[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
Setting the two gconf keys to true specifically for Ubuntu is quite possible (as it's just a default setting that changed, no icons have been removed for those who wish to keep the old behavior), however, when mpt, Mark Shuttleworth and myself discussed this at the GNOME User Experience hackfest in October last fall, all three of us agreed it was a good idea (it might even have been Mark that first suggested it) and mpt have been very driving behind this change upstream. -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
From upstream comments , i dont think mpt was driving this change. He was more reluctant against this move... Comment #14 from Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) 2008-12-29 11:25 UTC [reply] I agree with Jeff Schroeder (comment 12) in that merely setting menus_have_icons=false by default, and doing nothing else, would not make anyone happy and therefore should not be done. I think this bug report is a bit confused because it started with a proposed solution rather than with a problem. He has been always driving for a better implementation of the idea rather than simply removing the icons... Well... maybe his stance on this issue has changed ... *only mpt can clarify on this* . Consistency is essential but not at the cost of making *everything* bland . -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
** Summary changed: - Icons missing from context menu , buttons + Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons ** Description changed: The icons are missing from the context menus and dialogue buttons , since i updated : libgnome2-0 (2.26.0-1ubuntu1) to 2.27.5-0ubuntu1 I believe libgnome2-0 is the cause of the problem, because there was a mention of the Update default properties for menus_have_icons, buttons_have_icons in this change list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-July/005347.html Workaround: In the gconf-editor, check these two options: /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icons - Upstream is setting these two options to false by default. + Upstream is setting these two options to false by default. + http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557469 + http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322934 + + Their reasoning: to have a cleaner interface. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Aug 1 14:58:16 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 Package: libgnome2-0 2.27.5-0ubuntu1 ProcEnviron: LANG=en_IN SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-4.23-generic SourcePackage: libgnome Uname: Linux 2.6.31-4-generic i686 -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
Folks, Let's gather some meaningful data, reasonable opinion, and (if necessary) exercise our independence as to whether we should re-enable menu and button icons in Ubuntu. I am asking a very simple question. Where is the best place to discuss this proposal to re-enable icons; the forums, ubuntu-devel-discuss ML, Brainstorm? Or will the user community have no voice in this decision? It may be a lost cause to petition upstream [1], especially since we didn't participate in a debate that we weren't aware that existed, but we still have an opportunity in Ubuntu. [1] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557469#c47 -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
One place to discuss that would be the ubuntu-desk...@lists.ubuntu.com, note that mpt who is a designer working for canonical is subscribed to the upstream discussion -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
Quoting from upstream: I'm afraid a poll on such a trivial UI matter would be a terrible idea. People never like change for sure, but one of our goals for 3.0 a cleaner and more well balanced interface. This is one of the steps, and I hope it will turn out as the better choice in the end. I don't think we should be afraid to fail every once in a while, and this one is easy to change back. :) It is very clear upstream wants to take this into gnome 3.0 , so any change needs to be done only in Ubuntu, I'v seen mpt argue against this move since 2008! , maybe he[UX team] could decide Ubuntu's direction. No need for a poll i guess, since even Ubuntu's team is against this change and no amount of polling is going to change this upstream. ** Description changed: The icons are missing from the context menus and dialogue buttons , since i updated : libgnome2-0 (2.26.0-1ubuntu1) to 2.27.5-0ubuntu1 I believe libgnome2-0 is the cause of the problem, because there was a mention of the Update default properties for menus_have_icons, buttons_have_icons in this change list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-July/005347.html Workaround: In the gconf-editor, check these two options: /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons /desktop/gnome/interface/buttons_have_icons Upstream is setting these two options to false by default. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557469 - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322934 + http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=583352 Their reasoning: to have a cleaner interface. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: i386 Date: Sat Aug 1 14:58:16 2009 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10 Package: libgnome2-0 2.27.5-0ubuntu1 ProcEnviron: LANG=en_IN SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-4.23-generic SourcePackage: libgnome Uname: Linux 2.6.31-4-generic i686 -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 407621] Re: Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons
I can see some reasons for doing this - in particular I've seen menus take a while to display properly while the icons get loaded. But heck - it doesn't look 'clean' it looks incredibly plain; and from a UI point of view the icons help people navigate faster rather than having to take the time to read the items. I agree that these should come back - even if it means we have to keep a patch on top of Gnome. Dave -- Icons missing from context menu , dialogue buttons , firefox bookmark favicons https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/407621 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
