Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?
My comment is not necessarily hypocritical because the person I was describing will ALWAYS be under-served whereas under-served people who have a greater ability to learn can at least move beyond being under-served. Jared On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 23:20 -0600, John Vilsack wrote: > Doesn't that seem sort of hypocritical since you just said that a list > that had "2) The under-served. They haven't quite figured out how to > make their computers work for them and just want something simple." > was 'Awesome?' > > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:08 PM, jared wrote: > > > > You just described a huge chunk of the population where I live :) > > > > There is a lady where I work who should be legally banned from using a > > computer because she has the brain power of a rock. She will never, > > ever be able to learn how to use any OS. I've tried to help her, as did > > others. If she can hardly use Windows, she sure won't be able to figure > > out Ubuntu. It's like watching Homer Simpson look for the "Any" key > > when the computer says "Press any key to continue". Personally, I think > > this type of person is an example of who NOT to target. > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-marketing mailing list > > ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?
If only you knew how many hours I've spent trying to help her. I suppose how I wrote it sounds disrespectful. I do respect her and the things she DOES know how to do. Pretty much what I wrote her is what I told her and we laughed about it. She knows quite well that she is a horrible student with computers. I respect that she keeps trying. If you called me dumb for being so bad at cooking because I burn Macaroni and Cheese, I'd laugh and completely agree with you. But you are referring to my ability and not me as a person. Do you disrespect me because I can't cook? Kudos to your efforts with teaching people. The world needs more of you. Jared On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:44 +, alan c wrote: > jared wrote: > > You just described a huge chunk of the population where I live :) > > > > There is a lady where I work who should be legally banned from using a > > computer because she has the brain power of a rock. She will never, > > ever be able to learn how to use any OS. I've tried to help her, as did > > others. If she can hardly use Windows, she sure won't be able to figure > > out Ubuntu. It's like watching Homer Simpson look for the "Any" key > > when the computer says "Press any key to continue". Personally, I think > > this type of person is an example of who NOT to target. > > > > > > Jared > > Your post shows a great lack of respect for others. Have you > appreciated the Ubuntu code of conduct? > However, I applaud that you have tried to help her. > > I run four PCs for a local charity whose members are adults with > learning difficulty. Abilities range widely. > However the members use the PCs with no training, no supervision, and > over a couple of years there have been no problems. I am IT support > and there is only a very rare question to me. > > I have an elderly relative (now nearly 90 years) who uses Ubuntu for > online shopping for groceries. > > In previous years I set up and ran a computer centre with one to one > help for older people, for Windows. I ceased doing that because Ubuntu > is very much more appropriate for novices or vulnerable people (and > everybody else too) than Windows. > > -- > alan cocks > Ubuntu user > -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested? (jared)
Since this seems to be a thread about commercial brainstorming, I might as well just throw this out there. Ubuntu. For you. And you. And you. And you. And you. And you. And you. And you. Ubuntu For You. In my head, I see a giant mirror that you are required to hold with two hands. Make it circular, and the Ubuntu logo is the frame with the middle being reflective. Each scene of the commercial has the person holding the mirror out saying "For you" while you see the reflection of somebody else in the mirror. Then the holder "gives" the Ubuntu Mirror to that person or persons, who repeats the process. The end could be a reflection of the world and its handed offscreen to fade to white. Of course, something like this actually would require a budget, planning, and subsequent planning how each "case" was really Ubuntu for the masses. But it would help to define a more authentic branding that doesn't have to associate with other products in the same niche for recognition. John Vilsack -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested? (jared)
I agree. We need to be "beating our own drum". Let these loud vibrations that are uniquely Ubuntu resonate around the globe. Here's an example: "Ubuntu. If you don't have it, all you have is software." <-- emphasizes the community aspect, which is the key differentiator in my opinion. The computer industry has a lot of baggage, and a lot of misinformation (noise). Layers and layers of misused terminology, FUD, etc. Our job is to cut through that with a clear, uniquely identifiable, and human signal, properly aimed. Cheers, Randall Ubuntu Vancouver Buzz Generator. On 10-02-08 10:01 AM, Martin Owens wrote: On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 09:50 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: All the talk about doing something similar to the "I'm a Mac/PC" ads sadden me to no end. That's the way to go if you want to send a message of: we are also-rans, clones that are dependent on the big ones showing us what to emulate, as we have no ideas of our own and if we have an identity at all, it's one that is solely defined in relation to Windows and OS X. Also-also-rans, unfortunately. We're like the Aldi of software, except without the adverts. And that's the sad point, even Aldi plays to it's strengths. Martin's mail is a bright spark, in contrast. Thanks, maybe others do agree that we should be beating to our own beat. Martin, -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested? (jared)
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 09:50 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > All the talk about doing something similar to the "I'm a Mac/PC" ads > sadden me to no end. That's the way to go if you want to send a message > of: we are also-rans, clones that are dependent on the big ones showing > us what to emulate, as we have no ideas of our own and if we have an > identity at all, it's one that is solely defined in relation to Windows > and OS X. Also-also-rans, unfortunately. We're like the Aldi of software, except without the adverts. And that's the sad point, even Aldi plays to it's strengths. > Martin's mail is a bright spark, in contrast. Thanks, maybe others do agree that we should be beating to our own beat. Martin, -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:58 PM, jared wrote: > I hope someone is writing down all these ideas and organizing them? Liam picked up working on a wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Projects/UbuntuViralVideos This page is from a couple years ago, but he updated it with some new info. I went ahead and brought back the old ideas from 2008 so there is a basis to work from. I don't actually have time to get too involved, but if someone wants to pitch in to add the ideas from the past week (at the bottom of the wiki page there is an "Ideas for videos" section), and update/tweak the ideas which are old - please do! -- Elizabeth Krumbach // Lyz // pleia2 http://www.princessleia.com -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] MOSS: Your Monthly FLOSS Magazine
Hi MOSS, is proud to present it's second issue. Like we thought and as was warned that this is a challenge, MOSS aims to be a monthly magazine; and of course we know the burden it puts on us. This issue features six writers who help comprise the vanguard of FLOSS in the Maldives. In addition to how-tos, how we did it, "what I use" and "what I think of"! In this magazine you can find an insight of challenges the IT Industry of Maldives will face in the next 2 years. Details of the Moodle project localization to Dhivehi. Other articles include introduction of various Linux programs used by our members. How to build or compile from source tar files and about Linux desktop environments, this time KDE. Last but not the least, a small nostalgic writeup of the magazine history for the /dev/null. Grab a copy at http://www.moss.org.mv/ Salam Yusuf Abdulla Shunan -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested?
jared wrote: > You just described a huge chunk of the population where I live :) > > There is a lady where I work who should be legally banned from using a > computer because she has the brain power of a rock. She will never, > ever be able to learn how to use any OS. I've tried to help her, as did > others. If she can hardly use Windows, she sure won't be able to figure > out Ubuntu. It's like watching Homer Simpson look for the "Any" key > when the computer says "Press any key to continue". Personally, I think > this type of person is an example of who NOT to target. > > > Jared Your post shows a great lack of respect for others. Have you appreciated the Ubuntu code of conduct? However, I applaud that you have tried to help her. I run four PCs for a local charity whose members are adults with learning difficulty. Abilities range widely. However the members use the PCs with no training, no supervision, and over a couple of years there have been no problems. I am IT support and there is only a very rare question to me. I have an elderly relative (now nearly 90 years) who uses Ubuntu for online shopping for groceries. In previous years I set up and ran a computer centre with one to one help for older people, for Windows. I ceased doing that because Ubuntu is very much more appropriate for novices or vulnerable people (and everybody else too) than Windows. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested? (Jason)
Paul from what I understand and I sort of summarise what others have said... What the Windows 7 advertisments are trying to communicate by saying "I'm a PC and Windows 7 was my Idea" is that the developers of windows actually listen to their end users.It puts power in the users hands by saying "I did it". Windows 7 users start to feel that they are an important part of the brand and the software development process and on some psychological level own the software :)... Most large companies will go to great extents to find out what their customers want. By creating this environment of "we are listening" and "its all about you" they win people's hearts and generate a healthy feedback mechanise where the end users tell the developer the sort of features they want to see :)... This is great market research for the devloper And the amazing feeling of contributing to something is what keeps users loyal to the brand. Very much like what open source software does... Just my 20cents worth hehehe... -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Creating Viral Videos - Who's interested? (jared)
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 19:59 -0500, Martin Owens wrote: > It's interesting that we don't play on our strengths of pointing this > out, getting people to go "Oh hey there is something else, oh it can be > installed on any PC, even Apple PCs, oh it's free and I get to OWN it, > control it, give it to my friends and even get involved with real people > who make it, not just marketing departments. > But what I see a lot of here is tail chasing... lets copy them because > they've spent money on those adverts. All the talk about doing something similar to the "I'm a Mac/PC" ads sadden me to no end. That's the way to go if you want to send a message of: we are also-rans, clones that are dependent on the big ones showing us what to emulate, as we have no ideas of our own and if we have an identity at all, it's one that is solely defined in relation to Windows and OS X. Martin's mail is a bright spark, in contrast. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
