Reviving The MOTU-Torrent Team?

2008-08-04 Thread David Futcher
Hi all

I have posted about this on the Planet but in case anyone didn't see it I'll
post it here too.

I am attempting to revive the MOTU-Torrent team, which at the moment looks
very quiet (The only activity in #ubuntu-motu-torrent I have seen in a long
time is asac changing his nickname!). I have emailed around the old members
of the team, but haven't received any replies.

Would anyone else be interested in reviving the MOTU-Torrent team? If you
are please reply to this, or send me an email off list so we can attempt to
organise something.

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Didiwiki + Dillo + Ubuntu

2008-08-04 Thread rafmav
Didiwiki + Dillo + Ubuntu:
Didiwiki does not run well under Dillo: once a file is created or edited, Dillo
forgets to mention the file name with Dillo; then, every time Dillo edits the
default page WikiHome instead of the given page; example:
with Dillo: http://localhost:3000/?edit
with Firefox: http://localhost:3000/Essai?edit

Configuration
Linux laptop 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008 i686
GNU/Linux
Ubuntu hardy
Dillo 0.8.6-i18n-misc
didiwiki 0.5-5 (hardy)

I regret it because both are small, simple and easy to use.

PS: also, the copy-paste and print functions miss under Dillo: do you think
these will be add in the close future ?

Thanks.


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GEOS 2.2.3-4 Ubuntu. PostGIS 1.3 is cited as needing GEOS 3.0.

2008-08-04 Thread barney holmes
Hello,

(Note: please CC replies to me as I am unsure how to join the list at the 
moment).

I have GeoServer 1.6.4 setup on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04.1. 

It can connect to a PostgreSQL / PostGIS 1.3 database, with GEOS 2.2.3, but 
fails to be able to access spatially enabled columns.

According to the PostGIS documentation webpage ( 
http://postgis.refractions.net/documentation/ ) PostGIS requires GEOS 3.0.

As mentioned in the GeoServer FAQ, GeoServer may hang if PostGIS does not have 
GEOS installed (see 
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOSDOC/GeoServer+hangs+when+requesting+from+a+PostGIS+data+store
 ). This is the behaviour I get, which would make sense as I only have the 
below recommended 2.2.3 version.

I am reluctant to jump into compiling such a complex system unless I really 
have to. Are there plans to release the GEOS 3.0 library for Ubuntu ? If I know 
it's coming along then I can plan around this and do other things in the 
meantime.

Thanks

BTW this is for the Space Data Wiki project ( 
http://spacedatawiki.sourceforge.net/ ).

DJ Barney



Portal, SpaceDataWiki: SourceForge Project.


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Re: bash vs dash

2008-08-04 Thread Jiafu Gao
Thanks for the those who offered helps. I found the following link that is very 
helpful:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_shells
Note that there is only ash, not dash in the list. Since dash comes from ash, I 
assume the features for them are the same.

I really like the lightweightness of dash on PS3. However, I missed these 
features in bash (in order of importance):
  1) command line editing
  2) tab completion
  3) command history
  4) customized prompt

If we can get these features add to dash with minimal impact on its 
compactness, I will be a happy dash user, and I believe more users will be less 
dash-resistance.

As for 1), this is from the manual page:
   -V vi' Enable the built-in vi(1) command line editor (disables -E if it has 
been set). 
I am not sure it means for command line editing. Anyway, I could not get it 
work.

As for 4), dash actually has some limited support in the form of env variable 
PS1. I've written a small program (bashps - bash style prompt string) to make 
it possible to use bash style prompt (such as '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ') in 
dash without any change to dash itself. Just run the following command:
   export PS1 = $(bashps '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ')

If any one has any smart idea to add 2), 3) to dash without change to dash or 
with minimal change (in term code size), I will be happy to hear.

Best regards,

Jiafu
   



- Original Message 
From: John Dong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jiafu Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 8:26:05 PM
Subject: Re: bash vs dash


dash is a minimal shell that is primarily meant to meet POSIX bourne shell 
standards (i.e. BSD's /bin/sh). It doesn't support autocompletion or command 
history.


On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Jiafu Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, 

I am trying to find out the feature differenece between bash and dash. The 
internet does not help much. man dash goes to manual page for sh. Is this 
information available at all? 

Specifically, I like to know if dash support: 
  1) autocompletion (of command)
  2) command history

Thanks for any help.

Jiafu


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Re: pbuilder twice in a row option

2008-08-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 04:11:13PM -0400, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote:
   I've just write a --build-twice-in-a-row feature for pbuilder that
 allows pbuilder users to test if clean work as expected and i need some
 testing, so far i have test it and it's working, but i will prefer to
 have a second (or more) opinions on the feature. The new package can be
 downloaded from my ppa [1], and i will appreciate really much that you
 test it and send me some suggestions/comments.
   Thanks in advance!
 1. https://edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/+archive

Nice work.  Is it coincidental that this is one of Debian's release goals
for Lenny?

I'm sure Debian developers would appreciate the patches to find and fix
these bugs.

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Re: bash vs dash

2008-08-04 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Jiafu Gao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I really like the lightweightness of dash on PS3. However, I missed these
 features in bash (in order of importance):
   1) command line editing
   2) tab completion
   3) command history
   4) customized prompt

how about installing both, and use dash for non-interactive purposes and
bash for interactive sessions? at least that's the default in ubuntu.

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Re: pbuilder twice in a row option

2008-08-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:16:07 +0100 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 04:11:13PM -0400, Nicolas Valcarcel wrote:
  I've just write a --build-twice-in-a-row feature for pbuilder that
 allows pbuilder users to test if clean work as expected and i need some
 testing, so far i have test it and it's working, but i will prefer to
 have a second (or more) opinions on the feature. The new package can be
 downloaded from my ppa [1], and i will appreciate really much that you
 test it and send me some suggestions/comments.
  Thanks in advance!
 1. https://edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/+archive

Nice work.  Is it coincidental that this is one of Debian's release goals
for Lenny?

No. It's not.  I came up with the idea working on a package for Lenny and 
being frustrated with my normal pbuilder oriented workflow not dealing with 
this well.  I filed a wishlist bug and nxvl took it up.

I'm sure Debian developers would appreciate the patches to find and fix
these bugs.

He's already sent the patch to Debian's BTS.

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Re: pbuilder twice in a row option

2008-08-04 Thread Daniel Holbach
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Scott Kitterman schrieb:
 On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:16:07 +0100 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm sure Debian developers would appreciate the patches to find and fix
 these bugs.
 
 He's already sent the patch to Debian's BTS.

Scott: I think you're talking about
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=493538 - Matt was
talking about fixes to the packages that don't build properly twice in a
row.

Have a nice day,
 Daniel

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Re: pbuilder twice in a row option

2008-08-04 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 07:01:09PM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote:
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 Scott Kitterman schrieb:
  On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:16:07 +0100 Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm sure Debian developers would appreciate the patches to find and fix
  these bugs.
  
  He's already sent the patch to Debian's BTS.
 
 Scott: I think you're talking about
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=493538 - Matt was
 talking about fixes to the packages that don't build properly twice in a
 row.

Indeed, that's the find part.  Folks who use the tool should remember to
submit the bugs as well (the fix part) and tag them appropriately per the
Lenny release goal list.

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Re: SRU: please take a look at bug 241402

2008-08-04 Thread Luca Falavigna
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Michael Haas ha scritto:
 This is the first time I'm filing an SRU request which closes multiple
 bugs. The wiki page doesn't give clear instructions so I hope what I did
 was OK :)

Having a SRU fixing multiple bugs is OK, given that you provide a
detailed test case for each of them. You did it very well, great job!

I'm not sure about having up-to-date translations, though. We usually
bring in bugfixes, and updating translations is not commonly a bugfix,
unless there are valid reasons to do so. I'd like to hear from other
motu-sru members about this as much as Martin's thoughts.

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Re: Reviving The MOTU-Torrent Team?

2008-08-04 Thread David Futcher
Ok, Pedro Fragoso (ember) has also expressed interest in helping and I think
three members will do nicely (though anyone else is very welcome!). I'll
ping you all around this time next month to properly kick start things.

Thanks alot,

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2008/8/5 John Dong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi David,

 I was the last active member of the MOTU-Torrent/MOTU-P2P team and am still
 interested in keeping it up. Unfortunately, the way my summer is working
 out, I have had to suspend most of my Ubuntu work until school starts up
 (beginning of September). If it's possible to wait until that point, I'd be
 strongly interested in working with you to make sure MOTU-Torrent becomes
 active and self-sustaining.

 Kind regards,

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Re: Reviving The MOTU-Torrent Team?

2008-08-04 Thread John Dong
Thanks for your enthusiasm, David. I look forward to getting down to work on
this!

P.S. Apologies for the lack of response to your original e-mail; I read it
but tried to restrain myself from replying because replying to one Ubuntu
e-mail tends to suck me right back into the project, which would not be
great for my well-being at the moment!


John

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM, David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Ok, Pedro Fragoso (ember) has also expressed interest in helping and I
 think three members will do nicely (though anyone else is very welcome!).
 I'll ping you all around this time next month to properly kick start things.

 Thanks alot,

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 http://www.bobbo.me.uk
 http://www.launchpad.net/~bobbo http://www.launchpad.net/%7Ebobbo


 2008/8/5 John Dong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi David,

 I was the last active member of the MOTU-Torrent/MOTU-P2P team and am
 still interested in keeping it up. Unfortunately, the way my summer is
 working out, I have had to suspend most of my Ubuntu work until school
 starts up (beginning of September). If it's possible to wait until that
 point, I'd be strongly interested in working with you to make sure
 MOTU-Torrent becomes active and self-sustaining.

 Kind regards,

 John





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libsyck0-dev

2008-08-04 Thread Alex Norman
Hi, I'm developing some code with libsyck but I'm using C++, one issue with the
way that the package is built is that one cannot throw a c++ exception in the
syck error handlers and recover in the c++ code.  

Basically what happens is that if you throw an exception in the error handler
(which is called by C code) you cannot catch it in a c++ try{} block, and so
your application will terminate.

If libsyck is built with -fexceptions then this problem is solved [and it only
adds 5k to the size of the binary].

I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to build the package with this option?

-Alex


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Re: sync request sponsorship

2008-08-04 Thread Nicolas Valcarcel
That sounds pretty fair to me. It was just an idea, but now thinking it
better and reading this arguments i'm convinced it's not a good one :D
Thank you for your time and responses.

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:01 +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote:
 Nicolas Valcarcel wrote:
 Now that we have the uuc team up and running, wouldn't it be a
  good idea that uuc members can ACK sync requests, since they are
  supposed to be experienced contributors and should be capable to make
  sync requests by their own?
 
 No.  There is little difference between a manual upload and a
 sync, other than the mechanism by which the changes come to the
 repository, and as such the same criteria for determining whether
 someone can upload to the archive ought be applied.  As there is no
 technical review involved in an application to UUC, there is no
 certain knowledge that any given applicant has the necessary technical
 skills to be trusted with a sync request (or indeed, any sort of
 upload).
 
 Rather than change the permission structure of uploads, I'd rather
 encourage those that have the requisite technical skills to apply for
 MOTU: that results in review by both current MOTU and MOTU Council
 review, and is likely to help identify those who ought be able to
 commit to the archive directly.
 
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