Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:01:01 -0500, John Arbash Meinel j...@arbash-meinel.com wrote: On 9/29/2010 11:23 PM, James Westby wrote: What merge package does is first merge the two upstream revisions together, taking the tree from whichever has the highest version number. ---B---F / / / / / .-D--. \ A-= H \`-E-` \ \ C--G Currently it will then just merge H in to G (the target). This can generate conflicts, which are very, very confusing to users, as it's incredibly hard to explain why they are getting them. Does merging D E generate conflicts itself? It would seem that if merging to G generates conflicts, then you should have gotten a conflict in the intermediate stage as well. (offhand the best you can usually hope for is more understandable conflicts, unless you have a real 'criss-cross' merge and we are selecting a very poor base.) It is not a real merge. We create a new revision with D E as parents, and the contents of the later of the two (defined in terms of upstream version numbers). So, no, there is no possibility of conflicts at this stage. A /|\ E D B |\|\|\ | H F C \ \| | \ I | \ | \ | \| G Now you have a genuine criss-cross. As the lcas are E and B (ancestors of both I and G that are not superseded by a more recent ancestor.) Just using 3-way merge (vs say --weave) I would expect this to conflict more than merging H = G, because of our specific base selection (when we find a criss-cross 3-way goes to the next base, which will be A, which then will try to merge (I-A) into (G-A). That's unfortunate. Is there a way we could use our increased knowledge about the revisions involved to merge with a strategy that would make this situation better? Would it be beneficial to have some concrete examples to try out? Thanks, James -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: Please check my thinking on bug 646979
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ... We create a new revision with D E as parents, and the contents of the later of the two (defined in terms of upstream version numbers). So, no, there is no possibility of conflicts at this stage. So you preserve the content of exactly D or E, you just generate a new node in the graph to supersede the other one, correct? Say D is the 'winner', then you end up with a patch that reverts everything in E. In the below graph, the content in H == D, so when generating I, we should see D as the common base, and I would then == F (because H - D == NULL, so there is nothing to apply to F to generate I) A /|\ E D B |\|\|\ | H F C \ \| | \ I | \ | \ | \| G Now you have a genuine criss-cross. As the lcas are E and B (ancestors of both I and G that are not superseded by a more recent ancestor.) Just using 3-way merge (vs say --weave) I would expect this to conflict more than merging H = G, because of our specific base selection (when we find a criss-cross 3-way goes to the next base, which will be A, which then will try to merge (I-A) into (G-A). That's unfortunate. Is there a way we could use our increased knowledge about the revisions involved to merge with a strategy that would make this situation better? - --weave is one option. :) (or per-file merge which we've talked about many times but haven't found the cycles to implement.) Going further with the above example, it really depends on what you want. From what you've stated about whichever one wins, then you sort of simplify what you want. You explicitly stated that you are rejecting any of the 2.1 changes that weren't in 3.0. I'm having a bit of a hard time figuring out what you are trying to preserve in G, versus just telling it and now you are F/I. Would it be beneficial to have some concrete examples to try out? Thanks, James Probably. Examples can certainly shed light on confusing points. John =:- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkyqb1AACgkQJdeBCYSNAAM68wCfUomMmai1DaWwOYFoiapNlhHk MVIAnibVDm5mwNC7/LJdw3FUo5qgOSjl =GNt3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Mobile IRC Meeting Reminder
Hi, Every Tuesday at 13:00 UTC. We'll be having the usual IRC meeting on #ubuntu-meeting, on Tueday 2010-10-04 at 13:00 UTC. The new meeting page for this weeks meeting is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101004 Please add any topics of conversation that need to be covered at: If you have agenda items, please add them to the page on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101004 before the meeting. It will also greatly help if you tag your agenda items with your name or IRC nick. The meeting history page with links to prior meetings is at: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting Thank you, Michael -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Mobile IRC Meeting Reminder
Apologies, the date should be 2010-10-05, and the URL is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101005 Michael On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Michael Casadevall mcasadev...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Every Tuesday at 13:00 UTC. We'll be having the usual IRC meeting on #ubuntu-meeting, on Tueday 2010-10-04 at 13:00 UTC. The new meeting page for this weeks meeting is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101004 Please add any topics of conversation that need to be covered at: If you have agenda items, please add them to the page on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2010/20101004 before the meeting. It will also greatly help if you tag your agenda items with your name or IRC nick. The meeting history page with links to prior meetings is at: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting Thank you, Michael -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Chairing the QA meeting
Hello all, I have put a small wiki page with instructions that you may find useful in case you are a usual chair of the QA meeting or you plan to be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing Cheers! Ara. -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
Re: Chairing the QA meeting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:28:08 +0200 Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hello all, I have put a small wiki page with instructions that you may find useful in case you are a usual chair of the QA meeting or you plan to be: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing Cheers! Ara. Thank you! That looks so much easier than finding all the items by searching the wiki and mailing lists. - -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJMqeY0AAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAiQ4H/3i79zCFEYNcEBmy925iyJBB dR9lgyiA+3LOtEb9ge5ydhx2nzEFkET9q0WXB4bdCq7+PzZ773b7uWGKOvirZybP 8SVmWFJ3Dyl9G+NlTNQRj2Iq6LYH8trVjx6grCxuEm2pwANBqHLG/X1mPLk++HQb Kqf+wFttWFF7YFCbyPfqSr/irRt+paGdt/k9RNskc5igG17OtGhyevLmY0YhyhPo 2dCex7oddLVfTorKmQPp+rspe8rO0PUNBm/u4xu5ETPEKDuAlWkBs0xzHYSWyKCc XB+NgvGHHwuF7Fz74+mNYdedYbtuazTVNSIvCY/6d+Wuaw8cwpFN0rhFbRey/ik= =mQ6Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
New member to Ubuntu testing
Hi , My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 6months and I am now very much intrested ubuntu testing team. Kindly give me the advises by giving me where can I start contributing ? -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
[ubuntu-in] Fwd: Ubuntu not booting up
@Shubham - Please join the ubuntu india list if you have'nt done yet. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Original Message Subject: Ubuntu not booting up Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:56:31 +0530 From: Shubham Chakraborty s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com To: adm...@ubuntu-in.info Hi I have been using ubuntu for about two years now. But recently after upgrading to Ubuntu 10.04 I have suffered from the biggest problem faced. It doesn't boot up. It shows the ubuntu logo and then after around three minutes it shows that UUID path not found. Then the laptop goes off. I have a lot of data in my ubuntu drive and can't afford to re-install as my laptop has only two partitions one windows and one ubuntu. Kindly help. Regards Shubham Chakraborty Editor (Higher Education) Vikas Publishing House Pvt Ltd, E-28, Sector-8, NOIDA Email (O): s.chakrabo...@vikaspublishing.com -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] sudo user on Fedora
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 23:05:00 +0530 Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote How We can create settings to that user will become sudo user. I know this procedure. http://lug-iitd.org/Shell_Scripts#SUDO How ubuntu manage to do it automatically. [...] What is wrong with the above procedure? Ubuntu probably does the same thing behind the scenes, or maybe it just adds the default user at install time to the admin group, as /etc/sudoers has: # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL Regards, Gora -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Pilote pour cartes ATI
bienvenue dans la gimmick des jeux sur ordi ! -_- 2010/10/3 Dany Veilleux immorte...@hotmail.com Bonjour Gregory, Merci beaucoup pour ce partage d'information. Ca confirme mes craintes. J'ai perdu confiance en ATI, il y a plusieurs années lorsqu'ils avaient sorti un carte TV/Tuner et qui était voulu à de bonnes performances graphiques et avec les pilotes, c'était un ou l'autre, ils n'ont jamais réussi à faire des bons pilotes qui avaient les deux. Et je parle de sur Windows. Bref, ca répond à ma question merci beaucoup. J'ai essayé StarCraft 2 sur Windows sur ma machine et j'ai des performances pas mal supérieure à Wine sous Linux mais machine n'est quand même pas assez puissante. 700$ pour pouvoir jouer à un jeux, c'est quand même décourageant. :) Dany On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:47 -0400, Gregory Eric Sanderson wrote: J'ai 2 postes que j'utilise à tous les jours : - Ubuntu Nvidia, 2 moniteurs (mode twinview) : poste de bureau pour mon travail - Arch Linux ATI : laptop personnel Dans les 2 cas j'utilise les drivers propriétaires. Sur mon ubuntu je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes avec la carte graphique ou avec mes moniteurs. Les mises à jour se sont toujours fait sans souci, les options de configuration dans xorg.conf sont sainement configurable et semble bien s'intégrer avec le reste de ma config bizaroide (j'ai tendance à passer bcp de temps à tweaker toute ce qui se trouve dans /etc, et xorg.conf ne fait pas exception) et puis comme Samuel a mentionné, Nvidia tiens leurs drivers pas mal plus à jour qu'ATI (je vais donner un exemple un peu plus bas). En gros, je suis très satisfait avec Nvidia J'ai aussi eu une carte Nvidia pendant un petit moment sur une tour personelle (avant que le AC explose) avec Arch Linux ou je faisait un peu de gaming sous wine. Même si je n'ai pas gardé ce setup pendant longtemps, Les graphiques ont toujours été fluides, et les mises à jour sans problèmes En contre partie, sur mon laptop la situation est un cauchemar. Arch Linux est une distribution basé sur le modèle du rolling release. En bref dès qu'une nouvelle version d'un logiciel est disponible elle est ajouté aux dépôts, ce qui veut dire que des mises à jour de Xorg arrivent souvent. Par contre, Catalyst (le nom du driver propriétaire d'ATI) ne se tient pas tout aussi à jour. On ne sait jamais quand est-ce qu'une nouvelle version du driver va sortir, et quand elle sort, on est certain à 90 % du temps qu'elle ne marche pas avec la dernière version de Xorg. Juste hier, je n'ai pas pu faire une mise à jour complète de mon système parce-que catalyst 10.9 ne marche pas avec xorg-xserver 1.9. C'est la 6e fois que ça m'arrive de ne pas pouvoir mettre à jour Xorg à cause de catalyst. La configuration n'est pas beaucoup mieux. Bien que X n'a plus besoin de xorg.conf pour fonctionner, j'aime bien configurer les choses à ma façon. Mais avec ma carte ATI, je ne suis même pas capable de me générer un xorg.conf bare bones. La commande X -configure plante à chaque fois (tandis qu'avec Nivida ça fonctionne nickel). je suis obligé d'utiliser l'outil propriétaire aticonfig pour générer un xorg.conf de départ, et la manière que c'est généré est plus dégeulasse qu'un site d'enfouissement des vidanges, Je n'ai même pas encore ajouté mes propres options personnalisés, et j'ai déja un fichier de config bâtard ! De plus, l'outil graphique équivalent (amdcccle) plante les 3/4 du temps (tandis que je n'ai jamais vu celui de nvidia planter encore une fois) J'ai du passer une fin de semaine au complet à tester différents setups commun pour produire 4 fichiers xorg.conf différents que j'utilise quand je branche un moniteur externe (dépendant du type de moniteur), et même à ça je dois prier que ça fonctionne du premier coup quand je branche le moniteur. Ah, et j'ai pas parlé des bugs graphiques. La version 10.7 de catalyst génère des gros blocs gris dans les applications GTK comme firefox de manière alléatoire, bloquant parfois la page au complet. Plusieurs personnes ont reporté le bug, et la seule réponse d'ATI est que le problème est connu. nous vous conseillons de désactiver option xyz dans votre configuration en attendant de trouver une solution plus permanente. Sauf que quand cette option est désactivé, le taux de rafraîchissement est 3 fois plus lent. Un simple fichier avi n'est plus jouable. Ce bug n'est toujours pas corrigé dans la version 10.9, et en tant que programmeur, je trouve ça innaceptable de laisser un bug aussi majeur traîner aussi longtemps, avec comme seul solution de venir handicapper la carte graphique. Certes, si j'utilisais ubuntu à place sur mon laptop ( la où la version de Xorg et de catalyst ne change pas à tout bout de champ ) la situation serait peut-être différente. Il se peut juste que la version de la carte graphique que j'ai sois
[Ubuntu-QC] Rappel: Linux-Meetup de la ville de Quebec (5 oct. 2010)
Bonjour, *Vous voulez partager des trucs et astuces avec certains logiciels libres sous Linux c'est le temps de venir au Linux-Meetup pour partager votre savoir ou pour apprendre des autres :-) * Le Linux-Meetup (ou Linux-Causerie) d'octobre sera très éducatif, puisqu'il y a aura un échange de trucs et astuces des logiciels libres sous Linux. Voici comment se déroulera la soirée: - On fera un premier tour de table rapide des participants et chacun indiquera un logiciel (ou en Linux) qu'il aimerait avoir certaines astuces. - et lors du 2e tour de table, les experts des domaines souhaités répondront aux questions, on démontrant certains trucs et astuces live, en direct avec le projecteur ! Nous invitons tous les amateurs de logiciels libres (peu importe la plate-forme) à venir discuter. C'est vraiment une excellente occasion de socialiser et de faire connaissance avec les autres qui partagent les mêmes intérêts. Le Linux-Meetup se fera dans l'ambiance décontracté du Café-bistro Tousazimut (291 rue Saint-Vallier Est, Québec) de 17:30 à 21:30 (vous pouvez même souper sur place avec nous). La rencontre est gratuite et ouverte à tous (de débutants à experts) et rassemble des gens de diverses professions: gestionnaires, professeurs, administrateurs de systèmes, ingénieurs, programmeurs, retraités, étudiants, etc... Les Linux-Meetup se déroulent simultanément à travers le monde à tous les premiers mardis du mois dont dans plusieurs régions du Québec (voir http://www.GULQuebec.org/ http://www.gulquebec.org/ ). Vous pouvez confirmer votre présence de deux façons: * sur Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=108003505931278 * ou envoyez-moi un courriel Bienvenue à tous ! Martial Bigras ing. Savoir-Faire Linux Vice-président Directeur du bureau de Québec 275, rue du Parvis, bureau 310 Québec, (Québec), G1K 6G7 418-525-7354 x151 (cell.: 418-264-1298) 877-SFLinuxx151 (cell.: x251) Certifié ISO 9001:2008 -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
the lady got a bit defensive when i asked her if she was a man in africa trying to steal my monies!!! I guess HRH prince mabubu was busy! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: Just to add it looks like the website was only registered early in September and has US contacts - nothing connecting it to the UK at all. As you said - too good to be true. On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:28 +0100, javadayaz wrote: i thought their prices were too good to be true!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: As soon as I read no credit cards but only Western Union then the alarm bells started ringing for me. I wouldn't just walk away but would be running as fast as I could. Also I didn't see anywhere on the website where a postal address is shown. AFAIK it is a legal requirement in the UK for all internet companies to provide this. Vince On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:05 +0100, javadayaz wrote: Hi, Many of you may know of my efforts to get a revo installed with ubuntu as a media centre for my living roomwhat do you make of this offer here? -- Forwarded message -- From: *ProvideSupport* transcr...@providesupport.com Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM Subject: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick. To: javada...@gmail.com javada...@gmail.com Chat Transcript Visitor: javad Operator: Jessica Waynick Company: digital-switch.com Started: 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17 Finished: 4 Oct 2010 7:47:40 javad: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? * Welcome javad! Your request has been directed to the Technical Support department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call. * Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick, javad. Jessica Waynick: I am can only answer questions about return policy, payment methods and shipping. For this kind of questions, please use the contact form from the website and the guys from the sales department will answer. javad: sorry i thought this was the technical support department!!! javad: do you accept paypal or google checkout as payment methods? Jessica Waynick: From Oct/01/2010 to Oct/07/2010 we don't accept credit cards. This is an offer sponsored by Western Union, the prices are lower by 60% because of this, so the only payment method available is Western union wire transfer. After this time period, you can purchase by credit card, but also the prices are going to be much higher. javad: so i cant pay via my debit card? Jessica Waynick: no, you can't this week javad: but i can after the 7th of oct.? Jessica Waynick: Yes javad: after which prices will go up too? Jessica Waynick: yes, by 60% javad: so to take advantage of the 60% off offer i need to make western union transfer? where do i make the transfer to? Jessica Waynick: Please locate here http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp a Western Union agent near you. You will must have the money in cash and a valid ID with you. After the wire transfer is completed, please scan the copy of the Western Union receipt and send it by email at ord...@digital-switch.com . You will also have to include in the email the following details: MTCN ( Money Transfer Control Number ) - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name ( agent name ) - Amount Western Union has offered two sponsored payment options, one for its own advertising and brand awareness and the other for the Yele Haiti Organization. 1.You will send the payment by Western Union without disclosing the purpose of the transfer to the Western Union agent from where you are going to send the payment. It this case, you will only have to pay the reduced price of your order and you will receive with your items the book Western Union At Your Service Since 1851. 2. If you will send the payment by Western Union and disclose the purpose of the transfer to the agent, you will have to pay the reduced price for your order plus a £250 fee as donation for the Yele Haiti, a non-political movement that has built global awareness for Haiti while helping to sustain the country through short-term emergency relief efforts and long-term programs. Jessica Waynick: You will have to order the items first Jessica Waynick: You will receive detailed payment instructions by email and also on your account. javad: this sounds like a really good offer javad: where in the uk are goods dispatched from? javad: can i pick them up personally javad: ? Jessica Waynick: We only ship the items, we are an internet based store, like many others. Local pick up it not an option. javad: do you support any other charities ? Jessica Waynick: Not at the moment. javad: are you a man in africa trying to steal my money? Visitor Details --- Please select the department you would like to reach:
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
i thought their prices were too good to be true!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: As soon as I read no credit cards but only Western Union then the alarm bells started ringing for me. I wouldn't just walk away but would be running as fast as I could. Also I didn't see anywhere on the website where a postal address is shown. AFAIK it is a legal requirement in the UK for all internet companies to provide this. Vince On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:05 +0100, javadayaz wrote: Hi, Many of you may know of my efforts to get a revo installed with ubuntu as a media centre for my living roomwhat do you make of this offer here? -- Forwarded message -- From: *ProvideSupport* transcr...@providesupport.com Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM Subject: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick. To: javada...@gmail.com javada...@gmail.com Chat Transcript Visitor: javad Operator: Jessica Waynick Company: digital-switch.com Started: 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17 Finished: 4 Oct 2010 7:47:40 javad: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? * Welcome javad! Your request has been directed to the Technical Support department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call. * Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick, javad. Jessica Waynick: I am can only answer questions about return policy, payment methods and shipping. For this kind of questions, please use the contact form from the website and the guys from the sales department will answer. javad: sorry i thought this was the technical support department!!! javad: do you accept paypal or google checkout as payment methods? Jessica Waynick: From Oct/01/2010 to Oct/07/2010 we don't accept credit cards. This is an offer sponsored by Western Union, the prices are lower by 60% because of this, so the only payment method available is Western union wire transfer. After this time period, you can purchase by credit card, but also the prices are going to be much higher. javad: so i cant pay via my debit card? Jessica Waynick: no, you can't this week javad: but i can after the 7th of oct.? Jessica Waynick: Yes javad: after which prices will go up too? Jessica Waynick: yes, by 60% javad: so to take advantage of the 60% off offer i need to make western union transfer? where do i make the transfer to? Jessica Waynick: Please locate here http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp a Western Union agent near you. You will must have the money in cash and a valid ID with you. After the wire transfer is completed, please scan the copy of the Western Union receipt and send it by email at ord...@digital-switch.com . You will also have to include in the email the following details: MTCN ( Money Transfer Control Number ) - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name ( agent name ) - Amount Western Union has offered two sponsored payment options, one for its own advertising and brand awareness and the other for the Yele Haiti Organization. 1.You will send the payment by Western Union without disclosing the purpose of the transfer to the Western Union agent from where you are going to send the payment. It this case, you will only have to pay the reduced price of your order and you will receive with your items the book Western Union At Your Service Since 1851. 2. If you will send the payment by Western Union and disclose the purpose of the transfer to the agent, you will have to pay the reduced price for your order plus a £250 fee as donation for the Yele Haiti, a non-political movement that has built global awareness for Haiti while helping to sustain the country through short-term emergency relief efforts and long-term programs. Jessica Waynick: You will have to order the items first Jessica Waynick: You will receive detailed payment instructions by email and also on your account. javad: this sounds like a really good offer javad: where in the uk are goods dispatched from? javad: can i pick them up personally javad: ? Jessica Waynick: We only ship the items, we are an internet based store, like many others. Local pick up it not an option. javad: do you support any other charities ? Jessica Waynick: Not at the moment. javad: are you a man in africa trying to steal my money? Visitor Details --- Please select the department you would like to reach: Technical Support Your Name: javad Your Question: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? IP Address: 62.172.160.254 Host Name: 62.172.160.254 Referrer: http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=acerrevohl=enshow=ddlnk=pruserprice1=100price2=150 Browser/OS: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.3 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/6.0.472.63 Safari/534.3 Location: Milton Keynes, England, United Kingdom
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
If you look at the registered address it is 57th Park Avenue New York, NY 10022... that's a road intersection lol http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Digital.Switch.800-305-9203 If it looks too good to true, it usually is. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:28 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i thought their prices were too good to be true!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: As soon as I read no credit cards but only Western Union then the alarm bells started ringing for me. I wouldn't just walk away but would be running as fast as I could. Also I didn't see anywhere on the website where a postal address is shown. AFAIK it is a legal requirement in the UK for all internet companies to provide this. Vince On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:05 +0100, javadayaz wrote: Hi, Many of you may know of my efforts to get a revo installed with ubuntu as a media centre for my living roomwhat do you make of this offer here? -- Forwarded message -- From: ProvideSupport transcr...@providesupport.com Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM Subject: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick. To: javada...@gmail.com javada...@gmail.com Chat Transcript Visitor: javad Operator: Jessica Waynick Company: digital-switch.com Started: 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17 Finished: 4 Oct 2010 7:47:40 javad: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? * Welcome javad! Your request has been directed to the Technical Support department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call. * Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick, javad. Jessica Waynick: I am can only answer questions about return policy, payment methods and shipping. For this kind of questions, please use the contact form from the website and the guys from the sales department will answer. javad: sorry i thought this was the technical support department!!! javad: do you accept paypal or google checkout as payment methods? Jessica Waynick: From Oct/01/2010 to Oct/07/2010 we don't accept credit cards. This is an offer sponsored by Western Union, the prices are lower by 60% because of this, so the only payment method available is Western union wire transfer. After this time period, you can purchase by credit card, but also the prices are going to be much higher. javad: so i cant pay via my debit card? Jessica Waynick: no, you can't this week javad: but i can after the 7th of oct.? Jessica Waynick: Yes javad: after which prices will go up too? Jessica Waynick: yes, by 60% javad: so to take advantage of the 60% off offer i need to make western union transfer? where do i make the transfer to? Jessica Waynick: Please locate here http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp a Western Union agent near you. You will must have the money in cash and a valid ID with you. After the wire transfer is completed, please scan the copy of the Western Union receipt and send it by email at ord...@digital-switch.com . You will also have to include in the email the following details: MTCN ( Money Transfer Control Number ) - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name ( agent name ) - Amount Western Union has offered two sponsored payment options, one for its own advertising and brand awareness and the other for the Yele Haiti Organization. 1.You will send the payment by Western Union without disclosing the purpose of the transfer to the Western Union agent from where you are going to send the payment. It this case, you will only have to pay the reduced price of your order and you will receive with your items the book Western Union At Your Service Since 1851. 2. If you will send the payment by Western Union and disclose the purpose of the transfer to the agent, you will have to pay the reduced price for your order plus a £250 fee as donation for the Yele Haiti, a non-political movement that has built global awareness for Haiti while helping to sustain the country through short-term emergency relief efforts and long-term programs. Jessica Waynick: You will have to order the items first Jessica Waynick: You will receive detailed payment instructions by email and also on your account. javad: this sounds like a really good offer javad: where in the uk are goods dispatched from? javad: can i pick them up personally javad: ? Jessica Waynick: We only ship the items, we are an internet based store, like many others. Local pick up it not an option. javad: do you support any other charities ? Jessica Waynick: Not at the moment. javad: are you a man in africa trying to steal my money? Visitor Details --- Please select the department you would like to reach: Technical Support Your Name: javad Your Question: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? IP Address: 62.172.160.254 Host Name:
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
must be a drivers problem On 4 October 2010 11:04, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote: On 04/10/10 10:23, javadayaz wrote: Well it was working fine before...and i havent disabled anything! i will have to check if its somehow manage to disable itself!!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.ukwrote: On 4 October 2010 09:13, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? Some time ago, when I first tried a USB keyboard, there was a setting in the BIOS that I had to enable to allow it to work. Not sure what the setting was, but until I had fixed it, the behaviour was as you describe. I guess with newer hardware, the default will be to expect a USB keyboard. Have you looked through all the BIOS options? -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad I have a similar problem, all the numbers on the right hand side wont work. Bought two new keyboards, and they wont work either. Nobody seems to be able to work that one out either, and I cant. Real pain too. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
lol! Fonejacker springs to mind with a guy sitting in a box asking for monies Sir...I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole! For the sake of a few extra quid, you'd be better off sticking with a known brand/seller. Western Union do not give back money for buyer/seller mistakes like Paypal do - once the money's transferred that's it, no bank to back you up (Fraud Prevention Team) 60% off is usually the closing down clearance type sale, but I don't know any retailer that would hike the prices back up after a week if they're selling their stock off... the mind boggles on this one... If you want a cheap monitor, you can get a 21.6 TV from Tesco now for £99, or maybe it was £119, and it can double as a monitor with the VGA ports :) Failing that you could try Maplin, SVP or eBay for some bargains...or even Freecycle/Freegle if you're not fussed about picking up second-hand stuff from strangers houses for free ;) Just a few suggestions :) On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:05 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Many of you may know of my efforts to get a revo installed with ubuntu as a media centre for my living roomwhat do you make of this offer here? -- Forwarded message -- From: ProvideSupport transcr...@providesupport.com Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM Subject: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick. To: javada...@gmail.com javada...@gmail.com Chat Transcript Visitor: javad Operator: Jessica Waynick Company: digital-switch.com Started: 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17 Finished: 4 Oct 2010 7:47:40 javad: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? * Welcome javad! Your request has been directed to the Technical Support department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call. * Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick, javad. Jessica Waynick: I am can only answer questions about return policy, payment methods and shipping. For this kind of questions, please use the contact form from the website and the guys from the sales department will answer. javad: sorry i thought this was the technical support department!!! javad: do you accept paypal or google checkout as payment methods? Jessica Waynick: From Oct/01/2010 to Oct/07/2010 we don't accept credit cards. This is an offer sponsored by Western Union, the prices are lower by 60% because of this, so the only payment method available is Western union wire transfer. After this time period, you can purchase by credit card, but also the prices are going to be much higher. javad: so i cant pay via my debit card? Jessica Waynick: no, you can't this week javad: but i can after the 7th of oct.? Jessica Waynick: Yes javad: after which prices will go up too? Jessica Waynick: yes, by 60% javad: so to take advantage of the 60% off offer i need to make western union transfer? where do i make the transfer to? Jessica Waynick: Please locate here http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp a Western Union agent near you. You will must have the money in cash and a valid ID with you. After the wire transfer is completed, please scan the copy of the Western Union receipt and send it by email at ord...@digital-switch.com . You will also have to include in the email the following details: MTCN ( Money Transfer Control Number ) - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name ( agent name ) - Amount Western Union has offered two sponsored payment options, one for its own advertising and brand awareness and the other for the Yele Haiti Organization. 1.You will send the payment by Western Union without disclosing the purpose of the transfer to the Western Union agent from where you are going to send the payment. It this case, you will only have to pay the reduced price of your order and you will receive with your items the book Western Union At Your Service Since 1851. 2. If you will send the payment by Western Union and disclose the purpose of the transfer to the agent, you will have to pay the reduced price for your order plus a £250 fee as donation for the Yele Haiti, a non-political movement that has built global awareness for Haiti while helping to sustain the country through short-term emergency relief efforts and long-term programs. Jessica Waynick: You will have to order the items first Jessica Waynick: You will receive detailed payment instructions by email and also on your account. javad: this sounds like a really good offer javad: where in the uk are goods dispatched from? javad: can i pick them up personally javad: ? Jessica Waynick: We only ship the items, we are an internet based store, like many others. Local pick up it not an option. javad: do you support any other charities ? Jessica Waynick: Not at the moment. javad: are you a man in africa trying to steal my money? Visitor Details --- Please select the department you
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
On 4 October 2010 13:35, Roy Jamison xtee...@googlemail.com wrote: If you look at the registered address it is 57th Park Avenue New York, NY 10022... that's a road intersection lol http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Digital.Switch.800-305-9203 That's fairly normal for US addresses in an office overlooking the intersection (so it'll be on one of the 4 corners of the intersection, rather than in the middle of the road!). Sometimes you will see a compass direction to show which of the 4 buildings the office is in. If it looks too good to true, it usually is. In spite of my comments above, I'd agree and give this a miss. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 04/10/10 10:23, javadayaz wrote: Well it was working fine before...and i havent disabled anything! i will have to check if its somehow manage to disable itself!!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: On 4 October 2010 09:13, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com wrote: still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? Some time ago, when I first tried a USB keyboard, there was a setting in the BIOS that I had to enable to allow it to work. Not sure what the setting was, but until I had fixed it, the behaviour was as you describe. I guess with newer hardware, the default will be to expect a USB keyboard. Have you looked through all the BIOS options? -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad I have a similar problem, all the numbers on the right hand side wont work. Bought two new keyboards, and they wont work either. Nobody seems to be able to work that one out either, and I cant. Real pain too. John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Well it was working fine before...and i havent disabled anything! i will have to check if its somehow manage to disable itself!!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: On 4 October 2010 09:13, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? Some time ago, when I first tried a USB keyboard, there was a setting in the BIOS that I had to enable to allow it to work. Not sure what the setting was, but until I had fixed it, the behaviour was as you describe. I guess with newer hardware, the default will be to expect a USB keyboard. Have you looked through all the BIOS options? -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
? On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:31 +0100, javadayaz wrote: I don't think it is..looks clean enough. How can I check? Just blow on it? I( had a machine with the same problem that worked fine after I'd taken the heatsink off, cleaned it and the CPU and applied new heatsink compound before puting it back together. Regards, Barry Drake. -- Sent from my Dell Netbook using Ubuntu - the window-free environment that gives me real fresh air. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20101003/89b94ede/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 09:13:59 +0100 From: javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com, bdr...@crosswire.org Message-ID: aanlktimvw1c_=u4qepshq=te0z4fr=tsq9p13elp-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:09 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok will try this then... Can anyone explain the non functioning keyboard in ubuntu ? On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:31 +0100, javadayaz wrote: I don't think it is..looks clean enough. How can I check? Just blow on it? I( had a machine with the same problem that worked fine after I'd taken the heatsink off, cleaned it and the CPU and applied new heatsink compound before puting it back together. Regards, Barry Drake. -- Sent from my Dell Netbook using Ubuntu - the window-free environment that gives me real fresh air. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20101004/5375f9e4/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:20:30 +0100 From: Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: aanlktiklpn333gn8benfwogtv64kv_q5bfxwys+0q...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 4 October 2010 09:13, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? Some time ago, when I first tried a USB keyboard, there was a setting in the BIOS that I had to enable to allow it to work. Not sure what the setting was, but until I had fixed it, the behaviour was as you describe. I guess with newer hardware, the default will be to expect a USB keyboard. Have you looked through all the BIOS options? -- Philip Stubbs -- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:23:51 +0100 From: javadayaz javada...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: aanlktimt+m0htb8uwycmy_cdumhfz3jgx+gu72whg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Well it was working fine before...and i havent disabled anything! i will have to check if its somehow manage to disable itself!!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk wrote: On 4 October 2010 09:13, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: still awaiting an answer Why would my keyboard work in the bios settings but not when i boot up in normal or when i running a livecd? would this still be related to the overheating cpu? Some time ago, when I first tried a USB keyboard, there was a setting in the BIOS that I had to enable to allow it to work. Not sure what the setting was, but until I had fixed it, the behaviour was as you describe. I guess with newer hardware, the default will be to expect a USB keyboard. Have you looked through all the BIOS options? -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20101004/63c8893c/attachment-0001.htm -- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:04:46 +0100 From: John Matthews jake...@sky.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 4ca9a6be.6020...@sky.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On 04/10/10 10:23, javadayaz wrote: Well it was working fine
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
so more woman in russia stealing your monies On 4 October 2010 13:35, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: the lady got a bit defensive when i asked her if she was a man in africa trying to steal my monies!!! I guess HRH prince mabubu was busy! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.ukwrote: Just to add it looks like the website was only registered early in September and has US contacts - nothing connecting it to the UK at all. As you said - too good to be true. On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:28 +0100, javadayaz wrote: i thought their prices were too good to be true!! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Vince Marsters vi...@marsters.co.uk wrote: As soon as I read no credit cards but only Western Union then the alarm bells started ringing for me. I wouldn't just walk away but would be running as fast as I could. Also I didn't see anywhere on the website where a postal address is shown. AFAIK it is a legal requirement in the UK for all internet companies to provide this. Vince On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 13:05 +0100, javadayaz wrote: Hi, Many of you may know of my efforts to get a revo installed with ubuntu as a media centre for my living roomwhat do you make of this offer here? -- Forwarded message -- From: *ProvideSupport* transcr...@providesupport.com Date: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:47 PM Subject: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick. To: javada...@gmail.com javada...@gmail.com Chat Transcript Visitor: javad Operator: Jessica Waynick Company: digital-switch.com Started: 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17 Finished: 4 Oct 2010 7:47:40 javad: on this item CODE: 0099802702922...what is the size of the monitor? * Welcome javad! Your request has been directed to the Technical Support department. Please wait for our operator to answer your call. * Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick, javad. Jessica Waynick: I am can only answer questions about return policy, payment methods and shipping. For this kind of questions, please use the contact form from the website and the guys from the sales department will answer. javad: sorry i thought this was the technical support department!!! javad: do you accept paypal or google checkout as payment methods? Jessica Waynick: From Oct/01/2010 to Oct/07/2010 we don't accept credit cards. This is an offer sponsored by Western Union, the prices are lower by 60% because of this, so the only payment method available is Western union wire transfer. After this time period, you can purchase by credit card, but also the prices are going to be much higher. javad: so i cant pay via my debit card? Jessica Waynick: no, you can't this week javad: but i can after the 7th of oct.? Jessica Waynick: Yes javad: after which prices will go up too? Jessica Waynick: yes, by 60% javad: so to take advantage of the 60% off offer i need to make western union transfer? where do i make the transfer to? Jessica Waynick: Please locate here http://www.westernunion.com/info/agentInquiryIntl.asp a Western Union agent near you. You will must have the money in cash and a valid ID with you. After the wire transfer is completed, please scan the copy of the Western Union receipt and send it by email at ord...@digital-switch.com . You will also have to include in the email the following details: MTCN ( Money Transfer Control Number ) - 10 digits number from the payment receipt - Sender Name and Address - Receiver Name ( agent name ) - Amount Western Union has offered two sponsored payment options, one for its own advertising and brand awareness and the other for the Yele Haiti Organization. 1.You will send the payment by Western Union without disclosing the purpose of the transfer to the Western Union agent from where you are going to send the payment. It this case, you will only have to pay the reduced price of your order and you will receive with your items the book Western Union At Your Service Since 1851. 2. If you will send the payment by Western Union and disclose the purpose of the transfer to the agent, you will have to pay the reduced price for your order plus a £250 fee as donation for the Yele Haiti, a non-political movement that has built global awareness for Haiti while helping to sustain the country through short-term emergency relief efforts and long-term programs. Jessica Waynick: You will have to order the items first Jessica Waynick: You will receive detailed payment instructions by email and also on your account. javad: this sounds like a really good offer javad: where in the uk are goods dispatched from? javad: can i pick them up personally javad: ? Jessica Waynick: We only ship the items, we are an internet based store, like many others. Local pick up it not an option. javad: do you support any other charities ? Jessica Waynick: Not at the moment. javad: are you a man in africa trying to
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
Hilarious! The chat has now been taken offline. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 13:35, Roy Jamison xtee...@googlemail.com wrote: If you look at the registered address it is 57th Park Avenue New York, NY 10022... that's a road intersection lol http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Digital.Switch.800-305-9203 That's fairly normal for US addresses in an office overlooking the intersection (so it'll be on one of the 4 corners of the intersection, rather than in the middle of the road!). Sometimes you will see a compass direction to show which of the 4 buildings the office is in. If it looks too good to true, it usually is. In spite of my comments above, I'd agree and give this a miss. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
and lastly: javad: awesomebtw take a guess which websites im posting your messages to? they will see what a professional website you are! Jessica Waynick: don't know, enlighten me. javad: Wonga javad: oh righ! Jessica Waynick: lol, we own kiva Jessica Waynick: wonga is kind o ours too On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:49 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: and more!! javad: really? how much can the travelling pigeons carry? im concerned about animal welfare! There are no operators available at the moment. If you would like to leave a message, please type it in the input field below and click Send button javad is now off-line and may not reply. Currently in room: room is empty . Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: Jessica Waynick. javad is now on-line. Currently in room: javad, Jessica Waynick. Jessica Waynick: They can carry a lot. javad: thats good. Will the pc come suitable wrapped. Its a present and i dont want the person to know the pigeon is carry that resembles a revo! javad: is this doable? Jessica Waynick: It is. Nevertheless the flying pigeons are always horny, so hide your wife or daughter as soon as they arrive. javad: Will do! But as deterrent can you dispatch with neutered pigeons? Jessica Waynick: Yes, of course but the neutered pigeons will like you, so... javad: hey im open minded! javad: know any michael jackson jokes? Jessica Waynick: They like uro and other shit, you like? javad: erm sure javad: but back to the revodoes it come in black? On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:37 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: javad: can i get a acer revo for free? Call accepted by operator Jessica Waynick. Currently in room: javad,Jessica Waynick. Jessica Waynick: Yes of course. Jessica Waynick: We can ship it by traveling pigeons. Jessica Waynick: Where are you located? Jessica Waynick has left the conversation. Currently in room: javad. proves that even scammers have a sense of humour! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:32 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Hilarious! The chat has now been taken offline. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 13:35, Roy Jamison xtee...@googlemail.com wrote: If you look at the registered address it is 57th Park Avenue New York, NY 10022... that's a road intersection lol http://www.merchantcircle.com/business/Digital.Switch.800-305-9203 That's fairly normal for US addresses in an office overlooking the intersection (so it'll be on one of the 4 corners of the intersection, rather than in the middle of the road!). Sometimes you will see a compass direction to show which of the 4 buildings the office is in. If it looks too good to true, it usually is. In spite of my comments above, I'd agree and give this a miss. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Sound effects ....
Just spent a long time searching through fora with no result. I want to play mp3's of stage sound effects and music tracks. The problem is that they have to be on cue. Like: imagine a gunshot with a two second delay (that happened last year when the sound man used audio CD's)! At least it was a laugh. I had a Windows app that did the job reasonably well, but I don't want to have to revert to Windows, and the app I mentioned doesn't like Wine AFAIK. Regards,Barry Drake -- Sent from my Dell Netbook using Ubuntu - the window-free environment that gives me real fresh air. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
btw can i start using the pc as soon as i apply the thermal..do i need to wait for it to dry ...? sorry ignorant fool/ noob here! On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 13:55, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: would the thermal gel really be exhausted after a few years...wasnt long ago when i applied it, it seems. I hope this will solve the problem. It's unlikely to be 'exhausted'. The main problem is likely to be dust, etc. in the heatsink or the fan. Taking the heatsink off the chip (perhaps in order to clean it) can leave air bubbles in the thermal compound - air in this situation acts as a brilliant heat insulator, which is less than ideal... Removing and re-applying the thermal compound ensures that the conductivity between chip and heatsink is a good way to help exclude the air bubbles and any other contaminants that could interfere in the cooling. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] warning: Non ubuntu thread! Fwd: Transcript of 4 Oct 2010 7:25:17. Visitor: javad. Operator: Jessica Waynick.
On 4 October 2010 15:53, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: and lastly: Thankfully. That's a triple-whammy of annoyance you got there with offtopic rubbish, top posted and non-trimmed. Please think about mail before you send it to this list. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 4 Oct 2010, at 15:58, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: btw can i start using the pc as soon as i apply the thermal..do i need to wait for it to dry ...? sorry ignorant fool/ noob here! Thermal paste shouldn't dry. It stays a paste. It really is just a lick-um stick-um job. No need to watch paint dry :) Shaun -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 16:23 +0100, Shaun ONeil wrote: Thermal paste shouldn't dry. It stays a paste. It really is just a lick-um stick-um job. No need to watch paint dry :) Don't, of course, lick thermal paste. It contains some unpleasant heavy metals that you should not ingest. :) Tyler -- Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way ... out of that a new holiday was born ... a Festivus for the rest of us! -- Jerry Stiller, as Frank Costanza in Seinfeld -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 04/10/10 13:55, javadayaz wrote: would the thermal gel really be exhausted after a few years...wasnt long ago when i applied it, it seems. One of mine's making a noise like an idling black cab - I've reseated the heat sink and messed around with it - only way to get it to stop for a while is to slap the box strategically. Driving me nuts, it's less than a year old but spose I have to get a new one :( You can sometimes fiddle with smart fan settings in the BIOS if the CPU's running too hot. Didn't work for me cos it's obviously plain knackered but might work for you :) Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
So the changing the usb settings did the trick. The keyboard is now operational. The cpu thermal seems to have been a waste though..and in vain...its still showing at the 53c...although I suppose its better than before. On 04/10/10 13:55, javadayaz wrote: would the thermal gel really be exhausted after a few years...wasnt long ago when i applied it, it seems. One of mine's making a noise like an idling black cab - I've reseated the heat sink and messed around with it - only way to get it to stop for a while is to slap the box strategically. Driving me nuts, it's less than a year old but spose I have to get a new one :( You can sometimes fiddle with smart fan settings in the BIOS if the CPU's running too hot. Didn't work for me cos it's obviously plain knackered but might work for you :) Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 04/10/10 16:23, Shaun ONeil wrote: On 4 Oct 2010, at 15:58, javadayazjavada...@gmail.com wrote: btw can i start using the pc as soon as i apply the thermal..do i need to wait for it to dry ...? sorry ignorant fool/ noob here! Thermal paste shouldn't dry. It stays a paste. It really is just a lick-um stick-um job. No need to watch paint dry :) Shaun It will harden over time (I gather that compound such as Arctic Silver) gradually sets when the PC is used and then when it is set it works better. But yeah, just apply it and start the PC up. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 04/10/10 18:36, javadayaz wrote: So the changing the usb settings did the trick. The keyboard is now operational. The cpu thermal seems to have been a waste though..and in vain...its still showing at the 53c...although I suppose its better than before. Yep that's definitely an improvement although keep an eye on it as it might go up when it's under load. If it still doesn't get any better you'd probably be better off getting a new heatsink and fan and some good compound. Here's an article comparing the stock cooler and an after market cooler (okay it covers the Intel Core i7 but the general idea is the same): http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/heatsink-heatpipe-cpu,2375.html ...and doing a quick Google search came up with this: http://www.frostytech.com and this... http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm Should give you some suggestions of what to look out for if you do replace your heatsink and fan. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Ok so everything seems fine but I can't seem to boot up..I'm getting a screen with some options as follows; Linux mint 8 helena, linux 2.6.31-22-generic , linux(recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest 86+ serial console 115200) Please not there's a few more in there similair to first entry..but I didn't type it in coz I'm ttyping on a handheld... Hope someone can help... On 03/10/10 12:12, javadayaz wrote: CPU fan is working fine... If it's 71°C then it looks like your fan isn't working fine! It could be clogged up with dust. Dust is not your friend, if the fan is dusty say between the metal fins then it works like a blanket, air can't get through and cool the fins down so it gets hotter and hotter. You might also need to apply a fresh coat of heatsink compound. What CPU do you have by the way? You may even want to look at replacing the cooler with something bigger/better. You don't have to go too expensive but you should be able to get a reasonable fan for around £10 to £15 online (or possibly nearer to £20 to £25 from PC World). Personally I have a nice big Zalman fan... http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120876 It wasn't cheap (traditionally I've not spent any more than about 6 or 7 quid on a fan) but it cooled down my hot Phenom X4 and it's now in the wife's PC cooling down her overclocked Pentium Dual Core. It's silent too (although it has sharp fins). I've also used something like this before too which was pretty good: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157 Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 4 October 2010 19:34, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so everything seems fine but I can't seem to boot up..I'm getting a screen with some options as follows; Linux mint 8 helena, linux 2.6.31-22-generic , linux (recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest 86+ serial console 115200) Please not there's a few more in there similair to first entry..but I didn't type it in coz I'm ttyping on a handheld... Hope someone can help... Sounds like the boot menu. Using the arrow keys will change the selected option. Pressing Enter will boot the selected one. Sounds like either the timeout options or the hiding options have been changed. After you've booted, reply and we'll ask some more questions so that we can work out how to stop the menu appearing again (if that's what you want). Cofion/regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 04/10/10 18:36, javadayaz wrote: So the changing the usb settings did the trick. The keyboard is now operational. The cpu thermal seems to have been a waste though..and in vain...its still showing at the 53c...although I suppose its better than before. Ok, so how did you change the usb settings, I wonder if that is what is happening with my numbers thing. Can you give me some directions? John -- Ubuntu User #30817 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 16:32 +0100, pmgazz wrote: One of mine's making a noise like an idling black cab This is definitely the fan motor bearings. I had one go just like that last year. The motor gets stuck in a resonance mode before it gets up to full speed, hence the noise and poor cooling performance. A well judged shock can help the motor to drive through the resonance zone and get to full speed but things will only get worse over time. Barry -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Ok booted upwhat next please? On 4 October 2010 19:34, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so everything seems fine but I can't seem to boot up..I'm getting a screen with some options as follows; Linux mint 8 helena, linux 2.6.31-22-generic , linux(recovery mode) Memory test (memtest86+) Memory test (memtest 86+ serial console 115200) Please not there's a few more in there similair to first entry..but I didn't type it in coz I'm ttyping on a handheld... Hope someone can help... Sounds like the boot menu. Using the arrow keys will change the selected option. Pressing Enter will boot the selected one. Sounds like either the timeout options or the hiding options have been changed. After you've booted, reply and we'll ask some more questions so that we can work out how to stop the menu appearing again (if that's what you want). Cofion/regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Symlinking to USB hard drives
Hi all, I have a couple of matched USB hard drives that I use as part of my backup strategy. At the moment they both have the same label, so they end up mounted at /media/backup. But this means I can't easily tell which drive is which, and when I plug the second in, it gets mounted at /media/backup_. I'd like to re-label the drives to backup1 and backup2, but then have a symlink automatically created at /media/backup to whichever drive was first plugged in. I think I need to use a udev rule, but other than that I'm not sure. Does anyone have any ideas? Cofion/regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
On 4 October 2010 19:34, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Linux mint 8 helena, linux 2.6.31-22-generic You do realise you're not running Ubuntu there? Linux Mint, whilst based on Ubuntu, isn't Ubuntu. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:03:43 +0100 Jacob Mansfield wrote: could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? Regarding the converting of MP3s to OGG Vorbis audio files... don't. I know keeping MP3s around kinda goes against the ethos and spirit of FLOSS, but if you care about audio quality then you'll re-rip the audio and store as either FLAC or OGG-Vorbis. Converting from one lossy format to another lossy format is just a recipe for poor audio quality files as an end result. Grant. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
can't re-rip them, I never had the CDs in the first place. my boss sent me most of this stuff On 4 October 2010 21:12, Grant Sewell dcg...@thymox.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:03:43 +0100 Jacob Mansfield wrote: could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? Regarding the converting of MP3s to OGG Vorbis audio files... don't. I know keeping MP3s around kinda goes against the ethos and spirit of FLOSS, but if you care about audio quality then you'll re-rip the audio and store as either FLAC or OGG-Vorbis. Converting from one lossy format to another lossy format is just a recipe for poor audio quality files as an end result. Grant. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files than let a tool do it for me) Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Musick Manager
can't find that in synaptic. AmorK can only import individual files, banshee duplicated everything and crashes every ten seconds and rhythmbox lacks the MP3 player features as well as crashing every few seconds On 4 October 2010 21:21, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: It might help if you said why the others failed you. I love amazon, and it should do most of your list (though I prefer to manage my library as files than let a tool do it for me) Anton - Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos: http:// www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37] (http:// www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 4 Oct 2010 21:04, Jacob Mansfield cyberja...@gmail.com wrote: could anybody recommend a good music player/manager, I've just spent 4 hours clearing up after banshee, amorak and rhythmbox and I'm not happy. it has to be able to consolidate my music library using move, NOT COPY. use 'smart play-lists' get album art. manage the content on my mp3 player based on what I haven't herd recently. oh and did I mention I have 105GB of MP3s which I also want to convert into ogg vorbis. any ideas about this? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
Yes I know but I'm sure there are similarities then there are differnces... :) On 4 October 2010 19:34, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Linux mint 8 helena, linux 2.6.31-22-generic You do realise you're not running Ubuntu there? Linux Mint, whilst based on Ubuntu, isn't Ubuntu. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diagnostics tools
I'm using 1,97 of grub...I only know this coz its displayed on the screen I'm stuck on... Can't get passed this screen to get to synaptic or terminal... On 4 Oct 2010 21:03, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 4 October 2010 20:16, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: Ok booted upwhat next please? ... Sorry for the delay, I had to do some research on Grub1. :-) What version of grub are you running? That's the program that is displaying the boot menu. You can look in Synaptic and search for 'grub', or type 'dpkg --list grub' in a terminal - if this is installed the last line shown will start 'ii'. If the 'grub' package is installed, that's Grub1. Otherwise you're using Grub2 (which probably has a version number of 1.97 or 1.98). For Grub1, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (that's LST in lower case), and 'uncomment' the 'hiddenmenu' option. IIRC, it will currently have 2 # marks at the front of the line, change it to just 1. For Grub2 you need to edit /etc/default/grub, and you need to look for the GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT values. GRUB_TIMEOUT should be set to 0 (zero). GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT should be set to a value between zero and about 2. Whichever file you are editing, you will need to have root permission to edit it (try Alt-F2, then type 'gksu gedit filename' without the quotes and replacing the filename for the relevant version of Grub). If you get stuck, let us know. Cofion, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wi... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Alessio, i would like to help in any way i can... testing is something i can handle with my current skill level... anything else i can learn to do, i am willing.. i use your -realtime kernel in lucid right now, but i'll help where ever i can... thanks... On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
I suppose I would be most interested in the -rt kernel. I can help with testing, but I am willing to learn more. At least one new release each year, I think. LTS seems too far apart. It would be great if people from different audio distros could collaborate on this particular problem, but maybe the 1/2 year dev cycle is not good for everyone? I know that the guys at puredyne were building their own rt-kernel, but decided to use the one from Ubuntu's repo for their 9.10 release. Perhaps if the development cycle was once a year instead of twice a year, it would be easier to get more people involved? Just an idea. On 10/04/2010 06:13 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: Alessio, i would like to help in any way i can... testing is something i can handle with my current skill level... anything else i can learn to do, i am willing.. i use your -realtime kernel in lucid right now, but i'll help where ever i can... thanks... On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.com mailto:abog...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: 2010/10/4 Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.com: Do you know of some sort of bugs on that kernel? Are you using some closed video drivers (nvidia, fglrx, virtualbox, lirc, drbd, asterisk, bcmwl, r5u87xa and so on)? Do you plan to migrate to Maverick soon or remain stick on Lucid? Which arch are you using (i386 known as 32 bit or amd64 known as 64 bit systems. Damn Italian keyboard! Ciao, Alessio ~ passed to topo chico I would also ask that Alessio or anyone else who knows send links for how to learn this stuff. I'll spend some time today researching, but it would make things a little easier if people who know could just point us in the right direction. Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say that my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the open drivers, and so I need to use fglrx. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Ailo, 2010/10/4 ailo ailo...@gmail.com: [...] It would be great if people from different audio distros could collaborate on this particular problem, but maybe the 1/2 year dev cycle is not good for everyone? As you know well there are a lot of distributions use Ubuntu Studio as their base but I never see any type of help (bug reporting or fix, suggestion on configuration and so on) came from they. So this proposal don't be sure turned to me. From that list I must exclude KXStudio. Perhaps if the development cycle was once a year instead of twice a year, it would be easier to get more people involved? Upstream isn't interested in it at all. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Brian, 2010/10/4 Brian David beej...@gmail.com: [...] I would also ask that Alessio or anyone else who knows send links for how to learn this stuff. I'll spend some time today researching, but it would make things a little easier if people who know could just point us in the right direction. It is really hard pinpoint on something useful if you don't explain me what do you would want learn. Kernel programming? Test on latency and jitter corner case? Tips Tricks? What is the final objective do you want achieve? Without that specification I couldn't suggest something. Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say that my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the open drivers, and so I need to use fglrx. I'll take care only of the bugs reported by active people(*) . Do you want one of these? :) Ciao, Alessio (*) Sorry but it seems to me the only way to guarantee future on this project (aka realtime kernel on Studio). -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: It is really hard pinpoint on something useful if you don't explain me what do you would want learn. Kernel programming? Test on latency and jitter corner case? Tips Tricks? What is the final objective do you want achieve? Without that specification I couldn't suggest something. I would like to have reference for all of these things. I want to know about the whole process that you need to do to get an -rt kernel prepared. That is the goal: to make a good -rt kernel. That may sound broad, and that's because I don't even know were to start. I have know idea what particular issues I'd be interested in, and which ones I can best help on, because I don't know anything about the process. Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say that my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the open drivers, and so I need to use fglrx. I'll take care only of the bugs reported by active people(*) . Do you want one of these? :) To clarify, are you asking if I want to report a bug? Or be an active member? I would like to be both. If you are asking if I want to report a bug, do you mean via Launchpad? See, this what I mean. I'm starting from an extreme point of ignorance here. Don't assume any prior knowledge. This is often a problem on lists like this. People will come in with earnest desires to help, and when they ask how they can start, they can get obtuse answers like 'start reporting bugs'. Reporting bugs where? And how? What's the most effective way to report bugs? Have you ever seen the posts on a Launchpad bug? They're confusing! What are those people doing? (yes, I am being a little goofy here) This is not meant to offend anyone, I just think that a lot of the more experienced users on the list, especially the ones who are asking for more support, don't genuinely know how they come across to beginners. I've been on this list for a while, and I have seen several people stop participating because they get what seems like rude behavior from people who are asking for their help (I do not mean that you are being rude, Alessio, because you are not. It's an overall observation.) Sometimes the rudeness is not intentional, it's just people giving an answer that they feel is adequate, when it is not. This a tough environment for beginners, and that's a problem when we are trying to recruit people. The best thing we can do to get more people on board is to figure out how to get them the information they need -- and be VERY detailed and nice about it. Sorry, that ended up being more long-winded than I expected. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner passionsplaydes...@gmail.com wrote: I hope to address some of the questions in this email later this week. Properly identifying the audience and the purpose of the website is critical in order to make the website useful. I have given it quite a bit of thought but haven't really devoted time to fleshing it out and writing it down. However, in that fashion I have been working on this mock-up for the past two weeks while exploring audience and purpose: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png I trust that most people will find this mock-up far superior to my last one ;) Comments are encouraged and welcomed (even ones that say it sucks). ScottL I'm liking the general direction this is headed. I would say that it looks a little busy. Also, I think using Linux for Creative Humans is better than Set Your Creativity Free. I also don't care for the Experience. . . added to the Ubuntu Logo. Those are the initial thoughts that come to mind. Also, were you thinking there would be a gateway page, or would this be the page people see immediately upon going to ubuntustudio.com? Would you be able to send a link for the .svg? I'd like to try combining some of your ideas with the things I've been working on, and see what that might look like. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Alessio, *Which are kernels on you are interested in? *-*rt * *Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? -rt* I use the *-rt kernel on a daily basis* for both multimedia work and non-multimedia work, on my laptop, and it is very reliable for me and I never get xruns in Ardour with it. I (and probably many others on this list) do not have a good grasp of who is doing what in regards to Ubuntu Studio, but I'd like to understand more. I'd like to learn more about what is involved with getting an -rt kernel available for Ubuntu Studio and I'd be willing to help. *How do you want to help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Test* Not sure what the *relation items mean, but if pointed to some educational materials, perhaps I can help with other things as well. *Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Preferably every release.* Alessio, what you wrote at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel is very helpful information. Do you have any advice on where I can learn more so that I can more effectively help? * *-Erik On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 09:27, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Sporadic UI halts on Meerkat Netbook - how to debug
Le lundi 04 octobre 2010 à 21:42 +0300, Mikko Ohtamaa a écrit : Hi, I am trying Maverick Meerkat Netbook remix on Asus 1005HA Eee Pc. I like it. Finally the Linux desktop is going to right direction. However, I am having some slowdown issues. Once in a while (...or many times during an hour) everything besides the mouse cursor in the user interface halts. The text cursor stops blinking (no matter what application). I suspect this might have something to do with disk IO as the netbook has very slow disk and I have encrypted home folder. Each halts last 5-10 seconds and since they happen often they hit hard the overall user experience. Basic tasks like editing the text on the computer become pain. These are the typical symptoms of an I/O bug nobody has been able to identify and which has generated many comments. See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/131094 but don't expect to find help there, as we don't even know whether there are several bugs mixed or a single root cause... :-( I have some background tasks running (Skype, Quassel), but it should be nothing killing the performance. Windows XP can handle things just fine. The only thing that is likely to create a high I/O load regularly is swapping. I'd suggest you avoid running too many programs at the same time. You can use the command 'free -m' to see how many free RAM you have. Now, my question is, how to debug these halt or stop issues. I suspect if I could get history graph of CPU and IO per application level it would help greatly. Also, the problem might be in kernel services (disk io, OpenGL, sound?) . If your problem is actually the swapping + I/O bug issue, I don't think you can do much to help, except if you have enough skills to convince kernel developers that they can do something about it. If you're ready to answer a long series of technical questions, then you can send a mail to the kernel development list (lkml.org). But before that, it would be useful to check that system logs don't show something interesting each time you suffer from the bug (use System-Administration-Log viewer and have a look at these files). Also running the command 'top' and checking what applications are using RAM may simply reveal that one of them is leaking memory (type '' to sort processes by order of physical RAM usage). Regards -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
ubuntu 10.10 launch party melbourne
hey guys I don't think anyone has organised a 10.10 launch party in melbourne yet so here is my suggestion. feel free to come and join me sun 10.10.10 6:30pm jawa bar, 297 Victoria Street West Melbourne. its a quick tram ride from the city, not far from the queen vic markets. the bar will allow us to order take-away from around the area and eat it in the bar so we will probably be sharing pizza for dinner. we will be sitting out the back. if you have any problems finding us gimme me a call on 0411 437137 can someone has has admin access to ubuntu.org.au please post this there? peter -- www.peter.id.au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Deadline for translations on live-cd
El dj 30 de 09 de 2010 a les 11:05 +0200, en/na Bruno Patri va escriure: Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 21:38:49, Dylan McCall a écrit : If you see anything else, let me know! I should probably add a note mentioning it needs Javascript. (Although that kind of message feels very 90s…) Hi Dylan, I noticed a strange CSS rule in the slideshow (in the online demo) : font-family:'UbuntuBeta', sans-serif; I've installed the ttf-ubuntu-font-family package but it doesn't works because the font name is just 'Ubuntu'. Maybe this has been already fixed. Yes, this has already been fixed. It is now font-family:'Ubuntu', 'UbuntuBeta', sans-serif; UbuntuBeta was the name of the font family while the font was available in the beta testers PPA. Now that the Ubuntu font is available in the repositories, the name is 'Ubuntu'. Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: [UIFe] message timestamps are too verbose in empathy chat
El dv 01 de 10 de 2010 a les 14:59 +0500, en/na Omer Akram va escriure: Hi all. In Maverick adium theme accepted a few patches during that a patch went in which introduced a problem i.e. every chat message in empathy now shows fulldate, time and even seconds. a user dont want to know that detailed information during a chat and also as ubuntu is using sans as document font and not the ubuntu font. empathy use document for chats so that makes thing really look weired. I have screenshots. this is the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adium-theme-ubuntu/+bug/619932 Thanks Omer for the notification. By looking at the patch, it seems that translations are not modified, so from the translations side: +1 Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
Hi all, Some days ago I was asking you for feedback on the translations roadmap for the 11.04 cycle [1], and at this point I must send you a big thanks: you've all provided great ideas and comments, which I'll try to address by responding to them directly in this thread. I'm working on the plan right now, and on the next few days I'll be drafting the blueprints for what will become the sessions at UDS were we'll discuss the roadmap's objectives. We will obviously won't be able to work on every one of the ideas you've provided, so I'll be picking up the ones I believe to be most important for the translations community. If I did not pick up one of your suggestions, don't be discouraged: if you want to, feel free to still lead the effort of implementing it. Even if it's not on the roadmap, I'll help you in what I can. Let's start by Milo's ideas: El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 12:06 +0200, en/na Milo Casagrande va escriure: Hi David, On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 19:17, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi all, In the Community team at Canonical we are now starting to lay out the plans for the 11.04 roadmap for translations. For this, we really value your input and would very much like to take your ideas and feedback into account. One of the key areas I'd like to work on in this cycle, for instance, is outreach: we want to bang the drum and get people excited and involved in translations. What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on? Maybe, as a short-term goal, I was thinking about reaching out translator teams, and ask them if they have story to share about how, a translated version of Ubuntu, has helped people/companies/schools in a particular way, something that a non-translated version couldn't have achieved, and share their story on the Fridge, pointing out how important is the translators work. I really like this idea, I think it would be good to start a coordinated effort to publish stories for each translation team. I'm planning to have a UDS session on this. We should probably try to have more translators on the hall-of-fame, We haven't updated the Hall Of Fame for a while, so the status of the HoF is right now on hold, unless someone finds the time to step up and help maintaining it. That's the reason why we haven't been adding any rockstar contributors (be it in translation or in any area). and start publishing more translators interview. We should be publishing the interviews monthly, but there seems to have been some delay in the last one. It's been hectic lately with the preparation of several OpenWeek, AppDeveloperWeek and such events, but I'll try to see if we can unblock it and start publishing the next batch of interviews. What follows is probably a very very long term thing, maybe not implementable too... but anyway. I would really like to see a community-driven web portal where translator groups (but not only them) can get together, a sort-of Language Portal like Microsoft has, but better and open-source: http://www.microsoft.com/Language/en-US/Default.aspx Maybe somebody will turn up their nose because it's Microsoft, but I think that portal is very well done, and a precious resource for translators. I've been using that portal for a while to look into how certain words are translated into my language from a very big software company like Microsoft. I've done this also to try to keep some kind of cross-operating-system coherence when translating technical terms (so maybe users will not feel lost). Think about this portal as a glossary on steroids, but not only a mere glossary portal: a new professional look for Ubuntu and FLOSS translators, and the work they do. A forum where translators can share opinions, and talk about their language, where developers can get information on how to i18n-ize their application, what are the tools the FLOSS world has for i18n; and where developers can find very good and motivated translators to help their apps reach the most number of people. What do you think? That's something I've been thinking for a while. I too had seen the Microsoft languages portal a while ago (it looked a bit different than now, there were also case stories and such), so I'm glad someone else brings up the subject as well. Despite all attempts to structure the contents on the Translations namespace and to simplify the main page so that people can easily find the info they need (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/), the wiki has grown too big for being able to store all the content related to translations and present it to new users in a way that is both easy to use and attractive. I've been discussing this with Jono, and also looking at the awesome work my team mate Ahmed has been doing on a Cloud Portal, and I think it is the time for a Translations Portal. The idea of the portal is to have a site on http://translations.ubuntu.com that can serve to
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dl 27 de 09 de 2010 a les 15:00 -0400, en/na Scott Kitterman va escriure: On Thursday, September 16, 2010 01:17:49 pm David Planella wrote: Hi all, In the Community team at Canonical we are now starting to lay out the plans for the 11.04 roadmap for translations. For this, we really value your input and would very much like to take your ideas and feedback into account. One of the key areas I'd like to work on in this cycle, for instance, is outreach: we want to bang the drum and get people excited and involved in translations. What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on? There are some projects where we would really rather existing translations not be changed in Launchpad. It would be quite useful to be able to mark templates from certain packages as unmodifiable and limit Ubuntu translation work to supplying translations for untranslated strings. Scott K Thanks Scott for the good feeback as usual. Yours is a valid request, but I'd prefer discussing it in another thread. Implementing this would mean adding a feature to Launchpad, but as mentioned on the follow-up e-mail to my original a few days ago, this thread is for discussion of plans related to the Ubuntu translations community. For any technical discussion or requests, I'd suggest opening a separate thread on the ubuntu-translators list or rather in launchpad-dev. Your request has been echoed before, and it is not something trivial to implement: while some translation teams might want to work upstream exclusively, others might want to work on Launchpad only and then send translations upstream. I've seen both workflows, and right now this is something better controlled by the translation teams themselves than on a Launchpad-wide setting. Since we requested all translation teams to be moderated and the global policy on translations for Ubuntu to be Restricted, this has been working quite well. We've got scarce development resources for working on Launchpad Translations, and defining the priorities to work requires always a balance between new features and work that provides an immediate benefit to translators and upstreams. Right now the Launchpad Translations developers are working in providing a better upstream integration experience, which I believe to be a higher priority at this time. Therefore, they won't likely have the time to work on any new feature such as template locking in the near future. In any case, that should not discourage anyone in contributing to this, and the Launchpad Translations development team will be happy to mentor anyone willing to step up and work on such a feature (or any other). Regards, David. -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator www.ubuntu.com / www.davidplanella.wordpress.com www.identi.ca/dplanella / www.twitter.com/dplanella signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dv 17 de 09 de 2010 a les 11:33 +0200, en/na Andrej Žnidaršič va escriure: Hello ! For attracting new translators i believe most of the effort must be done by each local translation team. From my experience one needs to show to the other people that it's fun and rewarding thing to do. Also a team should get a chatroom where people interested in translations or translators can share info, discuss, coordinate, etc. In our case we used jabber chat room from http://partychapp.appspot.com/ as many new contributors were not comfortable/had difficulities with irc but almost all had google /jabber accounts. That's a good tip. Different teams use different workflows, so this might work better on some teams that others. I'll take a note to add it to the best practices and advice for new teams. About string reorganization: I don't think singificantly more people will translate if they see easy strings first. They might translate first few, but they are going to stop at difficult ones. In my opinion easy strings like Add are of medium importance as most people already know what they mean or can easily look it up (i guess it depends on the country one comes from). What is the most important are long, difficult strings as one cannot look them up in a dictionary / online. I'm not planning to focus on any string reorganization effort. If this were to happen, I believe it should be done by prioritizing the most visible strings first. If anyone would want to work on this, a suggestion would be (roughly) a coordinated effort to: * Collect the data of the most visible strings in the desktop * Work with gettext upstream to implement a per-string prioritization * Implement per-string priorities in Launchpad While useful, this seems to me like a significant amount of work. In addition to that, there should be an easy way to update the priorities at least on a per-release basis. I think what we have now, in terms of per-template priorities (i.e. most important templates are shown first on the list) is a good compromise with the functionality we've got. Of course it would even be better to organize the templates per package sets (e.g. GNOME, KDE, etc.), but as mentioned on the previous e-mail, the Launchpad Translations developers focus right now is not on new features, but rather upstream integration. And I won't get tired of repeating it :) Launchpad is Free Software, so if any one at one point would and enjoy the experience of working in such a big and fast-paced project and contribute to it by scratching their own itch and implementing new features that can be useful to all translators, the Launchpad devs will be more than happy to mentor them. Here are some pointers to get started: https://dev.launchpad.net/ I agree the most important think translations should focus is easy upstream coordination. both ways. For example, a translation was imported from compiz into launchpad, by a person who i cannot contact. There were some bugs in translations. We fixed them and wanted to send the .po file upstream. Unfortunately slovenian team does not exist for compiz and they only have pootble for translation (cannot import .po). After half an hour hunting for people on irc i was redirected to ubuntu package maintainters, but i don't think they can contribute directly to upstream (will ask them, need to check). We've discussed this on IRC already, but I'll include the answer for the benefit of other translators. No, maintainers cannot generally contribute to upstream translations. Apart from the fact that they could not handle requests from all translation teams, they might not even have commit rights to the upstream projects or not be versed in how translations work. And most importantly, in general the work of translation teams should not be bypassed. They are ultimately responsible for QA'ing translations, and a maintainer that does not speak a particular language might not be the best person to submit a translation, unless he's intimately familiar and already involved with the translation workflow of the particular project. There are lots of small projects (in terms of translations) like compiz. Of course it would be best if the translations were automatically signed. But even if some simplificaion of the process would be really great. I think it would be really great if; a) there would be a list of all packages with links with upstream and even better if we could assign some people who have good contact with smaller upstream projects (meaning excluding Gnome, kde, debian and translaton project, possibly package maintainers), so that we could send them the .po files and they would know who they should send it to and how should they commit it. This would save people a massive amount of time as we don't need to hunt down the people thorugh which we can commit the packages. Also the people responsible wouldn't have too much work, as i
Is Rhythmbox translated in your language? If yes, please test indicator-sound
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-sound/+bug/654140 This most likely happens only when Rhythmbox (the name itself) is translated. Please report by replying or in Launchpad. Jiri -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
On Monday, October 04, 2010 02:44:39 pm David Planella wrote: El dl 27 de 09 de 2010 a les 15:00 -0400, en/na Scott Kitterman va escriure: On Thursday, September 16, 2010 01:17:49 pm David Planella wrote: Hi all, In the Community team at Canonical we are now starting to lay out the plans for the 11.04 roadmap for translations. For this, we really value your input and would very much like to take your ideas and feedback into account. One of the key areas I'd like to work on in this cycle, for instance, is outreach: we want to bang the drum and get people excited and involved in translations. What are your thoughts and ideas? What do you think we should focus on? There are some projects where we would really rather existing translations not be changed in Launchpad. It would be quite useful to be able to mark templates from certain packages as unmodifiable and limit Ubuntu translation work to supplying translations for untranslated strings. Scott K Thanks Scott for the good feeback as usual. Yours is a valid request, but I'd prefer discussing it in another thread. Implementing this would mean adding a feature to Launchpad, but as mentioned on the follow-up e-mail to my original a few days ago, this thread is for discussion of plans related to the Ubuntu translations community. For any technical discussion or requests, I'd suggest opening a separate thread on the ubuntu-translators list or rather in launchpad-dev. Your request has been echoed before, and it is not something trivial to implement: while some translation teams might want to work upstream exclusively, others might want to work on Launchpad only and then send translations upstream. I've seen both workflows, and right now this is something better controlled by the translation teams themselves than on a Launchpad-wide setting. Since we requested all translation teams to be moderated and the global policy on translations for Ubuntu to be Restricted, this has been working quite well. We've got scarce development resources for working on Launchpad Translations, and defining the priorities to work requires always a balance between new features and work that provides an immediate benefit to translators and upstreams. Right now the Launchpad Translations developers are working in providing a better upstream integration experience, which I believe to be a higher priority at this time. Therefore, they won't likely have the time to work on any new feature such as template locking in the near future. In any case, that should not discourage anyone in contributing to this, and the Launchpad Translations development team will be happy to mentor anyone willing to step up and work on such a feature (or any other). I'm not subscribed to any of those lists, so (since I know this request isn't news to you), please keep it in mind. The lack of this feature makes use of LP translations quite problematic from my point of view for KDE (I know this is also not news). Scott K -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
El dg 03 de 10 de 2010 a les 09:43 +0200, en/na Yaron Shahrabani va escriure: I think we should add it to the roadmap, any objections? Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator Hi Yaron, As mentioned before, the roadmap is for projects or objectives related primarily to the translations community. While this would certainly provide a big benefit to the translations community, it is mainly a Launchpad Translations feature request. Even then, it might make sense to add it to the roadmap. However, I feel that this would be a significant piece of work, probably spanning several Ubuntu cycles, and the use case and specification are still a bit vague. It is also not clear to me who'd be willing to lead and contribute to this effort, which would also mean getting familiar with Launchpad development and its code base and how it is designed. With this in mind, I think I'd prefer not to add it to the roadmap. Please don't feel discouraged about this. If you would like to work on this either by developing it or coordinating it, feel free to go on. You'll certainly have the support of the Launchpad development team. However, I'd first recommend to write a complete specification about the feature and its implementation, as I believe it to be essential for any development work planning. Thanks! Regards, David. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ofir Klinger klinger.o...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a great idea! When I translated Amarok (upstream) I opened Amarok in my language and marked the untranslated strings in Amarok. Then I searched for them in the po file and translated them. Many strings were impossible to translate right without the context, as different languages as different ways to the same thing. I am all for it, and I am willing to help updating the screenshots. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought of another idea. Would it be possible then with those images to have the po files attached so that translators can updated them there directly, and see how they will look on the ui of a particular program? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Its all a matter of seconds, once the feature is available the translators will find it useful and will be motivated to use it, it's just like translating a software with a resource editor which is way easier than translating a po file Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: im no translator, but am a pot full of ideas. i think one problem we will run into is keeping pages up to date in regards to the images, when strings change up stream or as newer versions are released. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect!! I guess implementing this feature might cause a slower interface (AJAX) but way more intuitive and friendly. I would love to hear more suggestions... Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: this is just an idea for me
Re: Ubuntu 11.04 Translations Plans
David my idea was rather simple have a screen shot. then translators can translate it in lp and on the screenshot and it directly edits the po file on the back end with out the user having to touch it. Also translators can see how the strings will look prior to release. i would more then willingly help but i have lots on my plate at the moment. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.comwrote: El dg 03 de 10 de 2010 a les 09:43 +0200, en/na Yaron Shahrabani va escriure: I think we should add it to the roadmap, any objections? Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator Hi Yaron, As mentioned before, the roadmap is for projects or objectives related primarily to the translations community. While this would certainly provide a big benefit to the translations community, it is mainly a Launchpad Translations feature request. Even then, it might make sense to add it to the roadmap. However, I feel that this would be a significant piece of work, probably spanning several Ubuntu cycles, and the use case and specification are still a bit vague. It is also not clear to me who'd be willing to lead and contribute to this effort, which would also mean getting familiar with Launchpad development and its code base and how it is designed. With this in mind, I think I'd prefer not to add it to the roadmap. Please don't feel discouraged about this. If you would like to work on this either by developing it or coordinating it, feel free to go on. You'll certainly have the support of the Launchpad development team. However, I'd first recommend to write a complete specification about the feature and its implementation, as I believe it to be essential for any development work planning. Thanks! Regards, David. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Ofir Klinger klinger.o...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is a great idea! When I translated Amarok (upstream) I opened Amarok in my language and marked the untranslated strings in Amarok. Then I searched for them in the po file and translated them. Many strings were impossible to translate right without the context, as different languages as different ways to the same thing. I am all for it, and I am willing to help updating the screenshots. On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought of another idea. Would it be possible then with those images to have the po files attached so that translators can updated them there directly, and see how they will look on the ui of a particular program? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Its all a matter of seconds, once the feature is available the translators will find it useful and will be motivated to use it, it's just like translating a software with a resource editor which is way easier than translating a po file Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: im no translator, but am a pot full of ideas. i think one problem we will run into is keeping pages up to date in regards to the images, when strings change up stream or as newer versions are released. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com wrote: Perfect!! I guess implementing this feature might cause a slower interface (AJAX) but way more intuitive and friendly. I would love to hear more suggestions... Yaron Shahrabani Hebrew translator On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Jonathan Aquilina eagles051...@gmail.com wrote: this is just an idea
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 11:07 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote: On 10/04/2010 10:40 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: 2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier jer...@autostatic.com: On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote: spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think. Ubuntu don't support make-pkg. Ciao, Alessio Hello Alessio, As of which release? I've built several kernels with make-kpkg for 9.04 and 9.10 (to include dsdt tables for my netbook). Haven't tried with 10.04 though. Best, Jeremy Jeremy, I did compile with make-kpkg for Hardy 8.04, resp. 64 Studio 3.0 - beta, based on Hardy and it did work. If you should have got the time to do it, would you please try to test, if there won't be an initrd for you too, building on Lucid or later version of Ubuntu? Copy and paste should be ok, if you allow HTML for received messages ;). wget ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.33.7.tar.bz2 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/projects/rt/patch-2.6.33.7-rt29.bz2 tar xvjf linux-2.6.33.7.tar.bz2 mv linux-2.6.33.7 linux-2.6.33.7-rt29 ln -s linux-2.6.33.7-rt29 linux cd linux mv ../patch-2.6.33.7-rt29.bz2 ../linux bunzip2 patch-2.6.33.7-rt29.bz2 patch -p1 patch-2.6.33.7-rt29 If uname -r is 2.6.32-25-preempt, than ... cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) .config make oldconfig ... should need to push enter all the times only. I guess it's needed to disable staging on any machine, so ... gedit .config Editing CONFIG_STAGING=y to # CONFIG_STAGING is not set ... and then make oldconfig There should be nothing to do when running make oldconfig. make-kpkg clean make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source or perhaps fakeroot first. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories
Hi, 2010/10/3 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: [...] 2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1 2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver? Please remember that every driver which use DKMS infrastructure (like nvidia and fglrx) require mandatory installation of headers packages of all installed kernels. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier jer...@autostatic.com: On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote: spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think. Ubuntu don't support make-pkg. Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 11:07 +0200, Jeremy Jongepier wrote: On 10/04/2010 10:40 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: 2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier jer...@autostatic.com: On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote: spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think. Ubuntu don't support make-pkg. Ciao, Alessio Hello Alessio, As of which release? I've built several kernels with make-kpkg for 9.04 and 9.10 (to include dsdt tables for my netbook). Haven't tried with 10.04 though. Best, Jeremy I did read all emails and will reply later this day or tomorrow, the flu I've got is a PITA, I can't stay long on the computer ;). But this is very important. 'make-kpkg' did build: spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~ ls /media/ubuntu_studio/usr/src/linux* /media/ubuntu_studio/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.33.7-rt29_2.6.33.7-rt29-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb /media/ubuntu_studio/usr/src/linux-image-2.6.33.7-rt29_2.6.33.7-rt29-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb /media/ubuntu_studio/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.33.7-rt29_2.6.33.7-rt29-10.00.Custom_all.deb It's just that initrd isn't included to linux-image-2.6.33.7-rt29_2.6.33.7-rt29-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb. How should a kernel be build for Ubuntu today? Cheers! Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
Jeremy, 2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier jer...@autostatic.com: Ubuntu don't support make-pkg. [...] As of which release? I've built several kernels with make-kpkg for 9.04 and 9.10 (to include dsdt tables for my netbook). Haven't tried with 10.04 though. I don't recall when make-kpkg started to create problems but you can notice that neither Ubuntu Kernel Team Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/) nor Ubuntu kernel packaging contains any reference to make-kpkg. Moreover the package which contains that utility (that is kernel-package) is in universe so that should be an evident sign. Feel free to use what do you want but keep in mind that isn't the official Ubuntu way to build a kernel (so it is unsupported). Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote: spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think. Best, Jeremy -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Missing initrd when building a kernel-rt
On 10/04/2010 10:40 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: 2010/10/4 Jeremy Jongepier jer...@autostatic.com: On 10/03/2010 07:41 AM, Ralf wrote: spinymo...@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux$ make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd Hmm, and what if you try fakeroot make-kpg --initrd kernel-image kernel-headers kernel-source ? Shouldn't make a difference though I think. Ubuntu don't support make-pkg. Ciao, Alessio Hello Alessio, As of which release? I've built several kernels with make-kpkg for 9.04 and 9.10 (to include dsdt tables for my netbook). Haven't tried with 10.04 though. Best, Jeremy -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Alessio, *Which are kernels on you are interested in? *-*rt * *Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? -rt* I use the *-rt kernel on a daily basis* for both multimedia work and non-multimedia work, on my laptop, and it is very reliable for me and I never get xruns in Ardour with it. I (and probably many others on this list) do not have a good grasp of who is doing what in regards to Ubuntu Studio, but I'd like to understand more. I'd like to learn more about what is involved with getting an -rt kernel available for Ubuntu Studio and I'd be willing to help. *How do you want to help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Test* Not sure what the *relation items mean, but if pointed to some educational materials, perhaps I can help with other things as well. *Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Preferably every release.* Alessio, what you wrote at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel is very helpful information. Do you have any advice on where I can learn more so that I can more effectively help? * *-Erik On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 09:27, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Real-time kernels from the Ubuntu Studio Lucid repositories
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani abog...@ubuntu.comwrote: Hi, 2010/10/3 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: [...] 2.6.31-11-rt ends in tty1 2.6.31-10-rt ends also in tty1, for this kernel I logged in and run Did you try the proprietary nvidia driver? Please remember that every driver which use DKMS infrastructure (like nvidia and fglrx) require mandatory installation of headers packages of all installed kernels. Ciao, Alessio I ran into a problem with this the other day. Some sort of re-installation of fglrx had to take place on my computer, but the package would not build under the -realtime kernel. As a result, the package didn't builld under any of my kernels, and I lost my video driver. I had to entirely uninstall the -realtime kernel, including all headers, before I could re-install fglrx to the -generic kernel. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Hi Erik, 2010/10/4 Erik Rasmussen mailfore...@gmail.com: [...] Could you subscribe -devel mailing list and provide your feedback on: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-October/002648.html, please? Thanks! Ciao, Alessio -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Last call (was Natty and RT Kernel)
Le 04/10/2010 16:27, Alessio Igor Bogani a écrit : Hi, If you would want help in kernel stuff for Ubuntu Studio please reply to these questions: Which are kernels on you are interested in? The -rt, -lowlatency or -realtime? Real time for audio, is there de difference beetween the three proposals ? Which kernels you use on per day basis (so you can provide at least test and feedback)? RT for multimedia, audio and video editing, RT for non-multimedia work How do you would want help (test, packaging, upstream relation, Ubuntu relation, Studio relation and so on)? testing, advertising, conference, demonstration to large public Which Ubuntu releases do you would want see well supported for that/those kernels? Every releases or only LTS? in priority LTS, because as we are working in improvement of video editing tools/documentation, only LTS has an enough large life to develop/improve... Please reply only if you want help. Thanks Ciao, Alessio Laurent, lprod.org, France -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-ec] Charlas para testeadores de Ubuntu
Hola: Aqui les dejo un enlace, para aquellos que deseen ayudar a testear las diferente .ISO de ubutu, conforme avanza su desarrollo: (1) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/PromotingLoCoTestingTeams (2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/LoCoTeam Es importante involucrarnos en este tipo de actividades comunitarias, al igual que las charlas ubunteras, proximas a realizarse, de la cual, enviare mas informacion mas adelante. Saludos Petrux-ec -- Ubuntu-ec mailing list Ubuntu-ec@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ec
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ou Ubuntu 10.10
Com certeza LTS... Até pq ainda nao foi lançada a versão estável do 10.10... só tem beta! E geralmente depois de lançado o Ubuntu precisa de cerca de 1 ou 2 meses para amadurecer legal. De inicial sempre aparecem alguns bugs (o que eu acho normal de acontecer nestes casos), e são logos corrigidos nos meses seguintes. Com o 10.04 vc já vai evitar isso, pois ele está num nível de amadurecimento excelente. []'s e boa sorte lá! Tiago Rocha Em 4 de outubro de 2010 10:02, Ivan Brasil Fuzzer i...@fuzzer.com.brescreveu: Para 20 máquinas o melhor é sempre utilizar LTS a não ser que você precise de algum recurso da 10.10 que não há a possibilidade de instalação na 10.04. Em 04-10-2010 09:46, Wilson Bom escreveu: Bom dia Pessoal, Boa semana a todos Vamos instalar o Ubuntu em 20 máquinas e a pergunta que não quer calar é a seguinte: Vamos direto para 10.10 ou ficamos com a LTS ? -- --- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu não reconhece automático me u celular como storage card ou pen drive
Prezado Gracco; Bom dia! Da uma olhada e verifica o que posso estar fazendo de errado adriana-lap...@ubuntu-notebook:~$ sudo modprobe usb usb8xxx usbhidusbnetusbtouchscreen usbatmusbip usbserial usbvideo usb_debug usbip_common_mod usbsevseg usbvision usbduxusblcdusb-storage usbduxfastusbledusbtest usb_gigaset usblp usbtmc adriana-lap...@ubuntu-notebook:~$ sudo modprobe usb Em 12 de abril de 2010 12:10, Gracco Guimarães gracco.cerque...@gmail.comescreveu: Você digitou errado, o nome do módulo é usb-storage não usb [espaço] storage. Quando você for digitar o sudo modprobe usb[nessa hora aperta TAB 2 vezes que ele vai listar todos os módulos USB]. Em 10 de abril de 2010 20:29, Darlan Dapper darlan.dap...@gmail.com escreveu: Amigo olha a menssagem que ele retornou adri...@adriana:~$ sudo modprobe usb storage [sudo] password for adriana: FATAL: Module usb not found. Em 10 de abril de 2010 19:41, Gracco Guimarães gracco.cerque...@gmail.comescreveu: Tenta colocar o celular no USB, e digitar no terminal sudo modprobe usb-storage, o meu acontecia isso com o mouse USB, parava de funcionar do nada, ai era só subindo o módulo. Abraço Em 10 de abril de 2010 16:20, Darlan Dapper darlan.dap...@gmail.com escreveu: Amigos; boa tarde! Desculpa a chateação, mas não sei a quem recorrer se não aos amigos da Lista Meu Ubuntu de uns mês para cá sem mais nem menos não reconhece os celulares que plugamos nele para usar como pen drive Modelos que ele antes reconhecia: - Qtek (meu filho) - Motorola (minha esposa) - Foston (meu) Agora a gente pluga e ele apenas mostra mensagem dizendo carregando ... Mais nada na tela do computador não aparece nada nem no nautilus Alguém sabe como fazer isso para que ele volte a ser o ubuntu bonzinho de antes ?? grande abraço a todos -- Darlan Dapper ° Mobile:+55 47 8405 1418 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Darlan Dapper ° Mobile:+55 47 8405 1418 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Darlan Dapper *° * Dual Mobile+55 47.8405.1418 +55 47.8406.5002 Phone/Fax: +55 47.3349.1489 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Problema na detecção de vga nvidia .
Olá, às vezes minha vga nao é reconhecida na inicializaçao. Aí toda vez que isso acontece (e agora ocorre com frequência) eu tenho que parar o X (/etc/init.d/gdm stop) e rodar startx pra vga voltar a funcionar. Isso ocorre tanto com o driver fornecido pelo ubuntu quanto com o driver da nvidia, testei os dois. Alguém tem alguma pista do que seja? Uso o ubuntu 10.04 64bits. Detalhe, no ubuntu 9.10 o problema nao ocorre. Grato, -- Luciano Marques Goiânia - GO -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com Samba
Opa te perguntei ontem sobre o modelo de sua rede ... ! vamos lah então!! nos linux veja em /etc/hosts vc deve ter algo como 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 nomeadamaquina seu.ip.fixo nomedamaquina.local nomedamaquina nos windows veja o nome da maquina na propriedades da uma lida nestes artigos! http://pitxyoki.blogspot.com/2008/01/resoluo-de-nomes-em-redes-com-clientes.html http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Samba-e-seu-processo-de-resolucao-de-nomes ** http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Guia_do_Linux/Avan%C3%A7ado/SAMBA/Resolu%C3%A7%C3%A3o_de_nomes_de_m%C3%A1quinas_no_samba ** O melhor! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Inkscape x formato cdr
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:20:23 -0300 nethell neth...@logbin.net wrote: On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:54:43 -0300 Vinicius Franco do Nascimento vinicius.nascime...@gmail.com wrote: Não sei se este programa irá converter para você os trabalhos. Mas o http://sk1project.org/ é um programa muito similar ao Corel Draw. Vinicius e demais, Instalei o sk1, fiz o teste de abertura e importação do cdr e, como supuz, ocorreu o mesmo que no inkscape. Aparentemente, embora com algumas bibliotecas extras, o sk1 é idêntico ao Inkscape e deve usar o mesmo filtro... nada feito. Mas já me contactaram e estão enviando os arquivos em formatos svg e gif (estranho), para mim está resolvida a questão. nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 Desculpem-me, na ânsia de retornar o resultado, não agradeci as informações a respeito. Mas creio que o assunto ficou bem definido na lista para futuras consultas... De minha parte, estou praticando engenharia reversa junto aos usuários do Corel e enviando a eles um CD do Ubuntu com as devidas instruções de instalação do Inkscape :) Como eles se interessaram... vamos ver se consigo pelo menos mais 3 Ubuntu users. Valeu, turma. -- nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ou Ubuntu 10.10
LTS tem mais tempo de suporte ... Acredito que no seu caso sera mais interessante pelo tempo de suporte. da uma lida http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ou Ubuntu 10.10
Bom dia Pessoal, Boa semana a todos Vamos instalar o Ubuntu em 20 máquinas e a pergunta que não quer calar é a seguinte: Vamos direto para 10.10 ou ficamos com a LTS ? -- Wilson Bom Claudia +-+ | | | Serprodata Informática Ltda.| | Av. Marcelino Pires, 1405 - Sala 216| | 79800-004 - Dourados - MS | | (067) 3421-3343 - 8407-4808 - 8407-8808 | | | | Messenger: serprod...@hotmail.com | | | | E-mail...: serprod...@hotmail.com | |wilson_...@hotmail.com | |wilson_...@yahoo.com.br | |wilson@gmail.com | | | +-+ +-+ | Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 - 2.6.32-24 #42 | | Linux Counter: 292553 | | Dataflex 3.2 Linux - Dataflex 3.2 MS-Dos| +-+ -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Inkscape x formato cdr
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:54:43 -0300 Vinicius Franco do Nascimento vinicius.nascime...@gmail.com wrote: Não sei se este programa irá converter para você os trabalhos. Mas o http://sk1project.org/ é um programa muito similar ao Corel Draw. Vinicius e demais, Instalei o sk1, fiz o teste de abertura e importação do cdr e, como supuz, ocorreu o mesmo que no inkscape. Aparentemente, embora com algumas bibliotecas extras, o sk1 é idêntico ao Inkscape e deve usar o mesmo filtro... nada feito. Mas já me contactaram e estão enviando os arquivos em formatos svg e gif (estranho), para mim está resolvida a questão. -- nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Inkscape x formato cdr
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:54:43 -0300 Vinicius Franco do Nascimento vinicius.nascime...@gmail.com wrote: Caro, Não sei se este programa irá converter para você os trabalhos. Mas o http://sk1project.org/ é um programa muito similar ao Corel Draw. Um abraço, Vinícius Franco do Nascimento Dei um lida rápida nas aplicações inclusas no projeto, ele utiliza o filtro CDR Explorer para conversão em conjunto com o sk1 e uniconvertor... não sei se o recurso seria o mesmo do Inkscape, mas acho que vale a pena a tentativa. Como eu mencionei, não uso essa aplicação na minha rotina e o caso que apresentei foi isolado e estou aguardando o retorno dos arquivos convertidos. Mas se tiver um tempo vago por aqui, vou testar os recursos do sk1 porém... estou achando que a funcionalidade do filtro será idêntica à do utilizado pelo Inkscape e vai depender da interpretação do binŕio cdr de acordo com a versão utilizada. -- nethell - Ubuntu user 24389 - Linux user 496632 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com Samba
tu temq ver como está a resolução de nomes do teu pc no arquivo de conf do samba deve ter algo como: name resolve order = lmhosts host bcast \o -- Marlon Valério ┌┐ T0ddy Stone Brains └┘ Em 3 de outubro de 2010 22:54, Fábio Magnoni fabiohmagn...@gmail.comescreveu: É apenas grupo mesmo, simples Em 3 de outubro de 2010 22:41, Allan Ricardo allana...@gmail.com escreveu: Como é sua rede? você se utentica por um dominio ou é apenas grupo ? ou seja, possui um servidor de nomes? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Fábio Réa Eng. de Computação - PUC-Campinas 2010 Diretor de Recursos Humanos - Associação Informatica Junior - PUC-Campinas www.infojunior.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux não tem Tela azul
Renato, se o programa não é compatível com o SO, o responsável pelo SO não tem culpa levanta uma VM e usa o SO que é compatível de acordo com as especificações técnicas do programa. ps: apesar de tudo eu gostei do *Ou melhor, sei: INÉRCIA.* Abraço galera Att -- Marlon Valério ┌┐ T0ddy Stone Brains └┘ Em 3 de outubro de 2010 19:33, Allan Ricardo allana...@gmail.com escreveu: É uma opnião pessoal, mas acjo o compiz e outros de personalização grafica, ou seja, que colocam animações, fonguinhos, cubinhos e tals, meio perfumaria e cosmeticos, sem necessidades. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Usando túnel SSH para conexões seg uras e anônimas.
Boa, deu certo! obrigado! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Usando túnel SSH para conexões se guras e anônimas.
Sim, pelo IP.. mas certifique-se de: a porta estar aberta no roteador,modem e pela própria compania q faz o relay do seu ip (ex: a Oi e a NetV bloqueiam a porta 80 e a 25 se não me engano) e por segurança, não deixe um usuário com permissão de root logar no ssh. Explicações aqui: www.google.com.br :) Allan, na verdade, como o Nilsonm falou, não precisa instalar programa nenhum basta usar no terminal o comando -D [porta] e no programa usar o proxy socks v5. e para não ficar o terminal aberto pode-se usar o comando nohup e o () e-comercial para o processo ir para o init e você poder fechar o terminal :) Ex: $ nohup ssh -qTfnNC -D 5900 usua...@host * * * * os outros parâmetros no comando são para eficácia, eficiência e segurança aprimorada da conexão, explicações: -q :- be very quite, we are acting only as a tunnel. -T :- Do not allocate a pseudo tty, we are only acting a tunnel. -f :- move the ssh process to background, as we don’t want to interact with this ssh session directly. -N :- Do not execute remote command. -n :- redirect standard input to /dev/null. -C :- compressão habilitada, para conexões lentas. Abraço cambada \o -- Marlon Valério ┌┐ T0ddy Stone Brains └┘ Em 1 de outubro de 2010 18:24, Fábio Magnoni fabiohmagn...@gmail.comescreveu: Certo, se eu quiser montar meu pc de casa como meu servidor, como eu seria por exemplo o nome que eu colocaria no @servidor? O IP do meu pc? Foi mal pela ignorância, por isso to perguntando hehehe []s Em 1 de outubro de 2010 18:05, Nilson Morais darkstrik...@gmail.com escreveu: No cliente: Dê um ssh -D u...@servidor e configure o proxy como socks localhost: Done. ;) 2010/10/1 Allan Ricardo allana...@gmail.com Bom galera ontem eu havia questionado aqui na lista commo se faz um proxy para de certa forma burlar restrições de acessos de redes (Como a do trabalho, hoteis etc ...), as respostas foram muitas e sairam melhor qeu encomenda paga via sedex 10! Alem de conseguir burlar bloqueios temos um tunel SSH ou seja segurança total nas informações transmitidas sem a preocupação de que alguém possa estar bisbilhotando sua navegação. Vou passar os passos aqui do que eu fiz o link do Tutorial que me foi útil é esse: o que será descrito aqui é um resumão 1- Você deve ter um servidor ao qual você possui acesso via SSH 2- Instale o Tinyproxy do lado do servidor e da maquina cliente 3- As configurações básicas do Tinyproxy ja estão de bom tamanho, mas é de extrema importância que você de uma olhada nelas para saber o que da para melhorar 4- A porta padrão do Tinyproxy é você pode trocar pela que você quiser ... 5- No navegador (Firefox) vá em preferencias Avançado Rede e coloque a configuração do proxy : localhost porta: 8000 6- Abra o terminal e digite ssh usua...@endereÇodoserverssh -NL 8000:localhost: 7- Vai ficar suspenso esse comando não o cancele ... enquanto ele estiver ativo você terá conexão com tunel criado Galera isso foi um resumão dos brabo tem muita coisa para melhorar, muita mesmo! estou preparando um artigo que postarei no vivaolinux.com.brposto aqui o link! Quem souber de melhorias posta ai! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Nilson Morais darkstrik...@gmail.com -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Fábio Réa Eng. de Computação - PUC-Campinas 2010 Diretor de Recursos Humanos - Associação Informatica Junior - PUC-Campinas www.infojunior.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS ou Ubuntu 10.10
Para 20 máquinas o melhor é sempre utilizar LTS a não ser que você precise de algum recurso da 10.10 que não há a possibilidade de instalação na 10.04. Em 04-10-2010 09:46, Wilson Bom escreveu: Bom dia Pessoal, Boa semana a todos Vamos instalar o Ubuntu em 20 máquinas e a pergunta que não quer calar é a seguinte: Vamos direto para 10.10 ou ficamos com a LTS ? -- --- Ivan Brasil Fuzzer Bacharel em Informática Celular: (54) 8411-0111 - (54) 9917-1798 GTalk: ivanbra...@gmail.com Jabber: ibra...@jabber.org http://www.ubuntero.com.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux não tem Tela azul
Cansei de PC. Estou comprando um Mac mini hoje. Adeus Windows. W vou usar o Ubuntu nele. Chega... Grato a todos. Quanto ao programa não ser compatível, amigo... O Encore é o mesmo. Rodava no XPe agora nem entra. O Sibelius rodava e agora não roda mais. Ora, o problema é dos programas? Faça-me o favor. Eu tenho um XP que roda do CD. Mas não vou fazer isso. Em 4 de outubro de 2010 09:06, Marlon yoda...@gmail.com escreveu: Renato, se o programa não é compatível com o SO, o responsável pelo SO não tem culpa levanta uma VM e usa o SO que é compatível de acordo com as especificações técnicas do programa. ps: apesar de tudo eu gostei do *Ou melhor, sei: INÉRCIA.* Abraço galera Att -- Marlon Valério ┌┐ T0ddy Stone Brains └┘ Em 3 de outubro de 2010 19:33, Allan Ricardo allana...@gmail.com escreveu: É uma opnião pessoal, mas acjo o compiz e outros de personalização grafica, ou seja, que colocam animações, fonguinhos, cubinhos e tals, meio perfumaria e cosmeticos, sem necessidades. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- *Obs : É MUITO importante que, ao encaminhar este e-mail, apague meu endereço de e-mail do CORPO do mesmo, e os de TODOS os presentes no mesmo! Assim como, ao adicionar mais de um destinatário, use sempre o Cco, cópia oculta, ou Bcc, em inglês, jamais o Para ou Cc. Verifique se ainda assim há endereços expostos no corpo do mesmo, antes de repassá-lo, seja solidário e apague-os **! Evitam-se SPAM e uso criminoso da conta.* []´s - *Renato Alvim* - Rio de Janeiro - RJ - *OMB* 32.375 *Sítio* : :www.renatoalvim.com *blog*:http://renatoalvim.blogs.sapo.pt *http*://musicapopular.ning.com - Budista - Nam-Myoho-Rengue-Kyo - -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Abrir arquivos localizados em partiç ões e sistemas diferentes?
Amigos Tenho instalados DualBoot (WinSeven + Ubuntu 10.04) em duas partições... tenho arquivos (avi, jpg, doc, pdf, etc) únicos, em ambos os sistemas e partições. Pergunta: Como posso acessar qualquer arquivo a partir do sistema que estiver aberto? Agradeço qualquer informação que será considerada. Abçs Edson -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] problema na inicialização - Ubun tu 10.04
Pessoal sou novo no linux (Ubuntu 10.04) e após tentar mudar o encoding do sistema não consigo mais iniciar normalmente. Na inicialização recebo a mensagem: Filesystem check or mout failed Para mudar o enconding segui os seguintes passos: 1) sudo cd /var/lib/locales/supported.d alterei o conteudo dos arquivos: local e pt para pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 ISO-8859-1 2) localedef -i pt_BR -c -f ISO-8859-1 pt_BR Por fim, mudei o /etc/default/locale , informando: LANG=pt_BR” LANGUAGE=pt_BR” Pessoal, como faço pra reverter pra situaçao anterior?. Por favor me deem uma luz, não quero instalar tudo de novo. abs ML -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Abrir arquivos localizados em partiç ões e sistemas diferentes?
Você tem varias formas de fazer isso vou citar uma: Usando uma partição comum para arquivos: por exemplo: part1 windows - ntfs part2 linux - ext4 part3 arquivos ext4 ou ntfs se a partição de arquivos estivar em ntfs o linux ja lê naturalmente (ou so instalar o ntfs-3g) se a partição estiver em ext4 você pdoe instalar um leitor de partições linux no windows ele ira reconhecer como se fosse uma partição nativa Na minha opinião é muito chato ter dois sistemas em dual boot instala um so e coloca maquina virtual, eu prefira instalar o ubuntu e colocar o virtualbox e nele o win se o seu probs for jogo o virtualbox integra tão bem com o kernel que da pra rodar jogo na maquina virtual do win como se fosse uma maquina fisica -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] problema na inicialização - Ubuntu 10.04
com certeza você fez um backup do arquivo que vc alterou neh!? entra com um live cd e restaura o arquivo original. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] problema na inicialização - Ubunt u 10.04
O que tem a montagem de filesystem a ver com a codificação de caracteres? Tem algo sinistro aí. Em 4 de outubro de 2010 13:47, Lamack Lamack mar.lam...@hotmail.comescreveu: Pessoal sou novo no linux (Ubuntu 10.04) e após tentar mudar o encoding do sistema não consigo mais iniciar normalmente. Na inicialização recebo a mensagem: Filesystem check or mout failed Para mudar o enconding segui os seguintes passos: 1) sudo cd /var/lib/locales/supported.d alterei o conteudo dos arquivos: local e pt para pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 ISO-8859-1 2) localedef -i pt_BR -c -f ISO-8859-1 pt_BR Por fim, mudei o /etc/default/locale , informando: LANG=pt_BR” LANGUAGE=pt_BR” Pessoal, como faço pra reverter pra situaçao anterior?. Por favor me deem uma luz, não quero instalar tudo de novo. abs ML -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] problema na inicialização - Ubuntu 10.04
Nada a ver mas se foi a única coisa que ele alterou ... desfazer o que fez que nós descobriremos! -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br