefox to use the proper Open With dialogue? [1] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1219501 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@dotancohen: I don't know all the details, but the default page in Firefox is simply a configuration option, not a patch that changes or replaces a significant amount of code. What (I think) the Ubuntu developers want is that the Mozilla/Firefox developers either include this into Firefox and/or provide a standard way to plug in different open with dialogs. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
@David Siegel: For those of us arriving late, could you point to documentation which explains why adding the patch to the Ubuntu build is not an option? Upstream is solving a significantly harder problem, that is, implementing everything in a uniform way across diverse platforms. Ubuntu does not have that problem, and the available patch seems to solve the less general problem for Ubuntu quite nicely. (Haven't tried it, but see nothing to indicate the opposite.) -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
On 08/08/2009 03:51 AM, era wrote: @David Siegel: For those of us arriving late, could you point to documentation which explains why adding the patch to the Ubuntu build is not an option? Upstream is solving a significantly harder problem, that is, implementing everything in a uniform way across diverse platforms. Ubuntu does not have that problem, and the available patch seems to solve the less general problem for Ubuntu quite nicely. (Haven't tried it, but see nothing to indicate the opposite.) This is more than something that we want to patch. We dont patch features we let upstream handle that since it is not a trivial. Implementing a KDE solution is important since KDE users use Firefox this is not something we should leave out. This is one big reason why we have upstream apply feature changes to upstream code. Its always best to keep patches to a minimum if possible. if we apply that patch we will have to remove it once it is implemented. Also there is more than one bug that uses the same code section, so applying this one is not something they would like until the patch is updated for all peices of code. This will be implemented for Xulrunner-1.9.2 + Firefox-3.6 as it looks atm. -- Sincerely Yours, John Vivirito https://launchpad.net/~gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JohnVivirito Linux User# 414246 How can i get lost, if i have no where to go -- Metallica from Unforgiven III -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
Patch looks good, but it's not trivial for us to apply it -- would require much testing, and, more importantly, upstream acceptance. Not a paper cut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: round-5 = None -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
David others, As the original reporter of this UX issue I have to say that this surprises me. If this is not a trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter on his/her first day of using a brand new installation of the latest version of Ubuntu Desktop Edition., then nothing is. It appers you are rejecting a perfectly valid fix to a significant usability issue because of technicalities. That the patch may require work to apply, some testing work and work to accept upstream are not in my opinion good arguments to reject what is essentially a giant stumbling stone for the use and acceptance of the biggest Open Source browser on Linux by non-geeks. I'm disappointed by that. Just my 2 cents. Kind regards, Eivind Throndsen 2009/8/7 David Siegel david.sie...@canonical.com Patch looks good, but it's not trivial for us to apply it -- would require much testing, and, more importantly, upstream acceptance. Not a paper cut. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: round-5 = None -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of a duplicate bug. Status in The Mozilla Firefox Browser: Confirmed Status in One Hundred Paper Cuts: Invalid Status in “firefox-3.0” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “mozilla-thunderbird” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: When choosing to open a file in Firefox, an Open With dialog appears. You can choose to save the file or open it with a program from the list. However, if the desired program to open the file with is NOT listed, the user must navigate the filesystem to /usr/bin (or wherever) and select the appropriate program. A more user-friendly way would be to list all of the known programs installed that are available to open files with, and then have an Other... or Advanced... button for the user who would rather navigate the filesystem. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
The bug is not being rejected. I pushed hard to get it through today, but the upstream bug has been around for 4(?) years and we are blocking on Mozilla on this one -- please express your disappointment in the upstream bug report. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I'm not a programmer so I don't have anything productive to add to this discussion, I just want to say that this bug is important to me. I dread the moment when downloading a file in Firefox and the associated application I want to open with isn't in the drop down list. I've been using Ubuntu more than 2 years now and still have lots of trouble locating the application I want. It is a big problem for me, and likely for any non-programmer user who ever downloads files in Firefox. Thanks everyone for your hard work. -Chris -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I add this , when the open dialog is for seeking a type of files , it should show the extention of the needed file (the current one filters the files but it doesn't show the extention , which made the task somehow more difficult and boring) -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
An extension that shows how to alter the open with dialogue https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8207 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None = round-5 -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
I flagged some other launchpad as duplicate of the current one. As reported in one of the duplicates (LP #232046) : This can be smoothly resolved in the mean time if Firefox is shipped with different defaults, namely to have xdg-open available as an option for all file types (which I believe is possible) and to have every file type which is not to be viewed internally instead opened using /usr/bin/xdg-open. If possible, have xdg-open named Default application or some such in Firefox, so that something like the download method dialog says Open with [default application]. Because it has an easy solution and it will greatly ease general user experience, I agree with Mat that it should be promoted as the hundredpapercuts project. I guess it can be done in the ubufox extension. -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New = Confirmed -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 18995] Re: [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly
** Changed in: firefox Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- [MASTER] Open With dialog not user-friendly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/18995 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
