Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[flocculant]

On 05/01/16 19:44, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
Some of you have been at this already, but either way, please have a 
look at the new Ubuntu Font if you are running Wily. It has some fixes 
in it, specifically we need to verify 4 bugs + the Arabic and Hebrew 
fixes. Full details can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu 
Font Family/Testing


Happy Testing!

Nicholas

People might want to check and confirm the following bugs from when this 
got released in December


Ubuntu font missing part of 8 and 3 in hexchat - 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/1525150


New font uses Arabic-sized figures in Latin contexts - 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/1520772 



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Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[Nicholas Skaggs]

The font requires some other changes in Xenial, hence it's limitation to 
being only in Xenial. So yes, please do test in Xenial. If you just 
install the font itself on an older distro, the non-Western font tweaks 
for things like Arabic and Hebrew won't be there.


Nicholas

On 01/06/2016 01:29 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
Ah OK, so to be 100% clear, is it worth checking this font out in Wily 
or only in its default configuration in Xenial?


On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Nicholas Skaggs 
> 
wrote:


Blargh! It's Xenial. Only in Xenial. Wow, and no one else noticed
this for 2 days. I'm sorry. LOL, notice my source link below?


Nicholas

On 01/06/2016 12:06 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas, I just ran today's updates (mostly ffmpeg in my
case).  I have checked the updates settings: all "install
updates from" boxes checked, updates checked daily, display
immediately for both security and other updates.

The strange little glyph still shows as 0.830 in both the
gmail window and with pango-view.

Checking synaptic, I have ttf-ubuntu-font-family installed.  I
searched for other packages with the terms "font ubuntu" and
"font release" but nothing obvious there.

I checked the Ubuntu font with the font viewer application and
it's still reported as 0.83.

I checked my .fonts directory and there are no ubuntu-related
fonts there.  Nothing in /usr/local/share/fonts.

In /usr/share/fonts/ubuntu-font-family, all the .ttf files are
dated 10 Jul 2015 except the UbuntuMono files which are dated
26 Sep 2011.

I don't see anything in /usr/share/fonts that looks as though
it could be a new release of ubuntu fonts.

I should mention that this machine is upgraded from 15.04 (ie
not a fresh install), in case that matters.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs

>> wrote:

Chris, that's correct. You should have 0.84, which is the new
version. Are you running an up to date Wily?


Checkout
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources

Nicholas

On 01/05/2016 05:23 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas,

What I see when I execute this:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the
lazy
dog.'

is (all on one line):

 1. 0.830 in very small text
 2. something that looks like 88 on a 7-segment display
 3. a space
 4. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

So just to be super-clear, I don't see a ".84" in that
string.  I also don't see it in the text of this
e-mail; what
I see looks a single glyph whose strokes make 0.830 in
very
small letters.

I had an inspiration and checked with my font view
application.  It tells me my Ubuntu font is:

Name: Ubuntu

Style: Regular

Type: TrueType font

Version: 0.83

Copyright: Copyright 2011 Canonical Ltd. Licensed
under the
Ubuntu Font License 1.0

Does this mean I don't have the new version?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Skaggs

>

Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[chris hermansen]

Ah OK, so to be 100% clear, is it worth checking this font out in Wily or
only in its default configuration in Xenial?

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Blargh! It's Xenial. Only in Xenial. Wow, and no one else noticed this for
> 2 days. I'm sorry. LOL, notice my source link below?
>
>
> Nicholas
>
> On 01/06/2016 12:06 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>
>> Nicholas, I just ran today's updates (mostly ffmpeg in my case).  I have
>> checked the updates settings: all "install updates from" boxes checked,
>> updates checked daily, display immediately for both security and other
>> updates.
>>
>> The strange little glyph still shows as 0.830 in both the gmail window
>> and with pango-view.
>>
>> Checking synaptic, I have ttf-ubuntu-font-family installed.  I searched
>> for other packages with the terms "font ubuntu" and "font release" but
>> nothing obvious there.
>>
>> I checked the Ubuntu font with the font viewer application and it's still
>> reported as 0.83.
>>
>> I checked my .fonts directory and there are no ubuntu-related fonts
>> there.  Nothing in /usr/local/share/fonts.
>>
>> In /usr/share/fonts/ubuntu-font-family, all the .ttf files are dated 10
>> Jul 2015 except the UbuntuMono files which are dated 26 Sep 2011.
>>
>> I don't see anything in /usr/share/fonts that looks as though it could be
>> a new release of ubuntu fonts.
>>
>> I should mention that this machine is upgraded from 15.04 (ie not a fresh
>> install), in case that matters.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs <
>> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Chris, that's correct. You should have 0.84, which is the new
>> version. Are you running an up to date Wily?
>>
>>
>> Checkout
>>
>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>> On 01/05/2016 05:23 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>
>> Nicholas,
>>
>> What I see when I execute this:
>>
>> pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text='> fallback="false"> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
>> dog.'
>>
>> is (all on one line):
>>
>>  1. 0.830 in very small text
>>  2. something that looks like 88 on a 7-segment display
>>  3. a space
>>  4. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
>>
>> So just to be super-clear, I don't see a ".84" in that
>> string.  I also don't see it in the text of this e-mail; what
>> I see looks a single glyph whose strokes make 0.830 in very
>> small letters.
>>
>> I had an inspiration and checked with my font view
>> application.  It tells me my Ubuntu font is:
>>
>> Name: Ubuntu
>>
>> Style: Regular
>>
>> Type: TrueType font
>>
>> Version: 0.83
>>
>> Copyright: Copyright 2011 Canonical Ltd. Licensed under the
>> Ubuntu Font License 1.0
>>
>> Does this mean I don't have the new version?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Skaggs
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Chris, ahh. Yea, the new version is .84, and you can
>> confirm you
>> have it by seeing 0.84 in the beginning:
>>
>> pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text='> fallback="false"> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
>> dog.'
>>
>> The other font you don't have. I removed it from the
>> directions.
>> It's from when we did the PPA testing. Thanks for catching
>> this!
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>> On 01/05/2016 03:40 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>
>> Nicholas, a further question if I may:
>>
>> I am running 100% up to date Wily.
>>
>> When, as per the instructions, I execute:
>>
>> pango-view --font="UbuntuPrerelease0910 48" --markup
>> --text=' The quick brown fox
>> jumps
>> over the lazy dog.'
>>
>> I see what appears to be exactly the same display as
>> when I
>> execute
>>
>> pango-view --font="Deja Vu 48" --markup --text='> fallback="false"> The quick brown fox jumps over the
>> lazy
>> dog.'
>>
>> That is, the text looks to be rendered in exactly the same
>> font: same glyphs, same size, everything.  And pretty
>> clearly
>> different from plain old Ubuntu.
>>
>> Any ideas?  Is UbuntuPrerelease0910 not really
>> installed in my
>> Wily and somehow I'm getting Deja Vu instead? Should I be
>> asking 

Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

Nicholas Skaggs:

and no one else noticed this for 2 days.


Eating chocolates and distributing presents ;)


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Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Chris, that's correct. You should have 0.84, which is the new version. 
Are you running an up to date Wily?



Checkout 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources


Nicholas

On 01/05/2016 05:23 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas,

What I see when I execute this:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text='fallback="false"> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.'


is (all on one line):

 1. 0.830 in very small text
 2. something that looks like 88 on a 7-segment display
 3. a space
 4. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

So just to be super-clear, I don't see a ".84" in that string.  I also 
don't see it in the text of this e-mail; what I see looks a single 
glyph whose strokes make 0.830 in very small letters.


I had an inspiration and checked with my font view application.  It 
tells me my Ubuntu font is:


Name: Ubuntu

Style: Regular

Type: TrueType font

Version: 0.83

Copyright: Copyright 2011 Canonical Ltd. Licensed under the Ubuntu 
Font License 1.0


Does this mean I don't have the new version?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Skaggs 
> 
wrote:


Chris, ahh. Yea, the new version is .84, and you can confirm you
have it by seeing 0.84 in the beginning:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
dog.'

The other font you don't have. I removed it from the directions.
It's from when we did the PPA testing. Thanks for catching this!

Nicholas

On 01/05/2016 03:40 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas, a further question if I may:

I am running 100% up to date Wily.

When, as per the instructions, I execute:

pango-view --font="UbuntuPrerelease0910 48" --markup
--text=' The quick brown fox jumps
over the lazy dog.'

I see what appears to be exactly the same display as when I
execute

pango-view --font="Deja Vu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
dog.'

That is, the text looks to be rendered in exactly the same
font: same glyphs, same size, everything.  And pretty clearly
different from plain old Ubuntu.

Any ideas?  Is UbuntuPrerelease0910 not really installed in my
Wily and somehow I'm getting Deja Vu instead?  Should I be
asking this question somewhere else?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Nicholas Skaggs

>> wrote:

Yea, crazy crazy link. I send in plain text, so I didn't think
about it. The link has spaces in it.

Let me just end the madness by fixing the wiki:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFontFamily/Testing

Nicholas


On 01/05/2016 03:08 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicolas, that link redirected me to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show=Ubuntu



On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs

>


>

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Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Blargh! It's Xenial. Only in Xenial. Wow, and no one else noticed this 
for 2 days. I'm sorry. LOL, notice my source link below?



Nicholas

On 01/06/2016 12:06 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
Nicholas, I just ran today's updates (mostly ffmpeg in my case).  I 
have checked the updates settings: all "install updates from" boxes 
checked, updates checked daily, display immediately for both security 
and other updates.


The strange little glyph still shows as 0.830 in both the gmail window 
and with pango-view.


Checking synaptic, I have ttf-ubuntu-font-family installed.  I 
searched for other packages with the terms "font ubuntu" and "font 
release" but nothing obvious there.


I checked the Ubuntu font with the font viewer application and it's 
still reported as 0.83.


I checked my .fonts directory and there are no ubuntu-related fonts 
there.  Nothing in /usr/local/share/fonts.


In /usr/share/fonts/ubuntu-font-family, all the .ttf files are dated 
10 Jul 2015 except the UbuntuMono files which are dated 26 Sep 2011.


I don't see anything in /usr/share/fonts that looks as though it could 
be a new release of ubuntu fonts.


I should mention that this machine is upgraded from 15.04 (ie not a 
fresh install), in case that matters.


On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs 
> 
wrote:


Chris, that's correct. You should have 0.84, which is the new
version. Are you running an up to date Wily?


Checkout
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources

Nicholas

On 01/05/2016 05:23 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas,

What I see when I execute this:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
dog.'

is (all on one line):

 1. 0.830 in very small text
 2. something that looks like 88 on a 7-segment display
 3. a space
 4. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

So just to be super-clear, I don't see a ".84" in that
string.  I also don't see it in the text of this e-mail; what
I see looks a single glyph whose strokes make 0.830 in very
small letters.

I had an inspiration and checked with my font view
application.  It tells me my Ubuntu font is:

Name: Ubuntu

Style: Regular

Type: TrueType font

Version: 0.83

Copyright: Copyright 2011 Canonical Ltd. Licensed under the
Ubuntu Font License 1.0

Does this mean I don't have the new version?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Skaggs

>> wrote:

Chris, ahh. Yea, the new version is .84, and you can
confirm you
have it by seeing 0.84 in the beginning:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy
dog.'

The other font you don't have. I removed it from the
directions.
It's from when we did the PPA testing. Thanks for catching
this!

Nicholas

On 01/05/2016 03:40 PM, chris hermansen wrote:

Nicholas, a further question if I may:

I am running 100% up to date Wily.

When, as per the instructions, I execute:

pango-view --font="UbuntuPrerelease0910 48" --markup
--text=' The quick brown fox
jumps
over the lazy dog.'

I see what appears to be exactly the same display as
when I
execute

pango-view --font="Deja Vu 48" --markup --text=' The quick brown fox jumps over the
lazy
dog.'

That is, the text looks to be rendered in exactly the same
font: same glyphs, same size, everything.  And pretty
clearly
different from plain old Ubuntu.

Any ideas?  Is UbuntuPrerelease0910 not really
installed in my
Wily and somehow I'm getting Deja Vu instead? Should I be
asking this question somewhere else?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Nicholas Skaggs

>

Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[chris hermansen]

Nicholas,

What I see when I execute this:

pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text='
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.'

is (all on one line):

   1. 0.830 in very small text
   2. something that looks like 88 on a 7-segment display
   3. a space
   4. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

So just to be super-clear, I don't see a ".84" in that string.  I also
don't see it in the text of this e-mail; what I see looks a single glyph
whose strokes make 0.830 in very small letters.

I had an inspiration and checked with my font view application.  It tells
me my Ubuntu font is:

Name: Ubuntu

Style: Regular

Type: TrueType font

Version: 0.83

Copyright: Copyright 2011 Canonical Ltd. Licensed under the Ubuntu Font
License 1.0

Does this mean I don't have the new version?

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Chris, ahh. Yea, the new version is .84, and you can confirm you have it
> by seeing 0.84 in the beginning:
>
> pango-view --font="Ubuntu 48" --markup --text='
> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.'
>
> The other font you don't have. I removed it from the directions. It's from
> when we did the PPA testing. Thanks for catching this!
>
> Nicholas
>
> On 01/05/2016 03:40 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>
>> Nicholas, a further question if I may:
>>
>> I am running 100% up to date Wily.
>>
>> When, as per the instructions, I execute:
>>
>> pango-view --font="UbuntuPrerelease0910 48" --markup --text='> fallback="false"> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.'
>>
>> I see what appears to be exactly the same display as when I execute
>>
>> pango-view --font="Deja Vu 48" --markup --text='
>> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.'
>>
>> That is, the text looks to be rendered in exactly the same font: same
>> glyphs, same size, everything.  And pretty clearly different from plain old
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> Any ideas?  Is UbuntuPrerelease0910 not really installed in my Wily and
>> somehow I'm getting Deja Vu instead?  Should I be asking this question
>> somewhere else?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Nicholas Skaggs <
>> nicholas.ska...@canonical.com >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yea, crazy crazy link. I send in plain text, so I didn't think
>> about it. The link has spaces in it.
>>
>> Let me just end the madness by fixing the wiki:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFontFamily/Testing
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>>
>> On 01/05/2016 03:08 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
>>
>> Nicolas, that link redirected me to
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show=Ubuntu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs
>> > 
>> > >> wrote:
>>
>> Some of you have been at this already, but either way,
>> please have
>> a look at the new Ubuntu Font if you are running Wily. It
>> has some
>> fixes in it, specifically we need to verify 4 bugs + the
>> Arabic
>> and Hebrew fixes. Full details can be found here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu Font Family/Testing
>>
>> Happy Testing!
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
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Re: Ubuntu Font Testing

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Yea, crazy crazy link. I send in plain text, so I didn't think about it. 
The link has spaces in it.


Let me just end the madness by fixing the wiki:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFontFamily/Testing

Nicholas


On 01/05/2016 03:08 PM, chris hermansen wrote:
Nicolas, that link redirected me to 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=show=Ubuntu




On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Nicholas Skaggs 
> 
wrote:


Some of you have been at this already, but either way, please have
a look at the new Ubuntu Font if you are running Wily. It has some
fixes in it, specifically we need to verify 4 bugs + the Arabic
and Hebrew fixes. Full details can be found here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu Font Family/Testing

Happy Testing!

Nicholas

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Ubuntu Font Testing: Arabic

[Nicholas Skaggs]

Some of you may remember the birth of the ubuntu font family during the 
10.10 cycle. The time has come to finish that work as well as fix a few 
issues with the current font set. To start with, the design team has 
been working on Arabic, and is ready for some feedback on how the font 
looks and interacts.


To help gather your feedback, we've made a simple survey. It contains 
the information you need to get the font, as well as the opportunity to 
leave feedback.


https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ubuntuarabicfonttesting

I understand not many of you may speak Arabic or a related language, but 
if you do, please have a look.


For those of you who might be wondering about testing the rest of the 
ubuntu font family, the answer is yes! I'll be asking for testing of the 
entire fontset in the coming weeks. Look for it. In the meantime, please 
have a look at the Arabic font if possible. We welcome your testing and 
feedback.


Thanks,

Nicholas

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