Re: Unable to report bug

2018-12-05 Thread C de-Avillez
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM C de-Avillez  wrote:



> We know they are soft links because of the first character in the
> permissions field: 'l'. You
> now 'cd 06-ISO'. Since '06-ISO' is a soft link, your CWD is now moved
> to the *actual* directory
> pointed to by the soft link: /data/LIBRARY/06-ISO.
>
> And, from now on, any directory command will be based on the CWD,
> which is /data/LIBRARY/06-ISO, *not*
> ~/Downloads/06-ISO.
>
> So, if this is what you were trying to report, it is working as expected.

Erm...

confused myself.

You are mixing 'cd' (which is a shell command) with 'ls' (which is
part of coreutils).

For example:

I created, under ~, two directories: ~/test, and ~/test/test1:
cerdea@piatam:~$ ls -la test
total 12
drwxr-xr-x  3 cerdea cerdea 4096 Dec  5 10:42 ./
drwxr-xr-x 69 cerdea cerdea 4096 Dec  5 11:04 ../
drwxrwxr-x  2 cerdea cerdea 4096 Dec  5 10:43 test1/

I also created a soft link ~/test-sl -> test/test1:

cerdea@piatam:~$ ls -l | grep test-sl
lrwxrwxrwx   1 cerdea cerdea  10 Dec  5 10:44 test-sl -> test/test1/

Now, under ~, I cd to test-sl:

cerdea@piatam:~$ cd test-sl
cerdea@piatam:~/test-sl$ pwd
/home/cerdea/test-sl
cerdea@piatam:~/test-sl$ echo $OLDPWD
/home/cerdea

So bash knows I am under a soft-linked directory, and shows me that.

Now I 'ls ..':

cerdea@piatam:~/test-sl$ ls ..
test1/

And ~/test1 is shown -- correctly, since 'ls' uses the *actual* path.

But bash, being helpful, still use $OLDPWD to 'cd -' or 'cd ..':

cerdea@piatam:~/test-sl$ cd -
/home/cerdea
cerdea@piatam:~$


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Re: Unable to report bug

2018-12-05 Thread C de-Avillez
On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 9:34 AM bernard  wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thanks for your reply. I've been using Ubuntu for years, and it's an OS
> i like very much.
>
> I'm not attempting to report a bug about ubuntu-bug but a bug with
> ubuntu-bug. What i can't do without a core dump or crash report ...
>
> You'll find attached a 'script' file that show how Ubuntu behave in a
> particular situation and that, by comparison, do not react as the other
> OSes i'm actually working on.
>
> Feel free to transmit this or not to your team.
>
> Any further questions welcome.

Hi Bernard,

First of all, you *can* use ubuntu-bug without a crash report. As
Brian pointed out, you can use:

   ubuntu-bug 

where  is the package you want to report on. In this case, I
am *guessing*
you want to complain about 'ls's behaviour, so you would run:

ubuntu-bug coreutils

Since 'ls' is part of the coreutils package.

Now, for the script file you attached: you have, under ~/Downloads, a
series of soft links
to directories under /data. This can be seen here:

bernard@linbox:~/Downloads$ ls -l

Also, your CWD is ~/Downloads.

total 875452
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard26 déc.   2 00:53  00-ANIMATION
-> /data/LIBRARY/09-ANIMATION
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard22 déc.   1 23:32  01-BOOKS ->
/data/LIBRARY/01-BOOKS
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard19 déc.   2 00:50  02-BD ->
/data/LIBRARY/08-BD
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   2 00:23  03-MUSIC ->
/data/LIBRARY/03-MUSIC/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   1 23:51  04-FILMS ->
/data/LIBRARY/04-FILMS/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   2 02:38  05-UNREAD ->
/data/LIBRARY/10-UNREAD
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard21 déc.   2 02:37  06-ISO ->
/data/LIBRARY/06-ISO/

We know they are soft links because of the first character in the
permissions field: 'l'. You
now 'cd 06-ISO'. Since '06-ISO' is a soft link, your CWD is now moved
to the *actual* directory
pointed to by the soft link: /data/LIBRARY/06-ISO.

And, from now on, any directory command will be based on the CWD,
which is /data/LIBRARY/06-ISO, *not*
~/Downloads/06-ISO.

So, if this is what you were trying to report, it is working as expected.

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Re: Unable to report bug

2018-12-05 Thread bernard

Hi Brian,

Thanks for your reply. I've been using Ubuntu for years, and it's an OS 
i like very much.


I'm not attempting to report a bug about ubuntu-bug but a bug with 
ubuntu-bug. What i can't do without a core dump or crash report ...


You'll find attached a 'script' file that show how Ubuntu behave in a 
particular situation and that, by comparison, do not react as the other 
OSes i'm actually working on.


Feel free to transmit this or not to your team.

Any further questions welcome.

Best Regards,

Bernard Sanson

On 04/12/2018 01:05, Brian Murray wrote:

On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 04:29:16AM +0100, bernard wrote:

Hi,

I'm attempting to report you what i think is a bug (because other unix
systems i know don't behave the same way).

The problem is that i have no crash report to provide because my system is
working properly, but it works properly the wrong way.

Is the issue you are trying to report a crash or is it about an
application not behaving the way you expect? If it is the latter then
there would not be a crash report.


So i have two problems:

     1/ I have no crash report to provide to identify the problem cause i
have

     2/ I am unable to report the bug to launchpad because the system does
not open the browser page

I tried ubuntu-bug which sent something somewhere but didn't allow me to
describe the problem.

ubuntu-bug with an argument which can be a package name, or path to a
binary among other things should open a browser window or new tab with a
Launchpad url in it. Did you not get this behavior? If so what desktop
environment, browser, and release of Ubuntu are you running?

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Script started on 2018-12-04 18:49:08+01:00
]0;bernard@linbox: 
~/Downloadsbernard@linbox:~/Downloads$ ls -l
total 875452
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard26 déc.   2 00:53  
00-ANIMATION -> /data/LIBRARY/09-ANIMATION
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard22 déc.   1 23:32  01-BOOKS -> 
/data/LIBRARY/01-BOOKS
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard19 déc.   2 00:50  02-BD -> 
/data/LIBRARY/08-BD
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   2 00:23  03-MUSIC -> 
/data/LIBRARY/03-MUSIC/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   1 23:51  04-FILMS -> 
/data/LIBRARY/04-FILMS/
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard23 déc.   2 02:38  05-UNREAD 
-> /data/LIBRARY/10-UNREAD
lrwxrwxrwx  1 bernard bernard21 déc.   2 02:37  06-ISO -> 
/data/LIBRARY/06-ISO/
]0;bernard@linbox: 
~/Downloadsbernard@linbox:~/Downloads$ cd 06-ISO
]0;bernard@linbox: 
~/Downloads/06-ISObernard@linbox:~/Downloads/06-ISO$ 
ls -l ..
total 112
drwxr-xr-x   6 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 07:00 00-TODAY
drwxr-xr-x 109 bernard bernard 12288 déc.   2 17:12 01-BOOKS
drwxr-xr-x   8 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 16:01 02-PERSO
drwxr-xr-x 248 bernard bernard 20480 déc.   2 16:17 03-MUSIC
drwxr-xr-x 120 bernard bernard 28672 déc.   2 03:12 04-FILMS
drwxr-xr-x  25 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 17:10 05-DEVEL
drwxr-xr-x  17 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 16:06 06-ISO
drwxr-xr-x   9 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 15:27 07-IMAGES
drwxr-xr-x  13 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 04:33 08-BD
drwxrwxr-x   4 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 03:18 09-ANIMATION
drwxr-xr-x  19 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 04:37 10-UNREAD
drwxr-xr-x   5 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 16:16 96-BUSINESS
drwxr-xr-x  10 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 16:09 97-EVAL
drwxr-xr-x   6 bernard bernard  4096 nov.   3  2015 98-SPORT
drwxr-xr-x  16 bernard bernard  4096 déc.   2 15:56 99-MISC
-rwxr-xr-x   1 bernard bernard  3661 déc.   2 07:24 normalize.pl
]0;bernard@linbox: 
~/Downloads/06-ISObernard@linbox:~/Downloads/06-ISO$ 
cd ../07-IMAGES
]0;bernard@linbox: 
/data/LIBRARY/07-IMAGESbernard@linbox:/data/LIBRARY/07-IMAGES$
 pwd
/data/LIBRARY/07-IMAGES
]0;bernard@linbox: 
/data/LIBRARY/07-IMAGESbernard@linbox:/data/LIBRARY/07-IMAGES$
 exit
exit

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Re: Unable to report bug

2018-12-03 Thread Brian Murray
On Sun, Dec 02, 2018 at 04:29:16AM +0100, bernard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm attempting to report you what i think is a bug (because other unix
> systems i know don't behave the same way).
> 
> The problem is that i have no crash report to provide because my system is
> working properly, but it works properly the wrong way.

Is the issue you are trying to report a crash or is it about an
application not behaving the way you expect? If it is the latter then
there would not be a crash report.

> So i have two problems:
> 
>     1/ I have no crash report to provide to identify the problem cause i
> have
> 
>     2/ I am unable to report the bug to launchpad because the system does
> not open the browser page
> 
> I tried ubuntu-bug which sent something somewhere but didn't allow me to
> describe the problem.

ubuntu-bug with an argument which can be a package name, or path to a
binary among other things should open a browser window or new tab with a
Launchpad url in it. Did you not get this behavior? If so what desktop
environment, browser, and release of Ubuntu are you running?

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Unable to report bug

2018-12-03 Thread bernard

Hi,

I'm attempting to report you what i think is a bug (because other unix 
systems i know don't behave the same way).


The problem is that i have no crash report to provide because my system 
is working properly, but it works properly the wrong way.


So i have two problems:

    1/ I have no crash report to provide to identify the problem cause 
i have


    2/ I am unable to report the bug to launchpad because the system 
does not open the browser page


I tried ubuntu-bug which sent something somewhere but didn't allow me to 
describe the problem.



Could you please tell me how i should proceed ?

Best Regards,

Bernard

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