Re: feedback on new wiki theme
Am 06.09.2008 um 00:00 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:31 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: >> This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to >> me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers >> (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an >> awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid >> rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same >> issue. It ends up looking rather cramped on all my computers and more >> like a blog site (perhaps because of the ubiquity of some of >> Wordpresses past default themes :-) ). > > There is one usability issue with letting the content get too wide, > however. For me, the content is too wide already. With the new theme I have to scroll sideways. The old theme works better in this regard. > The reason is that as the lines get longer, it becomes more > difficult to track which line one is reading. Correct. I'll never understand why people find it convenient to have fullscreen (text) windows on a device like 1920 pixels wide. Nevertheless, many people use fullscreen windows, screen sizes vary widely, and the most democratic solution is to avoid the insistence and use variable width rendering for web pages. Helps PDA users a lot as well. my o.o2 MarKus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bugs for NM 0.7
To add to this, we have some serious regressions with problems of not being able to consistently apply static IPs as well as custom MTU values: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/258743 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/256054 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=548114 I'm concerned that gnome seem to be pushing through beta 1, beta 2 and onwards without resolving these bugs. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 06:07:49PM -0400, Connor Imes wrote: > Jordan Mantha wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Recently I've been developing a new theme which is intended to replace > >> the existing themes on the documentation wiki > >> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community). The intention of the theme is to > >> make reading the wiki easier for a user (so the interface should be > >> cleaner) and for an editor (so there is an editbar at the bottom of > >> the screen which follows the window as you scroll). My top priority for editing would be to put "save changes" next to the comment on the edit, at end of edit box. This would help folks add comments which I find very helpful (and almost mandatory on wikipedia) The most problematic dimension on my screen is vertical. The floating footer takes yet more vertical space away from the viewing and edit window, and that makes it much harder to have enough context when I read or edit. So I'd leave those at the top, or put them at the bottom of the whole page if you prefer. It would also help to tighten up or move the help examples in the edit window. When I preview an edit, I hate scrolling past the edit window to get to the preview. I find that my name at the bottom overlaps text while editing. More comments below > > This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to > > me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers > > (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an > > awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid > > rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same > > issue. It ends up looking rather cramped on all my computers and more > > like a blog site (perhaps because of the ubiquity of some of > > Wordpresses past default themes :-) ). I agree with the desire to have a fluid view. When I want a narrow one I'll make my window narrow. I know there are different preferences on that, but that is my preference, both for this wiki and for ubuntu.com. But I don't see why we would need to preserve the lack of fluidity of ubuntu.com - we could keep the same branding and just change the fluidity. I figure a wiki has a different mission and much simpler layout than more complicated custom professional ubuntu.com pages. > I like the new theme as well, and agree that the page should not be > statically sized. If we want to implement the static size somewhere, it > may be more appropriate for the official docs, not the community > documentation (then it's more like reading a book or a manual). Right. > -I also noticed that the Tabs in the upper right are gone, so it feels a > bit empty on that part of the page. Will these be re-added? Right. It seems to me that the tabs are pretty important. > -I think the Page History link at the end of a page should be in the > non-moving footer. I use page history more than edit or subscribe, so I'd like it there also. > -The "copyright" part of the footer seems a little awkward. I think we > can condense it so that there isn't whitespace between the two lines. Yes - tighter would be my preference. Beyond that - I definitely appreciate attention to updating the theme. I like the smaller text. Thanks! Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ > Ideas for improvement aside, I really like this theme - it doesn't > really take any getting used to (which is good), and looks much more > clean and professional than the older theme. I really hope we can have > this ready in advance of Intrepid. Thanks for making this happen! > > -Connor -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: [ubuntu-web] feedback on new wiki theme
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jordan! > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Jordan Mantha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to >> me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers >> (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an >> awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid >> rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same >> issue. > > I did think about this, but one of the points of the theme was to be > consistent with the ubuntu.com website. As a result I'm pretty > reluctant to depart from that unless the ubuntu.com website design > changes. I don't think that a documentation website and the main website need to be consistent (beside basic branding). They just serve for different purpouses. And while the new theme is nice and I applaud your effort, I still like the old theme more. Stefano -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:31 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: >> This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to >> me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers >> (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an >> awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid >> rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same >> issue. It ends up looking rather cramped on all my computers and more >> like a blog site (perhaps because of the ubiquity of some of >> Wordpresses past default themes :-) ). > > There is one usability issue with letting the content get too wide, > however. If you've ever used LaTeX, it defaults to something like 65 > char/line. The reason is that as the lines get longer, it becomes more > difficult to track which line one is reading. Upon reaching the end of > the line, the eyes must scroll much further left to find the beginning > of the next line, and the longer the lines are the harder it is to track > and the more likely one is to do that thing where a line is read twice > or a line is skipped. You'll also notice this principle in how > newspapers and textbooks do columns. Right, I'm certainly aware of that usability issue, but I think it's better left to the user to decide the width than to keep it fixed. -Jordan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
Hi Jordan! On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:31 PM, Jordan Mantha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to > me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers > (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an > awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid > rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same > issue. I did think about this, but one of the points of the theme was to be consistent with the ubuntu.com website. As a result I'm pretty reluctant to depart from that unless the ubuntu.com website design changes. That's probably a discussion we could have separately on the ubuntu-website list (which I'm adding back into cc). -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 14:31 -0700, Jordan Mantha wrote: > This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to > me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers > (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an > awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid > rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same > issue. It ends up looking rather cramped on all my computers and more > like a blog site (perhaps because of the ubiquity of some of > Wordpresses past default themes :-) ). There is one usability issue with letting the content get too wide, however. If you've ever used LaTeX, it defaults to something like 65 char/line. The reason is that as the lines get longer, it becomes more difficult to track which line one is reading. Upon reaching the end of the line, the eyes must scroll much further left to find the beginning of the next line, and the longer the lines are the harder it is to track and the more likely one is to do that thing where a line is read twice or a line is skipped. You'll also notice this principle in how newspapers and textbooks do columns. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I've been developing a new theme which is intended to replace > the existing themes on the documentation wiki > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community). The intention of the theme is to > make reading the wiki easier for a user (so the interface should be > cleaner) and for an editor (so there is an editbar at the bottom of > the screen which follows the window as you scroll). > > This is a call for testing and feedback of the theme. I'd really like > to implement a similar theme for the development wiki at > wiki.ubuntu.com if the feedback is positive. > > To test the theme, log into the help wiki and go to the preferences > page (UserPreferences). Set the theme to 'ubuntunew' (you can easily > set it back later). Then just edit a few pages and see what you think. > > It still needs some work in terms of the fonts and rigorous testing > with non-firefox browsers, but I'd appreciate any additional feedback > that people have at this stage. Please send comments to me, or if you > are really keen, patches! The code is here: > > https://code.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme This is a very nice theme and looks more professional and usable to me. My only complaint is that it's rather narrow on all my computers (widescreen laptop and LCD displays). It looks like we're losing an awful lot of screen real estate. Is it possible to make it a fluid rather than fixed width theme? http://www.ubuntu.com has the same issue. It ends up looking rather cramped on all my computers and more like a blog site (perhaps because of the ubiquity of some of Wordpresses past default themes :-) ). -Jordan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
2008/9/6 Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do not see anything as having changed. Could you post a few static >> pages, both with the new and old themes? > > There are some screenshots here - http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/wikitheme/ > > Note that the testing theme is available on the *help* wiki, at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community and not the development wiki yet. > I would see the same thing in the screenshots that you do. Post actual pages that I can test with different page widths, text sizes, and other browser options. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do not see anything as having changed. Could you post a few static > pages, both with the new and old themes? There are some screenshots here - http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/wikitheme/ Note that the testing theme is available on the *help* wiki, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community and not the development wiki yet. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: feedback on new wiki theme
2008/9/5 Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > Recently I've been developing a new theme which is intended to replace > the existing themes on the documentation wiki > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community). The intention of the theme is to > make reading the wiki easier for a user (so the interface should be > cleaner) and for an editor (so there is an editbar at the bottom of > the screen which follows the window as you scroll). > > This is a call for testing and feedback of the theme. I'd really like > to implement a similar theme for the development wiki at > wiki.ubuntu.com if the feedback is positive. > > To test the theme, log into the help wiki and go to the preferences > page (UserPreferences). Set the theme to 'ubuntunew' (you can easily > set it back later). Then just edit a few pages and see what you think. > > It still needs some work in terms of the fonts and rigorous testing > with non-firefox browsers, but I'd appreciate any additional feedback > that people have at this stage. Please send comments to me, or if you > are really keen, patches! The code is here: > > https://code.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme > I do not see anything as having changed. Could you post a few static pages, both with the new and old themes? -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
feedback on new wiki theme
Hi, Recently I've been developing a new theme which is intended to replace the existing themes on the documentation wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community). The intention of the theme is to make reading the wiki easier for a user (so the interface should be cleaner) and for an editor (so there is an editbar at the bottom of the screen which follows the window as you scroll). This is a call for testing and feedback of the theme. I'd really like to implement a similar theme for the development wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com if the feedback is positive. To test the theme, log into the help wiki and go to the preferences page (UserPreferences). Set the theme to 'ubuntunew' (you can easily set it back later). Then just edit a few pages and see what you think. It still needs some work in terms of the fonts and rigorous testing with non-firefox browsers, but I'd appreciate any additional feedback that people have at this stage. Please send comments to me, or if you are really keen, patches! The code is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~mdke/ubuntu-doc/helpwiki-newtheme -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub 1024D/0E6B06FF -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Ubuntu netbook remix upgrades
Just a simple question, and this may not even be the right place for it, so my apologies beforehand. I am wondering if the Ubuntu Netbook Remix will also upgrade to intrepid when it is released in October? (j/w for if i purchase a Dell Mini). Thanks, ~Brian C. Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. --Wernher Von Braun "The second law of thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now, JUST WAIT!!" -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bugs for NM 0.7
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Peteris Krisjanis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Btw, a slight offtopic from this message, but does it mean that there > will be no network-admin from g-s-t in Ibex? > > Would be very sad if that happened. It won't be installed by default. However, it is still in the archive in the gnome-network-admin package. NM 0.7 seems to have gotten to the place where it has basically all the same features so having 2 tools to do the same thing becomes an issue. I was really against removing the g-s-t network admin tool, but after using and testing NM 0.7 in Intrepid for a while I think it'll be a good move for users. -Jordan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: ufw package integration
Olá Didier e a todos. On Friday 05 September 2008 07:51:34 Didier Roche wrote: > (Sorry of top post as gmail seems to be used to it...) Firefox addon BetterGmail2 http://ginatrapani.org/workshop/firefox/bettergmail2/ Allows you to do bottom posting on GMail. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: USB installer (was Foundations team meeting minutes, 2008-09-03)
> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/usb-installation-images > https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator > > > And what is that system-cleaner? > > https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cleanup-cruft thanks to both. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Bugs for NM 0.7
Btw, a slight offtopic from this message, but does it mean that there will be no network-admin from g-s-t in Ibex? Would be very sad if that happened. Peter. 2008/9/5 Thomas Novin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello > > I recall reading something about if you file bugs on NM 0.7 you should > prefix the summary with NM 0.7. Is that correct? > > I have created 6 bugs for NM 0.7 but they are all untouched. > > NM 0.7 Regression from 0.6.6 using VPNC plugin > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262191 > NM 0.7 Hard to fix if you have saved passwords for vpnc plugin (possible > others) > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262214 > NM 0.7 GSM/3G signal strength is not reported by NM > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262232 > NM 0.7 VPNC plugin is missing option DNSUpdate No > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262234 > NM 0.7 Sony Ericsson P1i isn't recognized as a 3G modem > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262399 > NM 0.7 No option for connecting to L2TP IPSEC VPN > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/264691 -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Errors on 8.04 upgrade page?
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 06:28:11AM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote: > Hi, > > http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading > > For the upgrade Dapper -> Hardy, it recommends either "update-manager > -d" or "do-release-upgrade -d". However, in both cases the -d switch > checks for the next development release, which seems to me not to be > Hardy. > > There just was a case on the -users list where this led to trouble: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-August/157269.html > > Is this as bad as it looks and should this be filed as a bug? The instructions at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading have been updated with regards to how to perform an upgrade from Dapper to Hardy. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. -- Brian Murray @ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: OpenOffice 3 and Firefox 3.1 in Intrepid?
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 11:30 +0530, Vishal Rao wrote: > What is the latest status of the possibility of including OOo 3 and FF > 3.1 by default in Intrepid? OpenOffice.org 3.0 will be in Intrepid but it is looking like it will not be as the primary version that is installed by default. The release candidate and final dates for OOo 3 were originally set to Jul 25th and Sep 2 respectively, but OOo has slipped a lot from those dates. OOo 3.0rc1 is still not released yet, it is currently expected to be released on Sept 8 which puts the final release around Oct 20. That doesn't leave enough time to make it even marginally stable, since that would be only 3 days before the Intrepid release candidate. If OpenOffice.org had been able to keep closer to their originally stated schedules then this problem wouldn't have occurred. Chris -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: kvm sandbox upgrade tester
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 02:54:21PM +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > Olá Michael e a todos. Hi, sorry for my late reply, I was on vacation. > On Friday 08 August 2008 13:05:36 Michael Vogt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to ask for feedback/testing of the kvm "sandbox-upgrader" > > package that is currently in my ppa at: > > > > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main > > > > It contains two scripts that need to be run with sudo: > > - sandbox-clone-to-vm > > - sandbox-test-upgrade > > > > Thanks, > > Michael > > I'm going to use this to test the 2.6.27 next kernel. any advice before I > move? > > By the way is it : > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main > or > deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu intrepid main > ? If you run hardy, then please use: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mvo/ubuntu hardy main If you run intrepid you can just install the version in the archive. I think it will not auto upgrade you when you run intrepid because it will tell you that you already run intrepid. But you can still use the clone feature and then manually log into the cloned system. Cheers, Michael -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Bugs for NM 0.7
Hello I recall reading something about if you file bugs on NM 0.7 you should prefix the summary with NM 0.7. Is that correct? I have created 6 bugs for NM 0.7 but they are all untouched. NM 0.7 Regression from 0.6.6 using VPNC plugin https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262191 NM 0.7 Hard to fix if you have saved passwords for vpnc plugin (possible others) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262214 NM 0.7 GSM/3G signal strength is not reported by NM https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262232 NM 0.7 VPNC plugin is missing option DNSUpdate No https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262234 NM 0.7 Sony Ericsson P1i isn't recognized as a 3G modem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262399 NM 0.7 No option for connecting to L2TP IPSEC VPN https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/264691 Rgds -- Thomas Novin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key: http://xyz.pp.se/~thnov/gpg.asc -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
Re: Resolving conflict in technical debates in an ideal world
Olá Daniel e a todos. On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:15:23 Daniel Holbach wrote: > The reason why I suggest making use calls to more directly interact is > that you can convey much more than the thoughts you have. You can hear > out small nuances in the voice of the participants, you get much more of > an impression who is speaking and how they mean what they say. It's far > easier, in a call, to avoid misunderstandings by asking for a > clarification early. The main problem with VoIP is the transcripts: there are none! We would have to resource to notes and ogg recordings. -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB My new micro-blog @ http://BUGabundo.net ps. My emails tend to sound authority and aggressive. I'm sorry in advance. I'll try to be more assertive as time goes by... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss