Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi,

Made some progress.

linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic root=UUID=etc ro nomodeset quiet
splash vga=768
You see some kernel messages. Then X starts up Then a kernel message about
starting up NTP appears and a few messages after that, we have a big black
screen. At this point I pressed CTRL+ALT+F1 and logged in as a text mode
user. Now all I need to do is to find the appropriate package to install
the Intel 810 graphics drivers from. I prefer to do a sudo apt-get install
but have recently discovered the text mode package manager aptitude.

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nio Wiklund]

Den 2014-10-27 14:50, Ian Bruntlett skrev:
...
> Also... quick question. I have tried googling for Kernel paramters but
> found nothing authoritative. Would you mind either telling me what the
> quiet and splash parameters do or point me in the direction of a relevant
> web page?
> 
> Still perservering!
> 
> BW,
> 
> 
> Ian
> 

Hi Ian,

See these links about boot options alias kernel parameters

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options

http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi All,

On 27 October 2014 14:33, Alberto Salvia Novella 
wrote:

> 
>
I have a (paper, hardback, A5) notebook that I document my adventures on to
avoid getting extremely confused. In my spare time this week I'll read up
on Kernel Parameters and study the GNU GRUB manual.

Will then apply that knowledge to chasing this anomaly up next weekend.

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Ian Bruntlett:

I have tried googling for Kernel paramters but
found nothing authoritative.






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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Barry,

On 26 October 2014 22:16, Barry Drake  wrote:

> I haven't a clue what the $vt_handoff parameter is, or where it came
> from.  You might want to search for it. The line you want HAS to put the
> nomodeset parameter BEFORE the quiet splash THUS:
> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic root=UUID=etc ro nomodeset quiet
> splash
>
$vt_handoff might be lubuntu specific. Which variety of Ubuntu are you
using?

I take it you are using a programmers editor that doesn't put stuff in
> behind your back?  gedit is OK for example.
>
My problem is with the display. Can't login because of it, can't run an
editor because of that. However, Grub does have a built-in editor (press
SHIFT keys down when BIOS screen appears, move to desired line and press
'e' to edit the appropriate entries. I did that with your recommendation.
So I've just tried:-

linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-23-generic root=UUID=etc ro nomodeset quiet
splash

Also... quick question. I have tried googling for Kernel paramters but
found nothing authoritative. Would you mind either telling me what the
quiet and splash parameters do or point me in the direction of a relevant
web page?

Still perservering!

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Barry,

I've been learning and researching things. First up, I am using  Lubuntu
alternate i386. I don't recall seeing a "live cd" option there. Thanks for
the link to set nomodeset - on my travels I did come across that. If you
have a look at previous messages, you should see that I have reported the
hardware specs.

If you have time, take a look at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1385920

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Ian Bruntlett:
> However I want to avoid clogging up developer's time with bug
> reports that were either caused by the tester or tester's hardware.

Working in new bugs is useless anyway, having plenty of confirmed ones. 
But reporting bugs brings the opportunity to the next user to confirm them.




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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi All,

FYI the problems I've been experiencing have been written up on:-
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1385920

And now I'm going to relax :)

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Walter,

On 25 October 2014 23:02, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> I think "professionalism in programming" would suggest creating a bug
> report. Indeed, that is the best place to have all this
> troubleshooting information exist. This way bug triagers, users, and
> developers can sort through it and try to make sense out of it.
>
Point taken. However I want to avoid clogging up developer's time with bug
reports that were either caused by the tester or tester's hardware. I've
done all the testing I can and got nowhere. This bug, however, has got me
stumped. Could you refer me to a particular page to report this bug? I have
an Ubuntu One account and am subscribed to these e-mail mailing lists:-
* ubuntu-quality@lists.ubuntu.com
* lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com

I can tell you as Lubuntu's Release Manager, we had no such bug come
> up during the cycle except the one I already mentioned that was fixed
> and that affected all flavors.
>
OK. Please bear in mind that whilst I have some Linux experience I find the
Ubuntu site difficult to  navigate.


> Please make sure to subscribe the Lubuntu Packages Team, by the way.
> Thanks!
>
Done that :)

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Walter Lapchynski]

> From: Ian Bruntlett :

> This computer works fine with 14.04LTS and fails with 14.10.
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I think "professionalism in programming" would suggest creating a bug
report. Indeed, that is the best place to have all this
troubleshooting information exist. This way bug triagers, users, and
developers can sort through it and try to make sense out of it.

I can tell you as Lubuntu's Release Manager, we had no such bug come
up during the cycle except the one I already mentioned that was fixed
and that affected all flavors.

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Apologies - I was not specific in my previous messages.

I run Ubuntu on some systems and lubuntu on other systems.

The problems I have reported as Ubuntu 14.10 were in fact lubuntu 14.10.
Oops :)


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

OK... to eliminate hardware failure being the problem, I dug out my Ubuntu
14.04LTS CD-R and reinstalled it on my Dell test system. When it comes to
logging on, I do tend to get a white and black screen with some squiggles.
This computer works fine with 14.04LTS and fails with 14.10.

Just to test the system further I ran the Software Updater and it ran OK.
Towards the end it was quite slow but the system's performance is fine.

Looked in the dmesg text and that revealed my graphics is being supplied by
an Intel 810 chipset.


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi All,

On 23 October 2014 19:54, Ian Bruntlett  wrote:
>
> On 23 October 2014 10:15, Ian Bruntlett  wrote:
>
>> P.S. I have a few ideas up my sleeve to try and install this lubuntu
>> image. Will take some time so will try it out tonight.
>>
> Tonight, during the install, when the message "Undefined video mode number
> : 314. Press ENTER to see video modes available" appeared I pressed ENTER
> and chose video mode 0. Booting this system still results in a white screen
> with a black squiggle on it.
>

Tried installing the final lubuntu alternate i386 14.10 image. No luck.
Still has the "Undefined video mode number". Still presents a black on
white login screen with a little squiggle on it (possibly a flashing
cursor). Have asked for feedback on the accu-general mailing list in case
someone else has overcome this problem.

The test system is a Dell Optiplex GX50, 1.3GHz Celeron, 512MB RAM, 20GB
hard disc, CD-ROM drive, floppy disk drive.


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi All,

On 23 October 2014 10:15, Ian Bruntlett  wrote:

> P.S. I have a few ideas up my sleeve to try and install this lubuntu
> image. Will take some time so will try it out tonight.
>
Tonight, during the install, when the message "Undefined video mode number
: 314. Press ENTER to see video modes available" appeared I pressed ENTER
and chose video mode 0. Booting this system still results in a white screen
with a black squiggle on it.

I downloaded the official 14.10 alternate lubuntu 386 installer and will be
trying it at the weekend.

The isos I'm working with are:
e4f3ad46fa269104b01aff422d17b079  utopic-alternate-i386-20141022.iso
49c072a9492201456b22200d66f697d5  lubuntu-14.10-alternate-i386.iso

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

P.S. I have a few ideas up my sleeve to try and install this lubuntu image.
Will take some time so will try it out tonight.

HTH,


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Nicholas,

I downloaded utopic-alternate-i386 (version 20141022). Burnt it to CD-R and
installed it on:

Dell Optiplex GX50 (hostname vega)
1.3GHz Celeron
512MB RAM
20GB Hard disc
CD-ROM drive

The install completed OK except there was a warning "Undefined video mode
number 314" that appeared twice.

After the CD-R was ejected, the system was rebooted. When the login screen
should have appeared, the screen went white and typing on the keyboard
produced illegible black scribbles on the screen. Pressing CTRL+ALT+ some
function keys seemed to change screens.

HTH,


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

The aforementioned bugs should all be fixed and the release team has respun
the images. Please update your images and test them again. Confirm the bugs
are fixed and nothing else has regressed. If you've not yet submitted a
result, please do so now. We need positive results as well!

Thanks and happy testing!

Nicholas

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Ian Bruntlett 
wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> On 21 October 2014 23:27, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
>> @ Ian, I see no notification on that bug of anyone rejecting the fix.
>> Will you please ensure you have an up to date image. As this bug would also
>> knock out ubuntu server, I would expect people to be squealing really
>> loudly by now.
>>
> The bug number is 1380774 and according to
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects is already fixed.
>
> BW,
>
>
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Phil,

On 21 October 2014 23:27, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> @ Ian, I see no notification on that bug of anyone rejecting the fix. Will
> you please ensure you have an up to date image. As this bug would also
> knock out ubuntu server, I would expect people to be squealing really
> loudly by now.
>
The bug number is 1380774 and according to
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/defects is already fixed.

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Walter Lapchynski]

Ian Bruntlett said:
> I have tested 2 lubuntu images.

Which ones? At this point you should be checking the images here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds

Judging by your message, you were using the alternate version. You
have come across two fixed bugs.

> The first one displayed a blank screen
> where a login screen should have been visible.

The bug report that should be related to this one is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1371651
This bug existed in the release of Beta2 (20140926), but was fixed in
the daily image 20140929.

> The other one failed to
> install, the key error message from the installer being "No installable
> kernel was found in the defined APT sources". The installer still installed
> the packages. On booting, as could be expected, there was no kernel and the
> system boots straight into memtest86+

The bug report that should be related to this one is here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774
Note this fix came with the 20141017.1 image version of the Final release.

> Originally I didn't post anything because by the time I found them, they
> were already listed on the appropriate Ubuntu web pages. What would you
> prefer I do in future? Report only bugs that haven't been listed? Or report
> listed bugs with info about how a known bug affects my particular test
> system?

I would suggest searching for similar bug reports (you would have
found them easily) and/or looking for what other people are reporting
on the tracker for the relevant day. If you get these problems that no
one else gets, it's pretty unlikely.

However, the possibility exists of some sort of regression. I find it
unlikely, but it's possible. If you are using the right image and have
checked the md5 (use zsync, it does it for you), please get in touch
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Phill Whiteside]

Using an up to date image is useful.

I repeat that this was fixed last Friday..

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774/comments/33
and
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774/comments/34

@ Ian, I see no notification on that bug of anyone rejecting the fix. Will
you please ensure you have an up to date image. As this bug would also
knock out ubuntu server, I would expect people to be squealing really
loudly by now.

@ Brian, As this is so critical, what else could we do?

Regards,

Phill.

On 21 October 2014 19:49, Nicholas Skaggs 
wrote:

> When you find bugs that are already reported, that's good data for the bug.
> I would report the result on the isotracker and then provide a link to the
> pre-existing bug report. On the bug report, I would click the 'also affects
> me' button at the top of the page. This raises the bug heat and is the best
> way to say 'this affects me too'.
>
> If you believe you have valuable info to add, please do comment on the bug
> report. Just avoid adding the "me too"! type comments. This means if the
> only comments you can add to the bug are that your machine is also broke,
> even if you provide the machine details, you don't need to leave the
> comment. By clicking 'affects me' you've already sent this data point. On
> the other hand if you can provide more details about the bug, or the bug
> behaves uniquely for you, etc, please do comment. *Sometimes* this might
> mean you would leave a comment saying it affects brand X of hardware as
> well as what's listed in the bug, but only when the bug itself mentions
> these specific limitations.
>
> Bugsquaders, please feel free to correct if I mispoke on anything above :-)
> I trust this helps and makes sense. Thanks so much for testing!
>
> Nicholas
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Ian Bruntlett 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Nicholas,
> >
> > On 21 October 2014 16:19, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> >
> > > On 21 October 2014 16:08, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone for the results, keep'em coming!  If you haven't
> yet
> > > > submitted test results, please do so. We currently have a few
> critical
> > > bugs
> > > > affecting the images;
> > > >
> > > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380774
> > > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325801
> > > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362333
> > >
> > I have tested 2 lubuntu images. The first one displayed a blank screen
> > where a login screen should have been visible. The other one failed to
> > install, the key error message from the installer being "No installable
> > kernel was found in the defined APT sources". The installer still
> installed
> > the packages. On booting, as could be expected, there was no kernel and
> the
> > system boots straight into memtest86+
> >
> > Originally I didn't post anything because by the time I found them, they
> > were already listed on the appropriate Ubuntu web pages. What would you
> > prefer I do in future? Report only bugs that haven't been listed? Or
> report
> > listed bugs with info about how a known bug affects my particular test
> > system?
> >
> > BW
> >
> >
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

When you find bugs that are already reported, that's good data for the bug.
I would report the result on the isotracker and then provide a link to the
pre-existing bug report. On the bug report, I would click the 'also affects
me' button at the top of the page. This raises the bug heat and is the best
way to say 'this affects me too'.

If you believe you have valuable info to add, please do comment on the bug
report. Just avoid adding the "me too"! type comments. This means if the
only comments you can add to the bug are that your machine is also broke,
even if you provide the machine details, you don't need to leave the
comment. By clicking 'affects me' you've already sent this data point. On
the other hand if you can provide more details about the bug, or the bug
behaves uniquely for you, etc, please do comment. *Sometimes* this might
mean you would leave a comment saying it affects brand X of hardware as
well as what's listed in the bug, but only when the bug itself mentions
these specific limitations.

Bugsquaders, please feel free to correct if I mispoke on anything above :-)
I trust this helps and makes sense. Thanks so much for testing!

Nicholas

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Ian Bruntlett 
wrote:

> Hi Nicholas,
>
> On 21 October 2014 16:19, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> > On 21 October 2014 16:08, Nicholas Skaggs  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone for the results, keep'em coming!  If you haven't yet
> > > submitted test results, please do so. We currently have a few critical
> > bugs
> > > affecting the images;
> > >
> > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380774
> > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325801
> > > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362333
> >
> I have tested 2 lubuntu images. The first one displayed a blank screen
> where a login screen should have been visible. The other one failed to
> install, the key error message from the installer being "No installable
> kernel was found in the defined APT sources". The installer still installed
> the packages. On booting, as could be expected, there was no kernel and the
> system boots straight into memtest86+
>
> Originally I didn't post anything because by the time I found them, they
> were already listed on the appropriate Ubuntu web pages. What would you
> prefer I do in future? Report only bugs that haven't been listed? Or report
> listed bugs with info about how a known bug affects my particular test
> system?
>
> BW
>
>
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Ian Bruntlett]

Hi Nicholas,

On 21 October 2014 16:19, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> On 21 October 2014 16:08, Nicholas Skaggs 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for the results, keep'em coming!  If you haven't yet
> > submitted test results, please do so. We currently have a few critical
> bugs
> > affecting the images;
> >
> > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380774
> > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325801
> > http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362333
>
I have tested 2 lubuntu images. The first one displayed a blank screen
where a login screen should have been visible. The other one failed to
install, the key error message from the installer being "No installable
kernel was found in the defined APT sources". The installer still installed
the packages. On booting, as could be expected, there was no kernel and the
system boots straight into memtest86+

Originally I didn't post anything because by the time I found them, they
were already listed on the appropriate Ubuntu web pages. What would you
prefer I do in future? Report only bugs that haven't been listed? Or report
listed bugs with info about how a known bug affects my particular test
system?

BW


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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Phill Whiteside]

Nicholas,

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774 is fix released,
was done Friday 17th October.

Regards,

Phill.

On 21 October 2014 16:08, Nicholas Skaggs 
wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for the results, keep'em coming!  If you haven't yet
> submitted test results, please do so. We currently have a few critical bugs
> affecting the images;
>
> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380774
> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325801
> http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362333
>
>
> Nicholas
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:57 PM, chris hermansen 
> wrote:
>
> > Just to add some better news... but 1325801 offers a workaround, which
> > made everything work with installation albeit at 1024 X 768.  also bug
> > 1295961 which deals with the non support in nouveau of the GTX750 card
> > offers a ppa which gives a clean installation of the needed (proprietary)
> > drivers.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, chris hermansen  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Nicholas and list,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> >> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10/16/2014 03:03 PM, Colin Law wrote:
> >>>
>  On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen 
>  wrote:
> 
> > Nicholas, list;
> >
> > One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it
> > seems
> > that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a
> really
> > low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I
> can't
> > read
> > the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can
> > not
> > be resized
> >
>  You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse
> dragging.
> 
>  Colin
> 
>   Chris, Colin is correct, so you should be able to slide any windows
> >>> you need to into view. As to the bug, I would report it against the
> nouveau
> >>> driver which is what would be used during the installation. I have a
> few
> >>> questions that would be useful to answer in the bug report. Does this
> >>> happen during a live session as well? After installation, does the
> desktop
> >>> still boot into a low resolution?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for testing!
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Thanks, Nicholas.  As it was, I had to run live because of bug 1325801
> >> which affected me as well.  Live was the ultra-low resolution view, I'm
> >> guessing 640 X 480.  Once installed, the system booted into a slightly
> >> higher view (didn't check but I bet it was 1024 X 768).  The latest
> NVIDIA
> >> driver offered by the repositories does not support the 750.  And
> sadly, I
> >> was unable to get the NVIDIA generic installation to work though it runs
> >> fine on my 14.04 installation.
> >>
> >> Sounds like a bunch of bug reports in all different directions...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >> C'est ma façon de parler.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Thanks to everyone for the results, keep'em coming!  If you haven't yet
submitted test results, please do so. We currently have a few critical bugs
affecting the images;

http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380774
http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1325801
http://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1362333


Nicholas

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:57 PM, chris hermansen 
wrote:

> Just to add some better news... but 1325801 offers a workaround, which
> made everything work with installation albeit at 1024 X 768.  also bug
> 1295961 which deals with the non support in nouveau of the GTX750 card
> offers a ppa which gives a clean installation of the needed (proprietary)
> drivers.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, chris hermansen 
> wrote:
>
>> Nicholas and list,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
>> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/16/2014 03:03 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>>>
 On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen 
 wrote:

> Nicholas, list;
>
> One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it
> seems
> that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
> low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't
> read
> the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can
> not
> be resized
>
 You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.

 Colin

  Chris, Colin is correct, so you should be able to slide any windows
>>> you need to into view. As to the bug, I would report it against the nouveau
>>> driver which is what would be used during the installation. I have a few
>>> questions that would be useful to answer in the bug report. Does this
>>> happen during a live session as well? After installation, does the desktop
>>> still boot into a low resolution?
>>>
>>> Thanks for testing!
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, Nicholas.  As it was, I had to run live because of bug 1325801
>> which affected me as well.  Live was the ultra-low resolution view, I'm
>> guessing 640 X 480.  Once installed, the system booted into a slightly
>> higher view (didn't check but I bet it was 1024 X 768).  The latest NVIDIA
>> driver offered by the repositories does not support the 750.  And sadly, I
>> was unable to get the NVIDIA generic installation to work though it runs
>> fine on my 14.04 installation.
>>
>> Sounds like a bunch of bug reports in all different directions...
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>>
>> C'est ma façon de parler.
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[chris hermansen]

Just to add some better news... but 1325801 offers a workaround, which made
everything work with installation albeit at 1024 X 768.  also bug 1295961
which deals with the non support in nouveau of the GTX750 card offers a ppa
which gives a clean installation of the needed (proprietary) drivers.

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:41 PM, chris hermansen 
wrote:

> Nicholas and list,
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/16/2014 03:03 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen  wrote:
>>>
 Nicholas, list;

 One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it
 seems
 that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
 low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't
 read
 the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can
 not
 be resized

>>> You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>  Chris, Colin is correct, so you should be able to slide any windows you
>> need to into view. As to the bug, I would report it against the nouveau
>> driver which is what would be used during the installation. I have a few
>> questions that would be useful to answer in the bug report. Does this
>> happen during a live session as well? After installation, does the desktop
>> still boot into a low resolution?
>>
>> Thanks for testing!
>>
>>
> Thanks, Nicholas.  As it was, I had to run live because of bug 1325801
> which affected me as well.  Live was the ultra-low resolution view, I'm
> guessing 640 X 480.  Once installed, the system booted into a slightly
> higher view (didn't check but I bet it was 1024 X 768).  The latest NVIDIA
> driver offered by the repositories does not support the 750.  And sadly, I
> was unable to get the NVIDIA generic installation to work though it runs
> fine on my 14.04 installation.
>
> Sounds like a bunch of bug reports in all different directions...
>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[chris hermansen]

Nicholas and list,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On 10/16/2014 03:03 PM, Colin Law wrote:
>
>> On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen  wrote:
>>
>>> Nicholas, list;
>>>
>>> One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it
>>> seems
>>> that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
>>> low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't
>>> read
>>> the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can not
>>> be resized
>>>
>> You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.
>>
>> Colin
>>
>>  Chris, Colin is correct, so you should be able to slide any windows you
> need to into view. As to the bug, I would report it against the nouveau
> driver which is what would be used during the installation. I have a few
> questions that would be useful to answer in the bug report. Does this
> happen during a live session as well? After installation, does the desktop
> still boot into a low resolution?
>
> Thanks for testing!
>
>
Thanks, Nicholas.  As it was, I had to run live because of bug 1325801
which affected me as well.  Live was the ultra-low resolution view, I'm
guessing 640 X 480.  Once installed, the system booted into a slightly
higher view (didn't check but I bet it was 1024 X 768).  The latest NVIDIA
driver offered by the repositories does not support the 750.  And sadly, I
was unable to get the NVIDIA generic installation to work though it runs
fine on my 14.04 installation.

Sounds like a bunch of bug reports in all different directions...



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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[chris hermansen]

Colin and list,

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Colin Law  wrote:

> On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen  wrote:
> > Nicholas, list;
> >
> > One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it
> seems
> > that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
> > low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't
> read
> > the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can not
> > be resized
>
> You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.
>
>
Argh, good point, I forgot about that.  Thanks!



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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

On 10/16/2014 03:03 PM, Colin Law wrote:

On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen  wrote:

Nicholas, list;

One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it seems
that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't read
the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can not
be resized

You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.

Colin

Chris, Colin is correct, so you should be able to slide any windows you 
need to into view. As to the bug, I would report it against the nouveau 
driver which is what would be used during the installation. I have a few 
questions that would be useful to answer in the bug report. Does this 
happen during a live session as well? After installation, does the 
desktop still boot into a low resolution?


Thanks for testing!

Nicholas

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Colin Law]

On 16 October 2014 19:17, chris hermansen  wrote:
> Nicholas, list;
>
> One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it seems
> that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
> low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't read
> the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can not
> be resized

You can move a window on screen by holding down Alt and mouse dragging.

Colin

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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[chris hermansen]

Nicholas, list;

One problem I have run into that I'm not clear on how to report - it seems
that my NVIDIA 750 is not correctly supported and I am put in a really
low-resolution graphics mode.  In fact, so low resolution that I can't read
the bottom half of the screen settings, and of course that window can not
be resized... also there are no other drivers detected, though I know that
NVIDIA has some closed source drivers that work fine with this card.

How should I go about reporting this kind of thing?  I am continuing the
install "blind" to see if, once installed, I can get decent screen
resolution without resorting to packages outside the distro.

Thanks in advance

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> On 10/10/2014 11:54 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>
>> We're just about a week away from the first RC images for utopic hitting
>> the image tracker. Please plan to help test the images as they appear. RC
>> images should appear on the tracker by Oct 17th and no later than October
>> 20th.
>>
>> Never tested an image before? Checkout the information on the wiki,
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
>> Testing/ISO/Walkthrough. You can sharpen your skills right now by
>> testing a daily image. If you encounter any issues during testing please
>> don't hestiate to ask for help. Don't forget, you can talk in realtime on
>> IRC on freenode @ #ubuntu-quality.
>>
>> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-quality
>>
>> A big thank you to all of you who have and will participate in making
>> sure utopic is the best quality it can be. Happy Testing!
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
> The images are here!
>
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds
>
> Please help test these images as they will become the final version of
> utopic for ubuntu and its flavors!
>
>
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Re: Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

On 10/10/2014 11:54 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
We're just about a week away from the first RC images for utopic 
hitting the image tracker. Please plan to help test the images as they 
appear. RC images should appear on the tracker by Oct 17th and no 
later than October 20th.


Never tested an image before? Checkout the information on the wiki, 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker and 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough. You can sharpen your 
skills right now by testing a daily image. If you encounter any issues 
during testing please don't hestiate to ask for help. Don't forget, 
you can talk in realtime on IRC on freenode @ #ubuntu-quality.


http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-quality

A big thank you to all of you who have and will participate in making 
sure utopic is the best quality it can be. Happy Testing!


Nicholas

The images are here!

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/325/builds

Please help test these images as they will become the final version of 
utopic for ubuntu and its flavors!


Nicholas

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Final Image Testing for Utopic!

[Nicholas Skaggs]

We're just about a week away from the first RC images for utopic hitting 
the image tracker. Please plan to help test the images as they appear. 
RC images should appear on the tracker by Oct 17th and no later than 
October 20th.


Never tested an image before? Checkout the information on the wiki, 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker and 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough. You can sharpen your 
skills right now by testing a daily image. If you encounter any issues 
during testing please don't hestiate to ask for help. Don't forget, you 
can talk in realtime on IRC on freenode @ #ubuntu-quality.


http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-quality

A big thank you to all of you who have and will participate in making 
sure utopic is the best quality it can be. Happy Testing!


Nicholas

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