Re: More diagnostics data from desktop
On 14/02/18 16:00, Cassidy James Blaede wrote: ... If Ubuntu uses GNOME Initial Setup for new users, that would be a great place for this. Cassidy That's great if they are only interested in Ubuntu - flavours who might want to see the results of it done via Ubiquity won't be having gnome initial setup ... regards -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Immutable Page
On 21/04/16 20:53, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 20:43 +0100, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: as far as I am aware you need to be in the etherpad users launchpad group to edit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad Thank you, when did this change? I always could log in with my launchpad/Ubuntu one account and edit those pages. Indeed, it changed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide#Contributing , but there's no explanation why. I guess I will not continue to contribute to those pages. Is there valid a reason to make it extra hard to help? Regards, Ralf It was put in place when the wiki was under pressure from spammers as an extra measure to dissuade them iirc. Please bear in mind this was nothing to do with me - just passing on what I remember from the incident Not sure that joining a LP group is really that much of a hardship tbh. thanks -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Immutable Page
On 21/04/16 20:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi, I suspect that all Ubuntu Wiki and help pages aren't editable, due to the issues Ubuntu pages had a few days ago. Is there already a date, when those sites become editable again? Regards, Ralf as far as I am aware you need to be in the etherpad users launchpad group to edit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase, please help testing
On 15/04/16 18:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 19:08:21 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:01:56 -0700 (PDT), Len Ovens wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2016, Ralf Mardorf wrote: But the OP should care what is send by this command line tool, most likely the OP dislike to send credit card information and passwords. Creditcard info? passwords? Testing should be done on a clean install. I suggest a clean install, user name "Joe Blow" password "testing" for an install to test things with. Sending bug reports from a daily use system may mean some change you have made is the problem rather than the SW itself. Making the bug happen on a clean install is best and easiest to debug. It is unfortunate that ubiquity does not have an install option that creates a 20G partition for test installs. (but then it would probably confuse to many people ) That's something completely different ;). However, instead of "Joe Blow" IMHO "Deep Thought" is appropriate. Don't confuse it with "Deep Throat" :D 42 PS: There are still issues regarding log files. Assumed somebody doesn't use DHCP, but e.g. PPPoE, the password could be provided in plain text by a log file and even if you don't dial up, be careful when filing a bug against a MUA. Just so you know - bugs reported by ubuntu-bug, that could possibly contain personal information - get marked Private, the only people able to access such bugs are the one reporting and bug control Of course if someone manually reported a bug containing that - and didn't know - a likely scenario considering the people attracted to *buntu - would leave their personal information free for anyone to read. Your choice - you report manually if you want, I've not the time to read, nor try to find out how to read all of the many files that help to narrow down the cause of a bug. I'll use the tool. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Possible Tester
On 02/03/16 09:51, set wrote: On 2016-03-02 02:18, Matthew Bearson wrote: Hello there, I am new to the world of Ubuntu Studio but not to Linux, I run Ubuntu 15.10 and will live run Ubuntu Studio 14.04 from USB pen drive. Thanks for your time and can't wait to join the team of Studio testers! On 2016-03-02 08:31, Fadhil Kadir wrote: Hi there! [snip] Thought I could contribute here and there, if needed. Hope to learn more from this group! Cheers! Hi guys and welcome! We surely need testing and contributions! The beta2 for the LTS 16.04 is due to be tested the 24th of march. Due to be released on the 24th March. Testing images should be available 21st/22nd March for testing prior to release. It would be of great value if you could participate! Contributions are welcome in all areas! There are few steps you need to go through in order to be able to help Ubuntu Studio in a relevant way. Yo can find out about them on this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/JoinTheTeam Looking forward to read you! :) Kev -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Xenial Xerus Beta 1
“But I don’t want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can’t help that," said the Cat: "we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad." "How do you know I’m mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn’t have come here.” ― Lewis Carroll, Alice in Wonderland This Beta features images for Lubuntu, Ubuntu Cloud, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu MATE, UbuntuKylin, Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu. Pre-releases of Xenial Xerus are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu flavour developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting and fixing bugs as we work towards getting this release ready. Beta 1 includes a number of software updates that are ready for wider testing. This is quite an early set of images, so you should expect some bugs. While these Beta 1 images have been tested and work, except as noted in the release notes, Ubuntu developers are continuing to improve Xenial Xerus. In particular, once newer daily images are available, system installation bugs identified in the Beta 1 installer should be verified against the current daily image before being reported in Launchpad. Using an obsolete image to re-report bugs that have already been fixed wastes your time and the time of developers who are busy trying to make 16.04 the best Ubuntu release yet. Always ensure your system is up to date before reporting bugs. Lubuntu: Lubuntu is a flavour of Ubuntu based on LXDE and focused on providing a very lightweight distribution. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on Lubuntu Beta-1 can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/Lubuntu http://lubuntu.me/xenialb1 Ubuntu Cloud: Ubuntu Cloud images can be run on Amazon EC2, Openstack, SmartOS and many other clouds. The Alpha-2 images can be downloaded from: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/xenial/alpha-2/ Ubuntu GNOME: Ubuntu GNOME is a flavor of Ubuntu featuring the GNOME desktop environment. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on Ubuntu GNOME Beta 1 can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuGNOME Ubuntu MATE: Ubuntu MATE is a flavour of Ubuntu featuring the MATE desktop environment. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on Ubuntu MATE Beta 1 can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuMATE https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-xenial-beta1/ UbuntuKylin: UbuntuKylin is a flavour of Ubuntu that is more suitable for Chinese users. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntukylin/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on UbuntuKylin Beta 1 can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuKylin Ubuntu Studio: Ubuntu Studio is a flavour of Ubuntu configured for working on multimedia projects. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on Ubuntu Studio Beta 1 can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/UbuntuStudio Xubuntu: Xubuntu is a flavour of Ubuntu based on the Xfce desktop environment. The Beta 1 images can be downloaded at: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/xenial/beta-1/ More information on Xubuntu Beta 1 can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/Beta1/Xubuntu https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-lts-beta-1/ Regular daily images for Ubuntu can be found at: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com If you're interested in following the changes as we further develop Xenial, we suggest that you subscribe to the ubuntu-devel-announce list. This is a low-traffic list (a few posts a week) carrying announcements of approved specifications, policy changes, alpha releases and other interesting events. http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce A big thank you to the developers and testers for their efforts to pull together this Beta release! Flocculant Xubuntu Release Team and QA Lead On behalf of the Ubuntu Release Team, -- ubuntu-devel-announce mailing list ubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Application Testing for Ubuntu Studio Xenial 16.04
On 23/02/16 16:11, Ross Gammon wrote: [snip] Actually, I forgot to mention that everyone should skip the kdenlive test for now. I will put a failure on the tracker and link this bug. You can actually mark a testcase disabled - then people don't even see it. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Fonts-droid has been deprecated and removed, please update your dependency :)
On 17/02/16 10:38, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: [snip] * xubuntu-default-settings [snip] Hi Gianfranco, just so you are aware - we know about this issue and will deal with any of our (Xubuntu packages etc) once we know what it is we want to do. Thanks :) flocculant Xubuntu Release Team -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: How shall I report a bug in the .deb packaging itself?
On 24/12/15 00:50, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: [snip] Imagine that we have the perfect way to innovate. That we have decided slowly along with other people, the change is small, we have put it on test as prototype, and the outcome seems to be very positive. Would that make us get rid of complains? of course not tomorrow is another day -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hi
On 29/11/15 09:45, Bartlomiej Golaszewski wrote: Just wanted to introduce myself as I just joined the testing launchpad group also willing to give a hand with anything that I can help with. About me: 28y/o, names Bart. Currently reside in not-so-sunny Ireland. My interests range from technology(general) through SEO to UX. Loving the distro so far. I have a lot of spare time on my hands and I am willing to help/test anything. Hope to talk to you all soon. Best regards Bart The Testing lead recently sent this mail to the list - I'm sure he'll be along later :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2015-November/007124.html should give you something to think about regards -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Gedit
On 25/11/15 19:25, Len Ovens wrote: Gedit seems to have gone wonky... it is not broken, but for some reason the devs have hard coded stuff into it that should be left for the window manager/theme engine. When I opened up gedit in 16.04 it has an inch wide grey "picture frame" around it and no wm decorations. It makes it's own decorations instead which include some menu options as well (Open/Save). It looks completely out of place on the xfce desktop. xubuntu uses mousepad which is a nice lite editor, but lacks many features people might like. I found medit which almost looks like a clone of the way gedit used to be. I would recomend switching them out or using mousepad and leave the choice of editor to the user. If some people could check this out on the 1604 iso and we can see if we are in agreement on which way to go. The two editors require little in the way of depends. Things like kate pull in more. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net gedit and many other gtk3 things are broken atm https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1518661 at the least -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio - Application Testing
On 23/11/15 19:29, Ross Gammon wrote: Hi All, [snip] I think we need to start writing test cases straight away, so that we can ask flocculant to create a tracker to list all our test cases (or add them to the existing list of packages on the tracker at http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/) sometime before February 2016. Hi - I'd love to help - but as I'm not in the studio release team I'd not actually be able to do that for you. I'm more than happy to go through it with you when you need to do so. There is a list of packages, and bugs requesting the test cases here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/Testcases So feel free to pick a package (maybe one of your favourites) and begin drafting a test case. You can either follow the processes linked on that page, or just send me a text file (or here to the list), and I will take it from there. Basically the test case needs: 1. A short description of the test (1 sentence or so) 2. Any remarks (e.g. where to download a known file to work with, or how to check your system is correctly set up). 3a. Action sentences (e.g. Click on the "Open File" icon). 3b. A matching result (e.g. File Selection Window opens). Have a look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1596_Update%20Manager for the way they need to be written. We should try and keep the test cases fairly short, and only test that the program runs, you can open and save files, do basic editing & creation, and output the creation as applicable. See package qa tracker for examples. It would be great if we could all pick a package (or three) that we know and love, so that we quickly build up a portfolio of tests. Although it is possible, doing a test case for a package you don't know very well can take a lot of time. Over the next days, I will be checking the list of packages is up to date, and updating the priority column to focus on a small number of important applications. And then I will get kicking from where I left off last time! I CAN help here and make sure it all gets onto the right place in the tracker base. Regards, Ross PS: Please ask questions if you get stuck -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] PR Suggestion
On 12/11/15 14:23, set wrote: On 2015-11-12 14:50, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: [snip] I'll bounce the ball with you cfhowlett! :) *Set ps. i don't understand how to handle that link you sent... try http://dl.fullcirclemagazine.org/issue7_en.pdf cheers -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] [DRAFT] Call for contributors
On 06/11/15 11:02, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2015, at 12:23 AM, set wrote: Kaj wrote: We need contributors! We could really use your help! Want to help out? We are all volunteers. Check out ... Not sure where you intend to put this. But I would at least make sure it ended up on Planet. You could also let the people doing UWN know as well - ubuntu-news-t...@lists.ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Call for contributors for 16.04 LTS (Testing, PR, Artwork, Packaging, Documentation)
On 26/10/15 14:29, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: [snip] # TESTING We need to start doing application testing! For this, we need to start writing test cases. The period best suited for application testing is right after Debian Import Freeze, which happens when the first Beta Release of Ubuntu Studio comes out, which should be around February. So, we have about 4 months time to write a bunch of test cases. Testing applications thoroughly should produce more bug reports, and clarify many problems with how applications are packaged or coded, so this is actually very important work from a user point of view. Testing lead would be responsible for making sure our ISOs are tested and marked ready for release. This will happen at least three times next cycle, February (Beta1), March(FinalBeta) and April(FinalRelease). If application testing ever becomes successful, the lead would also be responsible for documenting bugs and other problems, so that developers may do something to correct them. [snip] If people want to start looking at this - I'm happy to help where I can - if nothing more than helping with the admin side of testcases. If people want to have some sort of irc meeting about that, I'd be happy to come along, I know where it can be a pain and how Xubuntu dealt with it. I'd do my best to be about for you all No way I could think about lead - I have Xubuntu to drag through the next 6 months QA wise regards -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Liferea unwanted deps
On 24/10/15 19:17, cqs wrote: Hi, I wanted to install Liferea on my new Ubuntu 15.10 system, but was surprised by the long list of (mainly KDE) dependencies to be installed in parallel with liferea. I guess something is broken with the .deb package. Can you advise please? [snip] There's a reported bug about this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liferea/+bug/1503352 Seems that liferea has steadyflow and kget listed as recommends - and steadyflow is not available in Wily. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New User Documentation
On 21/10/15 12:55, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 19:28:38 +0800, C. F. Howlett wrote: I'm not qualified to do all the tutorials, but I am willing to edit and standardize the writing. Any interest??? A proofreader [translator for Phantom English to English English] would be useful for the Ubuntu (Studio) help and Wiki pages ;). perhaps host it on LP like xubuntu-docs then even when it's dealt with now - fixes can be followed from bug to fix it can also then (I assume) be translated as well just a thought -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Package Testing
On 11/10/15 11:07, floccul...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Picking up from where elfy left off. There are currently 49 bugs on the package tracker. Which is a lot - makes it hard for people to even think about starting to deal with it. I'll add the list of what apps testcases are expected to be written for to the bottom of the mail. I don't use Ubuntu Studio so it's hard to know which is a standalone application and which are plugins for other applications you seed. So if something in the list is used within something else - it doesn't need a test itself, but needs testing as part of the other app, can someone mark those in the list if they can't be tested alone. I can mark the bug then and the list becomes smaller. So, to use the package tracker - there needs to be a Launchpad Release Team - does Studio have one? (This is how rights to edit the tracker are set up) A few questions : * What appetite is there amongst you to both write the tests and keep them up to date? * What do you expect to gain? Is it worth the effort? Someone needs to watch the tracker - check reported bugs? It might be that you're better off as you are - without using the tracker. regards [snip] Something I neglected to mention - testcases like this work best when they're short. So if it would take a while (maybe 30 minutes min) to run something - thinking about audio/graphic production then I'm not sure about the value. You might be better exploratory testing - probably what you do - that is run with the dev version and report bugs. thanks -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] Package Testing
Picking up from where elfy left off. There are currently 49 bugs on the package tracker. Which is a lot - makes it hard for people to even think about starting to deal with it. I'll add the list of what apps testcases are expected to be written for to the bottom of the mail. I don't use Ubuntu Studio so it's hard to know which is a standalone application and which are plugins for other applications you seed. So if something in the list is used within something else - it doesn't need a test itself, but needs testing as part of the other app, can someone mark those in the list if they can't be tested alone. I can mark the bug then and the list becomes smaller. So, to use the package tracker - there needs to be a Launchpad Release Team - does Studio have one? (This is how rights to edit the tracker are set up) A few questions : * What appetite is there amongst you to both write the tests and keep them up to date? * What do you expect to gain? Is it worth the effort? Someone needs to watch the tracker - check reported bugs? It might be that you're better off as you are - without using the tracker. regards Currently listed testcase bugs: * Aeolus * Agave (Done but not released to tracker) * Alacarte * Ardour * Blender * Calfjackhost * Darktable * DVDStyler * FFado Mixer * Fontforge * Font Manager * Foo-Yc20 * GCM Picker * GCM Viewer * Gladish * Guitarix * Hexter * Hydrogen * Jack Rack * Jamin * Kdenlive * Krita * Lady Player * Lady System Log * Lmms * Lv2rack * Mudita24 * Openshot * Patchage * Phasex * PureData * Qjackctl * Qjadeo * qtractor (In Progress) * QMidiroute * Rakarrack * Rapid Photo Downloader * Rawtherapee * Record My Desktop * Scribus (In Progress) * SooperLooper * Specimen * Subtitle Editor * SynfigStudio * Virtual Keyboard * Xine * Yoshimi -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel