Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-25 Thread Philipp Gassmann
Am 21.03.2011 00:17, schrieb WaVeR:
>>> > > I like it, that there are suddenly faces to see, not only nicknames! Who
>>> > > are you, nicknamed people?
>> > 
>> > I understand if people are using nicknames on Facebook...
> Difficult to use your real name under this kind of social networking
> service.
Did you ever use facebook? Almost everyone uses his real name. Actually
I meant the nicknames here (Waver, Tribaal)

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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread WaVeR

Le dimanche 20 mars 2011 à 20:40 +0100, Tormod Volden a écrit :

Hello,

> Could "Ubuntu Switzerland" be an alternative?

I agree with this name too.

> > I like it, that there are suddenly faces to see, not only nicknames! Who
> > are you, nicknamed people?
> 
> I understand if people are using nicknames on Facebook...

Difficult to use your real name under this kind of social networking
service.

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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Tormod Volden
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Philipp Gassmann wrote:
> There's one question i have to know.
> I named the site "Ubuntu CH". I could also write it "ubuntu-ch" but
> changing is only possible up to 100 fans.
> Which one do you prefer?

Could "Ubuntu Switzerland" be an alternative?

> If you'd like to become an admin of the site write it here with your
> real name or message me on facebook.

Please post everything here. I think it is important that the rest of
us gets to know who is responsible.

> I like it, that there are suddenly faces to see, not only nicknames! Who
> are you, nicknamed people?

I understand if people are using nicknames on Facebook...

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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Tormod Volden
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Kim Tucker wrote:
> -1 Please consider the freedom issues.
>
> and consider free services such as GNU social, status.net, Crabgrass,
> Appleseed and Diaspora.
>
> The issues are summarised here:
>
> http://www.fsf.org/facebook
>
> Thanks
>
> Kim
>
> PS and http://wikieducator.org/Say_libre :-).

Thanks for the informative links that I hope everybody (well those of
you on Facebook) will read.

However, I see a Facebook presence simply as advertising for Ubuntu.
Of course the Ubuntu Swiss Team should principally not encourage
people to use such services. But look at me, I am sending this e-mail
from Gmail :) And there is WUBI for installing Ubuntu inside a
Microsoft system. Oh, and there is UbuntuOne which is based on a
closed, proprietary system - don't get me started on that one.

It would be great if someone set up a similar page on GNU social,
status.net, Crabgrass, Appleseed and Diaspora, but if the most
important is to reach out to a new audience, Facebook may be more
efficient. Make those people use Ubuntu, maybe they will understand
the values of free software and act accordingly, over time.

Cheers,
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Danilo Bargen
Hi

> I always wonder how Facebook is able to uglify images that much. And in
> general I would also prefer to support an open solution like diaspora.

Why not support several solutions? :)

I am very in favor of the Ubuntu facebookpage. I'm not very fond of
Facebook, but it is a great way to promote something. Actually I
probably would have deleted my Facebook account long time ago, if it
weren't such a great place for promoting things. Ubuntu has gone a way
of supporting software even if it is not free, e.g. by providing an
easy way to install proprietary hardware drivers. And it seems to work
- people like it very much. The same should count for promotion - if
people like the Facebook page and it can help the Ubuntu CH team, then
do it. People that use Diaspora will probably also use mailing lists.
The goal of creating a Facebook Page is to reach people that are not
techies and don't know all those "Facebook alternatives".

Btw, even Debian - which would be more likely than Ubuntu to not
support Facebook - is using Facebook as a way of promotion[1]. And
they have 70'000 likers. Same thing counts for Ubuntu[2], with 350'000
likers.

Danilo

PS: I don't think it's the fault of Facebook that the Logo looks ugly.
Please re-try by uploading a downscaled version.

[1] https://www.facebook.com/debian
[2] https://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux

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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Marcus Moeller

Hi all.


Thank you for the approval. We already have 18 fans.

There's one question i have to know.
I named the site "Ubuntu CH". I could also write it "ubuntu-ch" but
changing is only possible up to 100 fans.
Which one do you prefer?

If you'd like to become an admin of the site write it here with your
real name or message me on facebook.

I like it, that there are suddenly faces to see, not only nicknames! Who
are you, nicknamed people?


I always wonder how Facebook is able to uglify images that much. And in 
general I would also prefer to support an open solution like diaspora.


Greets
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Philipp Gassmann
Hello

Thank you for the approval. We already have 18 fans.

There's one question i have to know.
I named the site "Ubuntu CH". I could also write it "ubuntu-ch" but
changing is only possible up to 100 fans.
Which one do you prefer?

If you'd like to become an admin of the site write it here with your
real name or message me on facebook.

I like it, that there are suddenly faces to see, not only nicknames! Who
are you, nicknamed people?

.phiphi


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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-20 Thread Kim Tucker
-1 Please consider the freedom issues.

and consider free services such as GNU social, status.net, Crabgrass,
Appleseed and Diaspora.

The issues are summarised here:

http://www.fsf.org/facebook

Thanks

Kim

PS and http://wikieducator.org/Say_libre :-).



On 19 March 2011 15:07, Bruno Roost  wrote:
> Hello together
>
> Am 19.03.2011 14:22, schrieb Marcus Moeller:
>> I would like to suggest to use the ubuntu-ch-flag logo I have
>> submitted recently, instead of the Swiss map only:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-ch-flag.png
>>
>>
> +1
>
> At all, i like the idea to spread the existence of ubuntu switzerland
> over the (well used) social medias like FB and Xing.
> And i like the ubuntu-ch-flag logo and think it would be a good idea to
> use this as a kind of "Corporate Logo" over all.
>
> Regards,
> bruno
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-19 Thread Bruno Roost
Hello together

Am 19.03.2011 14:22, schrieb Marcus Moeller:
> I would like to suggest to use the ubuntu-ch-flag logo I have
> submitted recently, instead of the Swiss map only:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-ch-flag.png
>
>
+1

At all, i like the idea to spread the existence of ubuntu switzerland
over the (well used) social medias like FB and Xing.
And i like the ubuntu-ch-flag logo and think it would be a good idea to
use this as a kind of "Corporate Logo" over all.

Regards,
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-19 Thread Marcus Moeller

Hi all.


After the discussion I decided to go ahead and create a "official"
Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-CH/193831693990902

A Page seems to fit well. It's public and open.


+1, I agree with Thormod, it looks good.


I would like to suggest to use the ubuntu-ch-flag logo I have submitted 
recently, instead of the Swiss map only:


https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/Artwork?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-ch-flag.png

Greets
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-19 Thread Daniel Stoni
Hoi Philipp

And Big Hello to all of you who joined the discussion, who gave feedback
and who shared their ideas so far.


It is great to feel your engagement and interest. We have power and the
potential to do more for Ubuntu in Switzerland. Nice, isn't it?

For the moment I shortly comment the facebook part. Viewed from distance
I recognize the importance of having presence on facebook, possibly on
other new media, too. It's great that people familiar with it took the
initiative to incorporate the page and who will likely fill the facebook
affiliate of ubuntu-ch with life ;-). Opening a Xing precense would be a
possible next step, no?

I'm also one of these guys working with 'old' channels. Even older
channels: I prefer meeting physically and talking. This brings me to one
crucial strength of this group: together, we are able to maintain any
channel from press, companies, schools, communities, old & new media. We
have tremendous skill - organizational, technical, other - on board and
we have a common interest, that faciliates internal communication.

That's cool. Thinking about our options and what we might achieve is
exciting. Let's continue the discussion and see what evolves ...

Have a nice weekend

Regards, dsto
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Am 19.03.2011 10:15, schrieb Tormod Volden:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Philipp Gassmann wrote:
>> Hello Swiss Ubuntu Users
>>
>> After the discussion I decided to go ahead and create a "official"
>> Facebook page.
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-CH/193831693990902
>>
>> A Page seems to fit well. It's public and open.
> Hi Philipp,
> Thanks for setting it up, it looks good. Since I have no account there
> I will have to write it here, in the old-school way: I "like it" :)
>
>> So what can "we" do with a Page:
>>
>> - Describe the Page in the Info section
>> - Write Posts that can be seen by people who "like" the page
>> - Add Events that will show up on likers "events" and if they have
>> integrated FB in Android, the Events will show up in their calendar.
>> - Add Pictures of Events or anything else
>> - Propose the page to your friends
>> - People can write posts on the Pages wall
>> - People can comment on post/pictures/events
>>
>> So, can I make it officially "official" ?
>> I haven't invited anybody till now. I'm waiting for your OK.
> That is fine with me. We just have to make sure that you or a team of
> you keep it updated, and act like a bridge between the Facebook
> presence and the "old" channels like mailing list and wiki. I hope of
> course it will not be necessary to join Facebook in order to
> participate or stay up to date with the Ubuntu activities in
> Switzerland.
>
>> I'm excited to see how many people will "like" it.
>>
>> .phiphi
> Yes, and let's hope it can bring more people to participate in Ubuntu
> and free software activities.
>
> Cheers,
> Tormod
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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-19 Thread WaVeR
Le vendredi 18 mars 2011 à 22:18 +0100, Philipp Gassmann a écrit :
> Hello Swiss Ubuntu Users

Hi Phillipp and others,

> 
> After the discussion I decided to go ahead and create a "official"
> Facebook page.
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-CH/193831693990902
> 
> A Page seems to fit well. It's public and open.

+1, I agree with Thormod, it looks good.

You can use as url http://www.ubuntu-ch.org it's more easy instead of
wiki.ubuntu


You can add this link [1] for people who want to know our next events
and other infos.

Please add also some info for the other Swiss part (IT, FR) [2]. I don't
know if you have read our archives but I'll give you a small summary:
Ubuntu-ch is an official team to organise events and help local people.
We don't provide any documentation or other (only if there's some
special Swiss device/problem: UMTS key, Migros bank key, ...) We
redirect people to other websites as [2].

Just read our website, there's a lot of info that you can add on
Facebook page (We have also a IRC channel and we're almost always 12
person)


[H.S]: As info, we are 206 person on this Mailing list ^^. I don't know
where's other 90% ...

> 
> So what can "we" do with a Page:
> 
> - Describe the Page in the Info section
> - Write Posts that can be seen by people who "like" the page
> - Add Events that will show up on likers "events" and if they have
> integrated FB in Android, the Events will show up in their calendar.
> - Add Pictures of Events or anything else
> - Propose the page to your friends
> - People can write posts on the Pages wall
> - People can comment on post/pictures/events


Good like to maintain it, I'll try to join you if needed.

> 
> So, can I make it officially "official" ?
> I haven't invited anybody till now. I'm waiting for your OK.

For me, no problem. You can create a poll if you want or give a deadline
for people to react.

> 
> I'm excited to see how many people will "like" it.

;)
> 
> .phiphi
> 
> 

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[2] http://www.ubuntu-fr.org , http://www.ubuntu-it.org


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Re: [Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-19 Thread Tormod Volden
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Philipp Gassmann wrote:
> Hello Swiss Ubuntu Users
>
> After the discussion I decided to go ahead and create a "official"
> Facebook page.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-CH/193831693990902
>
> A Page seems to fit well. It's public and open.

Hi Philipp,
Thanks for setting it up, it looks good. Since I have no account there
I will have to write it here, in the old-school way: I "like it" :)

> So what can "we" do with a Page:
>
> - Describe the Page in the Info section
> - Write Posts that can be seen by people who "like" the page
> - Add Events that will show up on likers "events" and if they have
> integrated FB in Android, the Events will show up in their calendar.
> - Add Pictures of Events or anything else
> - Propose the page to your friends
> - People can write posts on the Pages wall
> - People can comment on post/pictures/events
>
> So, can I make it officially "official" ?
> I haven't invited anybody till now. I'm waiting for your OK.

That is fine with me. We just have to make sure that you or a team of
you keep it updated, and act like a bridge between the Facebook
presence and the "old" channels like mailing list and wiki. I hope of
course it will not be necessary to join Facebook in order to
participate or stay up to date with the Ubuntu activities in
Switzerland.

> I'm excited to see how many people will "like" it.
>
> .phiphi

Yes, and let's hope it can bring more people to participate in Ubuntu
and free software activities.

Cheers,
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[Ubuntu-ch] Ubuntu CH on Facebook

2011-03-18 Thread Philipp Gassmann
Hello Swiss Ubuntu Users

After the discussion I decided to go ahead and create a "official"
Facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-CH/193831693990902

A Page seems to fit well. It's public and open.

So what can "we" do with a Page:

- Describe the Page in the Info section
- Write Posts that can be seen by people who "like" the page
- Add Events that will show up on likers "events" and if they have
integrated FB in Android, the Events will show up in their calendar.
- Add Pictures of Events or anything else
- Propose the page to your friends
- People can write posts on the Pages wall
- People can comment on post/pictures/events

So, can I make it officially "official" ?
I haven't invited anybody till now. I'm waiting for your OK.

I'm excited to see how many people will "like" it.

.phiphi


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