Re: Jaunty Mobile
Hi, 1) The issues that I had was that the netbook-launcher was not running in harmony with the previous mobile desktop when it upgraded, and it would keep trying to decided whether it should be in front of or behind the panels. I just uninstalled it, and things were back to normal. 2) Aside from that, I've been having many system freezes, and I'm not sure if that is related to my hardware, or the upgrade itself. My TabletPC uses the Intel 945 graphic card eGalax toucscreen The freeze never happens, unless I touch the screen a lot. If I were to plug in a mouse, then no freezes, so it seems to be related to touchscreen maybe? I guess this is a heads up for people thinking of upgrading to Jaunty. John Rudd johnk...@gmail.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 01:17 PM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:00, Ramaddan ramad...@gawab.com wrote: Hi, I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a TabletPC), What issues did it give? so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the release for yourself first before doing anything else. The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's folder. So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time. Regards, Ramaddan Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
There is no separate UMPC release for Jaunty. In many ways, the goals of the UMPC flavour were identical to the goals of the Netbook Remix, and there were several sets of instructions on partially enabling the Netbook Remix interface for the UMPC release in intrepid. During the Jaunty cycle, the code and packages previously in the Netbook Remix were brought up to date and integrated with Ubuntu, resulting in a release as a flavour of Ubuntu, rather than a derivative. Those that prefer the previous interface are probably best served by installing Desktop, and then installing the intrepid ubuntu-mobile package. I'm not sure if this works (I haven't tried it). If someone wants to take over maintenance of the settings package and associated bits to work in Karmic, that is certainly a solution, but those previously maintaining it have merged their efforts with the Netbook Remix. I have just tried the Netbook Remix via live USB. I see that *some* bugs that haunted me with UMPC and intrepid were resolved -- for example, wireless now wakes up after suspend. This is on a Samsung Q1U. To my dislike, it still did not recognize the builtin cameras, did not turn the arrow keys into scrollers (I guess I still need to set the keycodes accordingly still), touch screen calibration froze the unit, I can not find an easy way to edit and reduce the clutter of the netbook interface. I guess this mailing list may not be the right place to report these anymore? Or is it? Thanks for all your suggestions. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
If you hate the interface that NB remix has the devopers also included a way to go to the classic desktop. Then you just install the mobile package like we did before. I haven't tried it yet because of my next problem. During install after the format and organizing of the partitions it hangs on 5%. It doesn't freeze but it zips right to it and stops there is no activity on the USB so i restarted. It did it again when I selected install on the boot menu instead of try. Any one else have this hang? Or does it just take a long time on the 5 and I am being impatient. Jeff On Thursday, April 30, 2009, John Rudd johnk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 04:38, Turgut Durduran durdu...@yahoo.com wrote: There is no separate UMPC release for Jaunty. In many ways, the goals of the UMPC flavour were identical to the goals of the Netbook Remix, and there were several sets of instructions on partially enabling the Netbook Remix interface for the UMPC release in intrepid. During the Jaunty cycle, the code and packages previously in the Netbook Remix were brought up to date and integrated with Ubuntu, resulting in a release as a flavour of Ubuntu, rather than a derivative. Those that prefer the previous interface are probably best served by installing Desktop, and then installing the intrepid ubuntu-mobile package. I'm not sure if this works (I haven't tried it). If someone wants to take over maintenance of the settings package and associated bits to work in Karmic, that is certainly a solution, but those previously maintaining it have merged their efforts with the Netbook Remix. I have just tried the Netbook Remix via live USB. I see that *some* bugs that haunted me with UMPC and intrepid were resolved -- for example, wireless now wakes up after suspend. This is on a Samsung Q1U. To my dislike, it still did not recognize the builtin cameras, did not turn the arrow keys into scrollers (I guess I still need to set the keycodes accordingly still), touch screen calibration froze the unit, I can not find an easy way to edit and reduce the clutter of the netbook interface. What about screen rotation? Under Intrepeid, at least early on, it was lousy. The mouse and touch screen axes didn't properly update with the rotated screen, so pointer movement was WAY off. Have you tried screen rotation with Jaunty, on the Q1U? I think it'd be nice to do Google Reader in portrait mode, for example :-) -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
From: Jeff yam...@gmail.com To: Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com Cc: Ubuntu Mobile ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:03:05 PM Subject: Jaunty Mobile I can not find Mobile in the Jaunty folder in releases.ubuntu.com . Did it get moved? I only see NetBook Remix i am bit puzzled by this too. -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
Jeff wrote: I can not find Mobile in the Jaunty folder in releases.ubuntu.com http://releases.ubuntu.com . Did it get moved? I only see NetBook Remix There is no separate UMPC release for Jaunty. In many ways, the goals of the UMPC flavour were identical to the goals of the Netbook Remix, and there were several sets of instructions on partially enabling the Netbook Remix interface for the UMPC release in intrepid. During the Jaunty cycle, the code and packages previously in the Netbook Remix were brought up to date and integrated with Ubuntu, resulting in a release as a flavour of Ubuntu, rather than a derivative. Those that prefer the previous interface are probably best served by installing Desktop, and then installing the intrepid ubuntu-mobile package. I'm not sure if this works (I haven't tried it). If someone wants to take over maintenance of the settings package and associated bits to work in Karmic, that is certainly a solution, but those previously maintaining it have merged their efforts with the Netbook Remix. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
Hi, I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a TabletPC), so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the release for yourself first before doing anything else. The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's folder. So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time. Regards, Ramaddan Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
Hi, I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a TabletPC), so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the release for yourself first before doing anything else. The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's folder. So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time. Regards, Ramaddan Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile (correction)
Hi, Actually, there are two packages, one called ubuntu-mobile and one called ubuntu-mobile-default-settings which was not removed after upgrade to Jaunty. The ubuntu-mobile package seems to install the packages required for ubuntu-mobile, and the ubuntu-mobile-default-settings are the settings for these packages. Can anyone confirm this? I did not have time to look deeply into these packages, and sorry for the earlier double post. Thanks Ramaddan ramad...@gawab.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 12:00 PM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Hi, I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a TabletPC), so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the release for yourself first before doing anything else. The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's folder. So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time. Regards, Ramaddan Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Jaunty Mobile
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 09:00, Ramaddan ramad...@gawab.com wrote: Hi, I just upgraded, and had the dreaded netbook launcher which does not integrate well with a TabletPC (gave issues, apart from looking ugly on a TabletPC), What issues did it give? so after upgrading, I just removed the netbook-launcher package, and I was back to normal again, but as Emmet said, the best is to test the release for yourself first before doing anything else. The upgrade removed the Ubuntu-mobile package, but after removing the netbook-launcher, the settings were still there, probably in the user's folder. So I'm thinking of making a Jaunty package of ubuntu-mobile from the Intrepid package. Will see how that goes with me when I get some time. Regards, Ramaddan Emmet Hikory per...@ubuntu.com wrote on 29 Apr 2009, 10:44 AM: Subject: Re: Jaunty Mobile Turgut Durduran wrote: You might try with a live USB session first, just to see if you like it. That's the safe way to determine if something would meet your needs. I am in a very similar boat as the other poster -- using Samsung Q1U. I started with the earlier version that had the hildon desktop and really hated it (mainly because of the difficulty to switch between windows etc) and moved to the mobile and I find it quite useful. I will test the live USB session but just to confirm, I should not attempt to a distribution upgrade with my present installation.Is that accurate? I believe a distribution upgrade should mostly work. There's no special hints in update-manager to support UMPC though, so you may find the results a bit unpolished. If you're comfortable working with a package manager, then you should be able to resolve any confusion. If you're not comfortable, a fresh installation may be easier. -- Emmet HIKORY -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile --- Send big files for free. Simple steps. No registration. Visit now http://www.nawelny.com -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Jaunty Mobile
I can not find Mobile in the Jaunty folder in releases.ubuntu.com . Did it get moved? I only see NetBook Remix -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile