[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I don't know if anybody cares about another vote in favour of uswsusp but after spending a couple of hours trying to make suspend work again after upgrading to Intrepid from Feisty (via Hardy) I was only able to make it work by using uswsusp on HP nw8000 notebook. Removing uswsusp from Ubuntu would make it completely useless on this machine (it's already on a good way after somehow dropping support for its videocard in fglrx which worked without problems for 4 years...). The ideological purity of kernel-based suspend is all very nice but some of us want to suspend their notebook *now*, not in a couple of years. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
If kernel suspend doesn't work on your hardware, please file a separate bug report against the linux package. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I've reinstalled uswsusp, let it reconfigure with default settings. $ cat /etc/uswsusp.conf # /etc/uswsusp.conf(8) -- Configuration file for s2disk/s2both resume device = /dev/sda2 compress = y early writeout = y image size = 1910240542 RSA key file = /etc/uswsusp.key shutdown method = platform Edited /etc/pm/config.d/00sleep_module : $ cat /etc/pm/config.d/00sleep_module # The sleep/wake system to use. Valid values are: # kernelThe built-in kernel suspend/resume support. # Use this if nothing else is supported on your system. # uswsusp If your system has support for the userspace # suspend programs (s2ram/s2disk/s2both), then use this. # tuxonice If your system has support for tuxonice, use this. # # The system defaults to kernel if this is commented out. # SLEEP_MODULE=kernel SLEEP_MODULE=uswsusp 1st tried uswsusp, and my system hibernated as expected with s2disk. It took a while (just about as regular hibernation) but the progress % was nice. Resume worked too. Then I tried tuxonice, but it failed to halt the machine. alt+sysreq[+fn]+b rebooted my system, so Kernel was still active. Resume worked fine, once again. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I read the thread, and I like James' latest patch (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18377887/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.diff) a lot, too. I'm going to sponsor it now, thanks to all for working on this! -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
This bug was fixed in the package pm-utils - 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu7 --- pm-utils (1.1.2.4-1ubuntu7) intrepid; urgency=low * Drop debian/patches/10-sleep-module-auto-detection.patch as we don't want to use uswsusp unless the user explicitly chooses it. (LP: #267141) * Add an example file /etc/pm/config.d/00sleep_module that shows the user how to change the sleep module in use, for instance if they want to enable uswsusp. -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:28:19 +0100 ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu Intrepid) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 10:26 +, James Westby wrote: Hi, I am aware of the issue, and I think the others are too. I would actually lean towards removing uswsusp from the archive, if we don't want people to use it, and we make it very difficult to do so, then having it in the archive is just a cause of confusion in my opinion. Enabling s2ram would allow it to work, yes, but then we have to deal with two sources of problems, when it's not immediately clear which method the user is using, and it doesn't help to get the kernel method fixed, which should be able to work for everybody. Thanks, James Basically you're saying keep it broken until the long term fix comes out? Whatever happened to freedom of choice? By leaving uswsusp broken in this manner, it forces users who would choose to use uswsusp to just use the kernel method. And I prefer uswsusp over the kernel method for hibernating because the kernel method takes an incredibly long time for resuming from hibernation, which is around the same amount of time taken for starting up the computer. Until the kernel method gets up to speed, why not at least allow users to use uswsusp? I can already picture this conversation happening somewhere in the world: A: Ubuntu takes so long to hibernate and resume! Why?! B: Because Ubuntu uses the kernel method for hibernating which doesn't involve compression. A: Well, can I use another method to make it faster? B: Yeah, there's uswsusp, but you can't use it because the Ubuntu devs don't want you to. A: Why don't they want me to? B: Ask them. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 08:09 +, Martin Pitt wrote: I read the thread, and I like James' latest patch (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18377887/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.diff) a lot, too. I'm going to sponsor it now, thanks to all for working on this! I've mentioned this before, but I'd like to reiterate that with the above patch, pm-utils will not be able to use suspend at all when uswsusp is chosen instead of kernel, using the example which has been dropped in /etc/pm/config.d. Could something be done about this? Perhaps re-enable s2ram in uswsusp, since it isn't going to be the default anyway? Or perhaps mix and match the patches (remove the autodetection code and default to kernel, but patch pm/module.d/uswsusp to fall back on kernel for check_suspend and do_suspend)? -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Olá hyperair e a todos. On Wednesday 15 October 2008 11:48:55 hyperair wrote: A: Ubuntu takes so long to hibernate and resume! Why?! B: Because Ubuntu uses the kernel method for hibernating which doesn't involve compression. A: Well, can I use another method to make it faster? B: Yeah, there's uswsusp, but you can't use it because the Ubuntu devs don't want you to. Will this patch make my hibernate/resume faster? That's all I want to know -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi, I am aware of the issue, and I think the others are too. I would actually lean towards removing uswsusp from the archive, if we don't want people to use it, and we make it very difficult to do so, then having it in the archive is just a cause of confusion in my opinion. Enabling s2ram would allow it to work, yes, but then we have to deal with two sources of problems, when it's not immediately clear which method the user is using, and it doesn't help to get the kernel method fixed, which should be able to work for everybody. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 11:26 +, BUGabundo wrote: Olá hyperair e a todos. On Wednesday 15 October 2008 11:48:55 hyperair wrote: A: Ubuntu takes so long to hibernate and resume! Why?! B: Because Ubuntu uses the kernel method for hibernating which doesn't involve compression. A: Well, can I use another method to make it faster? B: Yeah, there's uswsusp, but you can't use it because the Ubuntu devs don't want you to. Will this patch make my hibernate/resume faster? That's all I want to know -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net If uswsusp supports your system and uswsusp is configured properly (last time you asked me about uswsusp, your /etc/uswsusp.conf wasn't correct), then yes. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 09:20 +, James Westby wrote: On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 01:51 +, hyperair wrote: The config file you dropped in /etc/pm/config.d looks a tad bit like a block of code taken out of /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults. Doesn't that seem a little redundant? I mean, that particular functionality can be gotten by just modifying the SLEEP_MODULE in the file I mentioned above. Hi, Yes, that's where it is taken from. You can't edit /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults, as your changes would just be overwritten on upgrades. Thanks, James Ah yes, that's a good point. Then wouldn't it be a good idea to remove the block from /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults? Having it in two places is redundant and can cause confusion. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
note that the dependency currently breaks the ubuntu-mobile image since that is built from universe. getting this dependency revmoved asap would be really appreciated, as we dont get proper feedback about suspend issues on UMPCs and netbooks due to uswsusp being installed by default atm. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 01:51 +, hyperair wrote: The config file you dropped in /etc/pm/config.d looks a tad bit like a block of code taken out of /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults. Doesn't that seem a little redundant? I mean, that particular functionality can be gotten by just modifying the SLEEP_MODULE in the file I mentioned above. Hi, Yes, that's where it is taken from. You can't edit /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults, as your changes would just be overwritten on upgrades. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, 2008-10-10 at 10:15 +, hyperair wrote: Ah yes, that's a good point. Then wouldn't it be a good idea to remove the block from /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults? Having it in two places is redundant and can cause confusion. Perhaps. It does say at the top of the file Do not edit this file, create a file in /etc/pm/config.d/ instead. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi, Attached is the updated patch to add the example file in /etc/pm/config.d/ Thanks for working on the alternative patch, it has helped me to understand the issues better. I have just posted a message on the ubuntu-devel mailing list asking for opinions on re-enabling s2ram if my patch is applied here, as users will have to make an explicit choice to use it. How would you feel about that solution? Note that it's not guaranteed to happen for Intrepid. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18377887/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.diff -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
The config file you dropped in /etc/pm/config.d looks a tad bit like a block of code taken out of /usr/lib/pm-utils/defaults. Doesn't that seem a little redundant? I mean, that particular functionality can be gotten by just modifying the SLEEP_MODULE in the file I mentioned above. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Thank you so much Milligan. That fix my problem, and now I have suspend and hibernation again. Suspend is a bit slower than it used to. So, any tips on how to do compress images, so hibernation takes just a few secs, instead of 45 sec? -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I'm sorry to say that I don't think upgrading pm-utils to the new upstream version is a viable option for intrepid. Backporting a targeted fix may be, if someone wants to look into the code differences; but I think we should consider other fixes in the meantime, even if they end up being short-term. Of the two patches available, I'm afraid I'm not happy at all with hyperair's, which adds nearly 100% code duplication of the existing uswsusp method; that's not at all elegant or maintainable. James' patch, while making it more awkward to enable uswsusp, does address the core of this bug, which is that users should not lose the suspend method by having uswsusp installed. Being able to use uswsusp, which is a far-from-preferred method in Ubuntu, is very much secondary. So I think James' patch is the correct basis on which to move this bug forward. James, it's been mentioned that dropping a file in /etc/pm/config.d with the sleep method is enough to let users enable uswusp. Perhaps we should patch pm-utils to ship a file under /etc/pm/config.d by default, with commented examples of how to enable the alternate suspend methods? I don't believe that installation of the uswsusp package (or tuxonice support in the kernel) should cause these methods to be used automatically, given their non-preferred status within Ubuntu, so an example file seems best to me. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 07:46 +, Steve Langasek wrote: I'm sorry to say that I don't think upgrading pm-utils to the new upstream version is a viable option for intrepid. Backporting a targeted fix may be, if someone wants to look into the code differences; but I think we should consider other fixes in the meantime, even if they end up being short-term. Of the two patches available, I'm afraid I'm not happy at all with hyperair's, which adds nearly 100% code duplication of the existing uswsusp method; that's not at all elegant or maintainable. I agree that there is a lot of code duplication. I'll see if I can do anything about this later today. James' patch, while making it more awkward to enable uswsusp, does address the core of this bug, which is that users should not lose the suspend method by having uswsusp installed. Being able to use uswsusp, which is a far-from-preferred method in Ubuntu, is very much secondary. So I think James' patch is the correct basis on which to move this bug forward. James, it's been mentioned that dropping a file in /etc/pm/config.d with the sleep method is enough to let users enable uswusp. Perhaps we should patch pm-utils to ship a file under /etc/pm/config.d by default, with commented examples of how to enable the alternate suspend methods? I don't believe that installation of the uswsusp package (or tuxonice support in the kernel) should cause these methods to be used automatically, given their non-preferred status within Ubuntu, so an example file seems best to me. Actually, something I realized while I was making my patch is that uswsusp is that dropping a file in /etc/pm/config.d, presumably containing 'SLEEP_MODULE=uswsusp' will make this bug resurface, since this setting will cause uswsusp to be used for check_suspend and do_suspend as well, unless of course, the build of s2ram is re-enabled in uswsusp. Hence it's not just more awkward to enable uswsusp, it involves a few setbacks that can only be fixed by making the same invasive changes (unless there's a better approach) as the patch I've made. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Here it is. No more code duplication. -- Chow Loong Jin ** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.debdiff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18328797/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu6.debdiff -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 18:25 +, dlgandalf wrote: so how do I apply these debdiffs? do I need to uninstall uswswap? adding the kernel option in /etc/pm/config.d/ doesn't work what I'm trying to ask is, a small step by step for someone who has lost track due to all the jargon like: s2ram, uswswap, kernel suspend. But does want a suspending machine :) debdiffs are for those who know how to use them, or for reviewing by those who are going to fix the bug. If you're just looking for a quick fix on your machine, then removing uswsusp will do the trick. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
so how do I apply these debdiffs? do I need to uninstall uswswap? adding the kernel option in /etc/pm/config.d/ doesn't work what I'm trying to ask is, a small step by step for someone who has lost track due to all the jargon like: s2ram, uswswap, kernel suspend. But does want a suspending machine :) -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I feel like this is already intrinsically disruptive for any Ubuntu users who try to use it - I'd like to see, at minimum, the above patch go in. Ideally, I'd like to see 1.2.2.1 - this was certainly disruptive for me, as a user, when I upgraded and found my suspend button missing; since hibernate doesn't work on my laptop, this left me SOL. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I can't suspend on Lenovo Thinkpad X200 with Intel GMA X4500. Have this problem been fixed yet? Or will it be fixed for final release? -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Okay, since pm-utils got upgraded to ubuntu4, I've created a new debdiff for the time being, which I've attached. Would it be a good idea to at least get this uploaded now, and then continue considering whether or not we should upgrade to 1.2.2.1? -- Chow Loong Jin ** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu5.debdiff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18288395/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu5.debdiff -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
If you want to look at pulling the upstream package, start with 1.2.2.1 -- the previous 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 releases are buggy. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi, Thanks for working on this. Your patch looks sensible to me, however there was a new upstream release over the weekend, including this: * Sleep modules are stackable and have finegrained method detection. For instance, if you like s2disk but not s2ram, you can remove the s2ram binary and pm-utils will automatically fall back to using kernel methods for suspend/resume. so we should perphaps evaluate using the new upstream version, or backporting this fix to our current package. I plan to look at this soon. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:58 +, vlowther wrote: If you want to look at pulling the upstream package, start with 1.2.2.1 -- the previous 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 releases are buggy. Ah, I'd missed 1.2.2.1, thanks for the heads-up. I'm not sure whether going for this is the right idea, as opposed to back-porting the change quoted above, because I'm not sure the impact the auto-quirk change will have. Do you have any opinion on this? It's very late in the cycle to pull in something that could be potentially disruptive. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:16 +, James Westby wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:58 +, vlowther wrote: If you want to look at pulling the upstream package, start with 1.2.2.1 -- the previous 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 releases are buggy. Ah, I'd missed 1.2.2.1, thanks for the heads-up. I'm not sure whether going for this is the right idea, as opposed to back-porting the change quoted above, because I'm not sure the impact the auto-quirk change will have. Do you have any opinion on this? It's very late in the cycle to pull in something that could be potentially disruptive. Thanks, James I'll agree with you on that. But whatever it is, I'm against leaving it broken the way it is at the moment. Is there anybody in charge of pm-utils that we can subscribe to this bug? I don't think it's getting enough attention from the appropriate people, or at least, if they know or are subscribed, they don't seem to be paying much attention. -- Chow Loong Jin -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 13:05 +, hyperair wrote: I'll agree with you on that. But whatever it is, I'm against leaving it broken the way it is at the moment. I agree, and it's not going to stay broken. I was asking Victor what his opinion was; as he is the upstream author he knows the package better than anyone. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Michael Milligan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dpkg --purge uswsusp fixes the problem for me. After doing that and rebooting (update-initramfs is run), I have suspend back in the Gnome power manager and suspend works too. That fixes it for me too. -- Martin http://launchpad.net/~mbp/ -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 12:16 +, James Westby wrote: On Mon, 2008-10-06 at 11:58 +, vlowther wrote: If you want to look at pulling the upstream package, start with 1.2.2.1 -- the previous 1.2.1 and 1.2.2 releases are buggy. Ah, I'd missed 1.2.2.1, thanks for the heads-up. I didn't exactly go out of my way to announce it, more sort of mentinoed it in passing on a thread on the pm-utils mailing list. The actual announcement will come later tonight. I'm not sure whether going for this is the right idea, as opposed to back-porting the change quoted above, because I'm not sure the impact the auto-quirk change will have. Well, the whole 1.1 - 1.2 transition is fairly large, and most of the current debian patches will need to be rewritten or junked to work with it. I have been running it on my laptop since I started coding it, but I don't have much of an idea about who else has been -- feedback on the pm-utils list is sparse. My real feedback and testing mostly comes from debian sid, but the latest revisions have not been picked up by sid yet. The auto-quirk changes are actually not that invasive -- they will not affect anything when pm-utils is invoked bu HAL, for example, and all the actual auto-quirk code is contained in the 00auto-quirk hook. The auto backend stuff is much more invasive, but it was written to make these sorts of issues harder to create. The much more invasive thing is the hook reordering, but that will make suspend/resume seem to be much faster due to most of the time consuming parts of resume happening after we switch back to X or the active console. Do you have any opinion on this? It's very late in the cycle to pull in something that could be potentially disruptive. Well, it Works For Me (tm). If people are willing to test things out, 1.2.2.1 will be in debian experimental shortly, and the .deb itself should install seamlessly into Ubuntu. Thanks, James -- Victor Lowther Ubuntu Certified Professional -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I've worked on it a little, and managed to patch pm-utils to use kernel's do_suspend and check_suspend, as well as uswsusp for the rest (when auto-detected). The patch also makes sure that uswsusp's before_hooks only executes the commands in it when hibernating, and not when suspending. -- Chow Loong Jin ** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.debdiff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18236670/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.debdiff -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
dpkg --purge uswsusp fixes the problem for me. After doing that and rebooting (update-initramfs is run), I have suspend back in the Gnome power manager and suspend works too. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pakraticus wrote: People use uswsusp either because 1) It's legacy on a box that was upgraded from hardy to intrepid where uswsusp was installed for whatever reason. (How I encountered this). 2) They followed feisty or gutsy vintage instructions. 3) Their hardware does not work properly with the kernel sleep and hibernate modules for pm-utils. 4) hibernate/resume takes a long time using pm-utils, because it doesn't involve compression #1 and #2 could probably withstand applying the rolled up newspaper treatment to the user. Regarding #1, actually Hardy doesn't have uswsusp installed by default. #3 indicates attempting to conceal a defect in the pm-utils package and MAYBE it's worthwhile to report the defect in pm-utils. Perhaps so, but until pm-utils uses compression for hibernation, it's not going to get fixed. Right now the crux of the pm-utils defect is that it assumes that the module for hibernate should also be the module for sleep. On debian this makes sense as uswsusp provides both hibernate and sleep. This is a side effect of the revision of the pm-utils code to be more modular. Upstream should be notified of the problem in logic prior to distributing a fix for intrepid. (I apologize for switching between sleep and suspend... I'm trying to maintain the same inconsistancy as the pm-utils modules). I say fix it, test it, and submit the patch upstream at the same time. On Ubuntu this whole issue comes about from two things, one is the assumption that s2disk comes with s2ram, the other is the actions of the one who came up with the brilliant idea of disabling s2ram. And also, I agree that if we don't have s2ram even built in the uswsusp package, then we should at least have a separate package with just s2ram in it. Assuming s2ram is the right solution. At this point in the game, intrepid is alpha. The prescribed configuration is pm-utils without uswsusp. If pm-utils fails on suspend or hibernate with uswsusp on your hardware, the ubuntu developers need to know. This point does not make the assumption that s2ram is the right solution. This is about giving the user a choice. Now that uswsusp is only in Suggests and not in Recommends, apt-get autoremove should get rid of it right? I remember uswsusp wasn't installed in my Hardy installation, so users who upgrade from Hardy to Intrepid won't have a problem if we make sure the upgrade process doesn't install pm-utils. If you installed uswsusp to resolve a hibernate problem and uswsusp did, maybe the fix is to change the logic in pm-utils instead of bringing back s2ram. If the logic on pm-utils is improved to separate the configured module for sleep from module for hibernate, the long term solution might be for pm-utils to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists, uswsusp to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists, and tuxonice to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists and for pm-is-supported to provide a --verbose or --recommends flag that indicates which module is being used for suspend, hibernate, or suspend-hybrid, whether it was hard set or determined from absence from blacklists, and if it's blacklisted the next priority package. Sounds good, but it definitely won't get implemented in time for Intrepid, and leaving pm-utils broken in Intrepid is not a good idea. We need a short term solution as well, and I don't think removing uswsusp support from pm-utils completely is a good idea. - -- Hyperair -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3dFj4LFcUo8CpBERAgscAKCAa6PE8MyprGdnJM4JjF7ZcQV5SwCgzMVu l3SoPx3CeqGO7JwHjRl9WCM= =V39+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I'm personally against dropping the patch, for the following reasons: 1. This won't stop people who want to use uswsusp from using uswsusp. 2. If the user has installed uswsusp, then, since it's in universe, it should mean that the user has explicitly chosen to use it 3. Dropping the patch would make people who need/want to use uswsusp to rebuild pm-utils with the patch Matthew Garret disabled the s2ram build because many people decided to use uswsusp instead of reporting bugs in Ubuntu's default suspend code. This means that the rest of us who DO want to use s2ram cannot use it without rebuilding uswsusp. I don't like to put things too harshly, but my personal opinion about this is: this was a very stupid move, stepping around the matter rather than fixing it. If uswsusp broke stuff for some people, then ask them to remove it. Don't start messing up packages just because you feel like fixing stuff for people who wrongly installed a package that wasn't meant for them to begin with. I sincerely hope this doesn't carry to disabling s2disk as well, or just removing the entire uswsusp package altogether. The way I see it, there are two (acceptable) ways to go about fixing this whole matter: 1. Re-enable s2ram. If people complain things break, tell them to remove s2ram, and mark their bugs invalid. 2. Hack pm-utils code into not looking at s2ram. In both cases, I would recommend that uswsusp be dropped from Recommends to Suggests in pm-utils. Method #1 would reverse Matthew Garret's change, and, I believe is the right way to go about things. If we keep stepping around this matter, we'll eventually encounter a greater problem than this. In fact, this whole bug came from disabling s2ram in the first place. Method #2 would bring things back to how they were before ubuntu2. I wouldn't say it would bring things to how they were back in Hardy, because in Hardy, pm-utils looked for s2disk and s2ram in the wrong places (/usr/sbin instead of /sbin), and so uswsusp didn't work in Hardy anyway. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Westby wrote: On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:18 +, hyperair wrote: I'm personally against dropping the patch, for the following reasons: 1. This won't stop people who want to use uswsusp from using uswsusp. That's intentional, if people want to use uswsusp they can. Then don't disable s2ram. 2. If the user has installed uswsusp, then, since it's in universe, it should mean that the user has explicitly chosen to use it That's not true. I have it installed and I didn't choose to. pm-utils' presence in the default install and the moving of uswsusp to Suggests should prevent this happening though. Yes, that's the reason why I agree with shifting it to Suggests. 3. Dropping the patch would make people who need/want to use uswsusp to rebuild pm-utils with the patch I believe this is incorrect, adding a file to /etc/pm/config.d/ will allow them to use it. What file would this be? Also, it's a rather hackish method of getting something to work, considering most of Ubuntu's stuff is configured and enabled upon installation. This deviates from normal behaviour. Thanks, James - -- Hyperair -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3PpS4LFcUo8CpBERAvL/AJ482fxZlo/PgXSrXeMuzWFFn0irGgCdGpcY wU/u3xEcuZb8E8yOJu8XKj4= =Dbew -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 14:18 +, hyperair wrote: I'm personally against dropping the patch, for the following reasons: 1. This won't stop people who want to use uswsusp from using uswsusp. That's intentional, if people want to use uswsusp they can. 2. If the user has installed uswsusp, then, since it's in universe, it should mean that the user has explicitly chosen to use it That's not true. I have it installed and I didn't choose to. pm-utils' presence in the default install and the moving of uswsusp to Suggests should prevent this happening though. 3. Dropping the patch would make people who need/want to use uswsusp to rebuild pm-utils with the patch I believe this is incorrect, adding a file to /etc/pm/config.d/ will allow them to use it. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:52:34PM -, James Westby wrote: I believe this is incorrect, adding a file to /etc/pm/config.d/ will allow them to use it. Which could be supplied by uswsusp. Which could then be managed through debconf for uswsusp. And then there would be grounds to have a uswsusp-s2ram package that should probably nag and complain that the user really should open a bug against pm-utils if they must use the package. -- Chris Dukes In cynicism she's about 35 -- Terry Pratchett's Hog Father -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 pakraticus wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 02:52:34PM -, James Westby wrote: I believe this is incorrect, adding a file to /etc/pm/config.d/ will allow them to use it. Which could be supplied by uswsusp. Which could then be managed through debconf for uswsusp. And then there would be grounds to have a uswsusp-s2ram package that should probably nag and complain that the user really should open a bug against pm-utils if they must use the package. That would be a bad idea. If we want uswsusp to work with pm-utils by default (if uswsusp is installed) then no changes need to be done. But what James Westby and the rest of them want to do is allow uswsusp to be installed, and pm-utils doesn't use it unless you explicitly install AND enable it. Well this effect could be achieved better through the use of debconf, but honestly, too many prompts by debconf isn't pretty, and should be kept to a minimum. And also, I agree that if we don't have s2ram even built in the uswsusp package, then we should at least have a separate package with just s2ram in it. - -- Hyperair -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3SXM4LFcUo8CpBERAq16AJ43lYsGF1waxMC9d9e9lm+A7QACTwCfSkQF ifKMGBWXbAy4tSeLE1gSyT8= =dcix -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi, Attached is an updated patch that deletes the patch as well as not applying it, as requested by Steve. Thanks, James ** Attachment removed: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17976284/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff ** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17987215/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 06:11:24PM -, hyperair wrote: That would be a bad idea. If we want uswsusp to work with pm-utils by default (if uswsusp is installed) then no changes need to be done. But what James Westby and the rest of them want to do is allow uswsusp to be installed, and pm-utils doesn't use it unless you explicitly install AND enable it. Well this effect could be achieved better through the use of debconf, but honestly, too many prompts by debconf isn't pretty, and should be kept to a minimum. People use uswsusp either because 1) It's legacy on a box that was upgraded from hardy to intrepid where uswsusp was installed for whatever reason. (How I encountered this). 2) They followed feisty or gutsy vintage instructions. 3) Their hardware does not work properly with the kernel sleep and hibernate modules for pm-utils. #1 and #2 could probably withstand applying the rolled up newspaper treatment to the user. #3 indicates attempting to conceal a defect in the pm-utils package and MAYBE it's worthwhile to report the defect in pm-utils. Right now the crux of the pm-utils defect is that it assumes that the module for hibernate should also be the module for sleep. On debian this makes sense as uswsusp provides both hibernate and sleep. This is a side effect of the revision of the pm-utils code to be more modular. Upstream should be notified of the problem in logic prior to distributing a fix for intrepid. (I apologize for switching between sleep and suspend... I'm trying to maintain the same inconsistancy as the pm-utils modules). And also, I agree that if we don't have s2ram even built in the uswsusp package, then we should at least have a separate package with just s2ram in it. Assuming s2ram is the right solution. At this point in the game, intrepid is alpha. The prescribed configuration is pm-utils without uswsusp. If pm-utils fails on suspend or hibernate with uswsusp on your hardware, the ubuntu developers need to know. If you installed uswsusp to resolve a hibernate problem and uswsusp did, maybe the fix is to change the logic in pm-utils instead of bringing back s2ram. If the logic on pm-utils is improved to separate the configured module for sleep from module for hibernate, the long term solution might be for pm-utils to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists, uswsusp to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists, and tuxonice to provide suspend and hibernate blacklists and for pm-is-supported to provide a --verbose or --recommends flag that indicates which module is being used for suspend, hibernate, or suspend-hybrid, whether it was hard set or determined from absence from blacklists, and if it's blacklisted the next priority package. -- Chris Dukes In cynicism she's about 35 -- Terry Pratchett's Hog Father -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- devel/2008-September/026586.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu- devel/2008-September/026589.html and not in the archives yet from Matthew Garret Just drop the Debian-specific patch that uses the uswsusp code at all. It's an entirely unnecessary deviation from upstream that results in increased awkwardness. s2ram was dropped because people in the forums were encouraging people to install and use it, rather than reporting bugs about the Ubuntu code. It duplicates the functionality of pmutils and its presence causes user confusion. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi, After a mailing list discussion about this bug I propose the attached patch for inclusion. Thanks, James ** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17976284/pm-utils_1.1.2.4-1ubuntu3.diff ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu Intrepid) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Note that if we check for s2ram when deciding whether to use the uswsusp backend, it will never be used on Ubuntu; that kinda defeats the purpose of having the package, I think. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Hi Steve, Since the last upload of pm-utils it no longer checks for s2ram when deciding whether to use uswsusp, only s2disk (and /dev/snapshot). This means that for those with uswsusp installed it is now used as the backend since this upload. When the uswsusp backend is then asked if it supports suspend it checks for the presence s2ram, and doesn't find it, and so reports that suspend is not possible, leading to the issue we are seeing. Thanks, James -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Looking at this more closely, yes my suggested patch disables
pm-utils use of uswsusp on ubuntu, unless someone installed
the debian uswsusp package.
However, the current behavior is to disable the use of suspend when
ubuntu uswsusp is installed.
The root of this problem appears to be duplication of the check_suspend
and check_hibernate functions between modules.d/*, pm-is-supported, and
pm-utils when our SLEEP_MODULE does not have to be the same
as our hibernate module.
My thoughts without code are.
1) the functions for each module should be uniquely named based on the
module.
module.d/uswsusp's check_suspend should be uswsusp_check_suspend
2) pm-utils should source all files in modules.d/*
3) pm-utils should have something like a checkit() and doit() functions
something like
checkit() {
local rc=1
for module in $modules; do
${module}_check_$1
rc=$?
[ $rc == 0 ] break
done
return $rc
}
doit() {
checkit $1; rc=$?
[ $rc == 0 ] ${module}_check_$1
}
But that needs to be floated upstream
--
Chris Dukes
In cynicism she's about 35 -- Terry Pratchett's Hog Father
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[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
The problem appears when uswsusp is installed because of an incorrect test for the use of uswsusp for suspend for SLEEP_MODE=auto. This is what ships in /usr/lib/pm-utils/pm-functions # Try userspace software suspend if [ -c /dev/snapshot ] command_exists s2disk ; then SLEEP_MODULE=uswsusp fi This is what should ship # Try userspace software suspend if [ -c /dev/snapshot ] command_exists s2ram ; then SLEEP_MODULE=uswsusp fi The following patch to 10-sleep-mdule-auto-detection.patch appears to resolve the problem --- pm-utils-1.1.2.4/debian/patches/10-sleep-module-auto-detection.patch.orig 2008-09-18 13:58:46.0 -0400 +++ pm-utils-1.1.2.4/debian/patches/10-sleep-module-auto-detection.patch 2008-09-18 11:43:16.0 -0400 @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ + SLEEP_MODULE=kernel + + # Try userspace software suspend -+ if [ -c /dev/snapshot ] command_exists s2disk ; then ++ if [ -c /dev/snapshot ] command_exists s2ram ; then + SLEEP_MODULE=uswsusp + fi + However... My thinkpad T61 appears to now get upset with kernel suspend. So I built debian sid's uswsup-0.8-1 which provides s2ram. And everything appears to be happy now. Now off to find out why we're still on a 15 month old version of uswsusp, and why splashy.h has gboolean instead of int. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
** Tags added: regression-potential -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Interesting. Can you attach /var/log/pm-suspend.log to this bug report, along with the output of lshal |grep quirk? -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
$ cat /var/log/pm-suspend.log Initial commandline parameters: Mon Sep 8 12:48:21 CST 2008: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00clear suspend: disabled. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/05led suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/10NetworkManager suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50modules suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/96laptop-mode suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend: disabled. Mon Sep 8 12:48:22 CST 2008: performing suspend $ lshal |grep quirk power_management.quirk.vbe_post = true (bool) power_management.quirk.vbemode_restore = true (bool) -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 00:01 +, czk wrote: $ cat /var/log/pm-suspend.log Initial commandline parameters: Mon Sep 8 12:48:21 CST 2008: Running hooks for suspend. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00clear suspend: disabled. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/05led suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/10NetworkManager suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/49bluetooth suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/50modules suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/90clock suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/94cpufreq suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95anacron suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95led suspend: not applicable. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/96laptop-mode suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/98smart-kernel-video suspend: success. /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/99video suspend: disabled. Mon Sep 8 12:48:22 CST 2008: performing suspend Interesting -- when running with the kernel suspend backend, 00clear and 99video should not be disabled -- only the uswsusp module does that. Looks like that last patch broke pm-utils in a particularly spectacular fashion. $ lshal |grep quirk power_management.quirk.vbe_post = true (bool) power_management.quirk.vbemode_restore = true (bool) Can you try running pm-suspend manually by running the following command as root and attaching the resultant /var/log/pm-suspend.log to this bug? PM_DEBUG=true /usr/sbin/pm-suspend --quirk-vbe-post --quirk-vbemode- restore This will spew out tons of debugging information into the logfile and help pinpoint exactly where pm-utils is failing. -- Victor Lowther Ubuntu Certified Professional -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
Sorry, I didn't enabled kernel backend just now. Now it works! Thanks. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
This bug is happening because Ubuntu stopped using s2ram, and removed the check for s2ram in the backend autodetection module but not in the actual uswsusp backend. Since the uswsusp backend relies on s2ram to suspend, pm-utils claims that the system does not support suspend. The easiest way to fix this bug would be to just use the kernel backend and ignore uswsusp. The second easiest way to fix this bug would be to write a new backend that uses the kernel suspend/resume functionality but continues to use s2disk for hibernation. pm-utils 1.2.1 or thereabouts will have finegrained suspend method autodetection built-in (http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pm-utils/?h=auto- backend for the branch that will be merged into the 1.2 series of pm- utils) -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
A short-term workaround would be to add a file (the name does not matter) in /etc/pm/config.d with the following line: SLEEP_MODULE=kernel This will tell pm-utils to use the kernel's basic functionality for suspend and hibernate. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
SLEEP_MODULE=kernel After adding this line, suspend button appears, but it doesn't work. System halted after pressing it. -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 267141] Re: suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2
I can confirm on Samsung X30. After downgrading the Suspend option becomes available again. ** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- suspend button disappears after pm-utils upgraded to 1.1.2.4-1ubuntu2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/267141 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
