Re: [ubuntu-marketing] diy website progress
I think this is a good way forwards. Nonetheless, there should be a definitive place for people to submit and review content. Then, content should be chosen democratically through whatever means. These chosen few should be well sorted on the site. Finally, I'd like to have a look at that code... Could you point me to a Bazaar tutorial? On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 17:42 -0500, Daniel Buch wrote: On 11/22/06, Toby Smithe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the DIY site, the links on the right have a brown heading, and a grey-brown box beneath. The edge of this box runs through the heading, which isn't particularly aesthetically pleasing. (Yes, I know I'm nit-picking). The style for the page is a semi-arbitrary mishmosh of stuff found on the main ubuntu site, the wiki, and MenZa's original work. I encourage anybody who'd like to alter styles to take a look at the css file and make recommendations :-) I'm personally more concerned with content and clarity at the moment, but comments about aesthetics are always appreciated. To summarize and respond to another point Toby makes, the DIY site *is* fairly closed, yes. There is no MySQL database in the background, no CMS engine. It was my hope - and I think that I saw Jenda mention this - that the forum and artwork site could be used for most of the discussion, submissions, etc, and that the DIY site could be more of a showcase for the chosen few. Openness is fantastic, yes, but we need to maintain control over the clarity of the site's message - and I admit that the posters page is already a bit crowded :-) Said more briefly: There are already so many dynamic, upload-friendly places for Ubuntu lovers to share content and ideas... can we wait for the SpreadUbuntu site before we start worrying about dynamism and such? If we can't, that's okay... I'd just like it if we can get the DIY site ready to go Active in a relatively short amount of time so that we can redirect focus on resurrecting SpreadUbuntu. How does that page work currently? Who has access to its code, and content? If you're willing to get Bazaar working, you can get my branch here: https://launchpad.net/people/meatballhat/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu Like I said - no database under the hood, so all the code's here. On a related note, I threw Jenda's post onto the DIYWebsite page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[ubuntu-marketing] diy website progress
The DIY Marketing website is nearing some state of completion - I think we're into Iteration[3] now ;-) http://diy.devubuntu.com Please file grievances to me or Jenda, but mostly to *me* as Jenda's busy taking on his role as a t-shirt vendor :-). The main page needs to be a bit less text heavy, at least upon first glance (ideas?) As there is only the posters section right now, it didn't make much sense (to me) to put larger, prettier links/thumbs dead center. Should there also be a t-shirts section? Fliers, CD holder thingies, temp tattoos, and sugar cookies sections? It should be said that the originally conceived SpreadUbuntu site is also in the works - running on a python CMS, no less: http://orangoo.com/skeletonz/ /* I'd like to remove myself from the bottleneck position as soon as possible ;-) */ Let the criticism begin. Cheers all, Dan Buch (meatballhat) -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] diy website progress
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Buch wrote: The DIY Marketing website is nearing some state of completion - I think we're into Iteration[3] now ;-) http://diy.devubuntu.com Please file grievances to me or Jenda, but mostly to *me* as Jenda's busy taking on his role as a t-shirt vendor :-). The main page needs to be a bit less text heavy, at least upon first glance (ideas?) As there is only the posters section right now, it didn't make much sense (to me) to put larger, prettier links/thumbs dead center. Should there also be a t-shirts section? Fliers, CD holder thingies, temp tattoos, and sugar cookies sections? It should be said that the originally conceived SpreadUbuntu site is also in the works - running on a python CMS, no less: http://orangoo.com/skeletonz/ /* I'd like to remove myself from the bottleneck position as soon as possible ;-) */ Let the criticism begin. Cheers all, Dan Buch (meatballhat) And it's also the time for the 'public' to start talking into what this site should look like/serve for. So far, my idea is picking up where SU left off. Allow me to quote my old wiki: === Here's where the fun starts. This section should offer: * Marketing HOWTOs * DIY Material * Testimonials and reviews. Marketing HOWTOs * This, IJO*, is the greatest contribution SU will have to the community. Here, we will try to gather recipes on how to spread Ubuntu in your locality. I think we should rate them in terms of: * time required - both free time to organise and time it takes to fire forget (ie. an Ubuntu Day can take hours to prepare and is over once it's over - OTOH, a [WWW] freedomtoaster type stand can take less time to prepare and is almost permanent - requires maintenance too). * cost * ingredients (40 pcs Ubuntu CDs, 2 pcs T-shirts needed, 1 pcs metropolis, etc. - doesn't need to take this form either) (* - In Jenda's Opinion) DIY Marketing Material * Downloadables, printables, shipabbles? See DIYMarketing for what this wiki already has. Spreadubuntu could offer it in a more accessible way. Testimonials and Reviews * We believe the user/spreader would like to know what others say about Ubuntu. We can include negative reviews as well, but we should add fine print comments denouncing or admitting the mistakes claimed within. === I don't think the testimonials still fit in now, and I chose to start with the DIY section. In other words: Is it possible to eat an elephant? Yes, but first you gotta cut it up into bite-size chunks. SU is a huge project, and that's why it never kicked off. So, first bite - - DIY: - - We need to assemble all the material available for download and sort it, well - - We need to offer people a way to submit ideas and for artists to pick them up, and submit material. We could hijack the artwork subforum for this, a bit. - - We need to encourage people to create RL, non-digital material in bulk and ship it to the community cheaply, offer them a place to document their offer and ordering procedure. Offer a place for end-users to report on the quality, value and promptness of the shipments. - - We need offer the material that someone is shipping out comprehensibly. Once this is done, we should move on to the Marketing HOWTOs section. That's where anyone can help, and where we will be needing the help of everyone :) As for the t-shirts, the idea was that I felt guilty that I only do the talking, and leave all the actual work to other people, like you, because of my lack of expertise. So I figured one of the things I _can_ do for the DIY project is give it a jump start - because people will more easily invest a bit of cash seeing that I invested my own (brag _all_ all of it, got it back, and even made a profit for other projects, repeatedly :) /brag) Thanks for your patience, and DIVE RIGHT IN! Feel free to use the old Spreadubuntu wiki for drafting documents, or open up wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite . - -- Jenda Vančura [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG: 519D056A Jabber me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFZFXCkfxlW1GdBWoRApLgAJ9qPXl0DHVKe0yF56y0cB9AngvKEACePTgX /VkE8/RfrwdqB2+JaudFWAc= =+Y6u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
Re: [ubuntu-marketing] diy website progress
On 11/22/06, Toby Smithe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on the DIY site, the links on the right have a brown heading, and a grey-brown box beneath. The edge of this box runs through the heading, which isn't particularly aesthetically pleasing. (Yes, I know I'm nit-picking). The style for the page is a semi-arbitrary mishmosh of stuff found on the main ubuntu site, the wiki, and MenZa's original work. I encourage anybody who'd like to alter styles to take a look at the css file and make recommendations :-) I'm personally more concerned with content and clarity at the moment, but comments about aesthetics are always appreciated. To summarize and respond to another point Toby makes, the DIY site *is* fairly closed, yes. There is no MySQL database in the background, no CMS engine. It was my hope - and I think that I saw Jenda mention this - that the forum and artwork site could be used for most of the discussion, submissions, etc, and that the DIY site could be more of a showcase for the chosen few. Openness is fantastic, yes, but we need to maintain control over the clarity of the site's message - and I admit that the posters page is already a bit crowded :-) Said more briefly: There are already so many dynamic, upload-friendly places for Ubuntu lovers to share content and ideas... can we wait for the SpreadUbuntu site before we start worrying about dynamism and such? If we can't, that's okay... I'd just like it if we can get the DIY site ready to go Active in a relatively short amount of time so that we can redirect focus on resurrecting SpreadUbuntu. How does that page work currently? Who has access to its code, and content? If you're willing to get Bazaar working, you can get my branch here: https://launchpad.net/people/meatballhat/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu Like I said - no database under the hood, so all the code's here. On a related note, I threw Jenda's post onto the DIYWebsite page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/DIYWebsite -- ubuntu-marketing mailing list ubuntu-marketing@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
