deja-dup keyring password

[ray burke]

Sir 9/2/2020,
I just today l downloaded deja-dup thru
synaptic package Manager, and then rebooted
to start an incremental backup of my system
to disk that my system K14.04 runs on.
But it request a default keyring password
before continuing on, but don't have one?
where do I get it from as only on Dial-up?

Yours Ray

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Buggy Networks(Probably Only UI)

[Arka Ray]

I have noticed a couple of bugs in the Networking options.

The bugs appear mostly after setting up a Wireless AP connection.

The network menu in the Indicators area just doesn't display any other 
wifi connections available when the AP is disabled.

The 'connect to Hidden Networks' option when used does not have the 
connect option enabled.

The only way to connect is to go to Network Settings which is a overkill 
for a job as simple as connecting to wifi networks.

I have noticed this problem with both 14.04 and 16.04(which is currently 
what I am using).

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Re: Confusing about building OpenStack Packages?

[Ray Sun]

Colin,
Thanks for your response.

I think finally I found this here:
https://launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/+archive/python-schroot

Best Regards
-- Ray


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Colin Watson  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:23:13PM +0800, Ray Sun wrote:
> >1. In step 5, we already can generate the deb packages without '-S',
> but
> >why we finally use 'sbuild' to generate it? Is this only for
> signature?
> >2. What's the difference between 'bzr builddeb' and 'sbuild'?
>
> The answer to both of these is the same: sbuild builds the package in a
> clean environment with only the necessary build-dependencies installed,
> which is much safer.  It also makes it feasible to build packages for an
> Ubuntu release that doesn't match the one you're running on your
> development environment.
>
> >I found the build scripts which jenkins used is located here:
> >~openstack-ubuntu-testing/openstack-ubuntu-testing, but when I try to
> run
> >any commands under bin, I always get:
> >
> >root@demo:~/openstack-ubuntu-testing/bin# ./build-package
> >Traceback (most recent call last):
> >  File "./build-package", line 14, in 
> >from openstack_ubuntu_testing.build.component_build import
> ComponentBuild
> >  File
> "/home/sysadmin/openstack-ubuntu-testing/bin/openstack_ubuntu_testing/build/component_build.py",
> > line 11, in 
> >from schroot.executor import SchrootExecutor
> >ImportError: No module named schroot.executor
>
> Good question.  I've been entirely unable to find this.  Adam, can you
> clarify where this module comes from?
>
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Confusing about building OpenStack Packages?

[Ray Sun]

Hello,
Actually I already publish this questions on AskUbuntu, but I think I
should also send to this mail list. Please help.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/341155/confusing-about-building-openstack-packages



I found OpenStack build task on Ubuntu QA site, but I am a little confusing
about the build steps.

Here's the link for build steps:
https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Openstack_Testing/view/Grizzly/job/precise_grizzly_keystone_stable/275/consoleText

>From the jenkins build log, I know the steps how ubuntu build a Openstack
packages:

   1. get openstack code from github, use git clone
   2. build openstack tar.gz file using python setup.py sdist
   3. use bzr to get the debian control files which is maintenance by
   cananical
   4. use dch command to generate a new build release and commit it to local
   5. use 'bzr builddeb -S -- -sa -us -uc' to generate source package and
   related control file, such like 'dsc'
   6. sign the package
   7. use 'mk-build-deps' to install dependency
   8. use 'sbuild' to generate the real deb packages
   9. upload to testing repos

My questions is:

   1. In step 5, we already can generate the deb packages without '-S', but
   why we finally use 'sbuild' to generate it? Is this only for signature?
   2. What's the difference between 'bzr builddeb' and 'sbuild'?
   3.

   I found the build scripts which jenkins used is located here:
   ~openstack-ubuntu-testing/openstack-ubuntu-testing, but when I try to run
   any commands under bin, I always get:

   root@demo:~/openstack-ubuntu-testing/bin# ./build-package
   Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "./build-package", line 14, in 
   from openstack_ubuntu_testing.build.component_build import ComponentBuild
 File 
"/home/sysadmin/openstack-ubuntu-testing/bin/openstack_ubuntu_testing/build/component_build.py",
line 11, in 
   from schroot.executor import SchrootExecutor
   ImportError: No module named schroot.executor


I tried to use pip to install schroot, but it seems they don't have a
executor in it.

Please help.

Best Regards
-- Ray
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Regarding manual partitioning on EFI systems

[Biswarup Ray]

I recently installed 13.04 final beta(Gnome version) on my Efi enabled
desktop. I selected "manual partitioning" option during installation. This
being my first installation of an OS supporting Efi, I was not aware of the
requirement of a separate EFI partition. The installer proceeded with the
installation without indicating that there was any problem and the
installation was otherwise correctly done except the Efi part. I discovered
this problem only after when the system refused to boot. I then
re-installed the whole system again after creating the EFI partition(I was
not sure chroot would work).

I am proposing that a warning system be included in the installer, which
will warn users if the EFI partition is absent during installation.

Thanks for listening,
Biswarup Ray
India
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Re: question about php5-ps

[Ray]

On November 29, 2012 12:24:05 PM Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from Ray's message of 2012-11-29 11:33:13 -0800:
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to use the package php5-ps (version 1.3.6-7build1, amd64) with
> > php5.4 (php5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1, amd64) both from the quantal repositories.
> > (system is running kubuntu 12.10 amd64) Scripts using this functionality
> > are seg faulting and dumping core (even sample code written by the
> > original author). The source code contains incompatibilities with php 5.4
> > and I am wondering if this is a symptom of being built on a system that
> > wasn't using php 5.4, or if there is another problem as well.
> 
> The packages were rebuilt with the PHP 5.4 API:
> 
> php-ps (1.3.6-7build1) quantal; urgency=low
> 
>   * No-change rebuild for phpapi change
>  -- Ilya BaryginSat, 30 Jun 2012 13:03:13 +0400
> 
> (Thanks Ilya!)
> 
> So its not that. However, it may very likely be this:
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-ps/+bug/1024207
> 
> Which in turn mentions this bug:
> 
> https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=58211
> 
> Both have patches for php-ps to make them 64-bit compatible. I'm not
> sure we would want to carry said patches in Ubuntu without upstream
> acknowledging them. Thats a problem, because from what I'm seeing,
> php-ps is woefully unmaintained.
> 
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&package_name[]=ps
> 
> So, you probably will want to re-evaluate whether or not its a good idea
> to make use of that particular extension (or perhaps you can contribute
> to its maintenance in the PECL project).
> 
> Meanwhile I've opened a grave bug against the Debian package, as it
> should probably be removed from Debian and future Ubuntu releases if it
> is in fact a dead upstream project.
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wow Clint, I'm impressed. You add to a bug report on a bug that's probably 4 
and a half years old and in about a day a fix has been uploaded to the debian 
repositories.
How long untill the debian fix will be carried on into the Ubuntu repositories?
Thanks again,
Ray


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Re: question about php5-ps

[Ray]

On November 29, 2012 12:24:05 PM Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from Ray's message of 2012-11-29 11:33:13 -0800:
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to use the package php5-ps (version 1.3.6-7build1, amd64) with
> > php5.4 (php5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1, amd64) both from the quantal repositories.
> > (system is running kubuntu 12.10 amd64) Scripts using this functionality
> > are seg faulting and dumping core (even sample code written by the
> > original author). The source code contains incompatibilities with php 5.4
> > and I am wondering if this is a symptom of being built on a system that
> > wasn't using php 5.4, or if there is another problem as well.
> 
> The packages were rebuilt with the PHP 5.4 API:
> 
> php-ps (1.3.6-7build1) quantal; urgency=low
> 
>   * No-change rebuild for phpapi change
>  -- Ilya BaryginSat, 30 Jun 2012 13:03:13 +0400
> 
> (Thanks Ilya!)
> 
> So its not that. However, it may very likely be this:
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-ps/+bug/1024207
> 
> Which in turn mentions this bug:
> 
> https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=58211
> 
> Both have patches for php-ps to make them 64-bit compatible. I'm not
> sure we would want to carry said patches in Ubuntu without upstream
> acknowledging them. Thats a problem, because from what I'm seeing,
> php-ps is woefully unmaintained.
> 
> https://bugs.php.net/search.php?cmd=display&package_name[]=ps
> 
> So, you probably will want to re-evaluate whether or not its a good idea
> to make use of that particular extension (or perhaps you can contribute
> to its maintenance in the PECL project).
> 
> Meanwhile I've opened a grave bug against the Debian package, as it
> should probably be removed from Debian and future Ubuntu releases if it
> is in fact a dead upstream project.
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Thank you for your help. 

Based on the description this is exactly my problem, although, having said 
that, I am curious why it worked under 11.04 Natty. I wrote some 'hobby' code 
using this extension in June 2011 on this same machine, and it worked then. 

It looks like I will eventually have to rewrite my code, but in the mean time, 
is there a process that will let me download the package source,   apply the 
patch locally, and then install the package. 

As to helping at PECL, I'm rather intimidated, but I will consider it.
Thanks again, 
Ray


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question about php5-ps

[Ray]

Hello,
I am trying to use the package php5-ps (version 1.3.6-7build1, amd64) with 
php5.4 (php5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1, amd64) both from the quantal repositories. 
(system is running kubuntu 12.10 amd64) Scripts using this functionality are 
seg faulting and dumping core (even sample code written by the original 
author). The source code contains incompatibilities with php 5.4 and I am 
wondering if this is a symptom of being built on a system that wasn't using 
php 5.4, or if there is another problem as well. 
I'd be happy to provide any useful information.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Ray

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Missing File

[Ray McCrum]

I am having Trouble getting this through to You.  Something in Your 
System is rejecting because of HTML attachments, which there are none 
that I am putting in here.


This is my 3rd try and I hope the last.  I have told my Thunderbird to 
send this in plain Text, I just hope that works.


Ray McCrum

-Main text

This should be an easy fix.

This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the Ubuntu 12.04 
beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.


I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''

I tried this several times, both using and not using the "-" between 
words like it is Printed in the PDF I downloaded from the Ubuntu Web 
Site last evening.  I also tried it with and with out the "; " at the 
end of the Line.


The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades found''.  I know 
the File has been released, because I downloaded a copy of it last 
evening also.  I do prefer to use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has 
worked so well on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing 
and configuring Software.


I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main Software, but I have 
the 11.10 version installed also, the last two weeks.


The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test New OS Systems 
about a Month before I really switch to them on a permanent basis.


One comment I would like to make is about the 'new' Desktop Programs, 
both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really like either of them, because 
they remove the 'Panels' that an individual can add Icons to for Quick 
Starting Software Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 
because is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18 
separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the standard Calender, 
Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut Down Menu in the top Panel on 
Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be done in the Unity Interface.  The 
''Dashboard'' is a time waster in finding the Programs I want to run.


Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be a great 
operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running has been the best I 
have ever owned in 28 Years I have been using Computers.


Thank You

Ray McCrum
Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net



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Fwd: Missing File

[Ray McCrum]

  
  
This message didn't
come through to You because something was accidentally
attached the First time.

I am sorry about that, and hope it works this time.

        Ray McCrum
  


  This should be an easy fix.
  
  This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the
  Ubuntu 12.04 beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.
  
  I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
          ''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''
  
  I tried this several times, both using and not using the
  "-" between words like it is Printed in the PDF I
  downloaded from the Ubuntu Web Site last evening.  I also
  tried it with and with out the "; " at the end of the
  Line.
  
  The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades
  found''.  I know the File has been released, because I
  downloaded a copy of it last evening also.  I do prefer to
  use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has worked so well
  on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing and
  configuring Software.
  
  I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main
  Software, but I have the 11.10 version installed also, the
  last two weeks.  
  
  The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test
  New OS Systems about a Month before I really switch to
  them on a permanent basis.
  
  One comment I would like to make is about the 'new'
  Desktop Programs, both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really
  like either of them, because they remove the 'Panels' that
  an individual can add Icons to for Quick Starting Software
  Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 because
  is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18
  separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the
  standard Calender, Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut
  Down Menu in the top Panel on Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be
  done in the Unity Interface.  The ''Dashboard'' is a time
  waster in finding the Programs I want to run.
  
  Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be
  a great operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running
  has been the best I have ever owned in 28 Years I have
  been using Computers.
  
  Thank You 
  
  Ray McCrum
      Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net 
  

  


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Missing File

[Ray McCrum]

  
  

  This should be an easy fix.
  
  This morning I tried to upgrade my Ubuntu 11.10 to the
  Ubuntu 12.04 beta2-desktop-amd64, which did not work.
  
  I went into the Terminal and typed in this Line.
          ''sudo do-­release-­upgrade ­d;''
  
  I tried this several times, both using and not using the
  "-" between words like it is Printed in the PDF I
  downloaded from the Ubuntu Web Site last evening.  I also
  tried it with and with out the "; " at the end of the
  Line.
  
  The only result I got was a Line that said "no upgrades
  found''.  I know the File has been released, because I
  downloaded a copy of it last evening also.  I do prefer to
  use the Automatic Upgrade, because it has worked so well
  on Ubuntu before, and saves so much time re-installing and
  configuring Software.
  
  I am currently using Ubuntu 10.04 L.T.S as my Main
  Software, but I have the 11.10 version installed also, the
  last two weeks.  
  
  The 11.10 appears to be working great, but I always test
  New OS Systems about a Month before I really switch to
  them on a permanent basis.
  
  One comment I would like to make is about the 'new'
  Desktop Programs, both Gnome3, and Unity.  I do not really
  like either of them, because they remove the 'Panels' that
  an individual can add Icons to for Quick Starting Software
  Programs.  I am using the Unity on my Ubuntu 11.10 because
  is it the 'lesser of the two evils'.  I normally keep 18
  separate Icons, plus the Drop Down Menu Box, and the
  standard Calender, Network Icon Volume Control, and Shut
  Down Menu in the top Panel on Ubuntu 10.04.  That can't be
  done in the Unity Interface.  The ''Dashboard'' is a time
  waster in finding the Programs I want to run.
  
  Other then the Menu system, the Ubuntu 11.10 appears to be
  a great operating System.  This 10.04 I have been running
  has been the best I have ever owned in 28 Years I have
  been using Computers.
  
  Thank You 
  
  Ray McCrum
      Email;  ogmhc1...@att.net 
  

  


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Re: Battery Warnings

[Ray Perigo]

@Jeremy - This is under Unity on 11.04, non-OEM install. I do have GNOME
Shell installed also, but I'm not sure how that could bork things.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Oussama Bounaim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm also affected by this i'm using ubuntu 10.04 and i have all the update
> installed, beside to that i have another problem my battery goes down
> faster than when i'm using windows.
>
> thanks
>
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Ray Perigo wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure I'd call this a bug, but can we do something about the
>> stacking of battery level warning dialogs? I find that if I leave my laptop
>> unattended for a while and the battery drains to the warning level, I've
>> got like half a dozen dialogs to click out of. The UI would be a bit
>> cleaner if it could be set up so that only one dialog at a time can be
>> opened by the battery monitor.
>>
>> Is this something that's even within the Ubuntu devs' sphere of control,
>> or is it somewhere upstream in Gnome?
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Re: Battery Warnings

[Ray Perigo]

I don't mean notification bubbles. I'm getting dialog windows (Your battery
has reached low level and will go into sleep very soon unless you plug it
in - OK/Cancel...or something like that).

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Kai Mast  wrote:

>
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> On 10.02.2012 17:32, Ray Perigo wrote:
> > I'm not sure I'd call this a bug, but can we do something about the
> stacking of battery level warning dialogs? I find that if I leave my
> laptop unattended for a while and the battery drains to the warning
> level, I've got like half a dozen dialogs to click out of. The UI would
> be a bit cleaner if it could be set up so that only one dialog at a time
> can be opened by the battery monitor.
> >
> > Is this something that's even within the Ubuntu devs' sphere of
> control, or is it somewhere upstream in Gnome?
> >
>
> I guess the problem is that ubuntu-notifications don't support interaction.
>
> In my opinion, it'd be better to just show normal notification bubbles
> without interaction. There is the battery indicator that shows low
> battery level anyways, the powercog could also turn red (like when
> updates are required) to show that the computer is about to shutdown...
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Battery Warnings

[Ray Perigo]

I'm not sure I'd call this a bug, but can we do something about the
stacking of battery level warning dialogs? I find that if I leave my laptop
unattended for a while and the battery drains to the warning level, I've
got like half a dozen dialogs to click out of. The UI would be a bit
cleaner if it could be set up so that only one dialog at a time can be
opened by the battery monitor.

Is this something that's even within the Ubuntu devs' sphere of control, or
is it somewhere upstream in Gnome?
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Re: Thinking about adding a Twitter stream to the Ubuntu install slideshow

[Ray Perigo]

I wouldn't be horribly opposed to seeing this. It'd be a nice way to
showcase the community aspect of the OS. That being said, the main thing to
consider here is exactly what content you would want to show in there. On
the one hand, filtering out negative commentary would shed the best
possible light on Ubuntu (important for the first-time installer), but it
feels slightly disingenuous to me. On the other hand, being fully open with
it allows for trolls to hijack the stream and fill Ubiquity with a bunch of
garbage nobody wants to deal with.

Perhaps splitting the difference and simply filtering out obscene and
inflammatory language could curb some of that and keep the shown discourse
a bit more civil?

Regarding localization, it might be cool to script it so that the shown
tweets are locale-centric, but not entirely limited to the user's language.
I'm not sure how technically feasible it is, but what about culling *most*
of the tweets from the user's own language and tossing in a smattering of
comments from all over the place - for example, if the user is on English,
they'd see a bunch of stuff in English with a bit of "Ich liebe Ubuntu!"
here and there. This might further drive home the breadth and scope of the
Ubuntu community, no?

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Dylan McCall  wrote:

> The Ubuntu install slideshow for Precise should be a pretty ordinary
> little copy update, I think, so it'll just kind of happen little by
> little in the next couple months, as it does. Might be nice to tinker
> with it in Q, but that's the future, and the future can go jump in a
> lake for all I care :b
>
> One thing I would like to do is fix the last of the very
> English-looking pictures: the Ask Ubuntu one. (Well, especially very
> English-looking), and that is why I'm subjecting this list to a large
> and rambly email.
>
> I wonder if there would be any opposition to a live Twitter stream in
> that screenshot's place, where available, showing tweets containing
> #ubuntu? This would be on the last page of the slideshow.
> (By "Twitter stream" I'm talking about this thing, or something like
> it, styled to look pretty:
> https://twitter.com/about/resources/widgets/widget_search).
>
> I know Twitter is a proprietary service, but with my initial poking at
> the idea, there's a very diverse crowd represented in that search. I
> think it would be a neat way to quietly showcase the Ubuntu community
> as a living, breathing thing that exists right now, and it would say
> “see? you're not alone!”. And, hopefully, (most likely), the tweets
> will all be positive and welcoming.
>
> There is the issue that this stream needs to live (and be consistent)
> for five years, and I think that can be handled by some defensive js
> code, which we'll already need for the event that there's no Internet
> connection. It's also going on the assumption that, in five year's
> time, Twitter's stream for #ubuntu will still be nice to read, but I
> think that's a likely enough assumption.
>
> We can make the search language-specific (search Twitter with lang:zh,
> for example), though I worry that could make it a little sparse in
> some cases. We _might_ want to filter against negative language, in
> which case the search query would need to be localized. I think that
> can be done, too.
>
> I'm just throwing the idea around. Any other thoughts?
>
> Dylan
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Re: Unity and Classic

[Ray Perigo]

This isn't a bad idea either. At least having the filters already onscreen
would make things a little more usable. I would wager a lot of people don't
readily correlate the phrase "Filter Results" with "Application
Categories", or just don't see the dropdown.

Further on this topic, instead of a rigid set of default apps, what about
moving the Frequently Used section from the Apps lens into the home lens?

With this in place, the Frequently Used section in the Apps lens would be
redundant. That could be removed, and with the filters already onscreen
things would be roughly as streamlined as a classic-style menu.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Sebastien Bacher  wrote:

> Le 01/12/2011 17:11, Matt Alexander a écrit :
>
>
>> I don't like it because I can't find the most common apps anymore.  I
>> used to be able to navigate through the Applications menu using general
>> categories like Graphics, Games, Sound & Video, etc.
>>
>
> Is the issue there only the number of click to display the application
> lens with the installed applications not reduced to the default 1 line and
> with the filters on the side? This cycle Unity should make it things a bit
> easier there by:
> - letting you add lenses icons directly to the launcher, if you access
> often the application one you could get it there
> - remember some of the dash settings cross sessions
>
> Would you be happy with the application lens if it opened directly from
> the launcher with filters already on screen and the list unfolded for you?
>
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Re: Unity and Classic

[Ray Perigo]

Carlos,

Well, there IS a "Filter Results" dropdown that brings up the application
categories. It works, but this method takes a few more mouse clicks than I
would like. I posited another idea in a different thread to just add the
classic menu functionality into the Dash button as a right-click event.
This way, the interface itself isn't changed (no additional buttons, Dash
and Lenses continue to work as they do), and those of us who want a more
old-school approach to finding apps get to have it.

//Ray Perigo
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Matt Alexander <
ubuntu@mattalexander.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Shane Fagan 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Ronan Lucio  wrote:
>> > Hi Carlos,
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about it.
>> > I know there are so many users prefering the old gnome style.
>> >
>> > I think the best option would be a simple way to config which interface
>> the
>> > users prefers, like on 11.04 version.
>> > So the user could choice between Unity, Gnome3 or Gnome-Fallback
>> (Classic)
>> >
>> > But it think this option must exists for all Ubuntu versions.
>>
>> There is an option just install gnome classic. Splitting our efforts
>> helps no one and pulls resources away from making Ubuntu keep up with
>> what Windows 8 is going to be doing. Id say if you don't like
>> something in Unity you should share your experience and preference and
>> see if there is something more we could be doing just saying I don't
>> like it doesn't really help anyone understand why you don't like it.
>>
>
>
> I don't like it because I can't find the most common apps anymore.  I used
> to be able to navigate through the Applications menu using general
> categories like Graphics, Games, Sound  & Video, etc.  Now I stare blankly
> at a dialog box that expects me to have memorized every app name that I
> might use and I have to TYPE THAT COMMAND LINE NAME IN.  WTF.  That's a
> terrible user experience.
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An idea/feature request for incorporating a "Classic" menu into Unity

[Ray Perigo]

There seems to be much griping going about regarding Unity, in particular
the lack of a "classic" menu - admittedly, I'm one of those gripers. I see
no reason why a simple applications (a-la GNOME 2.x) menu can't be added as
a right-click function on the Dash button. This sort of menu is a must-have
for a lot of users, and this sort of implementation would allow it to
coexist peacefully with the Dash/Lenses.

Cheers,
Ray Perigo
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Re: Really miss my panel applets.

[Ray Wang]

You probably want to try this, Vernon. :)
https://launchpad.net/*indicator-multiload*<https://launchpad.net/indicator-multiload>

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Vernon Cole  wrote:

> I am starting to get used to the Unity desktop. It's still hard to find
> some things that were formerly easy, but I'm getting there.
> At this point, the thing I miss the most are my panel applets, one for fun,
> three to monitor my computer.
> [image: Screenshot.png]
> (screen shot of "eyes" and "system monitor" applets)
>
> How can I get equivalent functionality back?
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Re: idea for 10.04

[Ray Leventhal]

Conrad Knauer wrote:
> (Only replying on ubuntu-devel-discuss + e-mail)
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Jonathan Aquilina
>  wrote:
> 
>> give the users at some point during the installation process options of what
>> office suite browser and mail client they would like installed. the list of
>> options will include the defaults of the respective desktops environments as
>> well as alternative options.
>>
>> if you could provide feed back as to if this is a good idea, and if so how
>> can i begin working on implementing it on lucid.
> 

> Constructive criticism: a much better idea would be for users to
> choose to run this *after* an install; much like the current "software
> center" (formerly "software store") in Karmic except narrowed down to
> just a few categories (e.g. "office suite browser and mail client" as
> you suggested and maybe a few others, as I mentioned) which would be
> of most interest to people (I would recommend limiting the categories,
> otherwise you're just duplicating what's already available in
> "Add/Remove...").  Be sure to make it very informative (text +
> screenshots would be nice) so that users who don't know much about the
> alternatives understand the differences.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Conrad Knauer
> 
While not a developer (but a power user, so I'm told), I can't help but 
agree with Conrad.  Ease of modification *after* simple, user-friendly 
installs.

Best,
-Ray

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