Re: Should I try Ubuntu Mobile?

2008-04-21 Thread Rob Lifford
 Okay then: here start my questions. I am sad to say that I will start
 of with a question that I should know the answer to,  but I never came
 around to find out how it works.
 If I run apt-get install moblin-image-creator (as su) my dear EEEpc
 responds with:
 Reading package list.done
 Builinng dependency tree done
 E: couldn 't find package mobilin-image-creator
 I als tried this on a Ubuntu 7.10 64 bit system, same result.
 What is the problem? What am I missing?
 
 
 Hi.
 
 Did you enable the universe repository?

Adilson, is the version in that repo up-to-date? Several weeks ago, I had an
issue where the version I was getting via apt-get was out-of-date and
couldn't build a working target.

FWIW, the directions here --
http://www.moblin.org/documentation_howto/howto_create-image.php  -- worked
for me, and proved to be the only way I could find that provided the most
up-to-date version of Moblin Image Creator. Though that issue may well be
resolved by now.

Regards,
Rob


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Re: taking screenshots of UME on a Samsung Q1

2008-03-26 Thread Rob Lifford
Thanks very much for the reply -- but I got a command not found error trying
to use scrot. I'm working with the full-mobile-stack-with-proprietary.

RL


On 3/26/08 10:19 AM, Jelle de Jong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob Lifford wrote:
 Is there a screen capture utility installed by default with UME (I'm
 assuming to be run from the terminal)?
 
 If not, any recommendations on which to install that'd be easiest to get
 running in this environment?
 
 RL
 
 
 scrot --delay 3
 
 


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Moblin Media launching issues?

2008-03-26 Thread Rob Lifford
Last night I built a fresh target with Image Creator, using the
full-mobile-stack-with-proprietary fset, created an install USB key, and
installed it fully on a Q1U. I've got the device booting into UME but the
Moblin Media apps refuse to start from the home screen (they show the
loading message but then it just sits there). I've discovered that I can run
it (the Photo viewer) by invoking moblin-media from the command line, but
just thought I'd ask if anyone else has experienced this and knows what's
up.

Thanks,
Rob
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differences between test running in Xephyr and running on a device

2008-03-25 Thread Rob Lifford
For the past few days I've been experimenting with Ubuntu Mobile on my Gutsy
workstation via Xephyr.

Today, I got my hands on a Samsung Q1 Ultra and I've booted into UME using a
LiveUSB key that I created from my development target w/ Moblin Image
Creator (full mobile stack w/ proprietary, if that matters).

I'm interested in understanding better why there are some differences
between running in Xephyr and running on the Q1U. Here are some of the major
differences that I've been noticing:

1) Home screen: In Xephyr, next to the Home icon in the upper right, I see
All with no menu times below it. 14 app icons appear on the home screen.
On the Q1U, I get a dropdown menu up there, where I can select
Mobile/Internet/Games/Tools/Testing/All to filter those 14 icons to smaller
sets, or there's a Settings option that reveals 10 new icons (About
Me/Desktop Background... etc) that I didn't know existed. Why couldn't I
access this in Xephyr?

2) In Xephyr, the three games fail to load up every time. They seem to work
as intended on the Q1U. Any idea why that would be?

3) In Xephyr, once I've used ctrl+shift to grab the mouse  keyboard, I can
use alt+tab to switch apps directly in UME (totally independent of the app
switching for the parent workstation). On the Q1U, whether I've attached a
keyboard or I'm using the built-in keyboard, I apparently can't switch apps
that way. Seems odd.

Would be very interested to learn more about what's going on here.

Thanks,
Rob

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Re: test-running the UI

2008-03-19 Thread Rob Lifford
I've followed the instructions at that link (thanks for sending, Ling) but
I've hit a failure point at Step 5 (Test the target image UI on the
workstation -- which for me is the final goal, so it's not really an
optional step).

When I run ume-xephyr-start per the instructions, I get this:

==

Setting screen resolution to 1024x600
Setting DISPLAY=:0
Starting dbus
 * system message bus already started; not starting.
Starting UI in Xephyr
error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in
../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c

sh: /usr/bin/xkbcomp: not found
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing
from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from
list!
Could not init font path element
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :2.0
  after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

It appears that the UI or Xephyr did not start
Note 1: Make sure that dbus is started successfully
Note 2: Make sure you have enabled control access on DISPLAY :0
 Example (run on workstation terminal):  xhost +SI:localuser:root



OK, so Notes 1 and 2 at the end are not relevant -- the output above confims
dbus is already started; and I have run the command from Note 2 on the
workstation terminal before trying ume-xephyr-start per the instructions.

So, it seems like there are multiple other problems; where do I begin to
tackle them?

Thanks,
RL  


On 3/18/08 8:10 PM, Yu, Ling L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you are trying create a image or playing with the image creator,
 recommend you to read
 http://www.moblin.org/documentation_howto/howto_create-image.php which a
 good start point.
 
 Thanks
 - Ling
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Lifford
 Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 6:23 AM
 To: ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: test-running the UI
 
 Hi all; just joined the list as I'm eager to see what's in store with
 UME.
 
 I'm following the directions here, just hoping to test-run the UI:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/CreatingAnImageForUMEDevice
 
 It's easy to follow until I reach the Choose a Functional Set section.
 My
 issues: 
 
 1. I can't seem to find any documentation to help me choose which
 functional
 set I should choose for my purposes -- I'm fine assuming that
 samsung-full-mobile-stack, as shown in the example is most
 appropriate,
 but please correct me if I'm wrong or point me toward more info on this
 
 2. At the end of this section I come to this: ...we can use the
 Terminal
 button to open a chrooted terminal and run the hildon environment
 directly
 in a Xephyr session. How? I got Xephyr installed but I don't really
 understand its README well enough yet to know how to actually make
 UME/Hildon run in it. I'm trying to figure it out myself but hoping
 someone
 on the list can help set the context better for all this, because it's
 is
 all new stuff for me.
 
 Thanks,
 Rob
 


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