Re: High CPU temperature

2011-03-13 Thread Sina
On 03/13/2011 11:48 AM, njin wrote:
 Il giorno sab, 12/03/2011 alle 23.26 +0330, Sina ha scritto:
 Hi all,
 I've got a HP DV2 netbook with a 1.66GHz AMD athlon neo-mv 40. CPU
 temperature is over 70C most of the time. I tried lots of solution and
 none worked:
 1- disabling compiz
 2- running on powersave mode which decreases temperature rate but in the
 end it's the same
 3- disabling Wireless
 4- running less apps: for example powertop lists firefox-container as
 top 5 wake-up reasons, so I started using Chromium, and it worked
 although results were not that great.

 I didn't find any solutions crawling the web. These things should happen
 in windows not in linux (and to my surprise windows 7 works fine,
 although i don't run many programs on windows most of the time). Do any
 of you got any suggestion? The temperature and vent noise will kill me soon.

 Thanks,
 Sina

 Hello Sina
 simply open a terminal and run 
 
 ubuntu-bug linux
 
 reply to the few questions and send me the bug number so we can see what
 happens.
 Fabio
 
Thanks guys for replies. Actually cleaned the vent this morning and no
irritating voice since then. But I think I should do as Fabio said and
report a bug, Ubuntu should behave low config netbooks more
considerately. I'll send you the code ASAP.

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High CPU temperature

2011-03-12 Thread Sina
Hi all,
I've got a HP DV2 netbook with a 1.66GHz AMD athlon neo-mv 40. CPU
temperature is over 70C most of the time. I tried lots of solution and
none worked:
1- disabling compiz
2- running on powersave mode which decreases temperature rate but in the
end it's the same
3- disabling Wireless
4- running less apps: for example powertop lists firefox-container as
top 5 wake-up reasons, so I started using Chromium, and it worked
although results were not that great.

I didn't find any solutions crawling the web. These things should happen
in windows not in linux (and to my surprise windows 7 works fine,
although i don't run many programs on windows most of the time). Do any
of you got any suggestion? The temperature and vent noise will kill me soon.

Thanks,
Sina

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11.04 upgrade makes GUI fail

2011-03-12 Thread Daniel Lewis
I'm gonna reformat in order to fix but how can I get useful information
about the failure for the rest of ubuntu?

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Newbie questions

2011-03-11 Thread Joseph Areeda

Greetings,

I sent an email yesterday introducing myself and discussing problems
installing Alpha 3 but it is awaiting moderation (it was 50K because
attached a log file).  I won't repeat that stuff in case it's approved. 
But I do have questions about getting started in the QA process.


I have been reading the Wiki.  I signed up for the mentor program but
haven't heard back yet so I thought I'd press on.
I'm just getting used to all the changes in the UI in Natty.  I'm using
zsync to update the daily iso.  Is it necessary [or helpful] to wipe and
reinstall the iso every day?  I guess since I'm having install issues, I
should, but it's a bit of a process.  I've got it figured out using
VirtualBox 4 but still can't get it going on real hardware.  I haven't
tried the trick that worked on VB on a machine yet.

Once I install an iso, should I do apt-get upgrade or work with the
packages on the CD?

What about reporting problems that show up in the logs but not in the
UI?  Are those worth emails to this list?  For example, I'm having
trouble with the Update Center so I have to run it from the command line
with LD_PRELOAD and in the window I see software-center.apt.aptcache -
WARNING - broken packages encountered while getting deps for daily-journal

As the new guy, I'm a little shy about filing bug reports until I can
figure out if it's me or Natty.  Is it better to ask or file bugs that
turn out to be my inexperience?

I have a lot more questions like these but let's see if this email makes
it to the list.

Joe

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Re: I'd like to introduce myself and ask newbie questions

2011-03-11 Thread Mads ¤

 The install iso boots but never makes it past the first screen
 Preparing to Install Ubuntu, attached is the VM log, if anyone can see
 what I'm missing I'd appreciate it.


Your problem is real and there is a reported bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/723990


Booting from a USB stick on a real machine (Phenom II x6) was worse.
 Problem mounting Sr0 after I tried to install.

 CD worked a bit better, it at least gave me an error message:
 ubi-partman failed with exit code 141.  Further information may be
 found in /var/log/syslog.  Do you want to try running this step again
 before continuing... I could try it with the live CD on this system.  I
 may


This one to:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/730209
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New member

2011-03-11 Thread Sina
Hi all,

I'm Sina. I'm quite new to ubuntu and I loved it so far. I wanted to
contact other users, learn more from then and hopefully contribute to
the community, so I joind the list.
wish you all happy times.

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Re: I'd like to introduce myself and ask newbie questions

2011-03-11 Thread Brian Murray
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:26:26AM -0800, Joseph Areeda wrote:
 
 
 On 03/11/2011 09:58 AM, Eliseo Duarte wrote:
 this is not a meet and greet!
 OK.  But I've been reading this list for months and you are the
 first one to say that.  I apologize, I thought I had enough issues
 with the Alpha release to at least start a discussion.

You did and thank you for bringing them up.

 Could you direct me to some reading on how best to use this list?
 I'm trying to get started in the QA process and my reading of the
 Wiki and everything else I've found on the website leaves me with
 questions.

This is a perfectly acceptable place to ask questions regarding the
Quality Assurance process.  For real time answers you might also try
#ubuntu-quality on Freenode's IRC servers.

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Re: I'd like to introduce myself and ask newbie questions

2011-03-11 Thread Brian Murray
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:01:03AM -0800, Joseph Areeda wrote:
 Greetings all,
 
 I am retired from a career in software development and medical
 research.  I've been using Unix since 1983 (at least that's the first
 comment in my .cshrc file) and Ubuntu for about a year.  I like Ubuntu
 and would like to give back a little by participating in QA and perhaps
 a bit of coding.
 
 I've been reading Wiki's and this mailing list, signed up for the mentor
 thing, but that seems slow moving, so let's try this list.  I need some
 help or focus to get started.
 
 I've read that testing on a virtual machine is not as good as a hardware
 install, but it seems to a good place to start with an alpha release,
 especially one like Natty which has extensive UI changes.

One can do lots of testing in a virtual machine and we welcome any help!

 I thought I'd start with VirtualBox and load my favorite packages and
 get the feel of it before I loaded it onto hardware but I can't seem to
 get it to load.  I'm running 10.04 LTS (Linux jsa 2.6.32-29-generic
 #58-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 11 20:52:10 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux) on a
 laptop (I5 4Gb) and a desktop (AMD Phenom X6 16GB).  I downloaded the
 latest Vbox from Oracle (4.04).  I use zsync to update a few times over
 the last week, they all behave the same.
 
 The install iso boots but never makes it past the first screen
 Preparing to Install Ubuntu, attached is the VM log, if anyone can see
 what I'm missing I'd appreciate it.

As mentioned in another post you've certainly hit a bug here.
 
 I can run Meerkat (Linux meerkat 2.6.35-27-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue
 Feb 22 20:25:29 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux) in a VM with the same
 settings.  I've tried a bunch of different ones and both 32 and 64 bit
 versions.

You could test the distribution upgrade process and then be running the
development release that way.  You'd need to use 'update-manager -d' to
get update manager to check for the development release though.

In case you didn't run across it here is some documentation regarding
testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing.

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Re: I'd like to introduce myself and ask newbie questions

2011-03-11 Thread Brian Murray
Identifying the bug reports that the original post was experiencing was
a huge help and I've escalated one of them.  So thank you!

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 07:58:05PM +0100, Mads ¤ wrote:
 Hi.
 I am very sorry, no rudeness is intended. I have not been participating long
 myself and is very unsure about how to do things right.
 I have not been able to install Natty because of these two bugs and just
 wanted to help.
 Mads
 
 
 On 11 March 2011 18:58, Eliseo Duarte duarteeli...@ymail.com wrote:
 
  this is not a meet and greet!
  -Original Message-
  Date: Friday, March 11, 2011 8:58:12 am
  To: ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com
  From: Mads ¤ motepr...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: I'd like to introduce myself and ask newbie questions
 
  
   The install iso boots but never makes it past the first screen
   Preparing to Install Ubuntu, attached is the VM log, if anyone can see
   what I'm missing I'd appreciate it.
  
 
  Your problem is real and there is a reported bug:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/723990
 
 
  Booting from a USB stick on a real machine (Phenom II x6) was worse.
   Problem mounting Sr0 after I tried to install.
  
   CD worked a bit better, it at least gave me an error message:
   ubi-partman failed with exit code 141.  Further information may be
   found in /var/log/syslog.  Do you want to try running this step again
   before continuing... I could try it with the live CD on this system.  I
   may
  
  
  This one to:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/730209
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Re: Testing ASUS A52J for Natty Narwhal

2011-02-28 Thread komputes
On 02/27/2011 06:02 AM, Lauri Pohjanheimo wrote:
 Hi,

 my name is Lauri Pohjanheimo and I am new to Ubuntu community.

 I bought ASUS A52J laptop but i didn't find any information whether it
 is compatible with Ubuntu. Is anyone doing tests for this laptop? 
 I'll start testing this laptop anyway, but as i have not done anything
 like this before, i might need some help. Is this the right place to ask
 if i get stuck or don't understand something?

 Best Regards,

 Lauri Pohjanheimo





I did a quick search for bugs* and found that all the bugs citing this
model number have been corrected. I would guess that natty (if not
meverick) should roll well on this machine. Try testing it with a
Live-usb key (created with usb-creator) before choosing to install.

*
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/544178
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/677652
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/690730

-komputes

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wget problems

2011-02-26 Thread Keagan Winterthieme
Sounds to me like somebody is interrupting your download before it
reaches you. They can view and change what you download or upload before
it reaches you or the server. The only way you can tell is by using
md5sums. These are some security problems that no one can fix - only
keep an eye on that md5sums number, they HAVE to match. If they don't,
discard the downloaded file right away. If you can use an https://
connection, I would advise you to try that. If it persists after that,
then I would get an old version of wget or try ftp or trying a server
from the US or a different server for Mexico. Let me know how it goes.

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Launching linux os news issue

2011-02-16 Thread Umesh Juwatkar
Dear manish,
whts bad in spreading the news over this list ? Its afterall 1st linux os which 
is purely for it pros n ethical hackers... Nd its too from india, mumbai nd 
from the member of this group ?
Very corrosive mind haan ?
Nahi sudhroge..
Let it be...
Regards...
Umesh.

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   2. 2011-02-11 Ubuntu Release Meating Minutes (Kate Stewart)
   3. 10.04.2 ISO Testing progress report (Jean-Baptiste Lallement)


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On 02/14/2011 10:57 PM, Umesh Juwatkar wrote:
 Dear all,
 this is umesh juwatkar, an microsoft and netforensic certified IT 
 professional from mumbai.
 I am glad to announce my 1st professional linux os launching.
 This os will be armed with too many antihacking tools for ethical hackers.
 This os will be launched in march...

Great to see your enthusiasm.

Sadly this list is no way related to your announcement. This isn't a 
list to announce your project

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Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:23:49 -0600
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Subject: 2011-02-11 Ubuntu Release Meating Minutes
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Overall: Teams are starting into the A3 feature groove :), bug backlog
is still a bit high in some areas. 

Team Summaries:
  * QA: Linux, LibreOffice, and Unity are toping the list of incoming
bugs over last week. 
  * HW Cert: All servers for 11.04 except 1 are now reporting results,
desktop runs not done this week due to hardware relocation. 
  * Bugs under focus: 714829, 695842, 715871 
  * Security: Making progress on work items for Natty, nothing A3
critical 
  * Bugs under focus: bug:344878, bug:712662 (pending doko input),
bug:714908, bug:714958, bug:715874. 
  * Kernel: uploaded two kernels with the latest v2.6.38-3.30
(v2.6.38-rc4 based) with lots of fixes for graphics, now mostly
watching mainline 
  * Bugs under focus: see Kernel team report. 
  * Foundations: btrfs installs now confirmed to work properly again,
Upstart visualisation and interactive boot work 
  * Bugs under focus: made progress this week, switching back to
features for A3 
  * Server: working on awstrial, new openstack snapshot, working on LXC
on openstack, and new packages including Handbreak plugin for mysql.
Eucalyptus still remains to be a problem in Natty. 
  * Bugs under focus: regression showing up with bug:590201, will
provide feedback on above list post meeting. 
  * Desktop: cleanup of A3 WI's in progress, annoying compiz bug about
invisible windows should be fixed now, python-gobject ABI breakage
has been hotfixed, so pygtk apps are running normally again 
  * Bugs under focus: 638827 is blocked on mozilla. 
  * UbuntuOne: shotwell not looking likely for Natty, unity integration
has started, and banshee still needs some work. 
  * Kubuntu: kubuntu mobile mostly working again, libindicate-qt updated
for new API, Qt being built with gcc 4.4 to work around issues with
gcc 4.5 on ARM 
  * Thorny areas that need some focus and/or decisions: 
  * plymouth timing interactions with vesab (kernel, foundations) 
  * Eucalyptus (server) 
  * X - rolling back, or working around? (desktop, arm, kernel) 
  * python 2.6/2.7 vs. 2.7 only? (motu, foundations) 
  * picking up Linaro recent toolchain drop? (arm, foundations,
linaro, kubuntu) 

Action Items:
* [release team] to revisit release freeze date, and its relation to
beta 2 
  * [zul] to provide update on status of server bugs highlighted in
agenda 
  * [wendar] to post resolution on the Python 2.6/2.7 vs Python 2.7
inclusion in Natty 
  * [skaet] follow up with doko after he returns on Linaro toolchain
inclusion.

Full summary and links to logs can be found:

Re: Launching own linux OS.

2011-02-15 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/14/2011 10:57 PM, Umesh Juwatkar wrote:

Dear all,
this is umesh juwatkar, an microsoft and netforensic certified IT professional 
from mumbai.
I am glad to announce my 1st professional linux os launching.
This os will be armed with too many antihacking tools for ethical hackers.
This os will be launched in march...


Great to see your enthusiasm.

Sadly this list is no way related to your announcement. This isn't a 
list to announce your project


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[Fwd: Natty Schedule Adjustments (Beta 2 added, Release Candidate dropped)]

2011-02-14 Thread Marjo Mercado
FYI.

We're going to go ahead and add a Beta 2 for this release, and drop the
Release Candidate from the Natty Schedule [1].   

Natty Beta 2 will be on April 14th, 2011.

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule

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After reviewing the plans at the end of this release, it was felt that a
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easter holiday would be a bit late.  

After discussing this with the key stakeholders and not getting any
negative feedback from them or in the weekly release meetings, we're
going to go ahead and add a Beta 2 for this release, and drop the
Release Candidate from the Natty Schedule [1].   

Natty Beta 2 will be on April 14th, 2011.

If you anticipate any problems due to this change, please let us know.


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10.04.2 iso-testing notification

2011-02-14 Thread Lance
I just received a notification for 10.04.2 iso testing but everything is blank:

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4994

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/

Are we really doing this? I think we should in case the Release Notes need 
updating or anything, particularly considering that 8.04.4 is nearing end of 
life.

I'd also think upgrade testing would be important and I am prepared, that is, I 
have both an 8.04.4 and a 9.10 prepared for upgrading.

I do see there's a daily build available:

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lucid/daily-live/current/

And my calendar says that 10.04.2 official release date is 2-17-02.

Please inform.


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Launching own linux OS.

2011-02-14 Thread Umesh Juwatkar
Dear all,
this is umesh juwatkar, an microsoft and netforensic certified IT professional 
from mumbai.
I am glad to announce my 1st professional linux os launching.
This os will be armed with too many antihacking tools for ethical hackers.
This os will be launched in march...
Thanks n Reagards,
Umesh... 

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LinkedIn
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Re: SV: Natty Narwhal Alpha 2 in Microsoft v

2011-02-07 Thread Evan Peck
I am going to try using Virtualbox instead. But thank you, anyway!

-Evan:-)

On Feb 5, 2011 1:21 AM, Alexander Strand alexstra...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't know the status of alpha 2 but i know the image is a dvd. Do you
have a DVD player on your computer? If not, maybe thats the reason.
If you have dvd player maybe iso file is broken, that often happens when
downloading on slow networks.

The iso file should be over 700 mb.

Alex!
*Opprinnelig melding*
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Natty Narwhal Alpha 2 in Microsoft virtual pc

2011-02-04 Thread Evan Peck
Very elated about Alpha 2. Doing my testing in Microsoft Virtual pc. Ubuntu
won't  seem to boot off cdrom image. Help me, PLEASE!

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Hi everyone!

Natty Alpha 2 is due this week and candidate images will start appearing
hopefully Today.

As usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA team to participate in the
image testing to ensure we have good test coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
you are new to this.

For this testing session we have established the priority list below:
ubuntu-desktop  i386
ubuntu-desktop  amd64
Ubuntu-server   i386
Ubuntu-server   amd64
Ubuntu-alternatei386
Ubuntu-alternateamd64
Ubuntu-preinstalled omap
Ubuntu-server EC2   i386
Ubuntu-server EC2   amd64
kubuntu-desktop i386
xubuntu-desktop i386
Ubuntu-dvd  i386
Ubuntu-dvd  amd64
kubuntu-desktop amd64
ubuntustudio-desktopi386
xubuntu-desktop amd64
edubuntu-desktopi386
ubuntustudio-desktopamd64
edubuntu-desktopamd64

Rather than going deep and in order to make sure that there is no big
issue left behind, we'll start by running a testcase for each image
(/Install/DesktopWhole or /Install/AlternateWhole depending on the
image) and ensure that each image have at least been tested once, then
we will run the other test cases.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!

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Re:

2011-02-03 Thread Scott Howard
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Alexander Strand alexstra...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm dualbooting Windows 7 and Ubuntu Lucid, and since wubi don't work for 
 11.04 alpha 1 so I'm asking if there are any program like wubi for installing 
 a second ubuntu OS within ubuntu Lucid, maybe it will work for the 11.04.
 Or are the wubi fixed in alpha 2?

I don't know the status of wubi in alpha 2, but if you'd like to set
up a testing instance of the development version of Ubuntu, you can
try installing it in a virtual machine.

Easy instructions:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/FirstVM
and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/VirtualBox

More general instructions on VirutalBox (one of the ways of setting up a VM):
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox

More general instructions on Virtual Machines:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualMachines

 And how do I sign the code of conduct in Ubuntu Lucid Lynx?

See:
http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/2010/12/22/004-SigningCoC

Cheers,
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Meeting Notes 2011-02-02

2011-02-03 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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Here are the minutes of our weekly QA Meeting at #ubuntu-quality. They
can also be found online with the IRC logs at 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/20110202

= Summary =

 * SRU Testing
  * Last week 111 packages published to stable releases.
   * A total of 54 packages have been published to maverick
* 27 packages published to maverick-updates: casper, computer-janitor, 
deja-dup, ec2-ami-tools, eglibc, empathy, euca2ools, evolution, gourmet, 
indicator-appmenu, linux-linaro, linux-meta-linaro, linux-meta-ti-omap4, 
lubuntu-default-settings, lxdm, media-player-info, monkeystudio, nautilus, 
nfs-utils, openssh, portmap, postgrey, python-django-piston, python-pysnmp4, 
ubuntu-docs, update-manager, upstart
* 8 packages published to maverick-security: linux, 
linux-backports-modules-2.6.35, linux-meta, linux-ports-meta, openjdk-6, 
openjdk-6, openjdk-6b18, subversion
* 19 packages published to maverick-proposed: aptdaemon, awstats, banshee, 
dell-recovery, fuse, linux, linux-meta, linux-ports-meta, linux-ports-meta, 
moon, pgdesigner, tar, thunderbird-locales, ubuntu-docs, 
ubuntu-font-family-sources, util-linux, varnish, xdg-utils, 
xserver-xorg-video-intel
   * A total of 45 packages have been published to lucid
* 30 packages published to lucid-updates: apparmor, base-files, casper, 
consolekit, debian-installer, debootstrap, ec2-ami-tools, eglibc, euca2ools, 
grub2, gwibber, linux-lts-backport-maverick, linux-meta, 
linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick, mysql-dfsg-5.1, nfs-utils, opensync, 
partman-base, pidgin, plymouth, portmap, python3.1, samba, srtp, 
system-tools-backends, testdrive, unattended-upgrades, upstart, util-linux, 
xubuntu-docs
* 11 packages published to lucid-security: linux, 
linux-backports-modules-2.6.32, linux-ec2, linux-meta, linux-meta-ec2, 
linux-ports-meta, openjdk-6, openjdk-6, openjdk-6b18, openjdk-6b18, subversion
* 4 packages published to lucid-proposed: linux-backports-modules-2.6.32, 
linux-meta, linux-ports-meta, moon
   * A total of 7 packages have been published to karmic
* 5 packages published to karmic-security: openjdk-6, openjdk-6, 
openjdk-6b18, openjdk-6b18, subversion
* 2 packages published to karmic-proposed: moon, ubuntu-font-family-sources
   * A total of 3 packages have been published to hardy
* 1 package published to hardy-updates: apparmor
* 1 package published to hardy-security: subversion
* 1 package published to hardy-proposed: ubuntu-font-family-sources
   * A total of 2 packages have been published to dapper-security: 
linux-source-2.6.15, subversion
  * the -proposed queue for lucid has been verified and published to update to 
prepare the release of 10.04.2

 * Bug Day
  * Triaged ~~79 of 171 Totem bugs
  * Next Bug Day - Rhythmbox 

 * Burndown updates
  * 
http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-platform-qa-natty-alpha-2.html
  * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa
  * https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-server-n-qa

 * Any other business?
  * Thank you to all the Natty Alpha2 pre-release ISO testers.  

 * New chair
  * patrickmw will chair the 2011-02-09 meeting at 17:00 UTC.

Thanks,

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2011-02-02 Thread Alexander Strand
I'm dualbooting Windows 7 and Ubuntu Lucid, and since wubi don't work for 11.04 
alpha 1 so I'm asking if there are any program like wubi for installing a 
second ubuntu OS within ubuntu Lucid, maybe it will work for the 11.04.
Or are the wubi fixed in alpha 2?

And how do I sign the code of conduct in Ubuntu Lucid Lynx?

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You're invited to join Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2 ISO Testing

2011-02-01 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi everyone!

Natty Alpha 2 is due this week and candidate images will start appearing
hopefully Today.

As usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA team to participate in the
image testing to ensure we have good test coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
you are new to this.

For this testing session we have established the priority list below:
ubuntu-desktop  i386
ubuntu-desktop  amd64
Ubuntu-server   i386
Ubuntu-server   amd64
Ubuntu-alternatei386
Ubuntu-alternateamd64
Ubuntu-preinstalled omap
Ubuntu-server EC2   i386
Ubuntu-server EC2   amd64
kubuntu-desktop i386
xubuntu-desktop i386
Ubuntu-dvd  i386
Ubuntu-dvd  amd64
kubuntu-desktop amd64
ubuntustudio-desktopi386
xubuntu-desktop amd64
edubuntu-desktopi386
ubuntustudio-desktopamd64
edubuntu-desktopamd64

Rather than going deep and in order to make sure that there is no big
issue left behind, we'll start by running a testcase for each image
(/Install/DesktopWhole or /Install/AlternateWhole depending on the
image) and ensure that each image have at least been tested once, then
we will run the other test cases.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

Thank you very much for your help and happy testing!

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Re: Testing in USB

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Lane

On 01/27/2011 10:54 AM, irlandes wrote:

Interesting. I haven't done much testing but 10.04 because I'd almost
rather take a beating than install a distro to suit my tastes.

If USB flash testing is good, I will have to take another look at it. I
have accumulated a significant number of flash drives, up to 16GB.  I
probably can't do dailies, because it takes too long to download.  But,
I can work on alphas and betas.


Well, like I said, you can always use something like Virtuabox, Xen, 
KVM, etc... use the ISOs and test in a virtual environment... it's 
valuable testing too.


As for USB, There's nothing wrong with using USB sticks to install 
instead of actually burning CD/DVDs.  Whenever I install to bare metal, 
I use USB sticks.


There is a caveat to making bootable USB sticks though... if you use the 
Startup Disk Creator I mentioned, in some cases, the end result isn't 
bootable.  So if that happens, you'll want to try unetbootin instead 
which seems to always work (I've never had issues with it at least).


Regarding dailies, I don't know what kind of internet connection you 
have, but if you have the ubuntu-qa-tools package installed, there's a 
program called dl-ubuntu-test-iso that you can use to grab whatever 
you're looking for.


What most of us who do a lot of ISO testing do is download the ISOs we 
want and then use that tool and zsync to keep them up to date... you 
don't need to download the entire ISO every time, zsync just downloads 
the diff of what you have and what's currently on cdimages.ubuntu.com 
and then creates the current ISO on your computer locally.


It makes pulling the current image a LOT faster.  In my case, I keep a 
full mirror of cdimages.ubuntu.com locally.  Using that tool and zsync, 
I can update the full mirror in about 12 hours, and that's across a 
10Mbps DSL line.  For a single image I can usually update in just a few 
minutes.


Anyway, good luck!  As has been announced, Natty Alpha 2 testing is next 
week :-)  we'd love to have your help [1]


[1] iso.qa.ubuntu.com

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[no subject]

2011-01-27 Thread Alexander Strand
Do anyone know how to partition the windows hard drive in 2 disks, install 
ubuntu 10.04 on the normal way on the new partition without grub, after setup 
restart computer, boot win 7 normally with windows 7 boot manager and after 
that use wubi and install 11.04 alpha.

If one thing will go wrong with boot after that, i can't do it, but if windows 
7 boot manager are there as normal, i will do it that way, but i won't change 
bootloader. I'm using my school computer to it, so everything must be as normal 
after the setup is over, the only difference is that it will be an Ubuntu Lucid 
boot entry in the BCD. Is that possible?

If that is possible, testing of 11.04 will start soon.

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[no subject]

2011-01-27 Thread Alexander Strand
Now i have installed Ubuntu Lucid on the normal way my windows 7 is not 
overwritten, and now the next step is 11.04 in wubi, but now i can do it by 
myself. Thanks for helping me with the Lucid setup. The BCD is there as Normal, 
and a Ubuntu entry is added. It was that i meant. I got answer after only 5-10 
minutes and that was very good.
Now testing can start.
Thanks!

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Kernel Bug Day Tuesday, February 1, 2011

2011-01-25 Thread Jeremy Foshee
Hi Folks!

I'd like to announce that the next kernel bug day will be next
Tuesday. Our focus will be on triaging bugs in the new status and
getting them to the next state or requesting more information for them
to move further toward closure.

I look forward to seeing all of you there. I will be available in
all of the usual places: IRC[0], e-mail, etc. so feel free to chat with me
if you have questions. I'll be blogging this to the Kernel Team's voices
page[1] as well, so there may be updated information available there.

Thanks for all of your help!

~JFo

[0] #kernel-team on FreeNode
[1] http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/

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Re: Changing a pixel

2011-01-24 Thread Manish Sinha
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:04 AM, David Hutto smokefl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm at a loss for search terms on this, but is there a Linux command
 to change a particular pixel on a screen?

You can ask on ubuntu-users which is a general list for people to ask questions.

Additionally you can also ask your question on askubuntu.com

This list is for discussion related to Quality Assurance for Ubuntu

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 Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static 
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Please resist from putting all these quotes and disclaimers. I also access my
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These quotes add no real value and a lot of people pay for this too.
I think many more people are also in the same situation

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[no subject]

2011-01-23 Thread Faiz Rasool
i want to show you the method how to make the ubuntu secure
just make 2 drived for windows
one is z: which the orginal windows file placed and it was defreezed so it
was readonly
and second one is c: it was only setting and programs
and so windows programmed cannot be attacked
so user has the right while windows loading the windows he can delete all
the data in c so clean ubuntu
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Re: Changing a pixel

2011-01-22 Thread Shane Fagan
Hey David,

This isnt the list for development questions. It would take a bit of
explaining about the graphics stack to give you a solid answer.

Regards
--fagan

On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 13:34 -0500, David Hutto wrote:
 I'm at a loss for search terms on this, but is there a Linux command
 to change a particular pixel on a screen?
 
 -- 
 The lawyer in me says argue...even if you're wrong. The scientist in
 me... says shut up, listen, and then argue. But the lawyer won on
 appeal, so now I have to argue due to a court order.
 
 Furthermore, if you could be a scientific celebrity, would you want
 einstein sitting around with you on saturday morning, while you're
 sitting in your undies, watching Underdog?...Or better yet, would
 Einstein want you to violate his Underdog time?
 
 Can you imagine Einstein sitting around in his underware? Thinking
 about the relativity between his pubic nardsac, and his Fruit of the
 Looms, while knocking a few Dorito's crumbs off his inner brilliant
 white thighs, and hailing E = mc**2, and licking the orangy,
 delicious, Doritoey crust that layered his genetically rippled
 fingertips?
 
 But then again, J. Edgar Hoover would want his pantyhose intertwined
 within the equation.
 
 However, I digress, momentarily.
 
 But Einstein gave freely, for humanity, not for gain, other than
 personal freedom.
 
 An equation that benefited all, and yet gain is a personal product.
 
 Also, if you can answer it, is gravity anymore than interplanetary static 
 cling?
 



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Re: Changing a pixel

2011-01-22 Thread David Hutto
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Shane Fagan
shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hey David,

 This isnt the list for development questions. It would take a bit of
 explaining about the graphics stack to give you a solid answer.

Thanks, I'll post there.

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Re: Rescue Mode Grub--Questions

2011-01-22 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:32:05 -0700
rypedge...@operamail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Where am I supposed to be...?
 Not RescueMode (I don't find this option)?
 
 Rescue Mode Grub
 Case ID: res-004
 Select Reinstall GRUB boot loader and press Enter/!\ Doing this will
 remove your Grub config and mbr and place a new automatic version in it's
 place.
 
 also
 
 Rescue Mode Change Root
 
 Case ID: res-005 /!\ This case requires more than one root partition
 1. Select Choose a different root file system
 
 
 Should I have 2 OS's on this drive, to start?
 
 And when completed, is there a wiki template to post results? Or make
 one?
 
 Thanks ~
 stanz
 

The first question, I think Rescue is called RecoveryMode on later
menus. 

The second question, not every test case applies to every installation.
To have more than one root partition requires that you have installed
using two partitions. If you used the entire drive for the
installation, that test case does not apply to your installation.

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Found reading glasses...

2011-01-22 Thread rypedgenes
Hi all,
I've found my reading glasses...can I edit my other mails? :)

I completed the case:RescueModeGrub, and still figure to split a drive
for the RescueModeChangeRoot.

I reported 2 bugs, for the Alt64-OEM install and ask if someone has time
to look and confirm I'm doing them ok...I'd feel better!  :)

As for reports/results? I'm still fuzzy on that.

Thanks,
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Re: Rescue Mode Grub--Questions

2011-01-22 Thread rypedgenes
 Thanks Charlie !
I just mailed back, before your reply got here.

Ok, I'll get started on partitioning...!

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Re: VirtualBox OSE--Testing

2011-01-22 Thread rypedgenes
 Ohh, not good news!
Guess I've wasted a whole lotta' of time here..  :(
Will check  if ios's are back to cd size.
I'd use usb/dvd if I one.

Will back out of current testscheck back later,
stanz

  Just a note.
  If you are going to test your laptop, you need to do it with real
  hardware, not a virtualised one.
  So I would suggest you to create a bootable usb live disk.

  Best regards,
  Sergio.

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Re: VirtualBox OSE--Testing

2011-01-22 Thread David Hutto
protocol, regex for the stack, and then do whatever. Am I correct?

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Re: VirtualBox OSE--Testing

2011-01-22 Thread rypedgenes
 ...and then I find:
Virtual machines are also a good option (and a nice helper to boot an
Ubuntu ISO is testdrive).
;)

  - protocol, regex for the stack, and then do whatever. Am I
  correct?

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Rescue Mode Grub--Questions

2011-01-21 Thread rypedgenes
Hi All,

Where am I supposed to be...?
Not RescueMode (I don't find this option)?

Rescue Mode Grub
Case ID: res-004
Select Reinstall GRUB boot loader and press Enter/!\ Doing this will
remove your Grub config and mbr and place a new automatic version in it's
place.

also

Rescue Mode Change Root

Case ID: res-005 /!\ This case requires more than one root partition
1. Select Choose a different root file system


Should I have 2 OS's on this drive, to start?

And when completed, is there a wiki template to post results? Or make
one?

Thanks ~
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VirtualBox OSE--Testing

2011-01-20 Thread rypedgenes
Hello All,
While I have some time to test--I'm gonna jump right in!

I've acquired both natty-desktop  alternate-amd64.
Being their both to large for a CdRom, I'll run them in VirtualBox OSE.
--Is this ok for these tests?

I'm running the 'OEM install' and find some questions out of order.
--Is this trivial, or can I assist in corrections? {I'm documenting..}

If needed: My wiki TestingLaptopReport for Laptop specs.

Thanks,
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2011-01-17 Ubuntu LTS and SRU bi-weekly - minutes

2011-01-18 Thread Kate Stewart
Thanks to those of you who were able to attend the meeting earlier
today.  For those of you on holiday, please scan the minutes.

Highlights:

10.04.2
- targetted for release on 2/17
- freeze is 1/20 (this Thursday)... get your bug fixes in now.
- QA and HW cert testing between 10.04.2 and Natty Alpha 2 will be
consuming most of the testing cycles.  Will be defering an SRU cycle
until after 10.04.2 goes out. 

SRU
-  -proposed candidate Maverick(Bug:697948) and Lucid(Bug:699885)
kernels released on 1/11. 
- Lucid -proposed candidate is likely to be 10.04.2 kernel 

The meetings will be shifting from bi-weekly to weekly for next few
weeks until after 10.04.2 is released.   

Victor Pilau will host the next SRU/LTS meeting on 1/24.

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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 13ubuntu server 9.04

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 Hi, I'm going to test Ubuntu 11.04 alpha on a dell laptop with wubi. I got
 error when using virtualbox so I'm not sure if it will install. If i get
 errors i will report on mail. I will test if it works for my use (wireless
 network, music, pictures, internet, games and more).
 I will send a report every week.

 Thank you for testing. Please file bugs that you find on launchpad.
 Reporting them in an email will not give the developers the information
 and tracking needed to get them fixed.

 The Ubuntu Maverick hang after 30 seconds so that OS doesn't work. If i'm
 not wrong, 11.04 would be an LTS wouldn't it?
 I have the ISO but i don't have the right wubi installer. Can someone help
 me with that?

 10.04 was the latest LTS release. The next one will be 12.04, if
 released at the two year interval that has been used. The list of
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 I am testing out Natty on my laptop.  I have been reading about
 restricted driver breaking compiz and Xserver.  I would like to test out
 the new Xserver in the ppa that was mentioned in the list last week.  At
 the present time I do not have the restricted driver for my AMD chipset
 installed.  Should I be installing these driver before or during testing?

 This is the first time that I have started to test out Xserver
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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 9

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Hi Daniel,

 Thanks for your help. I am also involved with the Ubntu youth team. Have
fun brea... I mean testing. :)

With all due respect,


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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 8

2011-01-12 Thread Hakim Sheriff
Hey,
 Welcome to the team, I am also(like you) in the Ubuntu youth and a padawan
in the Ubuntu beginners team. See you on the team IRC channel

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 mean testing things. For those of you not reading my blog (so all of you) I
 am Daniel L. I am a member of the Ubuntu-Youth team and a padawan of the
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Introducing Daniel L. (CensoredBiscuit)

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Hello all,

I have recently decided to help the Ubuntu community by upgrading my 
laptop to 11.04. For those of you who don't know, I'm very execellent at 
brea I mean testing things. For those of you not reading my blog (so 
all of you) I am Daniel L. I am a member of the Ubuntu-Youth team and a 
padawan of the Ubuntu-beginners-team. I am very excitied to get to work, 
checking out 11.04 and meeting you all.


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Jittery Youtube

2011-01-09 Thread David Hutto
I'm not sure of the process that takes place from the youtube screen
to the scraper that generates the lareger image, but apparently the
process travels through something else and is far too jittery. If you
can fix it cool, if not give me a hint and I'll try on my own, other
than taggin youtube myself, and grabbing the screen. Just give me a
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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 4(VPN using ubuntu server with windows based 3g dongle)

2011-01-06 Thread hector kilembe
Hi guys i am trying to setup a vpn using 3g dongles on ubuntu server
,and am waiting to use the dongles as the are windows based ! Its a
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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 39, Issue 1

2011-01-05 Thread Manish Sinha
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Anindya Sanyal anindyasany...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey, The ubuntu 10.10 version's softwere manager didn't work. Whats
 the solution?


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Synaptic package manager

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10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Linden
On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on toolbar
its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
10.10?


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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Charles Profitt
On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
 On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on toolbar
 its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
 10.10?
 
 

Nice catch... yes my computer is reporting that I am running Natty
Narwhal.

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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Robert Ian Hawdon
 On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
  On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on toolbar
  its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
  10.10?
 
 Nice catch... yes my computer is reporting that I am running Natty
 Narwhal.
 
 ~ cprofitt

I'm running Kubuntu, and I don't think there's an About Kubuntu item in the 
K Menu, but when I run:

cat /etc/issue

I get:

Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l

So, I'm guessing the About Ubuntu program doesn't call the /etc/issue file for 
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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Jeremy
I got the same thing, even though the terminal said I'm still running 10.10.

aerom...@aeromech-laptop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:Ubuntu
Description:Ubuntu 10.10
Release:10.10
Codename:maverick


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 On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
  On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on toolbar
  its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
  10.10?
 
 

 Nice catch... yes my computer is reporting that I am running Natty
 Narwhal.

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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Linden
what Ver are you using of kubuntu?

On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 19:24 +, Robert Ian Hawdon wrote:
  On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
 
   On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on
 toolbar
 
   its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on
 there
 
   10.10?
 
  
 
  Nice catch... yes my computer is reporting that I am running Natty
 
  Narwhal.
 
  
 
  ~ cprofitt
 
 I'm running Kubuntu, and I don't think there's an About Kubuntu item
 in the K Menu, but when I run:
 
 cat /etc/issue
 
 I get:
 
 Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
 
 So, I'm guessing the About Ubuntu program doesn't call the /etc/issue
 file for the actual version.
 
 
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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Linden
I had made a Bug report knowing that its with other people and not just
me.

I reported it as a security vulnerability as other files from 11.04
could be getting mixed with 11.04 that could caused a system
vulnerability 

Please go here an an report if you are affected or not.

On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:19 -0500, Charles Profitt wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
  On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on toolbar
  its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
  10.10?
  
  
 
 Nice catch... yes my computer is reporting that I am running Natty
 Narwhal.
 
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Re: 10.10 / 11.04 error?

2010-12-26 Thread Omer Akram
seems like your link left behind here is the bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/694558

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Linden linden@gmail.com wrote:

 I had made a Bug report knowing that its with other people and not just
 me.

 I reported it as a security vulnerability as other files from 11.04
 could be getting mixed with 11.04 that could caused a system
 vulnerability

 Please go here an an report if you are affected or not.

 On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 14:19 -0500, Charles Profitt wrote:
  On Sun, 2010-12-26 at 12:56 -0600, Linden wrote:
   On my computer I am running 10.10 but if I go to About Ubuntu on
 toolbar
   its saying I am using 11.04. Is anyone else having the same on there
   10.10?
  
  
 
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Ubuntu 10.10 - Compiz

2010-12-26 Thread Linden
I had been trying to dubugging things an running into a brick wall an
cant get the settings to stick but sure what could be wrong here..take
a look of the video so you can see what I am talking about. 

the you-tube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPzlV7uLmJw


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Hello all

2010-12-24 Thread ukyo yagamura
Hello all,

My name is Ukyo Yagamura. I've experienced as Ubuntu user for almost 3 year
(since Ubuntu 7.04) and 1 year in developing linux device drivers for
embeded device.

Nowadays, I'm working at Telecom network operator in Bangkok, Thailand. My
work usually involves opensource softwares in the communication system.

It is a great pleasure to be here as Ubuntu volunteer.
Thank you for this opportunity.

BRs,
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Unity Testing in a VM

2010-12-23 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi all,

Oracle released VirtualBox 4.0 yesterday.

Amongst other major changes [1] one the most noticeable improvement is
that they fixed Unity/Compiz crashes in Natty. This means that we can
now run Unity in a VM and the performances are pretty good.

To enable 3D support in VBox, download and install VBox 4.0 [2], install
the guest additions, then verify that the 3D driver is enabled:

$ glxinfo|grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Chromium

Happy Unity Testing, we are waiting for your feedback.

[1] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog
[2] http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads

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[no subject]

2010-12-14 Thread unkn%9wn%3^
hello,
My name is Blacktee I want to help the Ubuntu development.
I totally agree with the Open Software philosophy.
My competences are not very well in programmation but I can also: 
-test the ISO images
-give my opinion
-create graphics content
-test the features
I hope that I’ll be useful for Ubuntu.


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lp:~ubuntuqa bot has no description

2010-12-08 Thread Nobuto MURATA
Hi Ubuntu QA team,

In Launchpad, ubuntuqa(Ubuntu QA Website) acount[1], tags bugs related to ISO
testing as iso-testing. However it has no description on LP profile page.

When I saw it for the first time, I felt strange and even thought it's a spam
account. But now, I understand that it's a bot for auto-tagging. I think it's
good to display an explanation what the bot is for on the account's description
like the text below. It may be helpful.

-
This is a bot owned by Ubuntu QA team[2].

This bot automatically adds iso-testing tag to bugs reported as related on
Ubuntu ISO testing tracker[3]. For more information, please refer ISO testing
page[4].
-

How do you think?

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CORRECTION:Re: Reminder: Kernel Bug Day Today!

2010-12-07 Thread Jeremy Foshee
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 09:24:31AM -0500, Jeremy Foshee wrote:
 Folks,
This is a gentle reminder that today is the Kernel Bug Day focusing
 on bugs that have patches attached. Our goal is to close out all of the
 old bugs and work through the bugs that are relevant from an SRU or
 development standpoint. One major aspect of this effort will be to
 correctly identify and remove the indicator on those bugs that do not
 have valid patches.
 
It seems I incorrectly identified this for bugs with patches (one of my
work items for today)

The correct focus should be the bugs tagged regression-update as
identified in my previous e-mail on the subject as well as the bug day
page on the wiki.

Apologies for any confusion. :-)

~JFo
 I'll be available in #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-kernel on the Freenode IRC
 server if there are any questions. :-)
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-12-07 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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 Subject: Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC -
 #ubuntu-quality
 
 Just a quick reminder that Wednesday (December 12th, 2010)
 we are having a regular QA meeting at 18:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality.
 Chair will be charlie-tca.
 
 Agenda, so far, looks like this:
 
  * review previous action items (all)
  * SRU Report -- jibel
  * Bugday -- pedro_
  * Any Other Business
  * Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca 
 
 Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at:
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
 
 Thanks,
 

I apologize for this. My calendar got lost in the merges. The meeting
will really be held on Wednesday, December 8, 2010


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Writing a mago test

2010-12-07 Thread Brian Murray
I was looking at http://launchpad.net/bugs/675063 today and was
wondering if this was something that we could test with mago.  I wasn't
sure about how to test the contents of a specific cell in gnome-sudoku.

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Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-12-06 Thread Charlie Kravetz
Subject: Meeting Wednesday December 12th, 2010, 18:00 UTC -
#ubuntu-quality

Just a quick reminder that Wednesday (December 12th, 2010)
we are having a regular QA meeting at 18:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality.
Chair will be charlie-tca.

Agenda, so far, looks like this:

 * review previous action items (all)
 * SRU Report -- jibel
 * Bugday -- pedro_
 * Any Other Business
 * Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca 

Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

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Re: Packages to investigate

2010-12-03 Thread Brian Murray
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:51:19AM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote:
 On 11/22/2010 10:22 PM, Brian Murray wrote:
  As we all know there are a lot of packages and bugs to keep track of in
  Ubuntu.  One idea that occurred to me recently, to help identify
  packages in need of triage, was to calculate an average bug heat for the
  particular package.  I've made a first pass at this using all the
  packages in the ubuntu-desktop package set.  Here are the top 10
  packages:
  
  usb-modeswitch-data - median: 764, mode: 1448
  language-pack-gnome-fa-base - median: 408, mode: 408
  language-pack-gnome-pt - median: 318, mode: 318
  couchdb-glib - median: 210, mode: 210
  netbook-meta - median: 145, mode: 408
  pyopenssl - median: 136, mode: 259
  shotwell - median: 124, mode: 6
  appmenu-gtk - median: 122, mode: 408
  gnome-python-extras - median: 114, mode: 3
  telepathy-gabble - median: 104, mode: 49
  
  As I ran this last Friday there might be some variance in the numbers.
  I'm curious whether or not you think the bug reports for these packages
  really need reviewing.
  
  Thanks,
  
 Thanks Brian. This is really interesting. If we apply this calculation
 to the packages installed by default in Natty, the top 10 looks like:
 shotwell - median: 189
 empathy - median: 91
 gcalctool - median: 86
 gbrainy - median: 86
 gwibber - median: 81
 simple-scan - median: 76
 software-center - median: 68
 pitivi - median: 68
 transmission - median: 60
 gnome-bluetooth - median: 59
 
 Compared to the list based on the number of bugs:
 evolution
 firefox
 gdmsetup
 nautilus
 nm-connection-editor
 ooffice
 software-center
 totem
 update-manager
 
 So I can not say that this is the list that I had in mind, but the
 result is expected.
 When we build the list based on volume of bugs, we get the most used
 applications. But when we use the bug heat we get the applications with
 fewer bugs but which are in need of triage (I'm not saying that the
 applications with a large number of bugs don't need triage)
 
 The list needs a closer look though. For instance:
 - shotwell is in 1rst position, but when I look at the reports, there
 are 2 bugs with a heat of 3491, and I don't see anything specific that
 could explain such a value. Is it the weight of untriaged report being a
 bit too important or something else ? It doesn't seem to match the bug
 heat algorithm.

Looking closer at the bug heat algorithm it seems that a fair bit of it
is based on recent activity.  From some of the documentation the theory
follows:

Bug has been active within the past 24 hours
Add 25% of the project's hottest bug's score divided by the number
of days since the first activity on the bug in question

Bug has not been active* in within the past 24 hours
Subtract 1% of the bug heat score for every day of inactivity

So it seems to follow that the newest bugs will the highest heat.

I guess there is a larger question of what we think makes a bug hot.
Initially, I thought the number of users affected, number of subscribers
and number of duplicates (among some other things) was a good indicator.
Two out of those three things are now cached on the bug table so we
could recreate the bug heat without taking into account recent activity.
I feel like this might provide a more useful number.

 - gbrainy, I was surprised to find a game in the list. In fact, there is
 a very limited number of bugs filed against this package and some of
 them with high heat. I've triaged the report with the highest heat
 (300) and it fell to a heat of 12. So the next run of your script
 should move it lower into the list.
 - gcalctool, same thing, the first bug had a heat of 237, and after
 asking for more information it fell to 8.
 
 So, yes, this is useful to help us to direct our testing and triaging
 effort. But the calculation of the bug heat needs to be clarified.
 Maybe this could be added to the 'Opportunities' list in harvest ?

By this do you mean the hottest, those outside the standard deviation,
bugs for a package should be listed as an opportunity in harvest?

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Re: Packages to investigate

2010-11-30 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
On 11/22/2010 10:22 PM, Brian Murray wrote:
 As we all know there are a lot of packages and bugs to keep track of in
 Ubuntu.  One idea that occurred to me recently, to help identify
 packages in need of triage, was to calculate an average bug heat for the
 particular package.  I've made a first pass at this using all the
 packages in the ubuntu-desktop package set.  Here are the top 10
 packages:
 
 usb-modeswitch-data - median: 764, mode: 1448
 language-pack-gnome-fa-base - median: 408, mode: 408
 language-pack-gnome-pt - median: 318, mode: 318
 couchdb-glib - median: 210, mode: 210
 netbook-meta - median: 145, mode: 408
 pyopenssl - median: 136, mode: 259
 shotwell - median: 124, mode: 6
 appmenu-gtk - median: 122, mode: 408
 gnome-python-extras - median: 114, mode: 3
 telepathy-gabble - median: 104, mode: 49
 
 As I ran this last Friday there might be some variance in the numbers.
 I'm curious whether or not you think the bug reports for these packages
 really need reviewing.
 
 Thanks,
 
Thanks Brian. This is really interesting. If we apply this calculation
to the packages installed by default in Natty, the top 10 looks like:
shotwell - median: 189
empathy - median: 91
gcalctool - median: 86
gbrainy - median: 86
gwibber - median: 81
simple-scan - median: 76
software-center - median: 68
pitivi - median: 68
transmission - median: 60
gnome-bluetooth - median: 59

Compared to the list based on the number of bugs:
evolution
firefox
gdmsetup
nautilus
nm-connection-editor
ooffice
software-center
totem
update-manager

So I can not say that this is the list that I had in mind, but the
result is expected.
When we build the list based on volume of bugs, we get the most used
applications. But when we use the bug heat we get the applications with
fewer bugs but which are in need of triage (I'm not saying that the
applications with a large number of bugs don't need triage)

The list needs a closer look though. For instance:
- shotwell is in 1rst position, but when I look at the reports, there
are 2 bugs with a heat of 3491, and I don't see anything specific that
could explain such a value. Is it the weight of untriaged report being a
bit too important or something else ? It doesn't seem to match the bug
heat algorithm.
- gbrainy, I was surprised to find a game in the list. In fact, there is
a very limited number of bugs filed against this package and some of
them with high heat. I've triaged the report with the highest heat
(300) and it fell to a heat of 12. So the next run of your script
should move it lower into the list.
- gcalctool, same thing, the first bug had a heat of 237, and after
asking for more information it fell to 8.

So, yes, this is useful to help us to direct our testing and triaging
effort. But the calculation of the bug heat needs to be clarified.
Maybe this could be added to the 'Opportunities' list in harvest ?

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Kernel Bug Day Tuesday, 7 December, 2010

2010-11-30 Thread Jeremy Foshee
Folks,
It's time for another Kernel Bug Day. We'll be focusing on the Bugs
tagged as regression-update [1]. There are currently 118 of these bugs 
with the vast majority needing tobe tested against the current release 
as well as the version under development. Any of you who would like to 
get a head start on triagingthes bugs, please feel free to do so. As usual, 
the resources needed to triage these bugs appropriately are located on the 
ubuntu wiki: General Triaging [2], Kernel Specific triage topics [3] and 
the Kernel Tagging page [4]. I'll be putting more information concerning 
this bug day up on the wiki [5] so check it often. Please feel free to 
contact me with any questions you may have.

Thanks!

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[1]https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.tag=regression-updatefield.tags_combinator=ALL
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You're invited to join Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 1 ISO Testing

2010-11-29 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Hi everyone!

Natty Alpha 1 is due this week and candidate images will start appearing
hopefully on Tuesday.

As usual we'll be asking everyone on the QA team to participate in the
image testing to ensure we have good test coverage.

The procedures for testing ISO images and reporting results are
explained on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures

Test results will be tracked on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

You may have accounts on the tracker from last time. Please register if
you are new to this.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We will coordinate testing in #ubuntu-testing on freenode. Please, go
there often to see what others are testing or what needs to be tested.

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Re: Packages to investigate

2010-11-28 Thread Omer Akram
Hello Brian!

shotwell is in quite a good shape since every bug is triaged by shotwell
developers themselves. appmenu-gtk does not have too many bugs or anything
serious except for some compatibility issues. gabble have a very few bugs
reported half of which are not-so-serious crash reports. so I think this
method of evaluation is not accurate.

So this

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Brian Murray br...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 As we all know there are a lot of packages and bugs to keep track of in
 Ubuntu.  One idea that occurred to me recently, to help identify
 packages in need of triage, was to calculate an average bug heat for the
 particular package.  I've made a first pass at this using all the
 packages in the ubuntu-desktop package set.  Here are the top 10
 packages:

 usb-modeswitch-data - median: 764, mode: 1448
 language-pack-gnome-fa-base - median: 408, mode: 408
 language-pack-gnome-pt - median: 318, mode: 318
 couchdb-glib - median: 210, mode: 210
 netbook-meta - median: 145, mode: 408
 pyopenssl - median: 136, mode: 259
 shotwell - median: 124, mode: 6
 appmenu-gtk - median: 122, mode: 408
 gnome-python-extras - median: 114, mode: 3
 telepathy-gabble - median: 104, mode: 49

 As I ran this last Friday there might be some variance in the numbers.
 I'm curious whether or not you think the bug reports for these packages
 really need reviewing.

 Thanks,
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Introducing Products

2010-11-23 Thread Emmet Hikory
In the testing team, we've been using the concept of product for
some time, to better identify the artifacts that capture our
attention, but I am unsure that this concept has been shared with the
wider development community.

   A product is an image containing some portion of Ubuntu software,
targeted for some specific installation environment, and released
following our release management processes.  Some examples of our
current products include:

Ubuntu Desktop Live i386
Ubuntu Server Alternate amd64
Kubuntu Desktop Live powerpc
Ubuntu Netbook Preinstalled armel+omap3

   In an attempt to better manage our products, and ensure that each
product is well tested and well supported, a more formal means of
tracking products is being established, so that each product must be
deliberately selected by some team willing to commit to the validation
and certification processes, consisting of those who have both the
necessary hardware and familiarity with the software to provide
effective testing; and each product must have a nominated product
manager.

   Towards that end, each flavour team should consider which
installation targets they wish to support, and identify a product
manager who will be available as a contact for the release team to
provide confirmation of the completion of milestone validations and
release approval for each product.  Depending on the internal
organisation of any specific flavour team, these product managers
might be part of the development team, part of the testing team, or
part of a management team.  In all cases, the nominated product
managers should have access to the installation environment towards
which their product is targeted.

   Those interested in following the specifics of the implementation
are encouraged to subscribe to the relevant specification (1), which
will be used for the tracking of the implementation.

   I will be contacting each flavour team in the near future to
discuss the available installation targets and the set of products to
be released with Ubuntu 11.04.  Once complete, the set of images
produced will be limited to only include those for which product
managers have been nominated.

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Re: Introducing Products

2010-11-23 Thread Tim Gardner
On 11/22/2010 01:02 PM, Emmet Hikory wrote:
 In the testing team, we've been using the concept of product for
 some time, to better identify the artifacts that capture our
 attention, but I am unsure that this concept has been shared with
 the wider development community.

 A product is an image containing some portion of Ubuntu software,
 targeted for some specific installation environment, and released
 following our release management processes.  Some examples of our
 current products include:

 Ubuntu Desktop Live i386 Ubuntu Server Alternate amd64 Kubuntu
 Desktop Live powerpc Ubuntu Netbook Preinstalled armel+omap3

 In an attempt to better manage our products, and ensure that each
 product is well tested and well supported, a more formal means of
 tracking products is being established, so that each product must be
 deliberately selected by some team willing to commit to the
 validation and certification processes, consisting of those who have
 both the necessary hardware and familiarity with the software to
 provide effective testing; and each product must have a nominated
 product manager.

 Towards that end, each flavour team should consider which
 installation targets they wish to support, and identify a product
 manager who will be available as a contact for the release team to
 provide confirmation of the completion of milestone validations and
 release approval for each product.  Depending on the internal
 organisation of any specific flavour team, these product managers
 might be part of the development team, part of the testing team, or
 part of a management team.  In all cases, the nominated product
 managers should have access to the installation environment towards
 which their product is targeted.

 Those interested in following the specifics of the implementation are
 encouraged to subscribe to the relevant specification (1), which will
 be used for the tracking of the implementation.

 I will be contacting each flavour team in the near future to discuss
 the available installation targets and the set of products to be
 released with Ubuntu 11.04.  Once complete, the set of images
 produced will be limited to only include those for which product
 managers have been nominated.

 1:
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-qa-n-testing-different-architectures

  -- Emmet HIKORY


I like your proposal. In the past, due to the somewhat chaotic ARM 
planning process, the kernel team has spent time and energy on ARM 
branches for platforms that nobody has actually used. We have since 
retired some ARM branches as obsolete and unmaintained.

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Meeting tomorrow - 18:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-11-23 Thread Mohammed Amine IL Idrissi
Hello all!

Just a quick reminder that tomorrow November 23rd we are having a
regular QA meeting at 18:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality. Chair will be devildante.

Agenda, so far, looks like this:

 * review previous action items (all)
 * SRU Report -- jibel
 * Bugday -- pedro_
 * Selection of new chair -- devildante

Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

Thank you,
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Packages to investigate

2010-11-22 Thread Brian Murray
As we all know there are a lot of packages and bugs to keep track of in
Ubuntu.  One idea that occurred to me recently, to help identify
packages in need of triage, was to calculate an average bug heat for the
particular package.  I've made a first pass at this using all the
packages in the ubuntu-desktop package set.  Here are the top 10
packages:

usb-modeswitch-data - median: 764, mode: 1448
language-pack-gnome-fa-base - median: 408, mode: 408
language-pack-gnome-pt - median: 318, mode: 318
couchdb-glib - median: 210, mode: 210
netbook-meta - median: 145, mode: 408
pyopenssl - median: 136, mode: 259
shotwell - median: 124, mode: 6
appmenu-gtk - median: 122, mode: 408
gnome-python-extras - median: 114, mode: 3
telepathy-gabble - median: 104, mode: 49

As I ran this last Friday there might be some variance in the numbers.
I'm curious whether or not you think the bug reports for these packages
really need reviewing.

Thanks,
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Re: Interpreting test results across test runs

2010-11-17 Thread Marc Tardif
* Zygmunt Krynicki zygmunt.kryni...@canonical.com [2010-11-12 00:02 +0100]:
 W dniu 03.11.2010 17:22, Marc Tardif pisze:
[snip]
  My question is: can we make any reasonable assumptions about the tests
  that were not run? This can be a matter of opinion where one extreme
  might not make any assumptions at all, whereas another extreme might
  assume that test results remain the same until proven otherwise. So,
  I'm calling for your opinions on what you consider is reasonable.
 
 Unless you have reliable information on how to handle such condition in
 the test case meta data *and* can sufficiently guarantee that the
 meda-data is accurate and up-to-date then you should do very little more
 than notify the user that the particular test was not run (or not
 present in the test result data, I don't know how you handle that part).

I'm not so much concerned about implementation details, so please disregard
any handling part. My question is purely conceptual when interpreting
test results across multiple test runs. I'm simply wondering what kind of
assumptions are reasonable in order to represent this information in a way
that matches user expectations.

Chris Gregan and his team, Massimo in particular, are particularly prone
to this use case where only running a single test should essentially
inherit the results from the previous test run. This is probably a side
effect of having to run manual tests because it's very resources intensive
to run all the tests again.

In additioni to this use case, I believe that this is actually quite common
when running automated unit tests. For example, if I just run the tests for
a particular module, I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume that all
the other tests still have the same results until proven otherwise, ie
until running the whole test suite again.

Furthermore, I also think it's helpful to make this assumption that test
results remain the same until proven otherwise when reporting test results.
When I look at a project, I want to see the all the latest test results
even though they might not have all run at the same time.

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Re: Launch Control PPA

2010-11-15 Thread James Westby
On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:33:40 +1300, Michael Hudson 
michael.hud...@canonical.com wrote:
 separate releases ppa (which might be named like the current one) that
 you upload releases to manually.

Or trigger recipe builds in to manually.

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Re: Launch Control PPA

2010-11-15 Thread Michael Hudson
On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:55:46 -0400, James Westby james.wes...@canonical.com 
wrote:
 On Fri, 05 Nov 2010 10:33:40 +1300, Michael Hudson 
 michael.hud...@canonical.com wrote:
  separate releases ppa (which might be named like the current one) that
  you upload releases to manually.
 
 Or trigger recipe builds in to manually.

I was thinking that for releases, you'd want a non-native package.  But
maybe that's just being picky :-)

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[no subject]

2010-11-12 Thread Hakim Sheriff
Hi,
I was was told I had to send a message with my goals and interests so here
they are:

I want to help Ubuntu and help it develop because I think it is awesome and
it is awesome that it is free.
That's pretty much it.

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Meeting notes 2010/11/03 (and meeting today at 19UTC!)

2010-11-10 Thread Ara Pulido
Hello all,

Sorry for being late with the notes.

== SRU Testing (jibel) ==

 * Over the past 2 weeks 187 packages have been published to stable
releases. The complete report can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/SRUReports/2010-11-03

 * There was a discussion about including SRU testing opportunities in

http://harvest.ubuntu.com
as there is also an ongoing effort of adding triaging opportunities to
Harvest.

== UDS Feedback (all) ==

 * People missed the QA roundtable. We are bringing it back in the next UDS.
 * People found hard to find QA related topics with the new tracks. A
possible solution would be to tag (and this was Marjo proposal) each
session with relevant tags.

== AOB ==

 * Marjo reminded the need of updating the blueprints

This summary and the complete logs are available at:

   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/20101103

Next meeting is today at 19:00UTC. Pedro will be chairing the meeting.

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Re: Introduction

2010-11-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
On 11/01/2010 10:01 PM, Charles Profitt wrote:
 Hello all:
 
 My name is Charles Profitt (irc cprofitt)
Welcome Charles, that's great to see you here!

 
 I recently went to UDS and learned about the QA and Testing teams. I
 would like to join for two purposes.
 
 1.  To perform some QA work myself
 2.  To learn more about the QA team so I can help people interested in
 contributing to Ubuntu make a transition from user to QA team member
 (this is as part of the Beginners Team).
 
 I have put in a join request on the LP page as well. I look forward to
 learning to work with you guys more and learning more about the QA
 process / team.
 
 Thanks,
 
 ~ cprofitt
 


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Introduction Andree Wille

2010-11-04 Thread Andree Wille
Hi,

i'm Andree Wille from Hamburg, Germany. I'm working as a software tester
(testing rest web services, web applications and mobile applications).

I subscribed to this list to learn more about the qa ubuntu team and how the
team works in order to figure out where i could help.

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Re: Introduction Andree Wille

2010-11-04 Thread Ara Pulido


On 04/11/10 13:26, Andree Wille wrote:
 Hi,
 
 i'm Andree Wille from Hamburg, Germany. I'm working as a software tester
 (testing rest web services, web applications and mobile applications).

Great, welcome!
 
 I subscribed to this list to learn more about the qa ubuntu team and how
 the team works in order to figure out where i could help.
 
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Launch Control PPA

2010-11-04 Thread Zygmunt Krynicki
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Hello everyone.

With the help of Paul Larson we now have a Launch Control PPA.
Currently it does not have the most interesting package (dashboard) but
we're slowly getting there.

The ppa is at:
https://edge.launchpad.net/~linaro-infrastructure/+archive/launch-control

I have created a daily build of the first package: python-linaro-json.
This package contains the JSON utilities that I've developed for launch
control. As soon as the dust settles out and I'm comfortable with
packaging I'll release and upload a non-daily build. (Q: what is the
best way do to that with launchpad?)

Next in the queue for that PPA is a python package for working with
dashboard bundle files (extracted from the current dashboard code base).
I hope that those two packages can make it to natty eventually and help
the nice folks in Ubuntu QA to produce test results not as unstructured
text files but as bundle files. Hopefully this will allow them to store
those files as they currently do and later on decide to either push them
to a dashboard instance of their choice or convert them to launchpad
subunit format  (yes! it's _should_ be possible to convert all data to
subunit) once that is ready for production.

Feedback welcome :-)

Best regards
ZK
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Re: Interpreting test results across test runs

2010-11-04 Thread Chris Gregan
On 11/03/2010 12:22 PM, Marc Tardif wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I would appreciate your feedback about interpreting test results across
 multiple test runs. For example, consider the following test results for
 the first test run of a given project:

test1: Pass
test2: Pass
test3: Fail

 Then, consider the following partial test results for a second test run
 of the same project:

test1: Pass

 The second test run only executed the first test and, for the sake of
 this example, we can safely assume that this was deliberate and the
 test runner process did not crash and burn.


 My question is: can we make any reasonable assumptions about the tests
 that were not run?

The assumption is that something was changed in the release that QA 
thought could break test1 so only ran it to confirm. The traditional 
assumption for the other cases is that their previous run states have 
not changed as well.

 assume that test results remain the same until proven otherwise.

Exactly

So,
 I'm calling for your opinions on what you consider is reasonable.

 Thanks!



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Meeting tomorrow at 17UTC

2010-11-02 Thread Ara Pulido
Hello all,

Tomorrow meeting will be at #ubuntu-quality at 17UTC.

Please, be careful, as if you live in a country that just finished the
summer daylight savings, that means that the meeting will be an hour
earlier (your local time).

That's because our meeting times are always related to UTC (no daylight
savings).

Chair of the meeting will be pedro.

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Re: Outdated Laptop Test plan makes testing a less pleasant experience

2010-10-24 Thread Sergio Zanchetta
2010/10/15 Daniel Kulesz daniel.kul...@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de

Hello Daniel!

exc-001: There is no example folder / symlink anymore, the content was moved
 to /usr/share/example-content already some time ago. It is not clear which
 files / applications are targetted, and what the expected output is. (not
 only
 the applications should start correctly, but they should also handle the
 files
 correctly)


In fact I don't know how to handle this, because I don't know actual and
future plans about this folder.
Suggestions and comments are welcome.


 snr-001: Entering the password is not needed when testing via LiveCD, this
 should be mentioned.


Done.


 snr-002: Executing more than 30 cycles of sleep/wakeup could lead to
 hardware
 damage, limiting the cycles to 5 should be really enough!


This kind of test is present even in checkbox, I don't have an answer about
this.
Maybe a member of kernel team could clarify this.


 him-001: It is not clear, if this applies only to internal card readers
 only.


It should be clear because it's in the system section. External card
reader tests are in USB section (hum-*).


 khk-001: The expected behaviour is, that Ubuntu also shows the volume meter
 on
 screen; but on many older machines the volume is adjusted, but the user is
 not
 given appropiate (visual) feedback. This should be included in this test
 case
 as well, to spot the affected machines.


This test is about checking if multimedia hotkeys do the appropriate action
after pressing them. (e.g. lowering volume)
Some laptop hotkeys are not mapped yet and this need to be reported (for
example).
The issue you are reporting is a visual one and even if it doesn't seem to
be an hardware problem it should be reported as bug as well, specifying it
on the bug description.



 hsi-001: the media file fables_01_01_aesop.spx seems to be outdated,
 there
 is other media included in 10.10; It should be also verified, that the
 sound
 plays correctly and does not produce any stottering
 hhi-001: see hsi-001


Now it should be ok.


 his-001: Changing refresh rate not covered
 his-001: (video in general) there is no test case to test for fluent video
 playback (maybe except exc-001)


We are testing laptops, that should be important using crt monitors.
About fluent video playback,exc-001 test could be sufficient to cover it.
In fact, an application test (mediaplayer) should be considered, not an
hardware one.


 bfu-001: Not clear, what is meant by app - is this the whole operating
 system?


It should be ok now.


 hpu-002: Ubuntu has various bugs regarding wrong paper size (especially A4
 vs.
 letter) in some drivers, this should be verified here as well.


As mentioned before, this could be considered in an application test, not an
hardware one.
Anyway this shouldn't prevent you or someone else to report and link bugs
you find doing a test, even if not directly related to it.


 hpu-002, hds-001, hds-002, hds-003, hds-004 : missing here - at least some
 of
 them should be included into LaptopTesting as well, this is pretty
 important
 for many mobile users


Good point.



 Other, general aspects:
 * the template for the Laptop entries
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports/Template) is *very*
 incomplete. Most people seem to include info like lshw output, dmidecode
 details etc. - why is this all missing in the template? Therefore, instead
 of
 re-using the template, testers have to copy/paste the structure around from
 existing reports.


This is because the original template included just a table, then some
people start adding other info on their own without mentioning in ML or
changing template.
For Natty I'm going to enrich it with other data to be filled in by users.


 * the main wiki page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop/Reports) has
 no
 consistency regarding the naming of the tested editions


What do you mean?
Putting the edition name in that page should be sufficient.



 It would make testing Ubuntu (Pre-)Releases a much more pleasant
 experience,
 if you could update the test plan and look into the mentioned issues. I
 strongly believe there are much more people out there who would be willing
 to
 contribute to systematic Laptop Testing, but finding the wiki pages and
 test
 plan in the current (not very useable) state could be pretty frustrating.


Thank you very much Daniel for your suggestions.
The laptop testing is a community project so everyone can help and
contribute updating testcases and suggesting improvements etc.
In the future feel free to keep on sharing your thoughts and proposing your
ideas here in ML so we can discuss together.


Regards,
Sergio.

P.S.: Apart from issues you mentioned, I can say that the main problem of
this project is the use of wiki pages to report results.
I proposed a blueprint to integrate the laptop testing in the ISO tracker,
and it'll be discussed at the Ubuntu Developer Summit for Natty [¹]

P.S.2: Thanks to people that helped updating 

Re: Outdated Laptop Test plan makes testing a less pleasant experience

2010-10-24 Thread Daniel Kulesz
Hello Sergio,

thanks a lot for your comprehensive answer. I will try to further clarify / 
refine some of the mentioned points:

 exc-001: There is no example folder / symlink anymore, the content was
 moved
 
  to /usr/share/example-content already some time ago. It is not clear
  which files / applications are targetted, and what the expected output
  is. (not only
  the applications should start correctly, but they should also handle the
  files
  correctly)
 
 In fact I don't know how to handle this, because I don't know actual and
 future plans about this folder.
 Suggestions and comments are welcome.
As far as I understood it, the main goal of the LaptopTesting effort is to do 
a system test for *future* Ubuntu Releases, not for past ones. Therefore - if 
there are any system changes which require changes in existing test cases 
(like with the examples folder) - the changes should be reflected in the test 
plan, so that the testers can execute the test cases on the future (current 
alpha/beta/rc...) pre-releases. Perceiving traceability could be achieved 
simply done by mentioning in the Test Report, against which Test plan 
(=currently that would be the version of the wiki pages) the tests have been 
carried out.

 
  snr-001: Entering the password is not needed when testing via LiveCD,
  this should be mentioned.
 
 Done.
Looks good. Maybe it should be considered tomark the optional test steps more 
eye-catching, i.e.:
3b. (only applies in Live Environment) You should be presented with a password 
prompt; enter your password

  snr-002: Executing more than 30 cycles of sleep/wakeup could lead to
  hardware
  damage, limiting the cycles to 5 should be really enough!
 
 This kind of test is present even in checkbox, I don't have an answer about
 this.
 Maybe a member of kernel team could clarify this.
I would appreciate this very much. Could you try to get an answer from the 
kernel team? (I dunno if they read this list)

  him-001: It is not clear, if this applies only to internal card readers
  only.
 
 It should be clear because it's in the system section. External card
 reader tests are in USB section (hum-*).
Alright, but then some description (just one sentence) of what is meant by 
system level tests would be nice in the test plan, maybe with the remark, 
that tests for hardware which is not present shall be skipped.

 
  khk-001: The expected behaviour is, that Ubuntu also shows the volume
  meter on
  screen; but on many older machines the volume is adjusted, but the user
  is not
  given appropiate (visual) feedback. This should be included in this test
  case
  as well, to spot the affected machines.
 
 This test is about checking if multimedia hotkeys do the appropriate action
 after pressing them. (e.g. lowering volume)
 Some laptop hotkeys are not mapped yet and this need to be reported (for
 example).
 The issue you are reporting is a visual one and even if it doesn't seem
 to be an hardware problem it should be reported as bug as well, specifying
 it on the bug description.
Well yes, it's a usability problem at first sight. But actually there is 
hardware where the driver supports this visual feedback (i.e. on my Thinkpad 
X301) and there is hardware, where the driver does not support that. I guess 
this is related to ACPI event handling etc. - but since the software already 
supports the visual feedback, it's a system bug if the driver does not notify 
the software about the action that happened in here.

  hsi-001: the media file fables_01_01_aesop.spx seems to be outdated,
  there
  is other media included in 10.10; It should be also verified, that the
  sound
  plays correctly and does not produce any stottering
  hhi-001: see hsi-001
 
 Now it should be ok.
Great!

  his-001: Changing refresh rate not covered
  his-001: (video in general) there is no test case to test for fluent
  video playback (maybe except exc-001)
 
 We are testing laptops, that should be important using crt monitors.
 About fluent video playback,exc-001 test could be sufficient to cover it.
 In fact, an application test (mediaplayer) should be considered, not an
 hardware one.
This is also a video driver, and therefore a system issue. On some drivers 
(i.e. Intel GM855) the playback only works in normal window but not in 
fullscreen. There you get either a disorted picture, or not the full available 
screen size is used for feedback. So, there are laptops where it works fine 
(with the same media player version and media file) and there are laptops 
where it fails.

  bfu-001: Not clear, what is meant by app - is this the whole operating
  system?
 
 It should be ok now.
Perfect!

 
  hpu-002: Ubuntu has various bugs regarding wrong paper size (especially
  A4 vs.
  letter) in some drivers, this should be verified here as well.
 
 As mentioned before, this could be considered in an application test, not
 an hardware one.
 Anyway this shouldn't prevent you or someone else to report and link bugs
 you find 

Re: Ubuntu QA Meeting minutes 2010 - 10 - 13

2010-10-14 Thread Paolo Sammicheli
Alle 12:20 del 14/10/2010, Ara Pulido ha scritto:
  * xdatap, on behalf of primes2h, will propose
 https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/laptop-testing-tracker for
 UDS Natty.

After the meeting I fixed the url according the naming standard. Now it's 
renamed to:

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/qa-n-laptop-testing-tracker

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Re: New laptop tester

2010-10-08 Thread Paolo Sammicheli
Alle 00:28 del 8/10/2010, Luca Ferretti ha scritto:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I'm Luca Ferretti (http://launchpad.net/~elle.uca) and now that I
 finally have a true laptop I'll join the laptop testing work :)

Hi Luca, welcome!

It's a real pleasure having you here! :)

Ciao!
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New laptop tester

2010-10-07 Thread Luca Ferretti
Hi everyone,

I'm Luca Ferretti (http://launchpad.net/~elle.uca) and now that I
finally have a true laptop I'll join the laptop testing work :)

The laptop model is Dell Inspiron M301z, I'll perform a full test as
soon as final 10.10 release will be available and a full test for
10.04.1 too in the next days (it's an LTS, we'll support for 3 years).

Cheers, Luca


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Improving Communication Feedback Report

2010-10-06 Thread Ara Pulido
Hello all!

During UDS Maverick we had a session about improving the communication
channels in the Ubuntu QA team. It was more about improving processes,
and using better and more often the channels that we already had.

Now that the Maverick cycle is finishing is time to look back and see
what work well and what didn't work that well, so we can discuss it
during UDS Natty and keep improving our processes.

*The meetings*
One of the main outputs of that session was about the weekly meetings
the we have on IRC. People found that the meeting times were too fixed
and that the meeting minutes were not always sent and stored. Some of
the actions items to improve this situation were:

 * A rotating chair
 * A rotating time of the meeting, to accommodate more people
 * The chair was going to send a summary to the mailing list

The feedback collected from the survey I sent a week ago is very positive:

 * 84.6% of the people that replied the survey thought that the rotation
of time is useful
 * 50% increased their participation thanks to the rotation
 * 100% of the people read the summary sent to the list!

One of the main concerns about the rotation of the meeting is the
predictability. People sometimes are surprised about the time, and can't
make it to the meeting. One possible solution would be that the chair,
instead of sending the reminder the same day or the day before, sends
the reminder on Monday, first thing, so people have a couple of days to
read the email and organize their week.

Another issue related to meetings that I have observed during the
Maverick cycle is that, the chair, if it is the first time that he or
she chairs the meeting, has a very hard time trying to find
documentation on how to chair the meeting, where to get the logs
afterwards, where to put the summary and logs and when to send them. To
solve all of these issues, I have created a small documentation on the
Meetings page to help new people who are chairing to find their way:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing

*The Launchpad Team*
In the Maverick cycle the Ubuntu Testing team got 46 new members and 20
membership expired. That's an increase of 26 members this cycle, which
is an 8.4% increase.

*The Mailing List*
During the Lucid cycle, 404 messages were sent to the mailing list.
During the Maverick cycle 274 messages were sent. We have to take into
account that I counted from May 1st until 30 September (5 months)

That makes an average of 67 messages per month in the Lucid cycle and
68.5 messages per month in the Maverick cycle. Numbers are very similar,
but subscribers have increased a lot in the last cycle, from 703 at the
end of the Lucid cycle to 970 readers subscribers right now. That's an
increase of 37.98%!!

*The IRC channels*
We have three channels QA-related in use: #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu-testing,
#ubuntu-quality. These are the results from the survey when I asked the
question Are you familiar with the following IRC channels?

 * #ubuntu-testing: 91%
 * #ubuntu-quality: 50%
 * #ubuntu-bugs: 50%

The channel #ubuntu-quality seems to be in need of some rethinking. Less
people knows it, very few people actually use it. We should rethink the
way we use this channel and explain better what's its purporse. Any ideas?

Also, although the #ubuntu-bugs channel is used, only half of the people
subscribed to Ubuntu QA is familiar with it. Pedro, can you prepare an
email to Ubuntu QA explaining #ubuntu-bugs channel and other resources
for triagers?

*The new landing page*
We have created a new landing page at http://qa.ubuntu.com but, as the
page just went live a couple of weeks ago, we would gather information
at UDS and we might as for feedback at the end of the Natty cycle, when
we have enough data about it.
One of the suggestions that I got in the survey is that, now that we
have increased participation, it is time to improve the documentation. I
couldn't agree more. I am working with the Community team with their
Community Review project [1] to try to understand what issues the new
contributors have to face before they feel confident contributing.
Improving that new contributor first experience is going to be one of my
goals during Natty cycle.

To sum up, I think that the balance of these changes has been positive.
Let's work together again during Natty UDS and cycle to keep the
improvements and build a great Ubuntu QA community!!

Thanks all!
Ara.

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Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-06 Thread Sulumar

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good, now i can verufue de keys from ubuntu keyserver using enigmail
Thx

Sulumar
PS check mine to see if everything works like it should


On 05/10/10 23:14, Steve Beattie wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:04:45PM +0200, Sulu Mayer wrote:
 Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably
 forgot soething. lol

 It verified here just fine, how is it failing for
 you? Do note that firegpg, which you appear to be using,
 has been discontinued due to the author's inability to
 cope with the frequent changes to the gmail interface; see
 http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2010/06/07/firegpg-discontinued/ for
 more info.

 Sorry you can't make the meeting.

 Thanks.


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Re: 10.10 install bug...untested.

2010-10-06 Thread Linden
Sorry for the real late reply on this...

I got back with him and it ends up being a network hard error (when he
tries to install the OS its locking on cuz of the network card) but its
a old laptop and I dont know the wireless card is but if I find out I
will post it here.

And I have tested the OS on my desktop late last night and had no
problems (maybe only his system with his set-up) 

On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 13:44 -0400, Jeff Lane wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 21:09 -0500, Linden wrote:
  Was talking to a friend on the State TX team and was told that he is
  having some prombles installing 10.10...there maybe a bug in the ISO for
  a fresh install...I will test this once I have some time but if someone
  is able to test this fasterlet me know of the outcome. 
  
  Stephan Harz
 
 Think maybe you could get your friend to provide something useful in the
 way of details?
 
 Saying My friend has a problem installing. it may be a bug. Can you
 test this. really doesn't help much.
 
 FWIW, I've done at least a hundred or so installs of 10.10 going all the
 way back to the first alpha ISO.  The RC had no issues for me at all
 (though there is at least one issue with booting the installed system).
 
 In any case, more details would be helpful here.
 
 Cheers,
 Jeff  
 



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Re: Ubuntu-qa Digest, Vol 36, Issue 1

2010-10-05 Thread Ara Pulido


On 02/10/10 03:04, Sujith S wrote:
 
 
 Hi Friends,
 
 I am new to Ubuntu testing community.My name is Sujith S.I have been using 
 ubuntu for past 8 months.
 
 I am very much intrested to be a part of Ubuntu Testing team.I am actually 
 working in the field of testing so I think I can contribute in this area.
 
 I would like to get advises on this ?Where can I start ? 

Hello Sujith, welcome!

Please, have a look to our testing page [1], where you have information
about our open projects and our regular activities.

Let us know if you need more information.

Thanks!
Ara.

[1] http://qa.ubuntu.com/testing/

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Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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Hello all!

Just a quick reminder that tomorrow, the 6th of October, we are having a
regular QA meeting at 17:00 UTC at #ubuntu-quality. Chair will be
charlie-tca.

Agenda, so far, looks like this:

* review previous action items (all)
* Maverick Final ISO testing status -- ara
* SRU testing -- jibel
* Bug Day status -- pedro_
* Maverick Blueprints Status -- marjo
* Selection of new chair -- charlie-tca 


Please, add your agenda items, as usual, at:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

Thanks,

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Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Sulu Mayer
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Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably
forgot soething. lol

Second. Ill be absent on that meeting also

Sorry

Greetings
Sulumar
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Re: Meeting 2010-10-06 - 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-quality

2010-10-05 Thread Steve Beattie
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 11:04:45PM +0200, Sulu Mayer wrote:
 Frist of all i cant veryfie that pgp signature and dont know why. probably
 forgot soething. lol

It verified here just fine, how is it failing for
you? Do note that firegpg, which you appear to be using,
has been discontinued due to the author's inability to
cope with the frequent changes to the gmail interface; see
http://blog.getfiregpg.org/2010/06/07/firegpg-discontinued/ for
more info.

Sorry you can't make the meeting.

Thanks.

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http://NxNW.org/~steve/


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Re: New member to Ubuntu testing

2010-10-05 Thread Dan Trevino
You probably want to read this:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam

Then go here to get started:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing

2010/10/4 Sujith S sujith...@gmail.com:
 Hi ,

 My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 6months and I am now
 very much intrested ubuntu testing team.

 Kindly give me the advises by giving me where can I start contributing ?
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Chairing the QA meeting

2010-10-04 Thread Ara Pulido
Hello all,

I have put a small wiki page with instructions that you may find useful
in case you are a usual chair of the QA meeting or you plan to be:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing

Cheers!
Ara.

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Re: Chairing the QA meeting

2010-10-04 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:28:08 +0200
Ara Pulido a...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I have put a small wiki page with instructions that you may find useful
 in case you are a usual chair of the QA meeting or you plan to be:
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing
 
 Cheers!
 Ara.
 

Thank you! That looks so much easier than finding all the items by
searching the wiki and mailing lists.

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New member to Ubuntu testing

2010-10-04 Thread Sujith S
Hi ,

My name is Sujith S.I have been using ubuntu for past 6months and I am
now very much intrested ubuntu testing team.

Kindly give me the advises by giving me where can I start contributing ?
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