Fw: [ubuntu/karmic] source-highlight-qt 0.1-0ubuntu1 (New)

2009-08-09 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
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To: Cesare Tirabassi cesare.tiraba...@gmail.com
Subject: [ubuntu/karmic] source-highlight-qt 0.1-0ubuntu1 (New)


NEW: source-highlight-qt_0.1.orig.tar.gz
NEW: source-highlight-qt_0.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
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source-highlight-qt (0.1-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * Initial release (LP: #407896).

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Architecture: source
Version: 0.1-0ubuntu1
Distribution: karmic
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Cesare Tirabassi norse...@ubuntu.com
Changed-By: Cesare Tirabassi norse...@ubuntu.com
Description: 
 libsource-highlight-qt4-1 - Syntax highlighting library for Qt (shared library)
 libsource-highlight-qt4-dev - Syntax highlighting library for Qt (development 
files)
 libsource-highlight-qt4-doc - Syntax highlighting library for Qt (API 
documentation)
Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 407896
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Re: RFS: smplayer (updated package)

2009-04-21 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:02:58 +0200
Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org wrote:

 
 Maia Kozheva inetper...@gmail.com writes:
 
  - It does no harm in Debian as it is, except for debcheck warnings.
  - mplayer-nogui is available in Ubuntu, and I would rather keep the
  same package in Debian and Ubuntu.
  - mplayer-nogui is available in debian-multimedia.org, which many
  Debian users install mplayer from for extra patent-restricted
  codecs.
  - There is a bug report (#523842) in Debian itself to add an
  mplayer-nogui package, confirmed by one of the maintainers, so I
  presume an mplayer-nogui package may appear in Debian soon.
 
 I think we really should replace the mplayer package from multiverse
 with the package currently in debian/main.
 

Since we are on the subject, I'd rather have an mplayer package without
gui (gmplayer is buggy/obsolete and unmaintained, mplayer upstream are
actually recommending it to not be distributed) and, if really
necessary, have an mplayer-gui (or gmplayer) package with the gui alone.
With the excellent stand-alone gui's we have today (smplayer, kmplayer,
gnome-mplayer) this is what makes the most sense.

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Re: When does MOTU Release need to start approving every upload ...

2008-10-16 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:17:35 -0400
Scott Kitterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Based on:
 
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-April/025259.html
 
 One might think it's now, but I propose this not start until the last
 week before release (i.e. one more week from now).  

+1, one week before release is more than reasonable.

C.

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Re: PackagesToPort

2008-09-29 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Monday 29 September 2008 11:37:37 James Westby wrote:
I decided to start a wiki page to track the packages that need porting from
Debian. 

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/PackagesToPort

Perhaps is worth adding a link here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO

?

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Re: PackagesToPort

2008-09-29 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Monday 29 September 2008 11:47:22 Cesare Tirabassi wrote:
 On Monday 29 September 2008 11:37:37 James Westby wrote:
 I decided to start a wiki page to track the packages that need porting
  from Debian.
 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/PackagesToPort

 Perhaps is worth adding a link here:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO

 ?

 Cesare

Yes, it was since you added it already :-).

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Change in the MOTU reception

2008-09-10 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

Now that the transition is over, the new program is shaping up nicely, and we 
have new active people helping with the reception, I would like to leave the 
role of coordinating the mentoring activities to Christophe Sauthier (huats).
You should all know Christophe, he is an active and eager community member, 
and I'm sure that in his capable hands the mentoring program will achieve 
even greater results. Please, give him a warm welcome (he needs it ;-)).

Let me take the opportunity to thank from my heart all mentors that have 
dedicated their time and energy helping our community to grow, and all the 
reception members for making one of the best teams I ever had the pleasure to 
work with!

Cesare

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Re: pbuilder question

2008-09-08 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Monday 08 September 2008 18:35:18 Charliej wrote:
 I am trying to setup pbuilder to use the B91dpkg-i hook to test install
 my package but I seem to be having a little problem.  As you can tell
 from the snippet below the build completed successfully but when dpkg -i
 is run it complains of a dependency problem.   I thought that
 dependencies where checked and satisfied in the first part of the build
 process?

Build-dependencies, not run-time ones.

 Shouldn't these dependencies still be present in the chroot 
 when dpkg-i is called?  Any pointers here would be greatly appreciated.

You may try to add an apt-get -f install in the script (after the dpkg -i 
call). This should force all run-time dependencies to be installed.

Cesare

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kdesu for kde4

2008-09-07 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
A quickie for all Kubunteros out there.
I read that /usr/bin/kdesu in kde4 is obsoleted.
For Intrepid, should applications that rely on it be patched to rely 
on /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu or on /usr/bin/kdesudo or is there some 
mechanism in place that won't break backward compatibility?
Will existing su-to-root (that uses /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu) work or will 
it need patching for Ubuntu?
Existing docs I could find on the subject are not very clear:

LP bugs: 179495, 184491, 197404
http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3095801.0
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HaraldSitter/KdeFour/KdeSudo

Cesare

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Re: Standing Freeze exception for emacs-snapshot

2008-09-03 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 03 September 2008 10:46:09 Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 Stefan Potyra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Standing freeze exceptions:
  To request a standing freeze exception, an email should be sent to the
  Ubuntu MOTU mailing list for discussions. It is granted, once three
  members of motu- release have given their ACK.

 I'd like to request a standing freeze exception for emacs-snapshot.

 The only point of the package is to ship a development snapshot of the
 current emacs trunk branch.

 We had such a freeze exception in the past, I'm requesting it for
 intrepid again just to be sure.

 --
 Gruesse/greetings,
 Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4

I'm surprised that there are so many packages that depend on binaries of 
emacs-snapshot, but after checking some samples I believe them to be all 
or'ed with emacs?
Out of curiosity, how exactly is your workflow?
From https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive seems like Romain is doing 
the Debian packaging and Reinhard pushes them to the archive?
In any case, the request looks reasonable to me, +1.

Cesare

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Please add Luca Falavigna as a member of motu-release

2008-09-03 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
In line with current team policy [1], 
following Luca's application [2], sent on Wed Aug 27 13:51:37 BST 2008,
considering the positive advocations [3][4][5] received,
in the absence of any concern having been raised,
considering that 168 hours have elapsed,

Luca application should be considered accepted.

I urge the team owner to formally add Luca Falavigna, aka Dktrkranz, as a 
motu-release team member asap.

Thanks,

Cesare
[1]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Teams/KeyTeamPolicy
[2]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004573.html
[3]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004574.html
[4]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004579.html
[5]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004622.html

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I cannot continue with Ubuntu development using LP

2008-08-28 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
The recent LP changes for the worst I can still cope with, the switch to 
OpenID which stops me from being able to edit any wiki page anymore I can 
still abide, but the recent change of font size is too much for me:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/262166

Please tell me that this is not LP faults and that there is a simple way to 
solve this problem as this makes LP totally unusable for me.
Until this is (hopefully) solved, I will be unable to do any development using 
LP.

Cesare

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Re: motu-release needs you

2008-08-27 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 15:59:37 Stefan Potyra wrote:
 Hi,

 On Wednesday 27 August 2008 14:51:37 Luca Falavigna wrote:
  Stefan Potyra ha scritto:
   motu-release is short one member, please apply here
 
  If nobody nominates, I'd like to apply.

 Excellent! I hereby advocate your application.

 Cheers,
 Stefan.

A definite +1 from me too. Luca will be a great addition to the team.

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Re: motu-sru renewal? (was: Stepping down from MOTU SRU)

2008-08-06 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 11:51:08 Luca Falavigna wrote:
 motu-sru limits to Cody and me, actually.

 Even if SRU work is smaller now if compared to the days following Hardy
 release, there are some requests which need to be reviewed.

If there is a dare need for help, count me in.

Cesare



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Re: pbuilder twice in a row option

2008-08-03 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 03 August 2008 22:11:13 Nicolas Valcarcel wrote:
 Hi!
   I've just write a --build-twice-in-a-row feature for pbuilder that
 allows pbuilder users to test if clean work as expected and i need some
 testing, so far i have test it and it's working, but i will prefer to
 have a second (or more) opinions on the feature. The new package can be
 downloaded from my ppa [1], and i will appreciate really much that you
 test it and send me some suggestions/comments.
   Thanks in advance!
 1. https://edge.launchpad.net/~nvalcarcel/+archive

You may also just want to use a hook for this.
A B hook (see man pbuilder) will be run once the build is finished 
successfully, before copying back  the build result.
You can simply rerun the build here and check if it fails.

Cesare

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Re: Proposed Features for Launchpad Bugs 3.0 - call for help!

2008-08-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Friday 01 August 2008 09:28:49 you wrote:

The most important from me is not on the list, and that would be to have the 
source package information back on the bug page (as it was before).
Its pretty annoying having to change to other pages just to see if that 
package is in universe or not, what is the current version and who uploaded 
it last.

For this:

 ||   || bug imports || Enabling complete syncs from plugin-enabled sites ||

If that means the ability for MOTU to manually sync, than this is a 15, 
otherwise what the heck is this?

All the others I don't really care about; they are mostly annoying things lost 
in a sea of annoying things (which to me is a clear sign that they have no 
clue about what is really important in a distro bug tracker from a developer 
pov).

 Thank you for you collaboration!

My pleasure,

Cesare

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Re: Proposed Features for Launchpad Bugs 3.0 - call for help!

2008-08-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Friday 01 August 2008 12:50:29 you wrote:
 Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This sounds rather like a bug than a spec to me. Is there already a
 bugnumber for it? If not, can you please file a bug and tell me the number?

I have no idea if there is a bug already filed for this. Manually scanning 
1200+ bugs is not an option and, as you know, searching for bugs containing 
keywords (I tried source with/without info and couldn't get anywhere) never 
works for me (usually, I can find more relevant LP bugs via google than via 
LP itself).
Assuming there isn't, I will file one and let you have the bug number.
Note that wgrant pointed out to me that there are now tooltips to give some of 
this information (thanks wgrant), but in my opinion this is just a 
palliative. When I actually need to use this info what should I do, write it 
down on a piece of paper? And the tooltip disappear anyway after few seconds.

 As far as I understand it, you can say here is a bug in debbugs, it
 also affects ubuntu, please import all comments, status, etc from
 debbugs to launchpad and auto create a 'forwarded bugtask'.

OK, don't, please don't. The way I understand it this is likely to create more 
confusion than solve any real issue.

 The best we can do is to document (using bug numbers) and group (using
 tags) the annoying things. This is work, obviously, but I don't see
 another way how to get further on this issue.

From my own experience, raising bugs in LP about LP is as much effective as 
trying to empty the ocean with a (leaking) bucket.
IMHO adding the homepage in the source package info would be a big help 
(assuming we can get that back to the bug page). When I need to check 
upstream (maybe its an update, maybe to see if a bug has been filed already 
there or fixed in their VCS) the only solution that I know of to do it 
through LP is to gunzip the diff.gz. Again, I could not find if such a 
request was filed already and knowing that the effect of raising such bugs 
tends to zero I was never motivated to do it myself (beside, I just use 
apt-cache).
Now you tell me we should do it, fine, I will, and let me see how far we go 
with these.

Cesare

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Fwd: [Motu-mentoring-reception] Minutes of the Meeting of the Motu Mentoring Reception of the 31/07/2007

2008-08-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
We believe that issues discussed during the Mentoring Reception meetings (held 
at 1 month interval) are potentially of interest to the whole community.
We have therefore decided to circulate minutes through the ubuntu-motu and 
ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing lists.
Please let us know if you think this is not appropriate.

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MOTU Mentoring Reception Meeting

Place : #ubuntu-meeting

Participants from the mentoring reception team:
Cesare Tirabassi (norsetto)
Charlie Smotherman (porthose)
Christophe Sauthier (huats)

Absent:
Nicolas Valcárcel (Nxvl) (Holidays)

Additional attenders:
Sarah Hobbs (Hobbsee)
James Westby (james_w)
Raphaël Pinson (raphink)
Nathan Handler (nhandler)
Colin Watson (cjwatson)


Agenda :

1. Status of new requests
=
The current list :
• hanno should be ready to be mentored; porthose will ping him.
• james d carroll will be contacted by porthose. The email regarding
his request can be found here :
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-July/004231.html
• James Emerson request is being dealt with by nxvl (which is currently on 
holidays).


2. Status of mentors
==
After many ping on IRC, huats has not been able to talk with slomo
and jcorbier. For the time being, they will removed from the mentor list.
raphink was at the meeting and confirmed that he is still happy to
be mentoring senior contributors. Since he was not completely comfortable with 
the new process, it sounds as some motus are not yet aware of the change.


3. Recruitment of new mentors

How to recruit more mentors ? Right now norsetto is contacting every
new u-u-c and MOTU explaining them the mentoring process. nhandler
proposes to introduce a kind of reward/privilege for mentors, but
norsetto and huats wonder about its do-ability (shirts ?)
It has been pointed out that mentoring is considered a credit for motuship
or for core dev application.
Anyway mentoring should not be compulsory, and is up to the will of concerned 
persons if and how they would like to help contributors.


4. Transition to new program
===
The status of the remaining mentors/mentees from the old process is :
• dholbach is on holidays and huats has applied to u-u-c
• asac is working well with jazzva and dfiloni
• jr is working with Lydia Pintscher
• huats to contact TheMuso to know more about the mentoring of AstralJava


5. Mailing list
=
No news from rt since the request 9 days ago. Our private ML seems to
be working well so far.
Hobbsee said that TB recommends strongly that ubuntu ML go to
lists.ubuntu.com, and thus to contact jcastro and to fill a request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] norsetto confirms that this is what has been done
already.


6. Interface with MOTU school

james_w is running the school all alone, so he wouldn't mind a little help to 
get new lecturers since this is the current important matter.
Once again norsetto proposed to send an email to every u-u-c and new
MOTU to incite them to go forward. It has also been proposed to send
an email to mentors and mentees asking them what they think they need
to help them (for mentee), and what is missing to their mentee (for
mentors). Norsetto will deal with that mail.


Actions from this meeting:
=
porthose to contact hanno and james d caroll, to find a matching mentor.
huats to contact slomo and jcorbier to know their intention about mentoring.
huats to contact TheMuso to know more about his current mentoring of 
AstralJava
norsetto to send an email to ask mentors and mentees what lectures
they think should be given in the classroom.
norsetto to send an email to encourage u-u-c and motu to participate
as lecturers in classroom.

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New model for the mentoring program

2008-07-15 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

the current mentoring program has been in place for about one year.

During this time several shortcomings of this model have become evident, 
especially as the number of new contributors grow. The alternative sponsoring 
model is also felt quite inadequate, especially for new contributors and 
contributors which are on their way to motuship. 

What is evident today, is that: 

- Some MOTU have weaknesses in certain skill areas 
- Those potential contributors who are not self-starters aren't getting
  started 
- There is an insufficient number of volunteers to act as Mentors
- There is an insufficient number of volunteers to teach MOTU School classes
- Many existing contributors have difficulty reaching a sufficient skill level
  to apply for MOTU 

With the introduction of the ubuntu-universe-contributors team, it is finally 
time that we implement the new structure, as we already discussed in [1] and 
[2].

Our proposal is to split the Mentoring program into two parts:

- a program to help new contributors who wish personal attention when starting
- a program to help established contributors who wish personal guidance when
  applying for motuship

Furthermore, stronger ties with the current MOTU School program will be 
established.
All participants in the Mentoring program will be expected to attend MOTU 
School sessions, and those not in regular attendance may no longer be 
eligible for Mentoring.
All contributors alike are expected to take an active role in preparing and 
giving sessions on fields where they are particularly experienced, as well as 
in general QA sessions.

The new program is detailed in:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Mentoring/NewModel

Before finally implementing this change, we would like to hear from you, MOTU 
and contributors alike, if you have any remaining objections or comment.

Cesare

[1]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mentors/2007-October/000153.html
[2]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-November/002728.html

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Re: motu-release

2008-06-29 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Saturday 28 June 2008 00:08:20 Stefan Potyra wrote:

 Subquestions are: what do you (members of motu-release) would like to add,
 what did you observer generally in regards to motu-release, what to
 improve?

One thing that irked me, and I would really do something about for Intrepid, 
was the fact that two positive votes are enough to approve any FFe, no matter 
if 3 out of 5 members are against it.
I would definitively change this to a majority vote. The problem is that with 
the current number of members this would require 3/5 to pass which might not 
be attainable in a reasonable amount of time.
Reducing the number of members to 3 (and therefore having 2/3 to pass) doesn't 
seem a good idea too.
So, I'd propose a +2 in a (insert a reasonable amount of time here, 2 days 
since the date a _valid_ request was filed seems reasonable to me) ? The 
obvious drawback is that no FFe can be approved before the 2 days elapse, in 
my view a reasonable price to pay.

An alternative would be to have a veto system, in which any member can stop 
the regular process by simply objecting (obviously with reasonable arguments) 
against the FFe. In this case the FFe will not be approved until the required 
majority is obtained.

I'd also discourage the practice of accepting an FFe on the base of a short 
IRC chat without apparently any research on the implications and background 
of the request.
We have an FFe process so lets make the best use of it (accepting an FFe 
because your buddy is asking you to do it on IRC, or because somebody you 
trust is telling you that it will be good to have that package, are not, in 
my humble view, good reasons to accept an FFe).

Finally, I always found a nonsense that we have a rather strict system until 
few days before release and then exactly when we should really tighten the 
tap, we relax all requirements (its enough to have one IRC approval without 
sometime even filing a request).

Cesare



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Re: Getting Packages Updated

2008-06-26 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Thursday 26 June 2008 16:29:21 Null Ack wrote:

 My apologies for asking what seem's like a basic question but how does
 a user go about requesting that a package get updated?

Your email is a bit confused, but I guess you want to know about backports:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports

 I especially consider mplayer, gnome-player and x264 to be a special
 case where SVN builds do not pose any real risk to being backported
 into released Ubuntu revisions.

About gnome-mplayer, there is absolutely no risk in backporting the 
development release to the stable release (I'm actually running 0.6.2 on 
gutsy).
Its not done so far simply because nobody bothered to take the time and 
actually ask for it.

HTH,

Cesare


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Re: Problems building R package from Intrepid for Hardy

2008-06-23 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 22 June 2008 22:49:08 Paul Johnson wrote:
 In Hardy, we have R-2.6.2, but some R packages can't be used unless R is
 upgraded.   I did not find any installable deb intended for Hardy
 systems, and decided to try to build.

There are non-official Ubuntu binary packages made for 2.7.0 by Vincent Goulet 
and Michael Rutter. They are based on the official Debian packages from Dirk 
Eddelbuettel and Doug Bates.
You can find them here:

http://cran.r-project.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/

Note that it is in general a bad idea to mix different builds of r-cran-* so 
try to stick to 2.6.2 or 2.7.0 only.

If you have any problems with these packages, please report them here:

https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-debian

In case you still want to build from source, I highly suggest you use these 
scripts:

https://vgoulet.act.ulaval.ca/svn/R/cran-ubuntu/

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Re: motu-release

2008-06-17 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 13:59:04 Stefan Potyra wrote:

 since there has been no response so far, let's try the other way round:
 Cesare, Luke, Sarah, Scott: Are you up for intrepid as well?

If there is somebody else that wants to step in I'll be happy to stand aside, 
otherwise I´ll be happy to serve for Intrepid.

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motu-sru extension

2008-06-03 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear MC,

please set up polls for extending motu-sru/replacing retired members [1].
Daniel, maybe you'd also like to transfer team ownership to MC (see [2]).

Candidates:
Stephan Hermann [3]
Scott Kitterman [4]
Cody A.W. Somerville [5]

looks, like we need two members (follow-ups to [1]), but that might be
subject to discussion. 

Can I propose to extend the numbers of members in the motu-sru team to 6?
Unless somebody objects we can have a full team up and running again in no 
time, with plenty of enthusiasts ready to process all our SRU to everybody's 
satisfaction.

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Can we have a source package in multiverse with a binary package in universe (Was: mplayer should be moved to universe)?

2008-06-02 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
 Consider the case that a ubuntu derivative (xubuntu, mythubuntu, etc)
 decides to include the mplayer binary package on their live cd. They would
 still be required to provide and offer the source package to all software on
 (in most cases a seperate) CD. This can become pretty delicate, since now
 the CD will contain stuff from multiverse, which is known to be very
 problematic (at best). 

I don't know either what the implications of having a source in multiverse and 
a binary in universe are, or if it is at all possible. I'm cc'ing this to 
ubuntu-devel, just in case somebody wants to enlighten us.

But for this example, I don't really see a problem:

Why would a derivative be obliged to offer sources on a CD!?
What would be different from today, with mplayer on multiverse? For what I 
know, mythubuntu has it on its CD (as many other multiverse packages, mythtv 
and its depends are all in multiverse).

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Re: mplayer should be moved to universe

2008-06-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 01 June 2008 04:15:12 Stefan Potyra wrote:

 hm... if only patent issues are a problem, I'd like to know what patents
 can actually cover. If patents only limit usage, but not distribution, I
 see no problems with putting mplayer sources in universe, and building
 binary mencoder packages in multiverse. Can someone clarify this?

A quick check with apt-cache shows the following mplayer bd to be in 
multiverse (because of mencoder):

em8300-headers
libfaac-dev
liblame-dev
libx264-dev
libxvidcore4-dev

I have not checked them all in detail, but I have the impression they are in 
multiverse because they (directly or through bd/d) either contain 
microcode/firmware or use patented algorithms (at least  patented in some 
countries).

What these patents (or claimed patents) cover or not is a very good question  
for which I could not find an easy and clear answer, at least from this 
example for MP3 (see Licensing and patent issues):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3

If a source in universe can bd on multiverse and have binaries in multiverse 
then yes, the easy solution would be to just have mencoder in multiverse.
If not I don't see how to possibly solve this beside:

1) following Debian by disabling mencoder, which doesn't seem to be wished by 
seeing posts in this thread and reactions on IRC

2) having two different source packages (which, quite frankly, doesn't seem 
feasible from a maintenability pov).

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Re: SUSPECT: Re: mplayer should be moved to universe

2008-06-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 01 June 2008 12:12:33 Cesare Tirabassi wrote:

 1) following Debian by disabling mencoder, which doesn't seem to be wished
 by seeing posts in this thread and reactions on IRC

 2) having two different source packages (which, quite frankly, doesn't seem
 feasible from a maintenability pov).

I forgot 3) which perhaps could be investigated further:

3) having the mplayer source in multiverse producing an mplayer (and 
mplayer-nogui) binary packages in universe and an mencoder binary package in 
multiverse.

Note that currently mplayer has the following deps in multiverse:

liblame0
libx264-57
libxvidcore4
mplayer-skins

I guess thats mainly a dpkg-shlibdeps artifact but for mplayer-skins 
(copyrighted art?). mplayer-skins is obviously not a dep of mplayer-nogui.

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mplayer should be moved to universe

2008-05-30 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

bug 214727 
(https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/%2Bsource/mplayer/%2Bbug/214727) has 
been raised on the subject.
mplayer is a direct rdepend for many packages, and indirect for I guess many 
others.
Your help on this would be appreciated, please check if there are missing 
packages that should be part of the change, or mark invalid those which 
should not be part of it (either because of license or dependencies reasons).

Many thanks for your help,

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Re: mplayer should be moved to universe

2008-05-30 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Friday 30 May 2008 15:32:22 you wrote:
 Mplayer decodes H.264 and other MPEG-4 type content, and also contains the
 same core codebase as mencoder which encodes to said format. From what I
 understand, that means we cannot put mplayer in multiverse.

 If this is incorrect, then I would like x264, xvidcore, and friends out
 into universe too :)

Yes, apologies to all concerned for the noise. We are now back to our regular 
transmissions.

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Re: sabbatical

2008-05-15 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
It has really come to my attention that I need to have a sabbatical time
away from Ubuntu development.

As much as I regret this decision, I understand this is for your good. I'm 
looking forward to see you back with us (I'm sure it will be soon).

Good luck Dr. Mantha!

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r-base transition

2008-04-18 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

as some of you already know, we have completed recently the gfortran 
transition. One of the libraries involved was r-base, which now doesn't 
provide anymore libRblas.so (uses the blas one instead). Unfortunately quite 
a number of packages have been built already with the older version and are 
now broken (see for instance LP bug 217742 and bug 219245). A quick search 
with apt-cache shows the following R libraries (from packages depending on 
r-base-core) still linking against libRblas.so:

/usr/lib/R/site-library/eco/libs/eco.so:libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fArma/libs/fArma.so:libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fAsianOptions/libs/fAsianOptions.so:libRblas.so = 
not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fGarch/libs/fGarch.so:  libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fNonlinear/libs/fNonlinear.so:  libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fOptions/libs/fOptions.so:  libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fRegression/libs/fRegression.so:libRblas.so = 
not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/fUnitRoots/libs/fUnitRoots.so:  libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/lme4/libs/lme4.so:  libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/Matrix/libs/Matrix.so:  libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/MNP/libs/MNP.so:libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/polspline/libs/polspline.so:libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/qtl/libs/qtl.so:libRblas.so = not found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/quadprog/libs/quadprog.so:  libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/robustbase/libs/robustbase.so:  libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/site-library/tseries/libs/tseries.so:libRblas.so = not 
found
/usr/lib/R/library/mgcv/libs/mgcv.so:   libRblas.so = not found

Any volunteer to help to manually upload all the rebuild patches will be 
highly welcome.
Please coordinate your work through bug 219346 
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/219346).

Thanks,

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Re: NEW Packages process

2008-04-16 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 11:38:19 Stefan Potyra wrote:

 
  I propose the following changes:
   1) cut down the requirement to one ACK of a ubuntu-dev member

 I don't think, that's a good idea.

I'm with Stefan here, from personal experience as a packager and reviewer one 
ACK is almost never enough; I know that I want somebody else reviewing my 
packages (still, there are always things to correct once they hit the 
archive).
If the purpose of this proposal is to reduce the idle time for new packages in 
the REVU queue than I think there are better ways, the best imho would be to 
make it more attractive for devs to actually review new packages.
It takes an awful lot of time to properly review these packages (most often 
than not as much as making them from scratch), and this is not recognised in 
any way.

   2) requirement for the person who packaged the new software to become
  bug contact

 Yes, that sounds very good!


I thought that was the norm ...

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Re: NEW Packages process

2008-04-16 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 16 April 2008 13:28:20 Daniel Holbach wrote:

 How do we justify this needs two reviewers - we don't trust one of them
 to do it right? 

 It all boils down to the question: Why don't we trust one MOTU to get
 it right?

Its not a question of trust, its a question that 4 eyes see better than 2. I 
know I don't rely on my packaging skills alone, no matter how much I work I 
will always miss something.

 Is the quality of packaging our main concern?

Definitively.

 Please decide on your own how common a situation like this is on REVU:
  - comment by a MOTU: Could you add a watch file? Please move Homepage
 URL to its own Homepage field., no ACK
  - two weeks of inactivity
  - upload archived
  - some days later: new upload fixing the issues
  - ...
  - maybe an ACK, maybe not

Very good example, and a showcase of why devs are not very keen in reviewing.
First, the contributor missed even the more fundamentals of a package (other 
examples are native packages which are not, wrong standards, wrong 
distribution, etc.), so the reviewer instead of spending a whole morning 
reviewing the package just points out the more obvious (I would and never 
have done this by the way, this is a side product of having one reviewer 
trying to triage a long queue). Even then the contributor waits two weeks 
to make a fix which just takes 5 minutes at the most. Is he really interested 
in packaging? If I were the reviewer I don't think I will want to spend my 
time in reviewing things that will eventually just get thrown out of the 
window.

By the way, how will lowering the required acks to one solve the above 
example?

 I'm convinced that fixes (fixing the Homepage field, bumping up the
 Standards-Version, etc) above are written quickly once the package is in
 the archive and should not block an upload.

Should I ack a package that I know doesn't meet the required standards? I, for 
one, will not want to see Universe become another automatix or deb-o-matic.
The right approach here (and this is quite often used) is to say: this is 
wrong but I'm not blocking for this so that the contributor knows about it 
(and a good contributor will upload a fix shortly after).

 We are a distributed team  which maintains packages in the team and
 round-trips because of such things merely add frustration.

Having gone very recently through this, yes, it adds frustration and is as 
much a fault of the contributor as of the reviewer. By lowering the bar we 
are not doing anyone a favour, just lowering the quality of the archive.

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Re: saods9 in repository

2008-04-02 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 00:46:14 Jason Quinn wrote:
 The saods9 package in the science (universe) section should probably
 be removed from the repository, perhaps permanently. Here's my
 reasoning:

 1) The version presently there contains a bug that does not allow it
 to interact with IRAF, another big program used by astronomers. IRAF
 is very frequently used in conjunction with ds9. This is confusing
 when a person is installing IRAF because trying to display an image in
 ds9 from IRAF causes both to crash with no obvious way of knowing what
 caused it.

 2) The ds9 program is very frequently updated and will be out-of-date
 almost as soon as it is added to the repository. They are up to
 version 5.1 now and not 4.0b7.

 3) The ds9 program is extremely easy to install and consists of just a
 single executable file. Any user who would be interested to use it
 would be good enough with computers to manually install it.

 At the least, the program should be updated to fix reason #1.

 Cheers,
 Jason

This is covered by 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/saods9/+bug/133784

which I'm planning to tackle since, unfortunately, the package was orphaned in 
Debian.
This is not an easy package at all since the upstream tarball has to be 
severely edited for copyright reasons, and the homemade build system has to 
be practically replaced to produce an acceptable package (at least, that was 
the case for 4.0b7).
I also had to mangle with some header files since the program uses its own c2f 
interface, which was not compatible with the gfortran compiler (again, to be 
checked for 5.1).
IMHO, there is no way we could have this ready for Hardy, my goal was to 
upload an update for Intrepid.
If the package is re-adopted in Debian and will receive regular maintenance 
this would obviously be the best solution.

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Re: New: automatix 2.0.7-1 (source)

2008-04-01 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Tuesday 01 April 2008 14:00:25 Sarah Hobbs wrote:
 Curses.  I *knew* someone would try an april fools joke on me at some
 point today

 Hobbsee

Don't feel alone in this .

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Re: Hi all

2008-03-07 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Friday 07 March 2008 18:25:19 Fahad Sadah wrote:

 So I don't need to do anything to get myself officially listed or
 something?

Everybody is free to contribute, the only requirement is to be an ubuntero. If 
you read the links you have been given very carefully you will see what it 
means to be a contributor, a MOTU or a core-dev and what each step entails.

 Also, how do I submit packages to the repositories?

As Emilio said, use the sponsoring queue (for bug fixes/merges/sync etc.) and 
REVU (http://revu.tauware.de/) for new packages.
For the latter, since we are in feature freeze, your package(s) won't get 
reviewed before the new cycle begins tough.

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Re: Introduction

2008-02-12 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 07:51:05 Balaji G wrote:

I am so much interested in contributing to Ubuntu and hence have joined the 
MOTU list .

Hi Balaji,

I'm glad you joined!

I am interested in fixing small bugs to  start off with and have already 
started reading through the packaging guide in the Ubuntu Wiki.

Thats a very good start. I can suggest you a couple of other wiki pages to 
look at:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment: should give you an overall view on 
what is involved in the Ubuntu development process.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize: lists some 
bitesized bugs if you want to jump straight in

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO: lists all activities we are currently 
performing.

If you need help or have some questions you want answered, you could pay a 
visit to the IRC freenode channel #ubuntu-motu:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

We also have semiregular QA sessions on Fridays in #ubuntu-classroom, usually 
around 13:00 UTC.

You should also subscribe to the ubuntu-motu-mentors mailing list where you 
could find help more suitable for a newcomer.
Feel free to post any questions you have in ubuntu-motu or ubuntu-motu-mentors 
or to seek help in #ubuntu-motu.

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Re: hi my name is lukasz

2008-02-11 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 10 February 2008 22:51:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I will be able to help that will be great, looking forward to hear any
 suggestions how to start.

Hi there Lukasz,

nice to have you here!

A good starting point is this Wiki page:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment

This should give you an overall view on what is involved in the Ubuntu 
development process.
I can suggest you also start reading the packaging guide and work on some 
bitesized bugs if you want to jump straight in:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO

If you need help or have some questions you want answered, pay a visit to the 
IRC freenode channel #ubuntu-motu:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat

We have semiregular QA sessions on Fridays in #ubuntu-classroom (usually 
around 13:00 UTC).

To see whats going on you should also subscribe to the ubuntu-motu-mentors 
mailing list, feel free to post any questions you have in this m.l, in 
ubuntu-motu-mentors or to seek help in #ubuntu-motu.

Hope this helps,

Cesare

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Re: Call for UVF Team volunteers

2008-01-23 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
 We'll extend the nomination period for another week as we've only
 received ONE nomination up until now: only brave Luke Yelavich stepped
 up for the challenge. Come on MOTUs, don't leave him hanging, step up
 for it today!

If there is a need I'll be glad to help.

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REVU: Uploaded: gimp-normalmap 1.2.1-0ubuntu1 (source)

2008-01-21 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
NEW: gimp-normalmap_1.2.1.orig.tar.gz
NEW: gimp-normalmap_1.2.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
NEW: gimp-normalmap_1.2.1-0ubuntu1.dsc

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Format: 1.7
Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:11:53 +0100
Source: gimp-normalmap
Binary: gimp-normalmap
Architecture: source
Version: 1.2.1-0ubuntu1
Distribution: hardy
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
Changed-By: Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 gimp-normalmap - Normal map plugin for GIMP
Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 181527
Changes: 
 gimp-normalmap (1.2.1-0ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low
 .
   * First release (LP: #181527)
   * The upstream tarball has been repacked from .bz2 to .gz
Files: 
 d0b685645ffa90e9bd22da80a429daff 756 graphics optional 
gimp-normalmap_1.2.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
 f45b8f92f898f26d1eed84bd89ce876f 145178 graphics optional 
gimp-normalmap_1.2.1.orig.tar.gz
 a0c238695aca5b3f927ade643d7e824b 1762 graphics optional 
gimp-normalmap_1.2.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
Original-Maintainer: Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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REVU: Upload: gpp4 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 (source)

2008-01-21 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
NEW: gpp4_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
NEW: gpp4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
NEW: gpp4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc

Format: 1.7
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:06:26 +0100
Source: gpp4
Binary: libgpp4-doc libgpp4-0 libgpp4-dev
Architecture: source
Version: 1.0.4-0ubuntu1
Distribution: hardy
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com
Changed-By: Morten Kjeldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description: 
 libgpp4-0  - shared library for CCP4 compatible programs
 libgpp4-dev - development environment for CCP4 compatible programs
 libgpp4-doc - doxygen generated documentation for libgpp4
Launchpad-Bugs-Fixed: 176209
Changes: 
 gpp4 (1.0.4-0ubuntu1) hardy; urgency=low
 .
   * Initial release (LP: #176209)
Files: 
 44a17501dd0cb1d674d2d4f9e7510f0d 713 science optional gpp4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.dsc
 48931781425a5b79a8255ebefaed24b3 498933 science optional 
gpp4_1.0.4.orig.tar.gz
 ee4728aeedda948455125c1fd228961f 3642 science optional 
gpp4_1.0.4-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
Original-Maintainer: Morten Kjeldgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Failing to unpatch

2007-12-26 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Wednesday 26 December 2007 22:53:51 Nicolas Valcarcel wrote:

 I working (or trying to) on Bug #178046 [1] and i have some doubts. Talking
 on #ubuntu-motu they have make me notice that the possible cause of the
 error is that some of the files is changing on build time and i need to
 backup it, but the facts are: - That patch modifies 181 files
   - The patch has 1.9 Mb
   - The patch is 60154 lines long

 That makes it a very hard work to find out what file is the problematic
 one, so i think the best to do here is to split the patch on smaller ones
 and then find which of them fails the thing is, can i split those files
 using filterdiff or i must use another dpatch method to do it the correct
 way. I have tried with filterdiff but something doesn't work fine but i
 don't know it was my error or it isn't the way to do it.

 1. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dillo/+bug/178046

You can find which files/hunks fail by simply running dpatch 
deapply-all --verbose after the first build.

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Re: Change in the Mentoring program

2007-11-25 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 25 November 2007 03:05:04 Brandon Holtsclaw wrote:
  People might be more inclined to volunteer if there was more visibility
  into the progress this project is making?

 I 100% agree, just dont have the numbers to make a solution to this.


The file where the reception records the mentoring activities is here:

https://code.launchpad.net/~motu-mentoring-reception

Is public and readable by everyone.

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Re: Change in the Mentoring program

2007-11-25 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sunday 25 November 2007 16:12:28 Scott Kitterman wrote:


 That doesn't really answer my questions:


Right now, the purpose of mentoring is not solely that of preparing MOTUs, one 
of the very reasons to make the distinction clear in dividing it into two 
phases.
If anything, most of mentoring is actually done as a one-on-one tutoring for 
totally new contributors; if we were to split the program in two stages right 
now, my own estimation is that not many contributors will fall in stage 2.

We have one proposal from Emmet, do we have any other proposals?
Do you think we should restrict mentoring to stage 1 only?
Do you think we should steer the program to be a pure one-on-one preparatory 
program for MOTUship?
Do you think we should dispense from mentoring altogether?

And ultimately, what do you think we should do to increase the number of new 
contributors that actively participate and integrate within the Ubuntu 
community?

Cesare

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Fwd: Re: Change in the Mentoring program

2007-11-25 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
This thread is of interest to #ubuntu-motu-mentors too, please cc any reply to 
that list as well.

Cesare

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Subject: Re: Change in the Mentoring program
Date: Sunday 25 November 2007
From: Ming Hua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com

I feel you are misunderstanding Scott.

On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 06:48:00PM +0100, Cesare Tirabassi wrote:
 On Sunday 25 November 2007 16:12:28 Scott Kitterman wrote:
 
  That doesn't really answer my questions:
 
[...]
 We have one proposal from Emmet, do we have any other proposals?
 Do you think we should restrict mentoring to stage 1 only?
 Do you think we should steer the program to be a pure one-on-one
 preparatory program for MOTUship?

If you can't answer Scott's questions, my response to these questions,
as an MOTU who never participated mentoring, is:  Why should I care?

 Do you think we should dispense from mentoring altogether?

Maybe, if after the mentoring program has been running for a few months,
we still don't have a clear idea about what the program has achieved.

Ming
2007.11.25

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StableReleaseUpdates: rutilt (0.15-0ubuntu5.2) needs testing in gutsy-proposed

2007-11-23 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

if you are using the r73 module your help will be appreciated in testing 
rutilt, available in gutsy-proposed. 
If you would like to test it, please add the following lines 
to /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed universe

Then update and install rutilt with your preferred package manager.

Please report test results to:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rutilt/+bug/164058

The TEST CASE is very simple, just check that rutilt is able to apply the 
choosen profile without any error being displayed.

Many thanks in advance for your help!

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StableReleaseUpdates: tagtool (0.12.3-2ubuntu0.1) needs testing in gutsy-proposed

2007-11-20 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

your help will be appreciated in testing tagtool, available in gutsy-proposed. 
If you would like to test it, please add the following lines 
to /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed universe

Then update and install tagtool with your preferred package manager.

Please report test results to: https://launchpad.net/bugs/160152

The TEST CASE is very simple, just check that tagtool is correctly displaying 
all text by using the appropriate translations as specified by your 
environment.

Many thanks in advance for your help!

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StableReleaseUpdates: mono-addins (0.2-2ubuntu0.1) needs testing in gutsy-proposed

2007-11-20 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

your help will be appreciated in testing libmono-addins0.2-cil and 
libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil, which should be available soon in gutsy-proposed. 
If you would like to test them, please add the following lines 
to /etc/apt/sources.list:

  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed universe

Then update and install libmono-addins0.2-cil and libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil 
with your preferred package manager.

Please report test results to: https://launchpad.net/bugs/149485

The TEST CASE is very simple, just check that pkgconfig locate correctly the 
libraries:

1.1) pkg-config --libs mono-addins
1.2) pkg-config --libs mono-addins-setup
1.3) pkg-config --libs mono-addins-gui

More details can be found under the TEST CASE header in the bug report.

Many thanks in advance for your help!

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StableReleaseUpdates: rutilt (0.15-0ubuntu5.1) available for testing in gutsy-proposed

2007-11-06 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
A testing version of rutilt has been published in gutsy-proposed.
To test it, please add the following line to your sources.list:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed universe

Then, update and upgrade (or install) rutilt.

Please provide feedback to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/155498

Detailed description of the problem:

In the Profile tab, after making a new profile and pressing the Apply 
button rutilt crashes.

Many thanks in advance for helping,

Cesare

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Re: Forward porting gutsy-proposed uploads to Hardy

2007-10-27 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Saturday 27 October 2007 21:26:48 Michael Bienia wrote:
 On 2007-10-23 18:05:31 +0200, Michael Bienia wrote:
  On 2007-10-23 10:19:51 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
   As promised when we decided to go ahead with uploads to gutsy-proposed
   before hardy was open, here is the list of uploads that need to go into
   Hardy to catch up.  Please reply to this message to the list when
   you've uploaded to hardy so it'll be easy to track.
 
  Source: gtk2hs

 Sync requested of gtk2hs 0.9.12-1 from Debian unstable. It contains the
 patch which is included in -proposed.
 Bug #157853: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/157853

 Michael

Thanks for the head-up, I had totally forgotten we needed to report it:

bug for which -proposed was issued
Bug #64032: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+bug/64032

new version uploaded in hardy
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/hardy-changes/2007-October/65.html

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StableReleaseUpdates: rpmstrap (0.5.2-2ubuntu0.1) available for testing in gutsy-proposed

2007-10-19 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
A testing version of rpmstrap has been published in gutsy-proposed.
To test it, please add the following line to your sources.list:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy-proposed universe

Then, update and upgrade (or install) rpmstrap.

Please provide feedback to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64032

Here you will find a detailed description of the problem.

Thanks,

Cesare

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Log of QA Session - Friday 19 October 2007

2007-10-19 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

you can find here the log of today's session:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/QA/Logs/19-10-07

Thanks to RR D. for hosting and everybody who partecipated!

Cesare

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MOTU Mentoring Meeting

2007-10-16 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear All,

This is a reminder for the MOTU Mentoring meeting, which will take place in
#ubuntu-meeting on Freenode this Friday, October 19th at 13:00 UTC.

Agenda is confirmed as follows:

1. Current status of the Mentoring program
    - Feedback from Mentors
    - Drop rate
    - Open requests status
    - Available slots vs. requests

2. Future of the Mentoring program
    - How to increase the number of Mentors
    - How to improve feedback and effectiveness of Mentors
    - Is it possible to select contributors and if yes, how?
    - Should we set-up a trial period?

3. AOB

Thanks,

MOTU Mentoring reception

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Log of QA Session - Friday 12 October 2007

2007-10-12 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Dear all,

you can find here the log of today's session:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Q%26A/Logs/12-10-07

Thanks to Rockstar Daniel for hosting and everybody who partecipated!

Cesare

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Re: Welcome Mathias Gug!

2007-09-03 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Daniel Holbach wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 Mathias just joined the MOTU team! He's been doing great work on the
 ServerTeam and apparmor, so we're quite pleased to have him!

 Please join me in welcoming him! ROCK ON, Mathias!

 Have a nice day,
  Daniel
   
Added Mathias and Evan to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU under MOTU News 
so that everybody can see their grinning faces :-)

Cesare

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Re: Refining MOTU Mentoring

2007-08-21 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 10:07 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:

 I thought this is what #ubuntu-motu was for?
 

I thought for a long time if it was correct to publish the following
snippet. I believe however that it is important to share with you some
considerations I received from a disappointed contributor, on this very
subject:

Namely i had been several times at irc and asked some questions about
several things (and heck there are a lot things i don´t know nor
understand) but at best i got only very limited (if at all) answers.
Everybody just seems to be too busy.

And then continues:

To me it felt that i am just in the way and the opposite of being
helpful.

It makes you think (at least it does for me).

On the positive side I should also add that my personal experience is
totally the opposite,  whenever I asked a question (no matter how silly)
I almost always got the answer (the same is valid for #ubuntu-devel and
#ubuntu-bugs by the way).

We have a lot of contributors in this list, and I think it is the right
time for them to speak up and share their thoughts. We need you guys,
and we need to know if what we do is valid or not. PLEASE ADD YOUR
VOICE!

Cesare

SATELLITES: They are in SPACE and stay there by going so fast that they
are never in one place enough to fall down. TELEVISIONS are bounced off
them. They are part of SCIENCE. -- From A Scientific Encyclopedia for
the Enquiring Young Nome by Angalo de Haberdasheri (Terry Pratchett,
Wings)


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Re: review tool for new packages

2007-08-20 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 11:45 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: 
  Personally, I only see as a solution that of changing the
  ubuntu-universe-contributors team participation from an open to a
  restricted one.  Only contributors that can show a minimum level of
  competence as well as a continued interested in Ubuntu and packaging
  should be allowed to join this team, and therefore contribute new
  packages to universe.
 
 I tend to agree with changing the joining policy of
 ubuntu-universe-contributors. This leads to the question who adds people
 to the team? The administrators of that team would need to decide who is
 able to submit packages for review and who is not. Given that the group
 we are talking about is expected to still learn about packaging, we
 cannot use that as criterium.
 

I think the difficult bit would be to agree on a policy; how to
implement that policy should just be a technical matter that (I think)
can be easily solved. For instance, a couple of ideas:

- to join some teams it is required to show having done a certain amount
of work as well as a continuity in doing so. For contributors, this
would mean to keep a public log of their contributions with links to
relevant LP bug reports.

- we have a running mentoring program, where mentors should be able to
assess the readiness of their pupils to produce a certain basic (and I
stress the word basic) standard of packaging, as well as the required
continuity or interest shown.

- we can set up a trial period, at the end of which new contributors can
be confirmed as full participants of the team or rejected (or perhaps be
granted an extension in case of personal problems, other real-life (tm)
commitments etc.).

In any case, kudos to you guys for REVU being up again!

Cesare

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woman. There was no possible way that she could have been mistaken for a
young man in any language, especially Braille. -- The goddess with the
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First task

2007-03-09 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
First of all, thanks for your pointers, help and especially patience
with this newbie.
I went along with something easy at first (Bug LP#88232: Package
description is very out of date) :-)
I changed the short description and long description in 'control' as
follows:

The award-winning Web browser from Mozilla
 Firefox 2 is now faster, more secure, and fully customizable.
 New powerful features have been added, among others:
 Web feeds, in line spell checking, integrated search capabilities,
 identity theft protection, and advanced tabbed browsing. 

The 'changelog' was changed with the following addition (using dch -i):

firefox (2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low

  * package description updated (Closes: LP#88232)

 -- Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri,  9 Mar 2007 09:08:04
+0100

I then rebuild the source package and checked that the executable build
is ok.
This is the diff between the two source packages:

diff -Nru /tmp/JlARGXGcGM/firefox-2.0.0.2
+1/debian/changelog /tmp/goRRKpBClM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/changelog
--- /tmp/JlARGXGcGM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/changelog  2007-03-09
09:59:15.0 +0100
+++ /tmp/goRRKpBClM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/changelog  2007-03-09
09:59:52.0 +0100
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+firefox (2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu2) feisty; urgency=low
+
+  * package description updated (Closes: LP#88232)
+
+ -- Cesare Tirabassi [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri,  9 Mar 2007 09:08:04
+0100
+
 firefox (2.0.0.2+1-0ubuntu1) feisty; urgency=low
 
   * new upstream release 2.0.0.2
diff -Nru /tmp/JlARGXGcGM/firefox-2.0.0.2
+1/debian/control /tmp/goRRKpBClM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/control
--- /tmp/JlARGXGcGM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/control2007-03-09
09:59:15.0 +0100
+++ /tmp/goRRKpBClM/firefox-2.0.0.2+1/debian/control2007-03-09
09:59:52.0 +0100
@@ -12,12 +12,11 @@
 Provides: www-browser
 Conflicts: mozilla-firefox ( 1.5.dfsg-1)
 Replaces: mozilla-firefox
-Description: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
- Firefox is a redesign of the Mozilla browser component, similar to
- Galeon, K-Meleon and Camino, but written using the XUL user interface
- language and designed to be lightweight and cross-platform.
- .
- This browser was previously known as Firebird and Phoenix.
+Description: The award-winning Web browser from Mozilla
+ Firefox 2 is now faster, more secure, and fully customizable.
+ New powerful features have been added, among others:
+ Web feeds, in line spell checking, integrated search capabilities,
+ identity theft protection, and advanced tabbed browsing. 
 
 Package: firefox-dom-inspector
 Architecture: all

I guess this is somehow useless as most probably you don't want to
update the source package just with this bit but it was a good exercise
for me nonetheless :-)

I will keep trying to do something useful for the MOTU/TODO but your
comments/requests on the above will be highly appreciated!

ct


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Willing to help

2007-03-07 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Hello everybody,

my name is Cesare and I have way too much time to waste :-)
Seriously, I'd be willing to give you guys an hand for packaging,
merging, reviewing, or whatever other task I can do to help this
community grow.

Please let me know if and how I can be of help.

I hope that posting in this list was the right thing to do, if not,
apologies in advance.

ct





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