Ubuntu QA Tracker: New build notification [20111011]
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Getting new packages into Ubuntu
On Monday, October 10, 2011 06:40:33 PM Sebastien Bacher wrote: Le lundi 10 octobre 2011 à 12:34 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : What rationale would there be for doing that for just Universe? There are lots of leaf applications in Main and lots of libraries in Universe. I think we should consider differently the system and the softwares so the using main and universe there might be wrong yes... Using Ubuntu with Unity (or GNOME) as an example the system would be the plumber, plymouth, lightdm, the desktop shell and the features integrated with the desktop (image and documents viewers, file manager, etc). That part should be under a strict process, respect freezes, etc. Then we have all the applications stack, basically things that microsoft users would go to install from the internet or that you would get from the appstores, those have no reason to have their freezes, schedules, etc tied to the OS itself or to the shell, they should be easier to update and be able to follow the rhythms upstream want to use for their softwares... Does it make sense? It does makes lots of sense. Was a main topic a year ago at the UDS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT5fUcMUfYg is a big and old problem that hasn't seen much progress yet. But there is an old bug about this, which seems to be currently being worked on and/or used as reference/goal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/578045 -Manuel B. -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Unseeded Universe Final Freeze
Hi there, On Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 10:12:42PM -0500, Kate Stewart wrote: Dear Developers, There has been some ambiguity around when the unseeded universe will have its final freeze and expectations around it, so clarifying this has been the subject of some recent discussion amongst the release team. For those interested in getting those last important fixes to unseeded universe packages included in the archive for 11.10, unseeded universe final freeze will be on Oct. 11 at 1200 UTC. Submissions well before this date are recommended though. This has now passed, so the whole archive is in hard freeze now for the release. Thanks to everyone who contributed to Oneiric! For fun, I ran some stats using UDD. This was the 7th most active development cycle by uploads to the release pocket. distribution | uploads | rank -+-+-- breezy | 12834 |1 karmic | 11950 |2 dapper | 11791 |3 natty | 11780 |4 hardy | 11459 |5 lucid | 11246 |6 oneiric | 10889 |7 gutsy |9949 |8 jaunty |9722 |9 intrepid|9397 | 10 maverick|8879 | 11 feisty |8522 | 12 edgy|7953 | 13 hoary |4552 | 14 warty |1617 | 15 413 different people uploaded packages to the archive (using Changed-By). The source package uploaded the most times was … drumroll … gnome-settings-daemon with 46 uploads! Followed closely by livecd-rootfs with 45. :-) Cheers, -- Iain Lane [ i...@orangesquash.org.uk ] Debian Developer [ la...@debian.org ] Ubuntu Developer [ la...@ubuntu.com ] PhD student [ i...@cs.nott.ac.uk ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Getting new packages into Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefano Rivera wrote on 10/10/11 20:24: Hi Sebastien (2011.10.10_20:34:48_+0200) ... * No obvious approaches to handling security issues or bug reports yet. How does android or app stores deal with those? As well as linking to the developer's Web site, which Ubuntu Software Center already does, they sometimes have another link specifically for reporting problems. We'd like to add that too. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#isv-support ... When you download something from the software centre, the origin isn't obvious. Currently, I think about the only obvious feedback mechanism is the reviews in Software Center (are those visible on the web anywhere?). By doing this, we are also aligning Ubuntu with these apps, to some degree. People find the quality of the apps in smartphones application stores to be a discriminator between smartphone platforms. I think that'll easily carry over to Ubuntu, and people will measure Ubuntu by the quality of the app store. We don't want as little responsibility as possible. We want to create the best experience for our users and ourselves. That isn't a one-dimensional landscape, though. More oversight also means more time and effort to publish an application, which means fewer applications, which means a worse experience. (Or, alternatively, a good experience for fewer people.) The past 18 years of Debian and Ubuntu have shown that the model of we package all your stuff, and people upgrade their OS to get it is not a peak on that landscape. Or at least, not one high enough to be competitive. We shouldn't aim at getting libraries in extras, the libraries should be part of the platform an in the archive itself then. I'm talking about bundled libraries, not library packages. There'll be ARB apps that need libraries that aren't in Ubuntu. (And probably ARB apps that want different library versions to what we ship in Ubuntu). ... Ubuntu developers announce, months in advance, what kernel and toolchain versions will be used in the next release. Minimizing the library problem may involve doing something similar for libraries (or at least library API versions). So if you want your application published for that Ubuntu version, you can write to that version's APIs. - -- mpt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6UlZ4ACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecpCagCgmTGk1ZgIvSqBLUQkVLerPYLl zUkAn1YQ2vltlKQyTu8cchWPGr19pMgs =3mXM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu/oneiric-updates] software-properties 0.81.11 (Accepted)
Michael Vogt [2011-10-12 4:28 -]: software-properties (0.81.11) oneiric-updates; urgency=low * lp:~kelemeng/software-properties/bug853231-upstream: - Add missing files to POTFILES.in (LP: #853231) Many thanks to Gabor Kelemen Argh, this upload was targetted at oneiric-updates. I noticed only after I accepted it, so I immediately removed it again from the archive. Sorry for the confusion. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 05:41 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: beyond what's normally considered free software With this meta package it gets very tricky, firstly because we've got four issues: distribution rights, copyrights, patents and one special case of DMCA issues. Most of the software/content in the package is free software and only 3 hack scripts pull in non-free software/content: ubuntu-restricted-addons (meta) - adobe-flashplugin - Non-free software - flashplugin-installer - Hack script because we can't convince adobe to change their distribution license. - gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg - Free software, lib issues* - gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Non-free, not sure why we're using this instead of libmad which is free software. - gstreamer0.10-pitfdll - pulls in w32codecs which contains very certainly copyright infringing dlls (long time since I rechecked this though). - gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad - Free software, lib issues* - gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly - Free software, lib issues*, pulls in libmad (mp3 dupe?) and libdvdread4 which is a hack to install a script to install libdvdcss because we can't be sure if libdvdcss falls under the DMCA safe harbour so we do the wrong thing. - icedtea6-plugin - Free software, but lots of users want the non free Sun java-plugin because yahoo games didn't used to work with icetea. Maybe we should tell our users? gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse - Free software, lib issues* libavcodec-extra-53 - Free software, lib issues and packaging issues. ttf-mscorefonts-installer - Hack script to install the Microsoft fonts, unlikely we'll ever get a distribution agreement for this non-free content. unrar - Actually fixed by the FSF, there is no need for unrar-nonfree any more and unrar could probably go into the distro/main/multiverse (and probably is) so this should be removed. * Library issues are mainly due to patent issues which we have no data, we do know that certain libraries have a high probability of stepping on known aggressive patent pools but without data we end up sticking all media support together in a just in case package. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 03:47 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: - gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 - Non-free, not sure why we're using this instead of libmad which is free software. We aren't using any of them, actually. We are packaging several, which are not installed by default, within an appropriate place due to their licensing and legal concerns. The 'mad' MP3 decoder for gstreamer is in the -ugly package because libmad is a GPL library instead of LGPL. Even if it was LGPL, and included in the gstreamer -base plug-ins package, Debian would determine it belongs in nonfree due to the patent and licensing issues of the codec itself, and so we would still be placing that binary in restricted. The Fluendo plug-in is the only fully legal MP3 codec implementation there is to use. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
