Re: Java deb package

2009-11-04 Thread Florian Widmer
Probably not... If you manually edit the file, I think it's legally
exactly the same as if you click on "I accept" while installing the
package with the graphical tool.

Best regards,
florian

Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 17:18 +0100, John Dong a écrit :
> Doing so probably upsets some Sun legal fairies
> On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Onkar Shinde wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Evan Hazlett  
> >  wrote:
> >> Greetings...
> >>
> >> Is there any way to bypass the license agreement for the sun-java6- 
> >> jre
> >> package making it possible to silently install the package?
> >>
> >
> > Try this.
> > sudo debconf-set-selections
> >
> > And then inter following lines.
> > sun-java6-bin   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
> > sun-java6-jre   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
> > sun-java6-jre   sun-java6-jre/stopthreadboolean true
> > sun-java6-jre   sun-java6-jre/jcepolicy note
> > sun-java6-bin   shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note
> > sun-java6-jre   shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note
> >
> > Press Ctrl + D to finish the process.
> >
> >
> > Onkar
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Re: System Beep problem

2009-11-04 Thread John Vivirito
On 11/04/09 15:40, Aurélien Naldi wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, John Vivirito  wrote:
>> How do i turn system beep back on in Karmic. The sound that is
>> used now is just a "thud" sound. Only have ~4 other choices in
>> the sound preference.
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I discovered today that pcspkr, the module responsible for system
> beeps, is blacklisted on karmic.
> I have been blacklisting it after each install for years, and thus
> love this change!
> 
> You can remove it from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to get the old 
> behaviour.
> 
> Is it a better way to un-blacklist a module?
> 
> Best regards.
> 
I had it un-commented for a while but i will try removing it
and see what happens
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Re: [OT] Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgrade I have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Hi,

  I've had a good-bad-great experience with Karmic.

  FWIW, I started back with Feisty.

  Right now, I am _very_ pleased with the way my system
  is working, although some "adjusting" has been needed,
  and was somewhat "uncomfortable" initially -- that is,
  getting all the stuff I use confirmed working.

  Karmic is the first time that compiz has been a big
  FAIL on my ThinkPad T41s (see attached).

  I don't like "eye candy", so had "Change Desktop
  Background" -> "Visual Effects" set to "None". When
  I updated my machine, it worked, and worked well.

  Jaunty had started being a dog with Firefox and I was
  seriously thinking of going back to Intrepid (it kept
  getting worse month by month).  When Karmic beta
  came out, I punted and went there.  It was marvelous.
  I even apologized (not out loud) for the venting (not out
  loud) I had been doing about how badly Firefox is
  supported on Linux (which IMO, it still is badly supported
  on Linux compared to Microsoft Windows).

  When I went to upgrade two other T41s (same model,
  9FU). when starting Firefox, the system would hard
  hang with a mostly invisible trapezoid looking like
  it was flipping down into place.  After a day of pondering,
  my son-in-law found that if he immediately went into
  the "Change Desktop Background" and switched from
  "Normal" to "None" the hard hang did not happen.

  Further, we found that even running metacity with
  "compositing" ON causes things to really crawl on
  this model machine... So there is something more
  going on in Karmic than before.

  This is a pain, BUT not that insurmountable.  So, I
  am wondering how many others there are out there
  that have had some similar unexplained "hangs"
  that have sent them off "barking up the wrong tree"??

  I am hopeful that someone who works in the deep
  innards of compiz and other "compositing" window
  managers can identify where the issues are, and
  perhaps review the properties selected when the
  "configuring" based on discovered hardware is done.

  Perhaps shipping without advanced graphics
  enabled (none vs normal) would be better. Also,
  having a better way to diagnose whether older
  hardware can handle  the newer features would be
  helpful.

  Also, if one has a running system, and then is
  cautioned about adding features incrementally and
  testing between each addition, would keep folks
  from sliding off the road.

Cheers,
  --ldl

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:21 AM, kkissling  wrote:
> Jonathan Ernst schrieb folgendes am 04.11.2009 09:45:
>> Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 09:15 +0100, kkissling a écrit :
>> [...]
>>


>>> The keyords are "in the past". Those things happend when I upgraded from
>>> 7.10 to 8.04. Did "do-release-upgrade" already exist back than? Anyway,
>>> good advice, I didn't know that command yet.
>>>
>>
>> It already existed in 6.10
>>
> Interesting, thanks! When I checked that I found this helpful page that
> describes upgrading older systems which reached their end-of-life:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
>
> br
> Kristian
>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
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Re: System Beep problem

2009-11-04 Thread Aurélien Naldi
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:53 PM, John Vivirito  wrote:
> How do i turn system beep back on in Karmic. The sound that is
> used now is just a "thud" sound. Only have ~4 other choices in
> the sound preference.

Hi,

I discovered today that pcspkr, the module responsible for system
beeps, is blacklisted on karmic.
I have been blacklisting it after each install for years, and thus
love this change!

You can remove it from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to get the old behaviour.

Is it a better way to un-blacklist a module?

Best regards.

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System Beep problem

2009-11-04 Thread John Vivirito
How do i turn system beep back on in Karmic. The sound that is
used now is just a "thud" sound. Only have ~4 other choices in
the sound preference.

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Re: Java deb package

2009-11-04 Thread John Dong
Doing so probably upsets some Sun legal fairies
On Nov 4, 2009, at 5:18 AM, Onkar Shinde wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Evan Hazlett  
>  wrote:
>> Greetings...
>>
>> Is there any way to bypass the license agreement for the sun-java6- 
>> jre
>> package making it possible to silently install the package?
>>
>
> Try this.
> sudo debconf-set-selections
>
> And then inter following lines.
> sun-java6-bin shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
> sun-java6-jre shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
> sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jre/stopthreadboolean true
> sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jre/jcepolicy note
> sun-java6-bin shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note
> sun-java6-jre shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note
>
> Press Ctrl + D to finish the process.
>
>
> Onkar
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Re: Bug or feature on the Clock

2009-11-04 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Alarcón Vladimir
 wrote:
> Hi, I don't know if this is the right thread to post a missing feature I've 
> found.
>
> when I you click on the clock that appears by default in Ubuntu 9.04 & 9.10, 
> it shows you a calendar where weeks start on Sunday (thru Saturday). That's 
> fine for English, but in Spanish (maybe other languages too) weeks start on 
> Monday (thru Sunday).
>
> I looked in Preferences but I couldn't find any option to change the first 
> day of the week, as in Windows for example.
>
> Is it possible to submit a feature request here?
>
> I mean, is confusing (for me) to see weeks starting on Sunday.

What locale are you using? The different locales found under
/usr/share/i18n/locales/ have a "first_weekday" For cultures like
en_US were Sunday is considered the first day of the week, the line
should read  "first_weekday 1" Cultures that begin the week on Mondays
should have  "first_weekday 2" GNOME's calendar applet should follow
these settings.

If the locale setting for your culture is wrong, please file a bug
against the "langpack-locales" package.

Thanks!

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hibernating and wake up process in ubuntu

2009-11-04 Thread solaris manzur
ubuntu fails to hibernate successfully, it las a lot AND no progress bar is
shown so it is terrific
when waking up, no progress bar is shown neither just a tiny letter are
shown below and after I type my password it crashes.

I decided to comment it in here because besides the last part about password
is a bug... we have no progress bar that help us, we need to develop
something
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Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 36, Issue 12

2009-11-04 Thread Davyd McColl
>
> --
>
> Message: 5
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:44:07 +0100,  Michael Vogt wrote:
> > First and foremost I'm sorry that you had such a bad upgrade
> > experience. We work hard to make it smooth and painless and take the
> > bugs/issues very seriously.
> Thanks. Sorry if I seemed a little disappointed -- I was. This is the first
> time that I've encountered a real show-stopper during upgrade.
>


> > If you still have access to the logs, could you please report a bug or
> > mail me the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade/* ? I would really like
> > to know what happend there. Given that your sources.list got udated
> > (see below) I'm pretty sure there is useful log information available.
>
I'll check tonight -- the machine is at home

>
>
> > So you stopped it and killed the session (that update-manager was
> > running in) yourself? It was not the upgrade process that kicked you
> > out? I assume you answered "no, please stop the upgrade" at the
> > debconf prompt? I see that you reported bug #471436, I assume the
> > pre-isnt exit there (comment #2) is the result of clicking cancel).
>
Pretty-much, yeah, if memory serves.

>
> > Thanks, indi and wicd have no open bugs about this it seems, could you
> > please report them and include the failure?
>
> Sorry:
1) the indi issue happened at a VT, so no automagic reporting ):
2) the wicd issue was a proverbial camel's-back breaker. I was just getting
hellin with all the reports that I was filing. I'll give it a bash tonight.


> > Please also file a bug about the grub problem, with the apt terminal
> > log included. I suspect that grub somehow got removed during the
> > upgrade but the logs should give us more details.
>
Sorry, I don't have the terminal logs available -- it was in  VT. But I do
remember seeing it go past, and it had "appeared" to install OK. Also, dpkg
-S /boot/grub/stage1 (iirc) reported the source grub package (perhaps
grub-common? I'm not on the machine now, so this is from memory...). The
package, for all intents and purposes, appeared to be installed. I don't
mind logging a bug against this, but I'm quite sure that with the lack of
useful information, the log will just waste a dev's time ):


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Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 36, Issue 10

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Vogt
On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 10:38:35AM +0200, Davyd McColl wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:07:58 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> 
> > I don't think that the OP provided enough information to understand
> > what went wrong during his upgrade; it does seem that he may have tried
> > update-manager first and resorted to the manual process only once it
> > failed.

First and foremost I'm sorry that you had such a bad upgrade
experience. We work hard to make it smooth and painless and take the
bugs/issues very seriously.
 
> Apologies if I wasn't quite clear -- I have been known to ramble a little.
> At the risk of once again flooding the mailing list with useless information
> (sorry!), here is the sequence of events leading up to the issues at hand:
> 
> 1) Notice update-manager icon in the tray; clicky!
> 2) Get update-manager screen telling me that I have about 4 packages that
> may be updated.
> 3) Update-manager refreshes to show the "New release available frame". Like
> an OCD spider-monkey on crack, I click on that thing!
> 4) Another dialog pops up, starting the upgrade process that I've been
> accustomed to (downloading scripts, etc)
> 5) This dies ): No idea why, really. Just death, cold, alone, and without so
> much as a crash report.

If you still have access to the logs, could you please report a bug or
mail me the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade/* ? I would really like
to know what happend there. Given that your sources.list got udated
(see below) I'm pretty sure there is useful log information available.

> 6) I re-launch update-manager from the tray icon, to find that I now have in
> the order of 1000 packages that can be "upgraded". The "update to new
> release" frame doesn't re-appear. For all intents and purposes, it appears
> as if my machine has been morphed into a Koala with some negative karma
> points and a lot of upgrading ahead. I'm not daunted -- this looks like what
> I would expect if I were to manually edit my sources and do a dist-upgrade.
> So I click on "update"
>
> 7) After some time, the libc6 issue appears, asking me, via standard
> gtk-style deb messages, to restart, amongst other things, gdm. At this
> point, I drop out to a VT, stop gdm myself, and progress with apt-get
> dist-upgrade, thinking that the package manager for libc6 is probably a lot
> smarter than me and has his/her reasons for requesting a restart of gdm, as
> well as realising that if I don't do this in a VT, I have an endless loop
> ahead of me.

So you stopped it and killed the session (that update-manager was
running in) yourself? It was not the upgrade process that kicked you
out? I assume you answered "no, please stop the upgrade" at the
debconf prompt? I see that you reported bug #471436, I assume the
pre-isnt exit there (comment #2) is the result of clicking cancel).

> 8) rounds of apt-get dist-upgrade interspersed with apt-get install -f until
> things seem calm. The occasional dpkg --purge of conflicting packages that I
> don't essentially need (indi and d4x come to mind) and some manual fixing
> for packages with bad post-install scripts (wicd comes to mind)
[..]

Thanks, indi and wicd have no open bugs about this it seems, could you
please report them and include the failure? 

Please also file a bug about the grub problem, with the apt terminal
log included. I suspect that grub somehow got removed during the
upgrade but the logs should give us more details.

Thanks,
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Re: Java deb package

2009-11-04 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Evan Hazlett  wrote:
> Greetings...
>
> Is there any way to bypass the license agreement for the sun-java6-jre
> package making it possible to silently install the package?
>

Try this.
sudo debconf-set-selections

And then inter following lines.
sun-java6-bin   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
sun-java6-jre   shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1boolean true
sun-java6-jre   sun-java6-jre/stopthreadboolean true
sun-java6-jre   sun-java6-jre/jcepolicy note
sun-java6-bin   shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note
sun-java6-jre   shared/present-sun-dlj-v1-1 note

Press Ctrl + D to finish the process.


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[OT] Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgrade I have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread kkissling
Jonathan Ernst schrieb folgendes am 04.11.2009 09:45:
> Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 09:15 +0100, kkissling a écrit :
> [...] 
>   
>>>   
>>>   
>> The keyords are "in the past". Those things happend when I upgraded from 
>> 7.10 to 8.04. Did "do-release-upgrade" already exist back than? Anyway, 
>> good advice, I didn't know that command yet.
>> 
>
> It already existed in 6.10
>   
Interesting, thanks! When I checked that I found this helpful page that 
describes upgrading older systems which reached their end-of-life: 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades

br
Kristian

> Best regards
>
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Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgradeI have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread Joao Pinto
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Ethan Baldridge
 wrote:
> Out of curiosity, what does "do-release-upgrade" do that editing your 
> sources.list, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && 
> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" wouldn't do?

It covers some specific cases which can't be handled by a regular
package upgrade, for details check:
/usr/share/pyshared/DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py

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Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgrade I have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 09:15 +0100, kkissling a écrit :
[...] 
> >   
> The keyords are "in the past". Those things happend when I upgraded from 
> 7.10 to 8.04. Did "do-release-upgrade" already exist back than? Anyway, 
> good advice, I didn't know that command yet.

It already existed in 6.10

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Re: Ubuntu-devel-discuss Digest, Vol 36, Issue 10

2009-11-04 Thread Davyd McColl
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:07:58 +0100, Mario Vukelic wrote:

> I don't think that the OP provided enough information to understand
> what went wrong during his upgrade; it does seem that he may have tried
> update-manager first and resorted to the manual process only once it
> failed.

Apologies if I wasn't quite clear -- I have been known to ramble a little.
At the risk of once again flooding the mailing list with useless information
(sorry!), here is the sequence of events leading up to the issues at hand:

1) Notice update-manager icon in the tray; clicky!
2) Get update-manager screen telling me that I have about 4 packages that
may be updated.
3) Update-manager refreshes to show the "New release available frame". Like
an OCD spider-monkey on crack, I click on that thing!
4) Another dialog pops up, starting the upgrade process that I've been
accustomed to (downloading scripts, etc)
5) This dies ): No idea why, really. Just death, cold, alone, and without so
much as a crash report.
6) I re-launch update-manager from the tray icon, to find that I now have in
the order of 1000 packages that can be "upgraded". The "update to new
release" frame doesn't re-appear. For all intents and purposes, it appears
as if my machine has been morphed into a Koala with some negative karma
points and a lot of upgrading ahead. I'm not daunted -- this looks like what
I would expect if I were to manually edit my sources and do a dist-upgrade.
So I click on "update"
7) After some time, the libc6 issue appears, asking me, via standard
gtk-style deb messages, to restart, amongst other things, gdm. At this
point, I drop out to a VT, stop gdm myself, and progress with apt-get
dist-upgrade, thinking that the package manager for libc6 is probably a lot
smarter than me and has his/her reasons for requesting a restart of gdm, as
well as realising that if I don't do this in a VT, I have an endless loop
ahead of me.
8) rounds of apt-get dist-upgrade interspersed with apt-get install -f until
things seem calm. The occasional dpkg --purge of conflicting packages that I
don't essentially need (indi and d4x come to mind) and some manual fixing
for packages with bad post-install scripts (wicd comes to mind)
9) restart gdm. Desktop starts up. Update-manager claims I still have
upgrading to do -- I let it.
10) update-manager and apt both agree that my machine is up to date. The
"reboot" icon prevails in my tray, so, like a well-trained bdsm sub, I go
for the 'boot.
11) Death. No working grub, and I'm unable to resurrect grub from a live
boot of a Debian Lenny dvd (which I'm using because my ubuntu download
wasn't done yet and this is the most recent 64-bit live dvd that I have) --
grub-install complains about "read errors" for the installed stage1 file on
my ubuntu filesystem. Re-installing grub debs on that filesystem in a
chrooted shell don't cause the problem to go away. I cry, gently, to myself,
in the corner and shake my fist all cute, furry, bear-like creatures.
12) I boot into win7 and leave ubuntu 9.10 64bit iso downloading. I'm mildy
infuriated when the stupid win7 OS reboots in the middle of the night, and
restart the download in the morning. I do basically the same thing through
the Ubuntu 9.10 cd that I attempted with the Lenny cd:
 i) boot cd, mount my original root fs
 ii) grub-install  --root-directory=
--recheck --no-floppy
 iii) grub seems installed. Yay!
13) Reboot. Grub is, indeed, installed -- but doesn't seem to have a clue
about my config -- I just have a grub shell. Lucky for me, I've spent time
in this mystical place before. Unluckily for me, this version of grub no
longer understands the "kernel" parameter. The "help" command, the pause key
and a certain amount of Clint-Eastwood-like lucky-punkness provide me with a
command "linux", which I try -- and it works just like the old "kernel" one
did. After a little messing about, I have my old install alive again, and I
re-run grub-installer there, with no arguments. A reboot shows a working
grub menu and some sense of order is restored to my little world.

On a positive note: the entire system seems a lot more responsive now. I'm
assuming that a lot of that has to do with the kernel upgrade. Still, it's
nice to see my ath64 6400x2 behaving like the beasty it should be (or was,
when I bought it... )

-d
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Java deb package

2009-11-04 Thread Evan Hazlett
Greetings...

Is there any way to bypass the license agreement for the sun-java6-jre
package making it possible to silently install the package?

Thanks,
Evan

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Bug or feature on the Clock

2009-11-04 Thread Alarcón Vladimir
Hi, I don't know if this is the right thread to post a missing feature I've 
found.

when I you click on the clock that appears by default in Ubuntu 9.04 & 9.10, it 
shows you a calendar where weeks start on Sunday (thru Saturday). That's fine 
for English, but in Spanish (maybe other languages too) weeks start on Monday 
(thru Sunday).

I looked in Preferences but I couldn't find any option to change the first day 
of the week, as in Windows for example. 

Is it possible to submit a feature request here?

I mean, is confusing (for me) to see weeks starting on Sunday.

Thanks,
Vladimir




  

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Problem shutting down / reboot after upgrade

2009-11-04 Thread Chin Shi Hong
To the developers,

Although I am not the subscriber of the development mailing list yet. But, I
am having problem shutting down / restarting Ubuntu after upgrading from
Ubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10.

You may read my post at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308731 .

I installed Ubuntu 9.04 through *Wubi*, then upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 by
using update manager in Ubuntu.

After that, when I try to shut down or restart Ubuntu, I get the following
error message:

"[ xxx.xx] buffer I/O error on device loop0, logical block xx".

I have not reported this bug at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs yet.
Should I report this bug, please do not feel hesitate to tell me.

Any action in solving the problem will be appreciated.

Regards,
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mysql server 5.0 on ubuntu 8.10

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Brawley
This ubuntu system has mysql server 5.0.67 installed. The most recent 
mysql 5.0 version is 5.0.87. However running...

sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0

elicits the response:

mysql-server-5.0 is already the latest version

which isn't so. How do I fix this?

G.

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xkeyboard-config source code repository

2009-11-04 Thread Alexey Ten (Lynn)
Hello.

Is there public readable repository of Ubuntu version xkeyboard-config package?
Ubuntu branch at http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-xorg/data/xkb-data.git
last updated 9 month ago.

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Re: Bug in Ubuntu One - where and how to report it

2009-11-04 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
2009/10/31 Ioannis Vranos :
> OS: Ubuntu 9.10 x64.
>
>
> I have created a free account in Ubuntu one, and I am having only one
> PC, a laptop. However it prompts me again and again, to add the machine,
> as if it is a different machine, and now two machines are listed in
> "Computers on your account".
>
> I have erased one or more entries previously.
>
>
> Where an I fill a bug report for it?
>

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client

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Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgrade I have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread kkissling
Jonathan Ernst schrieb folgendes am 04.11.2009 09:08:
> Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 08:58 +0100, kkissling a écrit : 
>   
>> [...]
>> I made the same experience several times in the past. Sometimes even 
>> "apt-get install -f" failed and I had to manually uninstall certain 
>> packages in order to move on. So what I learned from this experience is 
>> to always use the official way of upgrading. It always worked well, but 
>> its of cause not the best possible solution if you prefer the commandline :/
>> 
>
> If you prefer the command line, do-release-upgrade works just fine.
>
>
>   
The keyords are "in the past". Those things happend when I upgraded from 
7.10 to 8.04. Did "do-release-upgrade" already exist back than? Anyway, 
good advice, I didn't know that command yet.

br
Kristian


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Re: upgrade from 9.04 - 9.10: the most broken Ubuntu / Debian upgrade I have ever experienced

2009-11-04 Thread Jonathan Ernst
Le mercredi 04 novembre 2009 à 08:58 +0100, kkissling a écrit : 
> [...]
> I made the same experience several times in the past. Sometimes even 
> "apt-get install -f" failed and I had to manually uninstall certain 
> packages in order to move on. So what I learned from this experience is 
> to always use the official way of upgrading. It always worked well, but 
> its of cause not the best possible solution if you prefer the commandline :/

If you prefer the command line, do-release-upgrade works just fine.



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