Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 98, Issue 15

2014-04-23 Thread martijn cielen
According to the information on this page:
https://retail.vasco.com/du/products/connected/digipass_870/digipass_870.aspxthere's
no separate driver needed for the Digipass 870 (which is the
Belfius one), so the problem must be in the FedICT middleware.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Duray Pol duray...@gmail.com wrote:

  Le 23/04/2014 11:01, Jan Bongaerts a écrit :

   Thanks Adrien,
  if you need help lobbying with Flemish politicians, or with Hendrik
 Bogaert, let us know.
  Cheers,
  Jan.


  On 23 April 2014 09:32, Adrien Rami ram...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

 Regarding card reader for Belfius: Belfius it's not the problem, but the
 Fedict. This new card reader it's a new technology command by Hendrik
 Bogaert (Federal Secretary for Modernisation of Public Services) to the
 Fedict. And, the secretary asked Belfius (owned by Belgium) to be the first
 to implement this new technology.

 I think we can ask Belfius and the Fedict to obligate to implement 
 linuxtechnology. I will discuss this subject to Mozilla Community too (We 
 will
 have problems with Tax On Web soon...).

 I know some politics who could get more information about this topic, if
 I get information I give it to you soon as possible.

 Rami Adrien


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1.  Belfius New cardreader (massimo21)
2. Re:  Belfius New cardreader (martijn cielen)
3. Re:  Belfius New cardreader (Jurgen Gaeremyn)
4. Re:  Belfius New cardreader (martijn cielen)
5. Re:  Belfius New cardreader (Marc Van Hoof)
6. Re:  Belfius New cardreader (martijn cielen)


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 Subject: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader
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 Hello everyone.
 Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
 I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there would
 more
 chances that they will support it in the future.
 If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
 belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.

 Grtz,
 Massimiliano.



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 Don't get your hopes up. Even OS X Mavericks isn't supported (at the
 moment).


 On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, massimo21
 lentini.massimili...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello everyone.
  Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
  I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there would
  more
  chances that they will support it in the future.
  If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
  belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.
 
  Grtz,
  Massimiliano.
 
 
 
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 Open a bank account at a different bank and transfer away ?100 every
 month - tell them you'll repeat that till the account is empty. At that
 point you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds are they will
 become more eager :)

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader

2014-04-22 Thread martijn cielen
Don't get your hopes up. Even OS X Mavericks isn't supported (at the
moment).


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:54 PM, massimo21
lentini.massimili...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello everyone.
 Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
 I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there would
 more
 chances that they will support it in the future.
 If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
 belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.

 Grtz,
 Massimiliano.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader

2014-04-22 Thread martijn cielen
Odds are 100% they'll laugh at you and charge you for moving your money. ;-)
http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/banking-the-game.gif


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 wrote:

 Open a bank account at a different bank and transfer away €100 every month
 - tell them you'll repeat that till the account is empty. At that point
 you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds are they will become more
 eager :)

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.


 On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:

 Hello everyone.
 Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
 I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there would
 more
 chances that they will support it in the future.
 If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
 belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.

 Grtz,
 Massimiliano.



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belfius New cardreader

2014-04-22 Thread martijn cielen
The problem with Argenta is it's a network of independent bankers. Try to
get some money from your account in an Argenta office that's not your
home office. It's also terrible for any other banking product.
Belfius is (at the moment) the best bank when it comes to technology and
mobile banking. The card reader not being supported is nothing but a minor
nuisance, since you don't even have to connect it to your computer in order
to use it for banking.


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Marc Van Hoof mmva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hoi, Go with your monny to Argenta. It's al for free and you can
 internetbanking via your browser.
 Good luck, Marc

 Op dinsdag 22 april 2014 heeft martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com het
 volgende geschreven:
  Odds are 100% they'll laugh at you and charge you for moving your money.
 ;-)
 https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/b0IRpg3SOPj5WREUG8eeF8h1kvAULi8TUz6C2Wk1VkJdc-PG_HVRW88pMm_NP-jNpD_K7jHE6XzRcr4dA0_mzjMlwo_XGz7dsvQZOw3Vg4YGcFuKxa1tWSQM9yc-=s0-d-e1-ft#http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/banking-the-game.gif
 

  http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/banking-the-game.gif
 
 
  On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn 
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:
 
  Open a bank account at a different bank and transfer away €100 every
 month - tell them you'll repeat that till the account is empty. At that
 point you'll completely move to the other bank. Odds are they will become
 more eager :)
 
  Grtz,
  Jurgen.
 
  On 22-04-14 16:54, massimo21 wrote:
 
  Hello everyone.
  Just got the new Belfius card reader. And Guess what. No Linux support!
  I Called them for that and they told me if I did a petition there
 would more
  chances that they will support it in the future.
  If we can organize a petition and send it beck to
  belfiusdirect...@belfius.be woud be nice.
 
  Grtz,
  Massimiliano.
 
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] test pc gevraagd

2014-04-02 Thread martijn cielen
Beste Guy,

doe jezelf een plezier, en stop met dit soort acties. Wie gaat er in
hemelsnaam een wildvreemde toegang geven tot zijn pc (en bij uitbreiding
zijn netwerk)? De Ubuntu-community zit hier imo al helemaal niet op te
wachten. Beschouw dit niet als een aanval, maar als een goede raad.

Met vriendelijke groet,

Martijn


2014-04-01 20:39 GMT+02:00 linux-service.be bvba g...@linux-service.be:

  Heeft U nog ergens een windows xp staan?

 Ik zou graag enkele testen willen uitvoeren:

 http://www.ubuntushop.be/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=13

 mail naar i...@linux-service.be

 let op: geen garantie op success!

 gd

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Fwd: ubuntu-be.org down

2013-09-18 Thread martijn cielen
The whois info states that Canonical is the owner.
Nameservers are NS1, NS2 and NS3.canonical.com.

dig says ubuntu-be.org is 86.65.39.1, which according to whois is owned by
FSF, and hosted in France.


Regards,

Martijn




On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Mike Morraye mikemorr...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI
 Once I get the image, I'll try to set up a (still have to check if
 possible to make permanent) mirror.
 Still have a problem figuring out who's in control of the domain name.
 Can someone point me in the right direction?

 Also, I will not create the mirror on an US accessible host!

 Cheers!

 - Mimor


 Begin forwarded message:

 *From: *Loic Dachary l...@dachary.org
 *Subject: **Re: ubuntu-be.org down*
 *Date: *17 Sep 2013 17:04:20 GMT+02:00
 *To: *Mike Morraye m...@morraye.be
 *Cc: *cont...@fsffrance.org

 Hi,

 I've had no news from ubuntu-be for a very long time, I guess that's why
 the machine was decomissionned. I'll provide you with a backup of the
 machine image later today.

 Cheers

 On 17/09/2013 16:53, Mike Morraye wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm not sure if this is the right address to direct this question to;
 but it seems that the ubuntu-be.org http://ubuntu-be.org website has
 gone down for an unknown reason.

 It points to the IP:* 86.65.39.1*
 Which has PTR: *cmd1.fsffrance.org http://cmd1.fsffrance.org*
 Now it seems like this host is down.
 I'm not aware if this is the host that should proxy the traffic, or the
 one actually hosting the website.
 From the whois info from this IP range, I came to this email address.

 Could you help me search me out, or provide me with the right contact
 information to the person able to solve this?
 (The ubuntu-be mailinglist had this issue posted, but without a reply from
 an admin) :(

 Kind regards in advance,

 Mike Morraye
 (+032) 0485 12 11 99


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Linux User Group in Antwerp

2013-08-21 Thread martijn cielen
Could you guys create a separate mailing list for the user group? Since it
has nothing to do with ubuntu-be everything after the initial rfi doesn't
belong here imho.

thx.


2013/8/21 Ward De Ridder ubuntu...@warddr.eu

 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 06:46:41AM +0100, fkdf wrote:
  Dan maar een tijdstip kiezen http://doodle.com/kbmn8u8mtxmpcaza

 Zou je 14 september uit de lijst kunnen halen? Dan is er iets anders
 gepland in het gebouw en kunnen we er dus niet in.
 Verder een goed idee om er een doodle van te maken.

 Ward

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file

2013-07-09 Thread martijn cielen
Look again at what I mailed on Jul 2, 2103. It's a few lines below this one
;-)

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@gmail.comwrote:

 do you have it?


 2013/7/8 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com

 I guess you don't need this anymore?


 On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:52 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.comwrote:

 Stuur mij de (link naar de) pdf eens even door. Zal eens zien of ik hem
 kan bewerkbaar maken.

 Grtz,

 M


 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Claudio Mammarella 
 claudio.mammare...@telenet.be wrote:

 Hey Wouter,

 Ik heb ook enkel de .pdf versie ervan.

 mvg,
 Claudio

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 *Verzonden: *Zondag 30 juni 2013 23:18:30
 *Onderwerp: *[Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file


 Hey guys,

 is there anyone who has the odt file of the dutch manual V1_0 that I
 made last year?
 I've searched every harddrive and usb drive, but I can't seem to find
 it anywhere.. I've got the pdf file, but not the odt.

 There was a teacher who asked me for it, but I can only find the
 previous version..

 Kind regards


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file

2013-07-08 Thread martijn cielen
I guess you don't need this anymore?

On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 12:52 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stuur mij de (link naar de) pdf eens even door. Zal eens zien of ik hem
 kan bewerkbaar maken.

 Grtz,

 M


 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Claudio Mammarella 
 claudio.mammare...@telenet.be wrote:

 Hey Wouter,

 Ik heb ook enkel de .pdf versie ervan.

 mvg,
 Claudio

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 *Aan: *Ubuntu Belgium ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 *Verzonden: *Zondag 30 juni 2013 23:18:30
 *Onderwerp: *[Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file


 Hey guys,

 is there anyone who has the odt file of the dutch manual V1_0 that I made
 last year?
 I've searched every harddrive and usb drive, but I can't seem to find it
 anywhere.. I've got the pdf file, but not the odt.

 There was a teacher who asked me for it, but I can only find the previous
 version..

 Kind regards


 Wouter Vandenneucker

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file

2013-07-02 Thread martijn cielen
Stuur mij de (link naar de) pdf eens even door. Zal eens zien of ik hem kan
bewerkbaar maken.

Grtz,

M

On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Claudio Mammarella 
claudio.mammare...@telenet.be wrote:

 Hey Wouter,

 Ik heb ook enkel de .pdf versie ervan.

 mvg,
 Claudio

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 *Aan: *Ubuntu Belgium ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 *Verzonden: *Zondag 30 juni 2013 23:18:30
 *Onderwerp: *[Ubuntu-be] Dutch Ubuntu Manual ODT file


 Hey guys,

 is there anyone who has the odt file of the dutch manual V1_0 that I made
 last year?
 I've searched every harddrive and usb drive, but I can't seem to find it
 anywhere.. I've got the pdf file, but not the odt.

 There was a teacher who asked me for it, but I can only find the previous
 version..

 Kind regards


 Wouter Vandenneucker

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] CPR on the website

2013-03-20 Thread martijn cielen
I don't agree on the pride part. People who know me, know I'll never
use the word Belgian with pride. I'm Flemish and love the Walloon,
but I strongly oppose to the monster Belgium. Well, so far with
politics, and let's not start a (civil) war ;-) That being made clear,
I don't think anything is wrong with a bit of chauvinism. If not even
Belgian loco uses Drupal, why should people in other countries use it?
(just asking)

I agree that doing something is better than doing nothing, and in
saying so, I applaude Wouter for sticking out his neck. On the other
hand, I know Wouter has a strong feeling Drupal is bad (I read his
tweets), and I strongly disagree.

Time is a problem for all of us, so I guess starting something from
scratch will take longer than updating (and maybe even upgrading) an
existing Drupal site, even though because of an already heavily
overloaded professional life (who ever said freelancers gain big
money?), I'll have too little time left to pick up unpaid work (hey,
even my slices of bread and water don't come fro free). I am hower
prepared to assist where possible.

To avoid further noise on the ML, however, I propose Wouter contacts
me to arrange for a 1/2-day introductory course in Drupal. If he still
only feels like vomiting whenever he hears Drupal after that, I'll
keep my mouth shut ;-)

M


On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Martijn,
 I think it would be lovely if you have some time to introduce the members of
 Wouter's team to Drupal. I'm sure they would be interested.
 However, overall it should be Wouter's baby.
 Up to you to convince him staying with Drupal is better than starting from
 scratch in html5.

 As for your argument that the Belgian LoCo should preferably stick to
 Belgian products, I only follow that thought half-heartedly. Such argument
 is based on pride, and pride is often more counterproductive and costly than
 what is achieved by it. A bit of pride is commendable, but it should not
 interfere with the end result.

 So, to sum up, Martijn, thanks for getting involved, and please do work with
 Wouter direct about incorporating Drupal into our site. If you feel that
 strongly about Drupal, I'm sure you won't struggle to convince Wouter and
 his team to embrace it too.

 But please don't let pride interfere with the end result: a proper web site
 that looks and feels good for the average user, that can easily be
 maintained by any successors in our community.

 Regards,
 Jan.


 On 20 March 2013 12:51, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:

 On 20-03-13 11:58, martijn cielen wrote:

 Contrary to what Wouter wants us all to believe [ ;-) ], Drupal really
 isn't that hard. Au contraire. It's one of the easiest systems (being
 it an app, a cms or whatever) I've ever used in my 12 years as an ICT
 professional.
 I bet anyone in this mailing list can get the basics set up using
 Drupal in 1 day. The speciallekes will obviously take a little longer,
 but for anyone with decent php knowledge, this will be equally
 hard/easy to do in Drupal as in raw php as in any other framework.

 Maybe I should organise an introductory course to Drupal...

 M

 Wow... that's great! We found ourselves a volunteer! :)

 We've been asking for volunteers to maintain the website half a dozen of
 times on the mailinglist in the last few years (though admittedly, I guess
 we dindn't repeat that question the last half year). Nobody stood up and
 offered his/her help on it.

 If you want to work on the system in Drupal... by all means. I think we
 would all be happy if you did.
 If you want to teach Wouter how to do it... then Wouter has to agree this
 is okay for him.

 It's way to easy to say what the ideal path is... and we all agree it
 would be best to have a Drupal-guru working on the website. But we didn't
 find him up to present. Now don't go shooting Wouter for sticking out his
 neck and actually doing *something* (which is better than doing nothing the
 perfect way)

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Silent computers' shop staat er klaar voor!-- Re: ubuntu-be Digest, Vol 82, Issue 16

2012-12-21 Thread martijn cielen
Hold your horses Wouter. You clearly completely misunderstood my message. I
do give a *** about the work any and all of you do. I thought it was
obvious I was talking about spammers. To clarify again: when someone spams
the ML, I don't give a *** about what they do for the community. It's spam,
and spam should be fought by any means.

On Friday, 21 December 2012, Wouter Vandenneucker wrote:

 I personally felt offended by the sheer lack of Ubuntu/humanity in the
 responses that followed.
 If one states that he didn't *give a *** what anyone (corporate or
 individual) has done for anyone/anything* than that means he doesn't
 care about any of the work I and others have put in to it. I find that
 offensive and take it as a slap in the face.

 It shows of a lack of empathy, dignity and respect to others who might or
 might not put more time and effort to things than that person him- or
 herself. Although I would have taken it this way regardless of whom it came
 from, I feel even more offended because it came from somebody who signed
 the code of conduct! A code that starts with following words:

 *Ubuntu is about showing humanity to one another: the word itself
 captures the spirit of being human.*
 A code that explicitly states that at all times you should be
 respectful. One that states that disagreement is no excuse for poor
 manners. One that states that you have to take responsibility for your
 words and actions.

 I find myself today, struggling to keep believing that any work done here
 is appreciated or even considered to be of any value.

 And with this rant and words that might mean more to some than others I
 leave you

 Have a nice day all, who knows it might be our last.

 Regards


 Wouter Vandenneucker

 2012/12/21 Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be

  Well,

 I didn't consider the initial answer as spam - I did take it as a rather
 weak answer in the sense that there's no further help than only offering to
 make a sale.

 I was hoping to get feedback in the sense of: I'm using *blabla* on my
 computer and *bla* on my Android device and it all works fine doing these
 steps: *blablabla* Or even: Buy this device: *SomeDevice*, it contains
 drivers for ubuntu In extremis it could be: let me google this for you:
 *keyword 1* *keyword 2* ...

 Obviously, if the solution you're offering is something you developed
 in-house, and thus only offer to your customers... that's also an option,
 and then the shop is he place to be.

 Well... but as disappointing as the answer was... the answer spammer
 didn't help me any further either.

 Grtz,
 Jurgen


 On 21-12-12 13:25, tom verlinden wrote:

   Is there a code of conduct, guidelines, on how to approach things
 like this?
  What i'm trying to say is, what if you know a good link/shop/space that
 can help you?
  What would be the appropriate action to take?

  Needless to say i too disagree with spamming any list, but it's something
 i was asking myself just yet...


  2012/12/21 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com

 Jan,

  frankly I don't give a *** what anyone (corporate or individual) has
 done for anyone/anything when they abuse a mailing list to spam.
 When I send messages to this list, I use my personal address, and not my
 commercial one. Ideally, others should do the same.

  Martijn

 On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.comwrote:

 Easy now!
 Silent Computers has done more for ubuntu-be than most.


 2012/12/20 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com

 spammer

 2012/12/20 Lesia Valèri lesiaval...@gmail.com



 Hi,
 daar is de Silent computers' shop voor!
 Stuurt die dame naar ons toe, wij zullen wel beste oplossing voor vi


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-12 Thread martijn cielen
Obviously the selling price doesn't say a thing about the price Asus pays
to MS.
I tried getting my money back for an EEE 900, and they literally told me
we pay MS € 7 for Windows, so that's what we can refund.
Truth or lie, that remains unknown ofcourse.

Martijn

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Y P yellowpeng...@edpnet.be wrote:

 Hi Martijn,

 I'm not sure you're right, but things can change: a few years ago I saw the
 EEE 900 or 901 @ MediaM. for €390 (Win) while the same device was
 available with Xandros for €299;
 so this is (/was) more than only €7.
 The problem with the 1225C is that it doesn't seem to be available
 anyway, not with Win nor with Ubuntu.

 Y P


 On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 12:53:18AM +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
  Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
  Been there, haven't done it.
  Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
  Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.
 
  On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P yellowpeng...@belcenter.com
 wrote:
 
   I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
   media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
   Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
   anyway
   to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!
  
   Y P
  
   On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
   money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden
 to do
   tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
   computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He
 bought
   the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he
 would not
   have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that
 you
   are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation
 they
   give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
   windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to
 sale
   Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they
 sell
   more and computers with open dos.
   
Willem
   
   
   

 From: Y P yellowpeng...@belcenter.com
To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook
 (EEE
   1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
   
Hello Dear Ubunteros!
   
some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE
 1225C,
since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
   
It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
   
maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
   
I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
   
  
 http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
   
when found specifications here:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
   
...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in
 July:
ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
   
  
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
   
What about Belgium ?
   
Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix
 (@Ostend);
have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
definitely busy!!!
   
Any useful tips welcomed!
We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in
 Belgium.
   
Thanx !
   
GreetinX,
   
Y)ellow P)enguin
   
   
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Facebook

2012-09-10 Thread martijn cielen
wouter: http://taaladvies.net/taal/advies/vraag/1070/

2012/9/10 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com

 Hey Alain,

 Die groep is geen initiatief van Ubuntu-be. We hebben echter wel een
 andere groep op Facebook, en die noemt simpelweg Ubuntu-be:
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/87950312093/

 Vriendelijke groeten


 Wouter Vandenneucker

 2012/9/10 Alain Baudrez a.baud...@gmail.com

 Is de Belgium Ubuntu Linux Users Groep op Facebook een initiatief van
 ubuntu-be.org?

 https://www.facebook.com/groups/350660908288240/


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04

2012-09-06 Thread martijn cielen
Forget the WIndows-tax for EEE-pc's. If you want a refund you'll get € 7.
Been there, haven't done it.
Manufacturers pay almost nothing for netbook-licenses, so just pay the 7
Euro and keep the license for when you sell the toy.

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Y P yellowpeng...@belcenter.com wrote:

 I have no any plans to litigate with a local reseller or any
 media.market-alike mega / giga / hyper store!
 Just want to buy an Ubuntu-ready or a system-free netbook. Don't want
 anyway
 to pay for a Win 7 that I have to remove!

 Y P

 On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 07:11:16AM -0700, Willem Hulscher wrote:
  Well, in France there was a lawsuit were somebody has won to get his
 money back from a windows computer. The case was that it is forbidden to do
 tying sales. He did not want to have windows, but there were not other
 computers (only Mac ofcourse, but he did not want that either). He bought
 the machine, with windows. He complaints with the company that he would not
 have the licence of windows. He made it a case. First they judge that you
 are not obliged to buy a computer with windows. But that in Cassation they
 give him right. It is tying. Than he could have 100 euro back for the
 windows. So I think that because of that jurisprudence they started to sale
 Linux on computers. Or maybe even with only open dos. In Germany they sell
 more and computers with open dos.
 
  Willem
 
 
 
  
   From: Y P yellowpeng...@belcenter.com
  To: Ubuntu-BE MailingList ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
  Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 11:04 PM
  Subject: [Ubuntu-be] where to find this in Belgium ? Asus netbook (EEE
 1225C) with Ubuntu 12.04
 
  Hello Dear Ubunteros!
 
  some friend of mine (maybe me too) is looking after the Asus EEE 1225C,
  since that machine will come with Ubuntu 12.04 + for a nice price!
 
  It seems to be available in France (Boulanger, Auchan, RueDuCommerce,
  Izideal) but I'm not able to find it -until now- in Belgium:
 
  maybe some of you does, and knows more about this ready-to-go
  new/powerfull/quite cheap Ubuntu netbook ?
 
  I first read some info at Forum.Ubuntu-NL.org:
 
 http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/algemeen-42/asus-lanceert-nieuw-netbookje-met-ubuntu-12-04/25/
 
  when found specifications here:
  http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_PC/Eee_PC_1225C/
 
  ...but in some countries it seems to have already been released in July:
  ASUS Quietly Launch New Ubuntu 12.04 Netbook | OMG! Ubuntu!
 
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/asus-quietly-launch-new-ubuntu-netbook
 
  What about Belgium ?
 
  Currently checked stores with no avail-info:
  Media-markt, Carref0ur, Ph0t0hal, Pix-mania, Gobin-Electronix (@Ostend);
  have also tried 333 x to call FNAC BE but their telnr. is fake and
  definitely busy!!!
 
  Any useful tips welcomed!
  We're probably 2 persons interested in this EEE if available in Belgium.
 
  Thanx !
 
  GreetinX,
 
  Y)ellow P)enguin
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] So studying got really boring..

2012-09-04 Thread martijn cielen
why not use the (fantastic btw) ubuntu font?

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Okay, thx for the tips..

 I made the logo a little bigger, the text a little smaller, changed the
 Aspect Ratio to 16/9 (sorry ultra-wide screen people, but this is a lot
 more convenient) ..

 Tom, did you have any font in mind? I'm using Helvetica ultra bold at the
 moment, but I can try anything.. I was first thinking of using myriad, but
 that's a bit to Apple-like..

 V2 is here: http://vdnkr.be/royal_V2.png
 When I'm done I'll upload the xcf gimp file as well..

 Grts


 Wouter

 2012/9/4 tom verlinden tom.verlin...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 i'm usually a reader of the mails flowing by, rather than contributing
 (as i had nothing to contribute). Untill now...
 The text might be a bit smaller and the logo bigger, but i very much like
 the background. (maybe try a different font? Just for experimentation...)

 The background, afaik, you should keep it that way.

 Keep up the good work! (but don't forget to study!)

 2012/9/4 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com

 Hey all,

 as the subject of this email already states: i got bored during
 stuDYING.. So I made a new wallpaper..
 it's just a first version and for some unexplained reason it has a
 really strange aspect ratio..

 Now I was wondering, should the text go a little smaller and the
 background a bit darker maybe?

 http://vdnkr.be/royal_v1.png

 Grts


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Linux Open Administration Days 212 in Antwerpen

2012-02-13 Thread martijn cielen
Not from Antwerp, but as a co-founder of LOAD (I'm not active in it anymore
due to time constraints though), I can say LOAD is not really a good place
for UbuntuBE.

Don't get me wrong. As this is the third edition already, LOAD can in time
become the fosdem of administrators. That being said, since it's really
geared towards sys admininstration, it's not really a place for a Loco as
such.

Just my € 0,02

Martijn

2012/2/14 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com

 might be a great chance, what do the people from around antwerp think?

 Grts


 Wouter

 Op 6 februari 2012 23:53 schreef Patrick Coeman patr...@coeman.net het
 volgende:

 Beste,

 Op Fosdem zag ik een affiche hangen voor volgend event: Loadays 2011 in
 Antwerpen op 31/3 en 1/4 ek. ( http://www.loadays.eu). Misschien iets
 voor Ubuntu be?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Windows Tax

2011-12-27 Thread martijn cielen
I would not recommend trying to get an ASUS refund from ACER ;-)

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 2:02 PM, materne benoit bmate...@gmail.com wrote:
  For Asus Machine,  Belgium, seen

 France. Acer Computer France
  66, Rue des Vanesses,
  Paris Nord 2-BP 40005,
 95911 Roissy Charles de Gaulle

 And seen Advantage service @ Poitiers , it's no more @ Siracuse, but
 Poitiers, European  Advantage (Call) center..

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Windows Tax

2011-12-27 Thread martijn cielen
When I wanted to get my Windows Tax back from Asus, I had to fill out
a form, and send it as a signed letter, only to get a €7 refund. So I
decided to keep the windows license in case I ever needed it. It came
in handy when I sold my netbook.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Robert Persson halfbe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Does anyone here know how to get a refund on the Windows Tax in Belgium?

 From what I've read, in most countries, people looking for a refund go to
 the manufacturer, but this can often be a very frustrating process. In
 England and Wales however the Sale of Goods Act 2002 allows you to ask the
 retailer for a replacement or refund for specific defective items in a batch
 of goods, an EULA you didn't agree to at purchase being just such a
 defective item. I've read that people have got refunds from retailers like
 amazon.co.uk under this legislation without any fuss.

 So what would be the best course of action in Belgium? The software in
 question would be Windows 7 Starter, which probably isn't MS's most
 expensive offering. Would I actually get enough money back to make it worth
 all the hard work?

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[Ubuntu-be] server

2011-11-17 Thread martijn cielen
Dear all,

a while ago I sent a message to let you know I have a server to give.
Nothing happened after that. If no-one indicates he wants the server
by tomorrow evening, it's going in the trash.

kindest regards,

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] server

2011-11-17 Thread martijn cielen
I'm not going to Dipro (don't have time for anything but renovation
works), so I thought I'd donate it to ubuntu-be.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not take it to Dipro?
 I'm sure some-one there would be interested.
 You might still score a few bob, and it's better than throwing it in the
 trash.

 On 17 November 2011 09:36, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 a while ago I sent a message to let you know I have a server to give.
 Nothing happened after that. If no-one indicates he wants the server
 by tomorrow evening, it's going in the trash.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] server

2011-11-17 Thread martijn cielen
specs:

from 11/9/2004

2x Xeon 2.8GHZ/1MB, 800FSB
1x Perc 4DI embedded RAID
1x 8X DVD-ROM drive IDE
Redundant power supply

without memory
without disks (UltraScsi 320)

Selling price would be +/- € 100 (negotiable) or can be exchanged for
something interesting (open for proposals)

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:47 AM, tom verlinden tom.verlin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hold that thought.
 Seems i missed something here.
 Can you give me the specs and location pls?
 If i like it, i'm there.

 Mvg, Tom

 Op 17 nov. 2011 09:37 schreef martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com het
 volgende:

 Dear all,

 a while ago I sent a message to let you know I have a server to give.
 Nothing happened after that. If no-one indicates he wants the server
 by tomorrow evening, it's going in the trash.

 kindest regards,

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Linux lesgever gezocht te Brugge

2011-07-06 Thread martijn cielen
2011/7/7 Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be:
 Op woensdag 6 juli 2011 schreef Pieter Baele (pieter.ba...@gmail.com)
 het volgende:
 Beste Jan,

 Het gaat hier over een lessenreeks van 12 lessen.
 Belangrijk voor Syntra is steeds dat de lesgever natuurlijk de nodige
 competenties heeft (Syntra = ISO gecertificeerd),
 in ons geval Linux natuurlijk :-)

 Gaat het over deze certificatie?
 http://www.lpi.org/eng/certification

== ISO certificering != LPI certificering

 Moet je ook geen d cursus volgen om te mogen lesgeven?
 http://www.avondschool.be/opleidingen/specifiekelerarenopleiding.htm

== Neen. Heb ook al verschillende keren bij Syntra lesgegeven, en heb
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[Ubuntu-be] Meeting tonight

2011-06-13 Thread martijn cielen
Gents,

Due to unforeseen circumstances, I'll have to postpone the lociso
installment meeting until tomorrow.

Sorry for the late message.

Sent from my wannabe-Android phone.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] LocISO installment meeting

2011-06-08 Thread martijn cielen
You're absolutely right. Are these on the wiki yet?

Sent from my iPhone

On 8-jun.-2011, at 17:54, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:

 Hey Martijn,

 cool you're taking up the whip!
 As a matter of not inventing the wheel over and over... have a look at
 the pointers that were already set out... (no need in wasting time
 discussing those issues, imo)

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

 On 06/08/2011 02:43 PM, martijn cielen wrote:
 Gents, Ladies and aliens,

 I'd like to invite you all to the LocISO installment meeting on Monday
 June 13th at 20:00 on irc.
 Goal of this installment meeting is to set the initial requirements
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Multiboot usb-drive

2011-06-08 Thread martijn cielen
For me, this tool f€@!d up my grub.

Sent from my iPhone

On 8-jun.-2011, at 17:52, Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:

 Hi Claudio,

 I actually tried it, and i didn't work on my PC... hangs on launch.
 Maybe I'll try it again, now that I have a fresh install.

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

 On 06/08/2011 02:36 PM, Claudio Mammarella wrote:
 Jurgen,

 I use a program called Multiboot.
 My 8gb usb-stick with ubuntu 11.04, ubuntu 10.04, gparted, hiren's bootcd, 
 Xubuntu 10.04, clonezilla,...
 It's very easy to install (download a script from the link and run it) and 
 you can add different iso to your usb-drive by dragdrop.
 Try it.

 How to :
 http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/

 mvg,
 Claudio

 Message: 1
 Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:27:59 +0200
 From: Jurgen Gaeremyn jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd
 Message-ID: 4dee437f.30...@pandora.be
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Okay... so here's another link - on how to create a multiboot USB
 stick... (if not to be used on our own disc... then maybe interesting
 for the people who want to make their own multiboot USB stick)

 Here's what I'm going to put on a stick:
 - Ubuntu 64/32
 - (Ubuntu Localized version asap)
 - Lubuntu 32
 - Edubuntu 32/64
 - Ubuntu Studio 64
 - Ubuntu Rescue Remix 32
 - Backtrack 64

 This way, I've got my 8 GIG stick pretty nicely populated :)

 This is the link:
 http://www.hcc-vl.be/d001/forum/multiboot-grub-2-usb

 (basically, it's an advantage of Grub 2)

 Just one more thing I'd look into: maybe I can get Burg to work on it
 too, to have a nicer bootloader.

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.




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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-06-06 Thread martijn cielen
Bram (and others),

I really appreciate your effort, but since it seems I'm taking the
lead in the custom ISO project, I'd propose waiting for the
installment meeting, in order to avoid multiple people working on the
same thing, and other things not being worked on.
I'll organize this meeting later this week.
If it has been agreed that I'm not taking the lead, please ignore this mail.

Now, for customization, I can tell you from personal experience it
isn't as straightforward as it looks. Here's the steps I've taken
before (from the top of my head, so might not be 100% accurate):

1. mount the iso in eg /mnt/iso
2. mount the squashfs in eg /mnt/squashfs
3. change the squashfs
4. recompile the suqashfs
5. change the iso using an iso tool
6. test

I used this setup to created a customized installation cd for my
client, using RedHat. The approach should be similar for Ubuntu.

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Bram Gadeyne gadeyneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Using UCK does not provide a lot of possibilities.

 I've received this dvd by mail today. It's size is 3.4 GB so it's a normal
 DVD.

 I think they created it using casper and some other things:
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization

 Since you have to include grub I think it should be possible to add
 different bootable distro's. On the dvd there is a directory for every
 distro containing vmlinuz, initrd.lz and filesystem.squashfs. The last one
 contains the contents of the distro.

 Anyone who would like to join forces and try to create such a cd/dvd. First
 with a single customized distro and then maybe different ones?
 http://www.doodle.com/vcc5h3uf6fgpwy2n

 With kind regards
 Bram

 2011/6/2 Noel Rogghe nero.ubu...@gmail.com

 On 02/06/11 19:10, Steven Leeman wrote:

 Its a dual sided dvd i read which would mean 9gigabyte
 But a screenshot shows it has a covere so xxthat would mean dual layer
 technically
 If we want to reproduce we need a 16gb stick?

 If it's the same Ubuntu Sixpack that comes with the Ubuntu Users Magazine
 it is definitely not a dual layer. One site is 32-bit, the flip site is
 64-bit. The DVD is not printed.
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-06-06 Thread martijn cielen
No problem!!!

Like I said, I appreciate the effort, but I want to agree on some
guidelines/directions first ;-)

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Bram Gadeyne gadeyneb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Oh I'm sorry,

 In my enthusiasm I didn't fully read the whole discussion.

 I'll await the installment meeting.

 kind regards
 Bram

 2011/6/6 martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com

 Bram (and others),

 I really appreciate your effort, but since it seems I'm taking the
 lead in the custom ISO project, I'd propose waiting for the
 installment meeting, in order to avoid multiple people working on the
 same thing, and other things not being worked on.
 I'll organize this meeting later this week.
 If it has been agreed that I'm not taking the lead, please ignore this
 mail.

 Now, for customization, I can tell you from personal experience it
 isn't as straightforward as it looks. Here's the steps I've taken
 before (from the top of my head, so might not be 100% accurate):

 1. mount the iso in eg /mnt/iso
 2. mount the squashfs in eg /mnt/squashfs
 3. change the squashfs
 4. recompile the suqashfs
 5. change the iso using an iso tool
 6. test

 I used this setup to created a customized installation cd for my
 client, using RedHat. The approach should be similar for Ubuntu.

 kindest regards,

 Martijn

 On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Bram Gadeyne gadeyneb...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Using UCK does not provide a lot of possibilities.
 
  I've received this dvd by mail today. It's size is 3.4 GB so it's a
  normal
  DVD.
 
  I think they created it using casper and some other things:
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
 
  Since you have to include grub I think it should be possible to add
  different bootable distro's. On the dvd there is a directory for every
  distro containing vmlinuz, initrd.lz and filesystem.squashfs. The last
  one
  contains the contents of the distro.
 
  Anyone who would like to join forces and try to create such a cd/dvd.
  First
  with a single customized distro and then maybe different ones?
  http://www.doodle.com/vcc5h3uf6fgpwy2n
 
  With kind regards
  Bram
 
  2011/6/2 Noel Rogghe nero.ubu...@gmail.com
 
  On 02/06/11 19:10, Steven Leeman wrote:
 
  Its a dual sided dvd i read which would mean 9gigabyte
  But a screenshot shows it has a covere so xxthat would mean dual layer
  technically
  If we want to reproduce we need a 16gb stick?
 
  If it's the same Ubuntu Sixpack that comes with the Ubuntu Users
  Magazine
  it is definitely not a dual layer. One site is 32-bit, the flip site is
  64-bit. The DVD is not printed.
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-04 Thread martijn cielen
In that case... Nay.

Maybe one day, but for the time being the iPhone is far superior to any
Android phone when comparing total user experience. Not that I have anything
against Android, but I don't see it becoming as accepted and easy to
integrate as the iPhone just yet.

Sent from my iPhone

On 4-jun.-2011, at 10:02, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:

From wikipedia:
In 2006, scientists researching the ancestry of birds turned on a chicken
recessive gene, talpid2, and found that the embryo jaws initiated formation
of teeth, like those found in ancient bird fossils. John Fallon, the
overseer of the project, stated that chickens have ...retained the ability
to make teeth, under certain conditions..

Sorry for you, Martijn. Off to the shops it is.
 On Jun 3, 2011 11:54 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Me getting an Android phone? Like we say in our dialect: when the chickens
 grow teeth :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:49, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 in dutch: 'hopla'. Thats what I call putting the whip on :p
 You're doing great already..

 now the only thing you should do is lose that iPhone and use an android
 phone :p

 grts

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 From: mcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:37:01 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
 If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an
installment
 meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounds great! good to have you on board.
 We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
 So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
 stall? :p

 grts


 wouter

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 From: mcie...@gmail.commcie...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.comubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European
Parliament
 REPORT - 02/06/11

 As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
 renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
 contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to become the project
 manager for the Belgian ISO.

 Kindest regards,

 Martijn

 Sent from my iPhone

 On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker  wouterv...@hotmail.com
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 *IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June
2011*
 Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (
 http://epfsug.euepfsug.euEuropean Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr
 leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra,
 LarsB, warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
 (note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


 Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
 projects
 Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


 *= ISO =*
 To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
 to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
 easier for Belgian Users.
 We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
 updated..)
 We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
 dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
 The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
 decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

 *PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
 Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
 endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need
to
 be taken in account.
 A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
 11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

 Values:

 - We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
 minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
 belgian citizens.
 - No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and
ubuntu
 values)
 - Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
 - Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with
video's
 we make)
 - Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
 center, we should make people use it!
 - Keeping things simple
 - No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of
user.


 Needed:

 - Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
 - Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
 language English is suggested)
 - Based on Ubuntu 11.04
 - Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
 - AZERTY by default
 - USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
 live mode.
 - Default

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread martijn cielen
As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project
manager for the Belgian ISO.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

*IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 2011*
Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB,
warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
projects
Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


*= ISO =*
To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
easier for Belgian Users.
We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
updated..)
We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need to
be taken in account.
A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

Values:

- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
belgian citizens.
- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu
values)
- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's
we make)
- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
center, we should make people use it!
- Keeping things simple
- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
- Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
language English is suggested)
- Based on Ubuntu 11.04
- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
- AZERTY by default
- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
live mode.
- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
- E-ID program and driver


Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
- Extra DE's
- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
- 'professional' software
- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and stable
enough for us to integrade.)
- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time
the ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:

- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr
uses only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):

- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know
their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow
Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be
handled here so people find their way to them..
- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop
Wallpapers is adviced.
Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the Desktop
Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one,
or a rescue version..)



*= USB =*
The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a way
to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, selling USBs
instead of giving away CDs sets Ubuntu-be on its way to the future.
As with the ISO team, we need people who believe in this project and put
their wings underneath it to make it fly.
A leader for this project has the same job as the ISO leader: make sure the
project keeps going and doesn't stall or bleed to dead.
Participants to this projects and candidate leaders: step forward.
A WIKIpage should be created for this.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
These guidelines are just a beginning, the USB team should try to endorse
them and add more detail to them. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu
need to be taken in to account.
We should try to finish the USB 

Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament REPORT - 02/06/11

2011-06-03 Thread martijn cielen
Whiplash is my middle name ;-)
If no-one has objections to me taking the lead, I'll organize an installment
meeting for the ISO team somewhere next week.

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:34, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Sounds great! good to have you on board.
We aren't asking that you give up your work or such.. :p
So we can count on you to give people a whiplash if things are starting to
stall? :p

grts


wouter

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From: mcie...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:26:17 +0200
To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC Meeting about ISO, USB and European Parliament
REPORT - 02/06/11

As I don't have much time to do hands on stuff at the moment (full
renovation, fulltime work and 1 year young doughter), but I want to
contribute something to Ubuntu-be, I'm offering to  become the project
manager for the Belgian ISO.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 3-jun.-2011, at 21:21, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
wrote:

*IRC ISO/USB Project Meeting Report Ubuntu-be - Thursday 2nd of June 2011*
Present at the meeting (in random order): ehj (epfsug.eu European
Parliament), YoBoY (ubuntu-fr leadership), Skynetbbs, DarkEra, LarsB,
warddr, jurgentje, JanC, StefandeVries, pvr, woutervddn
(note: this isn't a regular weekly meeting)


Agenda topics: ISO Project, USB Project, General things concerning these
projects
Extra topic on the agenda: Ubuntu fest at the European Parliament


*= ISO =*
To make stuff easier for belgian users and to gain popularity we are going
to make our own ISO. An Ubuntu respin with a few changes that make life
easier for Belgian Users.
We discussed this project before, more info about that can be found at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/LocalizedCD (these pages should be
updated..)
We need some people who take the lead in this project so it won't bleed to
dead. Candidates to lead this project to victory, please step forward!
The leader of the project needs to make sure stuff doesn't stall. Small
decisions can be made entirly by the ISO team, that way we speed stuff up.

*PROJECT GUIDELINES:*
Note that these guidelines are a beginning, the ISO team should try to
endorse these guidelines. The general ideas and guidelines of Ubuntu need to
be taken in account.
A target date should be set in order to keep things moving. (having the
11.04 ISO before 11.10 comes out is crusial.)

Values:

- We keep the official program choise of Canonical/Ubuntu but include a
minor amount of programs and drivers that are on general interest for
belgian citizens.
- No change to the Restricted Extra options. (due to legal issues and ubuntu
values)
- Support to the Ubuntu guidelines
- Endorse users to get to know their system (we can teach them with video's
we make)
- Canonical has put a serious amount of time in developing the software
center, we should make people use it!
- Keeping things simple
- No 'special' programs or programs only usefull to a specific type of user.


Needed:

- Both a 32bit and a 64bit version
- Fully supported languages by default: en, de, nl, fr (as default boot
language English is suggested)
- Based on Ubuntu 11.04
- Only Gnome classic and Unity interface
- AZERTY by default
- USB key should have an install icon on teh desktop once it is booted in
live mode.
- Default homepage in firefox should be Ubuntu-be.org.
- E-ID program and driver


Unwanted:

- PPA's (at least for now as a PPA gives us responibility for security
breaches) [exception for ppa's without security issues (see later)]
- Extra DE's
- Media players and other stuff that requires restricted extras
- 'professional' software
- Unity 2D (yet) (once we hit 11.10 it will be default fallback and stable
enough for us to integrade.)
- Software of which we aren't sure it's going to be supported for the time
the ubuntu version is supported.


Wanted:

- (Pre-boot) GUI should list the 4 languages prior to the install proces
- Possiblity for both a Persistent and a Pristine boot would be nice (U-fr
uses only persistent)


What we might want to add (later):

- Instruction Videos should endorse our users to explorer and get to know
their system, yet keep it simple enough for everyone to follow
Videos showing apps that might be usefull for some but not for all can be
handled here so people find their way to them..
- A PPA for Ubuntu-be containing LibreOffice Impress templates and Desktop
Wallpapers is adviced.
Due to the lack of goodlooking LibreOffice Impress templates, the Desktop
Wallpapers are just a way to promote ourselves..
 might be added later, no need to stall the project for this..
we could ask OSPublish to make us a wallpaper
- We could make some dedicated distro's as well afterwards (a kubuntu one,
or a rescue version..)



*= USB =*
The ISO we make should find it's way to belgian ubuntu users. We need a way
to get it out. One of these ways is a USB drive.
CDs are slow and netbooks (often) come without a CD drive, 

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Wegetit.be

2011-06-01 Thread martijn cielen
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:
[...]
 He also says he removed all these addresses out of his list once the
 message was out.
[...]

That was clearly a lie, as I received a message again today.
I think it's time for a formal complaint, and i'd like to see
ubuntu-be distantiate from this spammer.

Martijn

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] wegetit?

2011-05-31 Thread martijn cielen
I fully agree if:

1. The mail is as neutral as your example.
2. The mail is sent to the ML abd not to adresses harvested from that ML.
3. It happens only once per shop.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 31-mei-2011, at 17:48, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

 Jurgen Gaeremyn schreef op ma 30-05-2011 om 17:47 [+0200]:
 according to others, it's not-done to post advertisements to a
 mailing list (especially not to one that is being archived - thus
 generating a permanent page on some pseudo-forum).

 It's true that this list isn't meant for *advertisements*, but a neutral
 *announcement* of a new Ubuntu-related shop, company, etc. should be
 okay.  Something along the lines of:

Hello,

I'm X, and I'm opening a computer shop Y in Z.  I sell computer
systems with Ubuntu pre-installed and offer support for PCs with
Ubuntu in general.

More info at http://example.com

 Such a mail could be useful for many people subscribed to the mailing
 list (and in the broader community).





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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-31 Thread martijn cielen
Don't know about that, but doesn't win7 see the stick as usb2 at that moment?

Sent from my iPhone

On 31-mei-2011, at 18:10, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

 martijn cielen schreef op di 24-05-2011 om 15:35 [+0200]:
 oth Joe Sixpack will probbably not buy a 2.0 in a year
 time

 AFAIK a default install of Windows 7 doesn't support USB 3.0 without
 extra drivers, so I'm pretty sure USB 2.0 will be around for some time
 still...   ;-)


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] wegetit?

2011-05-30 Thread martijn cielen
wegetit? Maybe they get it, but I don't.
This is spam, and whether they promote Evil or Ubuntu, spammers should
be slowly and painfully killed by listening to Justin Bieber singing
the Microsoft Windows EULA :-)

btw, I received their mail too.

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:
 perhaps they can get Ubuntu on a usb3.0 stick :-)

 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Maik Adamietz maik.adami...@telenet.be
 wrote:

 Jurgen,

 I understand your point and think you are right. But however, that's my
 logical thinking, this person could have sent us a more personal mail
 explaining to us he has opened a (web)shop and giving us a real name
 who's behind this.

 Now it looks like a ordinary spam mail.. altough i like the idea.

 Also look at the end of the wegetit mail, there's a link to
 unsubscribe and no longer recieve the newsletter.

 On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 06:56 +0200, Jurgen Gaeremyn wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I wouldn't be rude to this guy (yet). He's one of the very few companies
  actually offering Ubuntu on its hardware. I think he's entitled to
  sending us one message to boast over this. Agree with Wouter, if this
  becomes a weekly habit, we'll have a friendly talk with this person,
  asking him to abide the Belgian laws on privacy.
 
  But for now, all I can say to that guy is: congratulations for having
  Ubuntu on the systems you sell! And thanks for telling me (now I know).
 
  I could only dream of some day getting 250 of these mails (all one-time
  notifications from companies selling computers).
  And while I'm dreaming, I'm also dreaming they actually offer
  professional grade support (for schools and small companies).
 
  Grtz,
  Jurgen.
 
  On 05/29/11 22:21, Frank Van Damme wrote:
   Anyone else who got a commercial email message from wegetit.be? I'm in
   the target audience clearly, but I'm wondering if those guys harvest
   their mail adresses from the archives of this ML, or somewhere else.
  
  
 
 



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Wegetit.be

2011-05-30 Thread martijn cielen
Weird. When I was in our local town hall a while ago, they had big posters
saying register now to become a donor.
Anyway, let's get back ontopic.

Sent from my iPhone

On 30-mei-2011, at 17:55, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:



On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:41 PM, wouter Vandenneucker 
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

  you don't..

 In belgium you are a donator by default.. Although they don't really make
 use of that without you really consenting with it..


 well when you are eligible to be a donator... you are mostly braindeath...
mostly those that had a car accident in the weekends...

http://www.belgium.be/nl/gezondheid/gezondheidszorg/orgaan-_en_bloeddonatie/orgaandonatie/
here you will read in Dutch the following : those who don't speak... will
automatically give permission to donate their organs... only your children,
Wife and Parents can object to this... also you have to be at least 15 years
old

you can sign a letter in your municipal if you do not want this to happen in
advance...

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu cd/dvd

2011-05-26 Thread martijn cielen
Here's a link to a pdf that seems to explain the process to get what
you want: 
http://www.google.com/url?sa=tsource=webcd=1ved=0CB8QFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.byui.edu%2FSocieties%2FLinux%2FArchive%2Fcreating_a_linux_multi-boot_dvd_LWellman.pdfrct=jq=create%20multi%20linux%20install%20dvdei=aAfeTbqlCsWYOsie_eUJusg=AFQjCNH_uDeEKuuw932mKFf7nIVMU3OQxgcad=rja

Haven't looked at it in-depth, but seems worth having a look.

Martijn

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:
 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:47 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'm not sure what is the most effective approach here:
 - 32bit version with X-L-K-Ed-Ubuntu
 - 64bit version with X-L-K-Ed-Ubuntu
 OR
 - 32bit Kubuntu
 - 32bit Ubuntu
 - 32bit Edubuntu
 - 64bit Kubuntu
 - 64bit Ubuntu
 - 64bit Edubuntu
 About that second option: Would it be possible to put all the packages on
 the cd only once per Xbit version?
 http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19216/ is also thinking about that..

 it should be possible to start with a 32bit and a 64bit ubuntu iso...
 and add on each the ...-desktop packages...
 gnome,kde,xfce, ... vs U/K/...
 imho an edubuntu-desktop is just an ubuntu with more educational
 software
 the edubuntu-desktop contains the following:

 ubuntu-edu-preschool - Preschool (  5 years old) educational application
 bundle
 ubuntu-edu-primary - Primary ( ages 6-12) educational application bundle
 ubuntu-edu-secondary - Secondary ( ages 13-18) educational application
 bundle
 ubuntu-edu-tertiary - Tertiary ( university level ) educational application
 bundle

 I haven't played much with edubuntu... don't know if it's all in Dutch
 and for kubuntu people you can install edubuntu-desktop-kde (but not all
 educational software is ported to KDE or contains kde-only material so it
 will install gnome stuff like Gcompris as far as I know


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-25 Thread martijn cielen
Don't want to be nit picking, but that's an article of 2010. The rumor
I heard was from UDS-O.
Don't know if Mark has changed his opinion since then though.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:


 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:27 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are absolutely right, but rumor has it Canonical is thinking of
 switching to dvd. Anyone knows more?

 some history
 : http://techie-buzz.com/foss/is-it-time-for-ubuntu-to-switch-to-a-dvd-iso.html
  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/mark-shuttleworth-talks-projcet-harmony-unity-and-more

 Any plans on changing the one-cd strategy, to get room for more standard
 tools, like say a daemon administration tool and a firewall?

 No, it’s a good discipline, we need to get better at helping people find
 things like those tools of yours, after they install and forcing less on
 them up front.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-24 Thread martijn cielen
Gents,

something that just springs to mind, as Ubuntu imho as also about
being ready for the future, I'd recommend ordering USB 3.0 sticks.
What do you think?

Martijn

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
 lol that project ain't gonna run unity :p
 256MB of RAM is to little.
 Massimo and Clamam checked it yesterday and Unity need 512MB minimum.
 but I already saw this pass by on HackaDay (or HackNMod).
 Love the idea, maybe we've got some ubunteros who are in a Hackerspace and
 dying for a new project?
 grts

 Wouter

 
 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:42:45 +0200
 From: ste...@leeman.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:

 lol! just felt that whip cracking my 4ss... that hurt.

 I love the idea of this stick - and I don't doubt anyone thinks it is a
 bad idea.


 also on Long term...i've been added to the mailinglist of this
 : http://raspberrypi.org/
 this is no ordinary usb stick...it fits right into the hdmi port of your
 flatscreen... just add usb keyboard.mice... and play ubuntu
 no need for a pc/laptop/netbook/tablet or Chromebook or playbook
 or whatever :-)
 but it will take another year probably untill it goes to market :(

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-24 Thread martijn cielen
s/as/is

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:03 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Gents,

 something that just springs to mind, as Ubuntu imho as also about
 being ready for the future, I'd recommend ordering USB 3.0 sticks.
 What do you think?

 Martijn

 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 3:11 PM, wouter Vandenneucker
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
 lol that project ain't gonna run unity :p
 256MB of RAM is to little.
 Massimo and Clamam checked it yesterday and Unity need 512MB minimum.
 but I already saw this pass by on HackaDay (or HackNMod).
 Love the idea, maybe we've got some ubunteros who are in a Hackerspace and
 dying for a new project?
 grts

 Wouter

 
 Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 23:42:45 +0200
 From: ste...@leeman.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
 jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be wrote:

 lol! just felt that whip cracking my 4ss... that hurt.

 I love the idea of this stick - and I don't doubt anyone thinks it is a
 bad idea.


 also on Long term...i've been added to the mailinglist of this
 : http://raspberrypi.org/
 this is no ordinary usb stick...it fits right into the hdmi port of your
 flatscreen... just add usb keyboard.mice... and play ubuntu
 no need for a pc/laptop/netbook/tablet or Chromebook or playbook
 or whatever :-)
 but it will take another year probably untill it goes to market :(

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-24 Thread martijn cielen
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Maik Adamietz maik.adami...@telenet.be wrote:
 Don't know much about this part but.

 Are these USB 3.0 still compatible with USB 2.0? Also in the future? If
 yes, no problem, if not we might be forced to do a hardware
 upgrade?

3.0 is fully backward compatible with 2.0

 Also.. Don't USB 3.0 sticks cost more at the moment compared to USB 2.0
 sticks?

probably, oth Joe Sixpack will probbably not buy a 2.0 in a year
time, as 3.0 will become mainstream and 2.0 will be old

 But over all i love the idea's about the USB sticks. :)

 On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 13:03 +0200, martijn cielen wrote:
 Gents,

 something that just springs to mind, as Ubuntu imho as also about
 being ready for the future, I'd recommend ordering USB 3.0 sticks.
 What do you think?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-24 Thread martijn cielen
Sent from my iPhone

On 24-mei-2011, at 18:58, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:



On 24 May 2011 15:42, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:35 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

  Are these USB 3.0 still compatible with USB 2.0? Also in the future? If
  yes, no problem, if not we might be forced to do a hardware
  upgrade?

 3.0 is fully backward compatible with 2.0


 yes... the connector is bigger but a usb2.0 connector still fits ...
 a usb 2.0 device is even slightly faster on a usb 3.0 port due to new
 chipsets

 usb 3.0 is primordly necessary for ssd as the usb sticks  harddisks were
 practically fast enough...



The more important thing is the other way around. Since Ubuntu is often used
on older hardware, will a usb3.0 stick fit a usb2.0 port (or even usb1.0) on
an old computer?


That's the definition of backwards compatible ;-)


 Also.. Don't USB 3.0 sticks cost more at the moment compared to USB 2.0
  sticks?


 yes... it will take a while untill that is gone...
 this wednesday you can buy a usb 3.0 harddisk in aldi shop :-)

While the usb3.0 is introduced, we might get old usb2.0 stock at very
reduced rates?


Like I said, we should aim at (in Dutch) the one with your first name and a
hat. He'll feel he's buying something old in a year.


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-24 Thread martijn cielen
You are absolutely right, but rumor has it Canonical is thinking of
switching to dvd. Anyone knows more?

Sent from my iPhone

On 24-mei-2011, at 22:54, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:

While the usb3.0 is introduced, we might get old usb2.0 stock at very
 reduced rates?


 Like I said, we should aim at (in Dutch) the one with your first name and a
 hat. He'll feel he's buying something old in a year.


but it doesn't have to be made from gold, 64gbyte, with an audio out for
voip, ...
1gbyte should suffice for ubuntu and even with unity that will not be more
... even with alternate, kde/gnime dutch/french/english/German on 1 stick
1gb is enough?
your docs should be on the cloud (ubuntu one? :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu braai

2011-05-23 Thread martijn cielen
Willem,

I don't want to offend you, buy how can you say you promote freedom, and at
the same time promote the limitation of freedom by trying to make people
feel sorry about eating meat?

Are you also against lions killing animals to eat? Are you against my cat
killing pigeons and rabbits?

Killing animals is purely natural, abd it should be anyone's free choice to
eat meat or not.

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 23-mei-2011, at 23:25, Willem Hulscher ubuntuwil...@yahoo.com wrote:

An animal is also anyone. So there is some abusing happened in that mail. In
any case, there is an ancouragement for killing and eating someone. I
understand that you do not see that, but an animal is also anyone. So anyone
will be abused for that party.  Sorry for wake you up

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*Subject:* Re: [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu braai

But abusing this poor little mailing list that never did anything bad to
anyone, is OK?

On 23 May 2011 13:35, Willem Hulscher ubuntuwil...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Well, it is too far away, but if else, I also did not come. I not only take
 care of freedom for people, but also freedom for other animals. And braai
 death bodies of abused animals is no pleasure for me. I am so sorry for that

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 *Subject:* [Ubuntu-be] ubuntu braai

 (the following message contains South African slang. If you are lost in
 translation, there are plenty of web sites that will help you out with it.
 Google is your friend. The Wikipedia list is kak, don't bother)

 Howzit!

 As promised I'll be organising a lekker South African braai at our place.
 Jurgen suggested to publish a Doodle with some date proposals, so here goes:
 http://doodle.com/f2i9h2gsrsp6hz2i
 Please do fill in your name and the dates you are available if you wish to
 attend.

 How will this braai work?
 Basically anyone is invited, but we do have a logistic limit of 10 to 15
 people on our terrace. The weather needs to be dry for the occasion. If it
 rains, we need to shift the venue or the date. I have access to pretty
 accurate forecasts so I can tell you at least a day in advance.

 South Africans are very casual with their braai. If you happen to have a
 friend that wants to come along last minute, he/she is welcome to join.
 Your friends are our friends too.
 Because of this, the logistics are just as casual. We do cater for those
 who want it. We'll have to shop for it ourselves and anyone can just ask to
 buy something for them as well.
 Many people prefer to bring their own 'dop en tjop'. Then they know they'll
 like the meat that's on the fire, and the booze that is available.
 We will have the basics: lager beer, wine, cola, water, and salads and
 snacks. We will have braaivleis according to our own taste. If you wish we
 should cater for you, by all means, just let us know. There may be some
 boerewors if we can get hold of some. We usually get some sosaties and chops
 from the local butchery.

 You can try your skills on our vuvuzela's if you wish. (Don't give your
 opinion now. It will all change once you have a few 'doppe' in you.)

 We usually start our braai early. We get together from about 5pm onwards,
 and the fires are usually started at around 7pm (actually after sunset, but
 this is not recommendable in summer in Belgium).
 It gives us enough time to talk shit, have some snacks, and drink! They
 have a saying: Meestal is die mense gaar voor die vleis gaar is. (Usually
 the people are 'cooked' before the meat is cooked).
 Starting early has the added advantage that the party is usually over well
 before midnight, and you still have the opportunity to catch the last train.
 No need to drink and drive.

 But if you don't feel like going home that night, we always have a spare
 bed or two, and you are welcome to just kip until the morning.

 Obviously there is no dress code for the occasion. Most people come in
 shorts and plakkies if it's warm enough.

 So kom maak 'n draai en kuier saam met ons. We're going to have a moerse
 party.

 Cheers,
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[Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
Gents,

As all of us use Ubuntu, and some of us even know how to program, I'm
calling for help (I'm not a developer myself, and have very little
spare time atm).

Would anyone of you be able to create a Unity Lens for MobileVikings?
The full 2.0 api documentation is online, as is the documentation for
lenses. Of course, all credit goes to the genius that creates the
lens. ;-)

kindest regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
Stijn,

I see what you mean without even looking at the code. Hardcoded
credentials is obviously a no go, but since MV uses OAuth, there must
be way to overcome this problem? (Again, I'm not a developer)

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Stijn Van Campenhout
st...@cmelectronics.be wrote:
 Martijn,

 I don't say this wouldn't be neat!. I'm a heavy fan of Mobile Vikings. But 
 I'm just thinking of the design problems it could have. For example take a 
 look at the evernote example source code: 
 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity-place-sample/trunk/view/head:/src/daemon.vala
  , The login details are hard-coded in the vala script and I don't think 
 unity has any dialog/password support build-in. I would certainly try if I 
 could write C or vala (never heard of vala before) just for the kicks of it. 
 But do you understand the problem?

 Kind regards,

 Stijn

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: mcie...@gmail.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens 
 martijn cielen
 Verzonden: donderdag 19 mei 2011 9:00
 Aan: Ubuntu Belgium
 Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

 Stijn,

 basically you can do anything with a lens. See also
 https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unity/Lenses/Ideas
 So the MobileVikings Lens could display all your account information
 (cfr eg iPhone app MyVikings).

 kindest regards,

 Martijn

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Stijn Van Campenhout
 st...@cmelectronics.be wrote:
 Martijn,

 Aren't Unity lenses meant for searching protocols or am I totally missing 
 the point here?

 Kind regards,

 Stijn

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: mcie...@gmail.com [mailto:ubuntu-be-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Namens 
 martijn cielen
 Verzonden: donderdag 19 mei 2011 8:00
 Aan: Ubuntu Belgium
 Onderwerp: [Ubuntu-be] Unity Lenses

 Gents,

 As all of us use Ubuntu, and some of us even know how to program, I'm
 calling for help (I'm not a developer myself, and have very little
 spare time atm).

 Would anyone of you be able to create a Unity Lens for MobileVikings?
 The full 2.0 api documentation is online, as is the documentation for
 lenses. Of course, all credit goes to the genius that creates the
 lens. ;-)

 kindest regards,

 Martijn

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
Even better would be to have some people start Canonical Belgium ofcourse ;-)
(I'd apply for a job there immediately)

But seen the negative faq item, I guess we're stuck with overpriced
shipping. Guess we could revive the idea of samenkoop I launched a
while ago, if we find a decent way to manage this.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I doubt canonical will let a loco as Ubuntu-be manage this..
 Ubuntu-fr is way bigger and has a decent structure as well.
 Nevertheless we could ask for that, it would make some things cheaper to
 distribute etc..

 grts


 Wouter

 Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 09:13:21 +0200
 From: mcie...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

 We could offer them for a symbolic price (eg € 2), this will imho
 prevent people from just grabbing one and putting it in a drawer never
 to come out again, as they paid for it. On the other hand they don't
 have the feeling it has cost them an arm and a leg.

 On a side note: when becoming a vzw, can't we talk to Canonical to let
 Ubuntu-be offer an Ubuntu store on European main continent? If we
 distribute resources and stock, this should be feasible without huge
 investments. Just an idea.

 On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:
  I wouldn't offer them for free imho?
  unless you can find such a sponsor?
  Flemish gouvernment with an edubuntu release? :-)
 
  On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:32 PM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
  sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company
 
  Sent from my iPhone
  On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Some more advantages:
   It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
  version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity
  becomes
  outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.
 
  It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
  quicker too.
 
  Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike
  the
  CD. We would have to charge money.
 
  A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead
  before the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
  If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer
  the
  usage of my bvba.
 
  Cheers,
  Jan.
 
  On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hey Steven
  Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I
  think it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
  Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the
  idea
 
  on: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
  I'll also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting
  (26/05/2011). Feel free to discus it there as well.
  I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I
  can think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
  - More durable than a CD
  - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
  - Can be updated
  - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you
  like)
  - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising
  for us. (Free Publicity)
  - Also works for Netbook owners
  - Really awesome goodie.
  - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu
  (once
  we finally create it..)
  grts
 
  Wouter
  PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.
  
  On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:
 
  Hi,
  Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me
  if
  I could deliver ubuntu on a USB stick and send it to France.
  No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in Dutch sent on a
  1GB
  stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
  overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens...
  Gained
  another Ubuntero.
  I've watched out for preloaded ubuntu sticks...
  I believe that Ubuntu-fr had some on Fosdem...
  Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...
  http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
  4gbyte usb stick
  20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport
  I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me
  following prices:
  model Usb Incentive
 
  : http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
  4 GB 2.0 - Like Canonical sells them
  Price/piece: €7,66
  Logo Print: €0,10
  Transport (China): €20,-
  Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)
  1 GB 2.0  - Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
  extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
  Price/piece €5,26
  Logo Print: €0,10

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dell Poweredge 1850

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
Since no-one stepped forward to exchange the server for an Arduino,
I'm donating the server as is to ubuntu-be.
Do you guys think a t-shirt could come my way in return? ;-)

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:02 AM,  jurgen.gaere...@telenet.be wrote:
 Hi all,

 hackerspaces are by definition very open minded.
 If it's open, you're welcome :)

 In Brussels, as a general rule Tuesday night there is a weekly meeting -
 open for everyone too.
 For the other sites, just have a look on their wiki.
 If you go over, please say Hi! from me.
 I'm pretty sure you'll enjoy it!

 Grtz,
 Jurgen

 - Originele e-mail -
 Van: wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
 Aan: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Verzonden: Donderdag 5 mei 2011 09:54:59 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlijn /
 Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Wenen
 Onderwerp: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dell Poweredge 1850

 Hi everyone



 @Martijn, great choice on the arduino. An open platform with tons of active
 people in the community. I'm currently building an 8x8x8 LED cube and I use
 my arduino as long as it's in dev. stage.
 @Jurgen: can you just drop in at the hackerspaces? I study in Hasselt so
 there isn't one close anyway, but I'd love to take a look in a hackerspace
 someday in the near future.


 as for the dell poweredge, I might also have an scsi drive laying around
 somewhere. I'll look for this afternoon.


 grts






 Wouter



 Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 06:53:09 +0200
 From: jurgen.gaere...@pandora.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dell Poweredge 1850

 On 05/03/2011 07:37 AM, martijn cielen wrote:
  Hi list,
 
  I still have a Dell Poweredge 1850 gathering dust.
  It comes without disks and memory (due to employer's regulations).
  I'd like to change it against an Arduino board + starter kit.
  It could be used to demonstrate ubuntu server, so if really nobody
  wants it, I might donate it to ubuntu-be.
 
  kindest regards,
 
  Martijn
 

 Hey Martijn,

 I won't talk about the Dell Poweredge server, but if you're into
 Arduino, I would really like to suggest you to have a look at the
 Hackerspaces in Belgium:

 Brussels: HSBXL: www.hackerspace.be
 Antwerp: VoidWarranties: we.voidwarranties.be
 Ghent: Whitespace: www.0x20.be
 Charleroi: Wolfplex : www.wolfplex.org

 If I heard correctly, there's a few people starting of launching a
 Hackerspace in Brugge too. Don't know too much details about that one
 yet, but if relevant, I can get you in touch.

 Grtz,
 Jurgen.

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
That's one idea. If we choose that path, I think the vzw should be
more than just ubuntu loco, eg vzw for promotion and support of
ubuntu in belgium.

btw,

I'm playing with the idea of starting independant Ubuntu courses
somewhere in the next years (after our *huge* renovation works are
done). So a close collaboration with ubuntu-be will benefit both of
us.

kr,

M

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:22 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:
 if we're gonna sell mugs we need to do it the good way, not vista print
 way..
 I guess we could try to become an 'ubuntu market place' (like an ubuntu
 partner but with less musts)
 http://webapps.ubuntu.com/marketplace/

 there are a couple of them who do merchandising..

 grts


 Wouter
 
 Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 10:14:45 +0200
 From: ste...@leeman.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded



 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:57 AM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Even better would be to have some people start Canonical Belgium ofcourse
 ;-)
 (I'd apply for a job there immediately)

 But seen the negative faq item, I guess we're stuck with overpriced
 shipping. Guess we could revive the idea of samenkoop I launched a
 while ago, if we find a decent way to manage this.


 this is the ubuntu-fr shop...
 they ask 19 euro for a 4gbyte usb key
 : http://framakey.org/Pack/Framakey-Ubuntu
 http://enventelibre.org/ubuntufr
 you can create mugs with vistaprint...

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded --- the essential message

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
Has anyone considered asking Canonical for a severely reduced price
when we order eg 250 sticks?
That would at least save us a the hassle of testing/...

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Etienne Saliez etie...@saliez.be wrote:

 ( 1 )  UBUNTU USB STICK:
 
 An excellent idea and the essential message is
 ===
 Ubuntu is free. Bring your own USB stick and we will provide a free
 copy, the time of drinking a coffee.
 ===

 In practice in an exhibition many people do not have an own USB stick at
 hand and there could be too many demands waiting for copies at the same
 time.
 In that case most people will have no problem buying a new pre-loaded
 key becoming their property and being reusable later.
 This at a moderate but realistic price and including something for the
 service of the preparation of the key.

 Excellent if a bvba propose to manage such a service.
 Moreover if 100 USB keys need to be ordered at once, I am willing to
 participate in the investment.

 A little story:  some years ago at the end of an open source conference
 in Germany a friend was selling a lot of of home-made CD at 5 €uros !


 ( 2 ) HARDWARE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES:
 
 As it is today, buying equipment is a lottery !
 I have several incompatible equipments in my garage and not enough time
 nor experience to try to seek exotic drivers.
 All vendors I could ask, do not want to say anything about Ubuntu and do
 not even accept a test with an Ubuntu stick.

 I see a critical need for shops where the proposed hardware have been
 tested about Ubuntu compatibility.
 This at normal market price, the added value being here to avoid the
 risk to have to throw away unusable equipments.


 ( 3 ) LEGAL STATUS ?
 ---
 I see the need of 2 types of organizations having different roles:

 ( 3.A ) A not for profit association:
 A more visible status for the volunteers currently promoting Ubuntu in
 Belgium.
 If possible on a broader scale, as a participation in an international
 non profit association.
 Have a look at IVZW or AISBL, e.i. an extension of the Belgian law
 providing more flexibility for international associations, the members
 do not need to have the Belgian nationality.
 Basic requirements are limited to a postal address in Belgium and a
 yearly report showing that the activities are indeed non profit.

 ( 3.B ) Commercial services support:
 Management of equipment distribution and paid support services.



 Etienne Saliez



 On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 23:02 +0200, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
 misschien kan warddr eens kijken hoeveel ze er in china voor vragen.
 (Hij heeft ervaring met massa aankoop uit China) (T is een vak
 appart :p)


 en ja, de wiki zonder trouble, het is een droom voor iedereen..


 __
 Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 22:58:27 +0200
 From: ste...@leeman.be
 To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

 ja ik heb ze op de wiki gezet...
 het is niet opportuun om attachments te versturen per mailinglist (max
 size enzo)
 ook worden die niet in het archief opgenomen
 ook kan er makkellijker ingespeeld worden op de wiki (en heb ik weer
 kunnen vechten met moinmoin...grunch)

 2011/5/18 wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com
         die pdf's komen er bij mij precies niet door.. of bedoel je
         die op de wiki?
         
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded --- the essential message

2011-05-19 Thread martijn cielen
That's the official version, they might have another version if you
know the right people ;-)
Remember they stopped accepting special orders (multiple cd's) at
shipit (before they completely stopped shipit)? I mailed them,
explaining I was a support point and handed out quite a lot of cd's.
Got 30 without a problem.

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be wrote:
 what do you want to test?
 it works...I tested it :-) damn thing boots if you don't have an too old
 device that still requires you to press F12; choose usb-zip or
 something...
 in the faq I quoted from earlier it's mentioned that they don't have a
 reduced price for large quantities...you could only have a discount on
 shipping...which is what's being used for certain articles to fosdem in
 the past ?

 On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, martijn cielen mcie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone considered asking Canonical for a severely reduced price
 when we order eg 250 sticks?
 That would at least save us a the hassle of testing/...


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] usb sticks met ubuntu preloaded

2011-05-18 Thread martijn cielen
The problem of offering the sticks for free could be solved by asking
sponsorship from a non-profit or an open source minded company

Sent from my iPhone

On 18-mei-2011, at 17:57, Jan Bongaerts jbongae...@gmail.com wrote:

Some more advantages:
 It is also timeless for us a supplier. You load them with the newest
version. No risk of stock becoming obsolete, except if the capacity becomes
outdated. Which is why I'd opt for the 4Gb version.

It is easier to load a usb stick than to burn a CD. I think it might be
quicker too.

Main disadvantage: We would not be able to offer them for free, unlike the
CD. We would have to charge money.

A vzw would indeed be a good idea, but if it is decided to move ahead before
the vzw is established, I might be able to help.
If a company is needed to operate this venture, I am willing to offer the
usage of my bvba.

Cheers,
Jan.

On 18 May 2011 17:36, wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Hey Steven

 Personally I like the idea. I mentioned it once to warddr IIRC. But I think
 it is something that might require us to be a VZW.
 Nevertheless, I'd like to discuss it. Therefor I propose you put the idea
 on:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsGoodies2011I'll
 also add it as a point to discuss on the next IRC meeting (26/05/2011). Feel
 free to discus it there as well.

 I think that a USB-stick has multiple upsides. A quick list of those I can
 think of right now (together with the benefits steven described):
 - More durable than a CD
 - More valuable (less chance they just install it and than ditch it)
 - Can be updated
 - You'll be able to use it as a normal USB stick afterwards (if you like)
 - People who use it as a personal data stick are generally advertising for
 us. (Free Publicity)
 - Also works for Netbook owners
 - Really awesome goodie.
 - Gives an extra chance to promote our Localized version of Ubuntu (once we
 finally create it..)

 grts


 Wouter

 PS: For those who don't speak dutch, I translated Stevens mail below.

 --
 On Wed, 18 May 2011 13:08:34 +0200 ste...@leeman.be wrote:

 Hi,

 Last month I got this question via the supportpoint network asking me if I
 could deliver ubuntu on a USB stick and send it to France.
 No problem... in 123 the last version of ubuntu in Dutch sent on a 1GB
 stick in an envelope straight to Cote D'Azur to a Belgian citizen who
 overwintered... I already received some beautiful printscreens... Gained
 another Ubuntero.

 I've watched out for preloaded ubuntu sticks...
 I believe that Ubuntu-fr had some on Fosdem...

 Via the Canonical shop they cost more than 28 euros for a 4GB stick...

 http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=874
 4gbyte usb stick
 20,36 euro + 7,51 euro transport

 I've contacted the first USB supplier I could find and he gave me following
 prices:

 model Usb Incentive :
 http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/132/usb-stick-incentive-zilver.html
 4 GB 2.0 - Like Canonical sells them
 Price/piece: €7,66
 Logo Print: €0,10
 Transport (China): €20,-
 Total for 100 pieces: €796,- (excl. BTW)

 1 GB 2.0  - Minimum size for an Ubuntu Live CD...Has 300MB spare for
 extra's (NL Language for instance.. or some extra programs?)
 Price/piece €5,26
 Logo Print: €0,10
 Transport (China): €20,-
 Total for 100 pieces: €526,- (excl. BTW)

 The minimum amount is 100 pieces, so I gave the targetprice for 100 USB
 sticks from a good priceclass (like USB Incentive) *including printing of
 the logo in 2 colors.*
 Printing costs per color are €0,05.

 Although I was able to sent a normal usb stick to France in a normal
 envelope... it might be beter to use creditcard' models?

 http://www.usbstick-producent.nl/nl/usbstick/information/183/usb-creditcard-standaard.html
  ...
 the experience is that the stick parte is easy to click out if your
 usb-ports  can't handle wide carts...
 The extra amount for a creditcar model is €0,48 per stick.

 I could also hear what other suppliers have to say?

 You don't give away the sticks for free of course but you sell them with a
 small profit...
 - ubuntu cd's are out of date after 6 months...;
 - Cd's take a big amount of time to burn (the average pc has 6 usb ports
 atm... you've got 6 stick in a 123 with ubuntu on them... And then we aren't
 talking about USB hubs)
 - You write a cd only 1 time and throw them away afterwards... (except when
 you have a nice artistic print so you can reuse them as a clock?)
 - USB sticks can be updated... or you can change the data with something
 else... So the buyer isn't cheated with buying the stick.

 Maybe this can result in a nice discussion?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Dell Poweredge 1850

2011-05-04 Thread martijn cielen
It indeed requires ECC ram. As for the disks Pierre has to offer, I'll
have to investigate. Won't be before next week though. I presume any
scsi disk will do, as long as it's ultra-320.

If anyone wants the server for personal use, both disks and memory are
quite easy to find on sites like tweakers.net.

These servers usually sell for about € 120 without disks or memory.

Kindest regards,

Martijn

Sent from my iPhone

On 4-mei-2011, at 23:38, Pierre Vorhagen pvorha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, and it will require ECC RAM, I'm practically certain of that.

 Pierre


 On 04/05/11 23:30, Jan Claeys wrote:
 If I understand the Dell specsheet I found correctly, it needs SCSI hard
 disks (those aren't so easy to find anymore)?  And does it work with
 normal DDR2 RAM or does it require ECC?



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] T-shirt update

2011-01-14 Thread martijn cielen
same here. Anyway, my vote goes to v4

Martijn

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Jim Bauwens jimbauw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can't vote, even if I login, so maybe the access settings are wrong ;-)
 Jim

 On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, wouter Vandenneucker
 wouterv...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi guys,


 Previous poll showed that most of you guys like the v9. But because of the
 position of some content on some shirts we would have to pay €2.56 extra for
 each shirt.
 v6, v7 and v9 have either content on the front and the sleeve or on the
 front and the back. This results in 2 separate printings and thus 2 times
 setup costs.


 Therefor we have decided to leave v6 v7 and v9 out of the voting. We want
 to ask you to fill in one last poll. After this poll we will order 100
 shirts.

 They will be available for everyone. Once you all have voted we will take
 pre-orders!

 The shirts should be ready before FOSDEM, so we'll be ordering very soon.
 Don't miss out your chance to vote.
 The poll will close the 17th of januari at 23.59h

 You can vote for your favorite shirt at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/514/which-shirt-do-you-prefer

 The proposal T-shirts can still be found at:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/PromotionMaterial/ProposalsT-shirts
 Or at: http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection


 More info and the results of the last poll can also be found at:
 http://ubuntu-be.org/nl/content/515/shirt-selection

 Kind regards,



 The Ubuntu-be T-shirt-team

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Belgian ubuntu Bloggers

2010-02-03 Thread martijn cielen
Mike,

most of these blogs are aggregated on planet.grep.be

kindest regards,

Martijn

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Alain Baudrez a.baud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mike,

 I have a blog that I use to scribble about Linux in general when I feel
 like it. I'll focus a bit more on Ubuntu in the future so here it is :

 http://wamukota.blogspot.com

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu cd's beschikbaar in Gent?

2010-01-13 Thread martijn cielen
Toen ik dit mailtje las in GMail, stond er een reclame linkje bij naar
http://www.akmedia.nl/cddvd/bedrukken.php -- misschien kan iemand daar eens
informeren naar mogelijkheden/prijzen?

2010/1/13 Ward De Ridder ward.ubu...@gmail.com

 Dat zelf laten maken klikt goed.
 Dat is vorig jaar ook eens gedaan voor een releaseparty zeker hé?

 Ward

 Op 13 januari 2010 19:12 schreef Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be het volgende:

 Op maandag 11-01-2010 om 22:42 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Sander Van

 der Maelen:
  Ik sta al enkele jaren op de steunpuntenkaart en heb mijn taken, hoe
  beperkt ook, steeds kunnen volbrengen door op Shipit cd's aan te
  vragen of in extremis zelf een image te downloaden en branden op cd.
  Nu, aangezien ik blijkbaar al te veel aanvragen in het verleden heb
  gedaan bij Shipit, kan ik geen mooie cd's met hoesje enz. meer
  bemachtigen. Ik krijg wel ongeveer eens per 3 weken een aanvraag voor
  een/meerdere cd's met ondersteuning, en dan een officiële cd te kunnen
  geven, zou best mooi zijn. *Zijn er toevallig nog dergelijke officiële
  Ubuntu-cd's beschikbaar in Gent?* Ik woon aan de Dampoort en kan er
  ev. binnen/net buiten de stadsring om komen...

 Momenteel is het zo dat je maar één aanvraag kan doen op shipit, tenzij
 je een Ubuntu Member bent.

 Binnenkort is er een dipro-beurs in Gent, als je wil kan ik je daar wel
 een paar officiële CD's bezorgen (eventueel sms je even wanneer je die
 dag buiten het ICC staat, zodat je geen toegang moet betalen--of je komt
 ons helpen op de stand die dag, dan is toegang gratis voor je ;) ).


 Daarnaast: ik heb zitten denken over het produceren van een eigen
 officiële CD voor ubuntu-be (en/of ubuntu-nl, er bestaat bijvoorbeeld
 al een CD voor ubuntu-fr)

 Zo'n CD's zouden wel niet gratis zijn, maar inclusief hoesje hopelijk
 wel goedkoper dan zelf CD-R's branden.

 Wat denken mensen daarover?



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[Bug 368966] Re: address bar completion gone after screensaver

2009-11-12 Thread Martijn Cielen
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 428703 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/428703

** Also affects: chromium-browser
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Identica

2009-11-05 Thread martijn cielen
In that case I'll take the liberty to forward messages whenever possible
using the new account ;-)

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Pierre Buyle 
mongolito404+ubuntu...@gmail.com mongolito404%2bubuntu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I created an identica group for Ubuntu-be long ago, see
 http://identi.ca/group/ubuntube

 With the group feature, I don't think we need a separate ubuntube
 account for announcements. Whoever has an announcement to do can use
 his/her own account. As there is no central management, But I plan
 to, one day, automatically publish event notification and reminder
 from the website (hint: if you want to dig Drupal + Identi.ca
 integration, you too can do it). A central ubuntu-be can be used for
 this sort of things. Also I've noting against somebody taking the
 responsibility to forward announcement from the mailing list to
 identi.ca using an ubuntu-be account.

 PS: There is also a Twitter Twibes, see
 http://www.twibes.com/group/ubuntube

 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, martijn cielen mart...@sudo-s.net wrote:
  Dear list,
  I've taken the liberty to create both an ubuntube identica user and an
  ubuntubelgium identica group.
  Those of you using identica can obviously join the group and/or dent to
  !ubuntubelgium.
  Ubuntu-be management can use the ubuntube user to do announcements.
 To
  whom should I sent the temporary password?
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Samenkoop

2009-10-23 Thread martijn cielen
Ik zal dan maar het initiatief nemen.
I've created a draft wiki page for Group Orders.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/GroupOrder

What has to be decided:
  1. the bank account number to use: I'd prefer the one normally used by
ubuntu-be
  2. the standard frequency of ordering (eg. every 2 months if order amount
exceeds 100 Euro)
  3. Who will follow up payments and ordering

I'm prepared to use my bank account and do the follow up, but under no
circumstance will I pay for items not paid beforehand.

kindest regards,

Martijn

2009/10/23 Ward De Ridder ward.ubu...@gmail.com

 Die lijst is er zeker: http://shop.canonical.com/
 Ik heb wel interesse in een laptopzak, ik moet alleen mijn ouders nog
 overtuigen dus dit is nog niet officieel!
 Krijgen we het dan aan de prijzen in euro in de shop, of komt er nog iets
 bij of gaat er nog iets af? Ik kan gerust wachten tot FOSDEM.

 Ward

 Op 23 oktober 2009 09:13 schreef mario ma...@verbelen.org het volgende:

 Hi all,

 Ik heb ook interesse in wat er te kopen valt voor promotie materiaal

 Bestaat hier ergens een lijst van of zo met prijzen en artikels?
 dan kan ik dat doorgeven aan onze marketing verantwoordelijke


 Mario,

 On Fri, 2009-10-23 at 01:24 +0200, Jan Claeys wrote:
  Op donderdag 22-10-2009 om 14:53 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef martijn
  cielen:
   Zou het niet interessant zijn om eens een samenkoop te organiseren in
   de Ubuntu Store?
   Ik heb alvast interesse in een paar zaken, maar de verzending kost
   bijna meer dan de artikels.
   Kan dit eventueel via de wiki opgezet worden?
   Ik zou de termijn wel beperken tot 2 weken (max 1 maand).
 
  Dat kan zeker, als iemand dat wil organiseren.  :)
 
  (We hebben het in februari ook al gedaan naar aanleiding van de inkopen
  die we deden voor FOSDEM, en waarschijnlijk doen we dit jaar weer voor
  FOSDEM, dus je kan eventueel ook wachten tot dan.)
 
 
  [English explanation]
  Martijn asks if it's okay to do a group order of stuff from the Ubuntu
  store.  Of course that's okay if someone organises it!  ;)
 
  We did this for FOSDEM 2009 already, and probably will do it again for
  FOSDEM 2010, so Martijn can also wait until then (whatever he  others
  prefer).
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Samenkoop

2009-10-23 Thread martijn cielen
Anyone with a credit card volunteering to follow up the orders and payments?

I don't have a CC either

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

 Op vrijdag 23-10-2009 om 12:41 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef martijn
 cielen:
1. the bank account number to use: I'd prefer the one normally used
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 We don't have an ubuntu-be credit card...


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] Computer day

2009-10-22 Thread martijn cielen
http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/21/keeping-ubuntu-cds-available/

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 9:04 AM, FrankyCorp francois.lev...@live.be wrote:


 Ubuntu ShipIt say this when I try to get 200CDs :



 Demand for Ubuntu CDs is very high, and we're trying to ensure that we have
 enough CDs for those who really need one. We've noticed that you've already
 received CDs of several previous Ubuntu releases. You can help us ensure
 the
 continued availability of Ubuntu CDs by

* upgrading to the new release without a CD
* downloading your own CD for free
* becoming an Ubuntu member by contributing to Ubuntu, and thereby
 becoming eligible for more CDs

 Thanks for your support of Ubuntu!


 I don't know how to do to get CD for Computer Day ??!!

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[Ubuntu-be] Samenkoop

2009-10-22 Thread martijn cielen
Zou het niet interessant zijn om eens een samenkoop te organiseren in de
Ubuntu Store?
Ik heb alvast interesse in een paar zaken, maar de verzending kost bijna
meer dan de artikels.
Kan dit eventueel via de wiki opgezet worden?
Ik zou de termijn wel beperken tot 2 weken (max 1 maand).

mvg,

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting report 07/10/2009

2009-10-09 Thread martijn cielen
Eerst en vooral moet ik even aangeven dat het leuk en handig is om de
notulen van de meetings te krijgen, aangezien ik op woensdagavond les geef
en dus onmogelijk aanwezig kan zijn. Maar. voor iemand die niet bij de
meeting was, is het onmogelijk op te maken wat er nu juist bedoeld wordt
met:


 3, Promotion material
  a. Ubuntu-case-stickers powered by ubuntu: see
 http://system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9#belgium 


Zijn de stickers er? Zijn ze er niet meer? Kortom, dit soort samenvatting is
misschien ietsje TE beknopt.
Maar voor de rest: keep up the good work.

En tussen haakjes, ik heb bij mijn weten nooit een vraag ontvangen als
support point in de periode dat de reacties getest werden vanuit ubuntu-be.

Grts,

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] laptops zonder windows licentie

2009-10-05 Thread martijn cielen
Ik zal het lijste een dezer eens aanvullen, want ik heb het wel degelijk
aangevraagd, en ik kreeg het ook, alleen aangezien het om een Asus EEE
900 ging, zou ik welgeteld 7 euro terugkrijgen voor windows xp. Al de moeite
en tijd die ik er zou moeten insteken, hadden mij meer gekost. Ik heb dan
maar de laptop verkocht.

2009/10/4 Steven Leeman ste...@leeman.be

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund
 alleen Belgische gebruikers komen nog niet in de voorbeelden voor :-)

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] IRC meeting - Forum topic

2009-09-03 Thread martijn cielen
I'd be happy to moderate the forum, as I want to contribute to the team a
lot more than I do now, but have little time to attend dipro fairs and such.

kindest regards,

Martijn

P.S: in case there are more volunteers than moderators needed, I propose the
following:

1. Arrange an irc-meeting on a date/time all candidate moderators can
attend.
2. Ask candidates in the meeting to briefly introduce themselves.
3. Ask candidates why they would make a good moderator.
4. Vote

Comments welcome ;)

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Pierre Buyle 
mongolito404+ubuntu...@gmail.com mongolito404%2bubuntu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi (again),

 I lightly reworked the poll. It will open in 12 hours and close on
 September the 9th at 8pm. The next meeting is scheduled the same day
 some at 9pm. My proposition is to acknowledge the poll results during
 this meeting. If the votes in favor of trying a forum, we should ask
 to have our own forum hosted by Ubuntu Forums (see
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCreatingForum). By this time we should
 have at least on volunteer to moderate the forum (as required by
 ubuntuforums.org).

 Is this ok for everybody ?


 PS: If needed we can expand to poll until the 16th.
 PPS: Interested moderators are invited to consult the Ubuntu Forums
 Code of Conduct (http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php?page=policy) and
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[Bug 421288] [NEW] [needs-packaging] cwibber http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cwibber

2009-08-29 Thread Martijn Cielen
Public bug reported:

cwibber is a cli interface to gwibber. It allows one to get
microblogging feeds from cli.

** Affects: ubuntu
 Importance: Undecided
 Assignee: Martijn Cielen (mcielen)
 Status: In Progress


** Tags: needs-packaging

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntu
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Martijn Cielen (mcielen)

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[Bug 421288] Re: [needs-packaging] cwibber http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cwibber

2009-08-29 Thread Martijn Cielen
** Summary changed:

- [needs-packaging] cwibber
+ [needs-packaging] cwibber http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/cwibber

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-16 Thread martijn cielen
Ik help nu al geregeld sofware vertalen.

2009/7/16 Patrick Coeman patrick.coe...@171.be



 martijn cielen schreef:

  Ik gebruik AL mijn softwaren in het Engels, omdat ik walg van (meestal
  slecht) vertaalde software (harde schijf? zijn er dan ook zachte?). De
  discussie ging dan ook niet over softwaregebruik, maar over taalgebruik
  in Ubuntu-BE.

 Matrijn,

 De meeste openbron pakketten kunnen hulp bij vertalen best gebruiken. De
 grotere hebben daar zelfs kleine teams rond. Misschien een suggestie om
 je harde nationalistische reflex te kanaliseren?

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-15 Thread martijn cielen

  Ik vind gewoon dat het Nederlands en het Frans niet moeten wijken voor
  het Engels.

 Says the person who uses his mail software in English:

  On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

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discussie ging dan ook niet over softwaregebruik, maar over taalgebruik in
Ubuntu-BE.
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-11 Thread martijn cielen
Jean,

op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het
Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen
storen mij geweldig:

1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3
officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels
is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens
deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet
tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn?
Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2.

2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal
(bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen
en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in
beide landsdelen gewerkt).

3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange
discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te
stellen.

4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet
worden.

Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal
zaken.

Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand,
donc je parle le néerlandais!

Gegroet,

Martijn

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, jean7491 jean7...@free.fr wrote:

  Hi to all,

 As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail:

 If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the 
 following.
 It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to 
 keep in mind.

 Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution.

 First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization
 problem.

 The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400)
 and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list.
 On 04/07, answering to the question Who is now in charge of our loco
 team?, Jan wrote Nobody is in charge really.
 The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few
 exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of
 website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in
 Launchpad) and bank account (money).
 As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside
 the technical problems.

 Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in
 the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects
 of the project, with no decision.
 This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to
 the LoCo Team members and adopted  by a leading  group mandated to take
 action (including money).

 The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear
 organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based
 on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work.
 An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long
 time.

 Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be
 recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city
 services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias
 (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal
 statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting
 Ubuntu.

 We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested
 persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the
 mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an in real
 life meeting should be organized for decision making.

 This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks.

 The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these
 issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group !
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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-11 Thread martijn cielen
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Matthew Deboysere
matt...@next-games.nlwrote:

  Jean,

 op 11 juli, de Vlaamse nationale feestdag, reageer ik even in het
 Nederlands. Ik volg de mailinglijsten nu al een tijdje, en enkele dingen
 storen mij geweldig:

 1. Het consequente gebruik van het Engels. Dit is België, en hier zijn 3
 officiële landstalen: Nederlands, Frans en Duits. Het gebruik van het Engels
 is dan ook compleet belachelijk, temeer daar een grote meerderheid niet eens
 deftig Engels kan schrijven (ja, ik ben een taalpurist). Ben je niet
 tweetalig? Of zitten er mensen op de lijst die niet tweetalig zijn?
 Begrijpelijk, maar dat brengt me meteen bij punt 2.

 *Matthew: Communicatie moet vlot verlopen en telkens alles vertalen of
 anderen buitensluiten helpt nu eenmaal niet.*
 Martijn: zie punt 2

 2. Ubuntu-be: waarom niet opsplitsen in een Ubuntu-vla en een Ubuntu-wal
 (bijvoorbeeld). Zo het sowieso veel makkelijker maken, aangezien Vlaanderen
 en Wallonië (o.a.) qua bedrijfscultuur totaal verschillend zijn (ik heb in
 beide landsdelen gewerkt).

 *Matthew: Wat doe je met Brussel? Wat met de Duitstaligen?*


Martijn: Nederlandstaligen bij Ubuntu-vla, Franstaligen bij Ubuntu-wal.
Duitstaligen kunnen evtl Ubuntu-osk (oostkantons) oprichten



 3. Een totaal gebrek aan leiderschap dat inderdaad leidt tot maandenlange
 discussies over non-issues. Hoog tijd om een volwaardig bestuur aan te
 stellen.

 *Matthew: Eens*

 4. Versnippering van informatie: een oud zeer waar nodig aan gewerkt moet
 worden.

 *Matthew: Ook eens*

 Soit, ik wil dus gerust (al dan niet fysiek) meedenken over een aantal
 zaken.

 Et pour mes amis francophones: j'aime la Wallonie, mais je suis Flamand,
 donc je parle le néerlandais!

 Gegroet,

 Martijn**

 On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:42 PM, jean7491 jean7...@free.fr wrote:

 Hi to all,

 As introduction, a few words from Steven's mail:

 If someone has time to spare during the holidays, they can always read the 
 following.

 It is a bit of a long term idea, and it might be something interesting to 
 keep in mind.

 Related to the last mails, a few considerations as contribution.

 First I think that a lot Ubuntu LoCo Teams are facing the organization
 problem.

 The readers of the Ubuntu-be mailing list are a wide community (+/- 400)
 and the Belgian LoCo Team (125) is only a part of the mailing list.
 On 04/07, answering to the question Who is now in charge of our loco
 team?, Jan wrote Nobody is in charge really.
 The existing Wiki BelgianTeam/Responsibility page is not updated with a few
 exceptions: the official point of contact of the team, administrators of
 website, mailing list and IRC, owners of the Belgian LoCo Team (in
 Launchpad) and bank account (money).
 As result, nobody is competent for taking action when necessary, outside
 the technical problems.

 Example, since 2 months the problem of new posters and flyers is a topic in
 the mailing list and we are still debating again and again about all aspects
 of the project, with no decision.
 This topic should have been be worked on by a marketing team, presented to
 the LoCo Team members and adopted  by a leading  group mandated to take
 action (including money).

 The effectiveness and the future of the Be LoCo Team needs a clear
 organization and structure in support of the volunteers: it can not be based
 on a mailing list or individuals, but on team-work.
 An informal organization willing to be active can not work for the long
 time.

 Another aspect is the legal issue (statute) of the Be LoCo Team: to be
 recognize as a credible interlocutor in contacts with institutions (city
 services, ...), enterprises (looking for sponsoring, ...) and medias
 (presenting the association, ...), we additionally need a recognized legal
 statute, more than a de facto association, a club of friends promoting
 Ubuntu.

 We should start with a thinking-group (with a small group of interested
 persons) on this issues. Coordinated proposals could be later posted in the
 mailing list for evaluation by the LoCo Team members and finally an in real
 life meeting should be organized for decision making.

 This is a long term process and I don't expect results within weeks.

 The first step should be to identify people interested in thinking on these
 issues: feel free to postulate for the thinking-group !

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Re: [Ubuntu-be] About the Belgian Local Community Team (Belgian LoCo Team)

2009-07-11 Thread martijn cielen
Ik ben steeds bereid een degelijke bijdrage te leveren in een goed
georganiseerd team dat:

1. zijn afkomst (zij het Vlaams/Waals/Zulu) niet verloochent, en dus ook
zijn moedertaal spreekt. Als er dan toch een universele taal moet
gesproken worden, kunnen we nog beter met zijn allen Esperanto leren. En ter
info: ik ben niet bang om Engels te spreken of te schrijven, ik durf zelfs
zeggen dat mijn Engels beter is dan dat van 90% van de lijst-gebruikers. Ik
vind gewoon dat het Nederlands en het Frans niet moeten wijken voor het
Engels. We hebben in Vlaanderen verdomme hard genoeg moeten vechten om
Nederlands te kunnen spreken!

2. Een degelijke structuur heeft, en bereid is op professionele manier te
werk te gaan. Ik heb te veel tijd verdaan in amateuristisch georganiseerde
feitelijke vernenigingen.

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Jan Claeys ubu...@janc.be wrote:

 Op zondag 12-07-2009 om 01:10 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Steven De
 Baets:
  4. Ik merk ook een roep naar het opsplitsen van de Belgische Loco naar
  een Vlaamse en een Waalse.

 Yeah, splitting up from 7 people into groups of 4, 1, 1  1 active
 people is really useful (*NOT* !!!).

 Please everybody, contribute first, then (maybe) if a part of the
 community gets large enough to be sustainable on its own we can talk
 about splitting it out into a subdivision.


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[Bug 368966] [NEW] address bar completion gone after screensaver

2009-04-28 Thread martijn cielen
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: mozilla-firefox

When screensaver becomes active when Firefox is running, after logging
in again, address bar suggestions don't work anymore.

This is on Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04

** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 344426] Re: gwibber crashed with NoKeyringDaemonError in get_data()

2009-03-27 Thread Martijn Cielen
I have the same issue with Jaunty and Gwibber 0.8

** Changed in: gwibber
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 213318] Re: Atheros AR5007EG driver is not included ( But is avaibile on net )

2008-07-04 Thread Martijn Cielen
As an Asus F5RL user with mentioned ar5007eg, I can confirm this card has 
serious issues in GNU/Linux.
For some ndiswrapper works.
For some the patched madwifi driver works.
For some none of these work.

I myself have to toggle the hardware-wifi-switch after every reboot to
be able to connect to any wireless network.

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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