Mobile-media
I chatted to Bob about this briefly on Friday, but thought I'd mail the list to make sure that I don't end up doing anything unexpected. I've been looking into uploading gstreamer-dbus-media-service and mobile-player. I've got everything working and building happily, but there's a few changes I'd like to make: 1) Rename org.gnome.MobileMediaService to org.moblin.MobileMediaService - using Gnome's namespace for an interface that isn't part of Gnome doesn't sound like the best plan to me. 2) Adapt mobile-player to use directories in ~ rather than /usr/share for user information. Right now it wants to write files to /usr/share, which isn't going to work now that we're not running as root. Either it needs to be able to deal with the concept of merging multiple data sources (one read-only and another read-write) or we can just move everything into the user home directory. The downside of the simple approach is that it makes it harder to provide example data. I'm not much of a Python person, so I'm not so keen on implementing the more difficult side of things. If that can get worked out, it would be great. 3) Possibly rename mobile-player to moblin-player or moblin-media? This would be more consistent with the naming of the other packages. Other than that, I don't see any showstoppers. As long as there's agreement on these, I'll get it into gutsy this week. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: xserver configuration
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 06:35:38PM -0700, Spencer, Bob wrote: In order to view clutter/OpenGL-based home screen's inside Xephyr, we need Xephyr compiled to support 3D/glx. Has someone on this list done that or have any pointers? I pulled the xorg-server code and will be trying to do this. Any tips would be great. Bryce may know something about this; CCing him. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Theme and button images question
On Monday 08 October 2007 17:18:00 Zhu, Peter J wrote: Kenneth Wimer wrote: On Monday 08 October 2007 07:54:57 Spencer, Bob wrote: Ken / Peter, Due to my not having spent much time of late on theming, I'm still uncertain whether the theme contains all the pieces necessary for our first release. Namely, does the theme include all the pieces in the marquee? What about applicaitons like the media viewer -- do the graphics for its toolbars and buttons go in the theme or in a separate media-viewer-specfic package? No, none of these pieces are included in the template.png file but they probably should be. Because the theme-tools downloads the information from a maemo server it has been impossible to create a theme package based on a new layout. As I have menioned in the past, we need an installable theme package based on our own info in order to ever really test this stuff - it is imperative that we get this done in order to test the theme *before* we include it in the release. Buttons: I'm confused as to the right way to handle various button images and whether they are part of the theme. I know how to change the gtkrc file to register an object to show different images on normal, active, preselect, etc. What about a normal application that has buttons with images that are not part of the theme? For example, if the media viewer has a few buttons in the UI and a few buttons on the toolbar, which of these go in the theme and for those that do not go in the theme, what is the right approach to programatically alter the button images and where do these images reside? These may or may not be standard square icons. These button pics should also be in the template.png file I think. Hi Ken Since they are application specific, they should NOT be in template.png from my point. We never can predict what applications want to have. So why not leave them determined by application author? The buttons themselves are part of the widget theme and should therefor look the same as the rest of the widget theme. The icons displayed on top of them are part of the icon theme and/or the app can proved them. Maybe there is a good reason for doing it differently but this is the way that pretty much every OS does it. -- Ken -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [Bug 147792] Re: UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels.
So when can we expect this to be in the linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 package and available for a daily build ? --Charlie On 10/7/07, Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Changed in: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147792 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Charles Johnson Intel Corporation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Mobile-media
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 07:07 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I chatted to Bob about this briefly on Friday, but thought I'd mail the list to make sure that I don't end up doing anything unexpected. I've been looking into uploading gstreamer-dbus-media-service and mobile-player. I've got everything working and building happily, but there's a few changes I'd like to make: 1) Rename org.gnome.MobileMediaService to org.moblin.MobileMediaService - using Gnome's namespace for an interface that isn't part of Gnome doesn't sound like the best plan to me. I thought we did this already... yea, this needs to be fixed. 2) Adapt mobile-player to use directories in ~ rather than /usr/share for user information. Right now it wants to write files to /usr/share, which isn't going to work now that we're not running as root. Either it needs to be able to deal with the concept of merging multiple data sources (one read-only and another read-write) or we can just move everything into the user home directory. The downside of the simple approach is that it makes it harder to provide example data. I'm not much of a Python person, so I'm not so keen on implementing the more difficult side of things. If that can get worked out, it would be great. I meant to write a bug on this but never followed through. Perhaps the right approach for providing some minimal sample media would be to install the files in /usr/share, but then have the player copy over the sample media when it runs for the first time as a given user (i.e. when it constructs the media database in ~/.something-or-another.) 3) Possibly rename mobile-player to moblin-player or moblin-media? This would be more consistent with the naming of the other packages. I like moblin-media. Anyone else? Other than that, I don't see any showstoppers. As long as there's agreement on these, I'll get it into gutsy this week. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Mobile-media
Rusty Lynch wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 07:07 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I chatted to Bob about this briefly on Friday, but thought I'd mail the list to make sure that I don't end up doing anything unexpected. I've been looking into uploading gstreamer-dbus-media-service and mobile-player. I've got everything working and building happily, but there's a few changes I'd like to make: 1) Rename org.gnome.MobileMediaService to org.moblin.MobileMediaService - using Gnome's namespace for an interface that isn't part of Gnome doesn't sound like the best plan to me. I thought we did this already... yea, this needs to be fixed. Got it. ...and I believe moblin-media doesn't yet have MobileMediaService as an install dependency. 2) Adapt mobile-player to use directories in ~ rather than /usr/share for user information. Right now it wants to write files to /usr/share, which isn't going to work now that we're not running as root. Either it needs to be able to deal with the concept of merging multiple data sources (one read-only and another read-write) or we can just move everything into the user home directory. The downside of the simple approach is that it makes it harder to provide example data. I'm not much of a Python person, so I'm not so keen on implementing the more difficult side of things. If that can get worked out, it would be great. I meant to write a bug on this but never followed through. Perhaps the right approach for providing some minimal sample media would be to install the files in /usr/share, but then have the player copy over the sample media when it runs for the first time as a given user (i.e. when it constructs the media database in ~/.something-or-another.) Sounds like a simple solution. So to recap: 1) moblin-media package will contain a few samples (recommend: 2 pics, 1 song (short), 1 video) 2) when run, moblin-media will check for ~/media/ folder (any reason to hide it with .media?) 2a) if no ~/media folder, then create ~/media/photo, ~/media/video, ~/media/music and copy over sample content Question: If we were to create a separate moblin-media-sample-content package, where would it install its contents? How would these get into ~/media for the installing user given that installation is always done as root? (noob question) 3) Possibly rename mobile-player to moblin-player or moblin-media? This would be more consistent with the naming of the other packages. I like moblin-media. Anyone else? moblin-media Already in the works. Other than that, I don't see any showstoppers. As long as there's agreement on these, I'll get it into gutsy this week. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [Bug 147792] Re: UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels.
It is already in the current daily build (I tested the 20071007 q1 ultra build, though I see it in the manifest for menlow). The fixes are in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 version 2.6.22-13.33. On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:19:47AM -0700, Charles Johnson wrote: So when can we expect this to be in the linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 package and available for a daily build ? --Charlie On 10/7/07, Amit Kucheria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** Changed in: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/147792 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. -- Charles Johnson Intel Corporation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Mobile-media
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:33:08AM -0700, Spencer, Bob wrote: Rusty Lynch wrote: I meant to write a bug on this but never followed through. Perhaps the right approach for providing some minimal sample media would be to install the files in /usr/share, but then have the player copy over the sample media when it runs for the first time as a given user (i.e. when it constructs the media database in ~/.something-or-another.) Sounds like a simple solution. So to recap: 1) moblin-media package will contain a few samples (recommend: 2 pics, 1 song (short), 1 video) 2) when run, moblin-media will check for ~/media/ folder (any reason to hide it with .media?) 2a) if no ~/media folder, then create ~/media/photo, ~/media/video, ~/media/music and copy over sample content Question: If we were to create a separate moblin-media-sample-content package, where would it install its contents? How would these get into ~/media for the installing user given that installation is always done as root? (noob question) I think it would be wise to keep this in a separate package, even if they're small, so that it's possible to strip them out. example-content provides an example of how we do this for the desktop. They should be stored in /usr/share/whatever, and publishing in the user's home directory could be done by way of a symlink, as we do in the live CD. -- - mdz -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: Mobile-media
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 10:33 -0700, Spencer, Bob wrote: snip 2) Adapt mobile-player to use directories in ~ rather than /usr/share for user information. Right now it wants to write files to /usr/share, which isn't going to work now that we're not running as root. Either it needs to be able to deal with the concept of merging multiple data sources (one read-only and another read-write) or we can just move everything into the user home directory. The downside of the simple approach is that it makes it harder to provide example data. I'm not much of a Python person, so I'm not so keen on implementing the more difficult side of things. If that can get worked out, it would be great. I meant to write a bug on this but never followed through. Perhaps the right approach for providing some minimal sample media would be to install the files in /usr/share, but then have the player copy over the sample media when it runs for the first time as a given user (i.e. when it constructs the media database in ~/.something-or-another.) Sounds like a simple solution. So to recap: 1) moblin-media package will contain a few samples (recommend: 2 pics, 1 song (short), 1 video) 2) when run, moblin-media will check for ~/media/ folder (any reason to hide it with .media?) Not really. Just as long as the media database (i.e. both media files and metadata) is in the user's home directory. 2a) if no ~/media folder, then create ~/media/photo, ~/media/video, ~/media/music and copy over sample content Eventually we will need more then just a directory of files, but a database of additional information (metadata) that we associate with the files (like play list, ratings, etc.) This copying task will also initialize the media database. Question: If we were to create a separate moblin-media-sample-content package, where would it install its contents? I would think that /usr/share/moblin-media/sample-content/ would be a good location to install the content. How would these get into ~/media for the installing user given that installation is always done as root? (noob question) The application (running as the given user) would copy over the content into it's own media database. This would only happen the first time the user ran the media application. But... didn't you cover this on 2a? Maybe I didn't get the question? --rusty -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
RE: [Bug 147792] Re: UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels.
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 13:56 -0700, Johnson, Charles F wrote: It is there now, but you have to jump through some hoops to get the UI up. Specifically: 1. Boot single user and copy /etc/X11/xorg-crownbeach.conf over /etc/X11/xorg.conf This is odd. Are we not installing a session startup script from ume-config-crownbeach? Could you write a bug on this? 2. To avoid loading the wrong drm.ko, go to /lib/modules/2.6.22-13-lpia/kernel/drivers/char/drm and remove drm.ko and i915.ko You want it to pick drm.ko and psb.ko out of /lib/modules/2.6.22-13-lpia/ubuntu/media/drm-poulsbo Has anyone root caused why this is happening? --rusty -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Issues as converting a old project to lpia compatible.
Hi, I update with latest MIC and have a project existing for a long while. I modified some project configure info so that new MIC can launch with the old project. Then I modified source.list in /etc/apt and tried do a apt-get update but failed with following info: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packag es.gz 404 Not Found. It still tried to find i386 arch. I must have miss somthing. Anyone can help? Thanks Best Regards Peter -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
