Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi Ahmed, Hi Adam, is there a something like a job description for the server guide maintainer? What work has to be done? How much time will this take approximately? How much time did you spend per week in the past? Another question: can we update the current server guide? How? Best regards, Stefan On 07/10/11 18:48, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 10/07/2011 06:11 PM, Peter Matulis wrote: On 11-09-13 09:44 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Will we use the same model for the next release? Hi Peter, absolutely! 12.04 is an LTS and I'd love to see our server docs in top shape. We'll even have more time in our hands to write more new content and to elaborate on topics that could use more details. If anyone in the community is interested in owning this project for 12.04, let me know cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 11-09-13 09:44 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Will we use the same model for the next release? -- Peter -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Ahmed, I would like to help if possible, and be on the team. Regards, Leo Jackson From: Ahmed Kamal k...@ubuntu.com To: Peter Matulis peter.matu...@canonical.com Cc: ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 12:48 PM Subject: Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed On 10/07/2011 06:11 PM, Peter Matulis wrote: On 11-09-13 09:44 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Will we use the same model for the next release? Hi Peter, absolutely! 12.04 is an LTS and I'd love to see our server docs in top shape. We'll even have more time in our hands to write more new content and to elaborate on topics that could use more details. If anyone in the community is interested in owning this project for 12.04, let me know cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam-- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Great! I think you already contributed for 11.10, and I'm glad you're happy to do it again for 12.04. I'll send out 12.04 emails once I get started on that On 10/07/2011 07:50 PM, Leo Jackson wrote: Ahmed, I would like to help if possible, and be on the team. Regards, Leo Jackson *From:* Ahmed Kamal k...@ubuntu.com *To:* Peter Matulis peter.matu...@canonical.com *Cc:* ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2011 12:48 PM *Subject:* Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed On 10/07/2011 06:11 PM, Peter Matulis wrote: On 11-09-13 09:44 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Will we use the same model for the next release? Hi Peter, absolutely! 12.04 is an LTS and I'd love to see our server docs in top shape. We'll even have more time in our hands to write more new content and to elaborate on topics that could use more details. If anyone in the community is interested in owning this project for 12.04, let me know cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed (some final chapters need adoption)
Got confirmations from: - twirrim (MySQL) - Koolhead17 (etckeeper) I will consider other chapters to be *orphaned* .. That is, if you'd like to save the world, please step up, write your name besides one of those chapters (as listed on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide ) and start reviewing. Thanks a lot On 10/05/2011 03:46 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Calling out to: - Christophe.sauthier (Package Management) - javiplx (Kerberos, Kerberos and Ldap) - guillaume-espanel (Monitoring) - twirrim (MySQL) - stefan-pynappels (LAMP overview) - guillaume-espanel (Backups) - Koolhead17 (etckeeper) Everyone listed above has some review chapters that are listed as TODO, or INPROGRESS. Since we're a week away from release, can everyone of you please update the status on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide ASAP and also to please reply to me by email (within 24hours) that you're still interested (or not) in working on that Thanks a lot, a lot of great work has been done, let's keep pushing Cheers On 09/27/2011 12:38 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 09/13/2011 03:44 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Cheers Hi again, Oneiric is approaching *fast*. Please visit http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and update your chapters' review status. Thanks a lot for everyone who has contributed to improving the serverguide. As usual, if you think you cannot review your chapters before 1st Oct, please consider reverting its status to TODO Thanks -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed (some final chapters need adoption)
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Ahmed Kamal k...@ubuntu.com wrote: Got confirmations from: - twirrim (MySQL) - Koolhead17 (etckeeper) I will consider other chapters to be *orphaned* .. That is, if you'd like to save the world, please step up, write your name besides one of those chapters (as listed on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide ) and start reviewing. Hi, I have almost finished the package management review locally. It would be pushed before monday morning. Sorry for the delay. Christophe --- Christophe Sauthier - 06 16 98 63 96 Objectif Libre www.objectif-libre.com Services et Formations Open Source Thanks a lot On 10/05/2011 03:46 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Calling out to: - Christophe.sauthier (Package Management) - javiplx (Kerberos, Kerberos and Ldap) - guillaume-espanel (Monitoring) - twirrim (MySQL) - stefan-pynappels (LAMP overview) - guillaume-espanel (Backups) - Koolhead17 (etckeeper) Everyone listed above has some review chapters that are listed as TODO, or INPROGRESS. Since we're a week away from release, can everyone of you please update the status on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide ASAP and also to please reply to me by email (within 24hours) that you're still interested (or not) in working on that Thanks a lot, a lot of great work has been done, let's keep pushing Cheers On 09/27/2011 12:38 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 09/13/2011 03:44 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Cheers Hi again, Oneiric is approaching *fast*. Please visit http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and update your chapters' review status. Thanks a lot for everyone who has contributed to improving the serverguide. As usual, if you think you cannot review your chapters before 1st Oct, please consider reverting its status to TODO Thanks -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Calling out to: - Christophe.sauthier (Package Management) - javiplx (Kerberos, Kerberos and Ldap) - guillaume-espanel (Monitoring) - twirrim (MySQL) - stefan-pynappels (LAMP overview) - guillaume-espanel (Backups) - Koolhead17 (etckeeper) Everyone listed above has some review chapters that are listed as TODO, or INPROGRESS. Since we're a week away from release, can everyone of you please update the status on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide ASAP and also to please reply to me by email (within 24hours) that you're still interested (or not) in working on that Thanks a lot, a lot of great work has been done, let's keep pushing Cheers On 09/27/2011 12:38 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 09/13/2011 03:44 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Cheers Hi again, Oneiric is approaching *fast*. Please visit http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and update your chapters' review status. Thanks a lot for everyone who has contributed to improving the serverguide. As usual, if you think you cannot review your chapters before 1st Oct, please consider reverting its status to TODO Thanks -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 11-09-27 06:38 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi again, Oneiric is approaching *fast*. Please visit http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and update your chapters' review status. Thanks a lot for everyone who has contributed to improving the serverguide. As usual, if you think you cannot review your chapters before 1st Oct, please consider reverting its status to TODO I'm still waiting on my 2 proposed sub-chapters (6.1 and 6.2) to be acted on. -- Peter -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 09/13/2011 03:44 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Cheers Hi again, Oneiric is approaching *fast*. Please visit http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and update your chapters' review status. Thanks a lot for everyone who has contributed to improving the serverguide. As usual, if you think you cannot review your chapters before 1st Oct, please consider reverting its status to TODO Thanks -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Dear serverguide reviewers, September is over soon. Time to check where we are standing with the reviews. Looking at http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide it looks good that all chapters are covered by someone. But we all should check/update the status of the reviews there now again. Does anyone need help with his review? Thanks, Stefan On 26 Aug 2011, at 14:14, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Status Update: == - 13 Chapters have been adopted and are being worked on - 1 chapter merged, 2 merge proposal pending https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/oneiric/+activereviews - 9 Chapters are waiting to be adopted (Email, File servers, Version control, LAMP, Chat Applications, Windows networking...etc). If you have interest in any of those and are considering contributing some of your time. Your help is really needed and now is a great time. Please add you name to http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide All instructions are on that page If you are already working on a chapter, this is a reminder to please update your status INPROGRESS = I am reviewing the chapter PROPOSED = Submitted merge proposal DONE = Merged If you took ownership of a (sub)chapter but you do not think you can finish it off around 1st of Oct, please regretfully revert its status back to TODO Thanks for all the help Cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Cheers http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 11-09-13 09:44 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/18/2011 01:49 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Wow, I have been bombarded with interested contributors! Thanks to everyone who replied offering to contribute, this is how we Ubuntu people get things done! For everyone wanting to contribute, here is what you need to do: - Visit: http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide - Pick a sub-chapter you would like to review, add your launchpad name to the end and change status from TODO to INPROGRESS Example: 4.2TCP/IP (TODO) would become 4.2 TCP/IP (INPROGRESS)(YOUR-LP-NAME) - That pad page also has instructions on how to grab the serverguide and work with it - If you've never used bzr before, this tutorial can be useful: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/mini-tutorial/ - If you need any help, ping me kim0 on irc. I hang out on #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-cloud. Or shoot me an email Note: While we've broken down the work items by sub-chapter, I would like to encourage you to own a full chapter since that should help with consistency Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching Hi Team, We are almost half way through this month. My soft goal is to have all chapters in a merge proposal by end of this month. If you're interested in a nice graphical representation of approximately where we are, please check this out http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/09/serverguide-review-progress/ - If you'd like to help with this effort, your help is needed and time is not on our side. Please do adopt a chapter on http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide all instructions are already on that page - If you already adopted a chapter, kindly update your chapters' status to one of: * TODO: Someone needs to adopt this * TODO + YourName : I am planning to review this sub-chapter. It will be ready for a merge proposal by end of this month * INPROGRESS: I am already on it, will be ready by end of month * PROPOSED: Merge proposal filed * DONE: Merged Can you provide instructions for how to propose a merge? What exactly are we supposed to do once the review/writing is done? -- Peter -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 09/13/2011 06:44 PM, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, a generic question: how do I behave if I think the guide I'm reviewing doesn't need any fix? I mean... do I mark it as DONE or something else? Thank you, If you have reviewed a section and you believe all the information is correct and up to date, then yes please mark it as Done -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi, I did this with chapter 20.1 Clustering/DRBD. The infomation there is per se ok. But I think it makes not much sense to just explain drbd as drbd alone makes no server cluster. Someone should write more about clustering. Stefan On 13 Sep 2011, at 19:08, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 09/13/2011 06:44 PM, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, a generic question: how do I behave if I think the guide I'm reviewing doesn't need any fix? I mean... do I mark it as DONE or something else? Thank you, If you have reviewed a section and you believe all the information is correct and up to date, then yes please mark it as Done -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Awesome, welcome Leo. Be sure to check http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide and grab a chapter from there On 09/01/2011 05:10 PM, Leo Jackson wrote: Kim, and Server Doc Team, I'm late to this party as well, but I grabed a few my login is (lajjr) https://launchpad.net/~lajjr https://launchpad.net/%7Elajjr I will try to complete over this weekend then grab a few more. Regards, Leo Jackson lajjr *From:* Ahmed Kamal k...@ubuntu.com *To:* ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2011 8:05 AM *Subject:* Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed On 08/30/2011 09:31 PM, Stefan Sticht wrote: Hi Stefan, I just recently joined the review team myself and as far as I can see it we still need help. For a start have a look at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2011-August/005805.html Our soft-goal is to have all chapters reviewed till end of September. Thanks for your help! Stefan Sticht On 30 Aug 2011, at 13:24, Stefan Pynappels wrote: Hi, I know I'm a little late to this party, but I'd like to help too. I'll look at what still needs doing and get started as soon as possible, any guidance happily accepted. Thanks Stefan^2 :) Rock on, if anyone need any help rolling this forward, please ping me (kim0) on irc. Thanks a lot -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi, I know I'm a little late to this party, but I'd like to help too. I'll look at what still needs doing and get started as soon as possible, any guidance happily accepted. Stefan -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi Stefan, I just recently joined the review team myself and as far as I can see it we still need help. For a start have a look at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2011-August/005805.html Our soft-goal is to have all chapters reviewed till end of September. Thanks for your help! Stefan Sticht On 30 Aug 2011, at 13:24, Stefan Pynappels wrote: Hi, I know I'm a little late to this party, but I'd like to help too. I'll look at what still needs doing and get started as soon as possible, any guidance happily accepted. Stefan -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Excerpts from Stefan Sticht's message of Sun Aug 28 19:33:49 -0700 2011: Hi guys, I am about to finish my rewrite of the OpenVPN chapter. Ideally I would like to show how to configure the VPN client using network manager using about three screenshots. Can we put pictures in the server guide? Can anyone point me to an example on how to do this? Stefan, I'm wondering.. how does one use network manager on a server? Do you mean using nmcli? -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi guys, I am about to finish my rewrite of the OpenVPN chapter. Ideally I would like to show how to configure the VPN client using network manager using about three screenshots. Can we put pictures in the server guide? Can anyone point me to an example on how to do this? If it's to complicated to include screenshots: no problem, I can describe in a few sentences as well. Cheers, Stefan -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On Friday, August 26, 2011 08:14:10 AM Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Status Update: == - 13 Chapters have been adopted and are being worked on - 1 chapter merged, 2 merge proposal pending https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/oneiric/+activerevi ews https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/oneiric/+active reviews - 9 Chapters are waiting to be adopted (Email, File servers, Version control, LAMP, Chat Applications, Windows networking...etc). If you have interest in any of those and are considering contributing some of your time. Your help is really needed and now is a great time. Please add you name to http://pad.ubuntu.com/serverguide All instructions are on that page If you are already working on a chapter, this is a reminder to please update your status INPROGRESS = I am reviewing the chapter PROPOSED = Submitted merge proposal DONE = Merged If you took ownership of a (sub)chapter but you do not think you can finish it off around 1st of Oct, please regretfully revert its status back to TODO Thanks for all the help Cheers I did just now attempt to propose merging https://code.launchpad.net/~kitterman/+junk/serverguide but was unable to (LP Bug #83473 ). I'd appreciate it if someone who can do such things would merge it. Since we're doing this in a VCS, I don't understand why we need a tracking page? If people have changes then they can be merged. Scott K -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Scott Kitterman ubu...@kitterman.com wrote: Since we're doing this in a VCS, I don't understand why we need a tracking page? If people have changes then they can be merged. The idea since the delay was quite short, was to avoid people looking at the same page and leaving unreviewed some parts... It migt give us the idea to have a minimal coverage of each chapter. Christophe --- Christophe Sauthier - 06 16 98 63 96 Objectif Libre www.objectif-libre.com Services et Formations Open Source -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 08/22/2011 09:09 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, August 22, 2011 02:51:31 PM Paul wrote: On 08/22/2011 04:00 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, August 22, 2011 08:21:35 AM Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/21/2011 09:31 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul Hi everyone, So I got two questions that I'd like to answer publicly 1- What is our deadline 2- What is the depth needed for the review My answer is 1- I'm no docs expert, but I checked and Oneiric documentation string freeze is Sep 15th. Allowing for 10 days for merge proposal discussions, we would have only *two weeks* starting today (22Aug-5Sep) to get all the content you would like to review in a ready to merge state from your perspective. As you can see this is not a lot of time, so your prompt help is needed Documentation string freeze is for documentation shipped in the archive. A few release cycles ago we removed the ubuntu-serverguide package and the guide is provided via help.ubuntu.com now, so we should have more time. That doesn't mean people shouldn't start working now, but it's not yet critical. So I should be okay for making some major changes to the chapter? If we're focussed on short term there are just a few small changes to make that I could do in about 5 minutes at lunchtime and commit. I should be able to get the MySQL section sorted in greater detail within about a week, maybe two at the outside. Postgresql will take me longer as I'm unfamiliar with it, but it's been something I've been meaning to learn (however if someone else wants to run with it, let me know.) I think the first priority should still be to verify the current content is correct for 11.10/Oneiric and to address bugs the people have filed. We do have time for more than that however. It's difficult to find a correct balance between Here's how to do it in a good, reliable way that works on Ubuntu, but it's only suitable for very narrow use cases and Oops, just replicated the upstream documentation and confused new people. I think some thoughts on different storage engines, why one might pick different ones, and how to get each going on Ubuntu would be useful with pointers to upstream documentation on the details of each. I always like it when someone comes into #ubuntu-server and asks for help, I've been try to X based on random internet HOWTO Y and it doesn't work, I point them at the server guide and say Do it this way and let me know if you have problems and they either don't come back or come back to say That worked, thanks. If you're into MySQL, you probably have a better idea of what X is than I do and you should just go tackle it. Scott K Thanks Scott, well put And just to re-iterate, now that we're not bound by the doc string freeze, we do have a little more time (a little over 6 weeks) till Oneiric is released. So kindly use the time to review/update the docs, and to add any missing important information (to me that would be second priority however). Use your best judgment whether or not a piece of info should go to the serverguide Thanks again for everyone who volunteered .. can't wait to see those merge proposals :) -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Excerpts from Ahmed Kamal's message of Wed Aug 24 06:07:06 -0700 2011: Thanks again for everyone who volunteered .. can't wait to see those merge proposals :) This brings up one question for me. I don't know that I'll have much time to scour the documentation, but I do allocate 4 hours of every month to patch piloting in Ubuntu. Will these merge proposals show up somewhere that I can sponsor? -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 8/24/2011 6:57 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Ahmed Kamal's message of Wed Aug 24 06:07:06 -0700 2011: Thanks again for everyone who volunteered .. can't wait to see those merge proposals :) This brings up one question for me. I don't know that I'll have much time to scour the documentation, but I do allocate 4 hours of every month to patch piloting in Ubuntu. Will these merge proposals show up somewhere that I can sponsor? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/oneiric https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-doc/serverguide/oneiric My merge request from Monday was processed nice and quickly (but admittedly wasn't the biggest of changes. Looks like we have a nice big one from Stefan awaiting for the networking section. Paul -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 08/21/2011 09:31 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul Hi everyone, So I got two questions that I'd like to answer publicly 1- What is our deadline 2- What is the depth needed for the review My answer is 1- I'm no docs expert, but I checked and Oneiric documentation string freeze is Sep 15th. Allowing for 10 days for merge proposal discussions, we would have only *two weeks* starting today (22Aug-5Sep) to get all the content you would like to review in a ready to merge state from your perspective. As you can see this is not a lot of time, so your prompt help is needed 2- Again, since we don't have much time, and since we should not re-create upstream documentation, I would try to avoid adding too much new content. I would focus this review on only making sure all the information in the guide is correct and up-to-date as of 11.10. This would include things like checking package names have not been changed, little code snippets actually work...etc. IMO, serverguide should focus on the Ubuntu specific parts and not attempt to replace upstream docs, with appropriate links to upstream docs I understand there's a lot that could be added, however the priority is making sure the info is correct and up to date Thanks all for the commitment and hard work! Keep rocking -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On Monday, August 22, 2011 08:21:35 AM Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/21/2011 09:31 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul Hi everyone, So I got two questions that I'd like to answer publicly 1- What is our deadline 2- What is the depth needed for the review My answer is 1- I'm no docs expert, but I checked and Oneiric documentation string freeze is Sep 15th. Allowing for 10 days for merge proposal discussions, we would have only *two weeks* starting today (22Aug-5Sep) to get all the content you would like to review in a ready to merge state from your perspective. As you can see this is not a lot of time, so your prompt help is needed Documentation string freeze is for documentation shipped in the archive. A few release cycles ago we removed the ubuntu-serverguide package and the guide is provided via help.ubuntu.com now, so we should have more time. That doesn't mean people shouldn't start working now, but it's not yet critical. 2- Again, since we don't have much time, and since we should not re-create upstream documentation, I would try to avoid adding too much new content. I would focus this review on only making sure all the information in the guide is correct and up-to-date as of 11.10. This would include things like checking package names have not been changed, little code snippets actually work...etc. IMO, serverguide should focus on the Ubuntu specific parts and not attempt to replace upstream docs, with appropriate links to upstream docs I understand there's a lot that could be added, however the priority is making sure the info is correct and up to date Thanks all for the commitment and hard work! Keep rocking Historically we have tried to pick one way to do a task and document that well (picking packages in Main over Universe when there is a choice). For most server guide tasks there is more than one way to do it. We want to pick one way that is suitable for relatively inexperienced admins and document it well. This allows new Ubuntu server users to quickly accomplish common tasks and gives us a standard configuration base for support. As an example, I still use cyrus-sasl2 for my mail servers, but we made a decision awhile back to standarize on dovecot for sasl in the server guide. It's easier to set up and we've been standardized on it for many releases. If someone asks about setting up SMTP Auth on #ubuntu-server, I point them to the server guide (and dovecot) rather than trying to get them to use my non- standard configuration. Scott K -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 08/22/2011 04:00 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, August 22, 2011 08:21:35 AM Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/21/2011 09:31 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul Hi everyone, So I got two questions that I'd like to answer publicly 1- What is our deadline 2- What is the depth needed for the review My answer is 1- I'm no docs expert, but I checked and Oneiric documentation string freeze is Sep 15th. Allowing for 10 days for merge proposal discussions, we would have only *two weeks* starting today (22Aug-5Sep) to get all the content you would like to review in a ready to merge state from your perspective. As you can see this is not a lot of time, so your prompt help is needed Documentation string freeze is for documentation shipped in the archive. A few release cycles ago we removed the ubuntu-serverguide package and the guide is provided via help.ubuntu.com now, so we should have more time. That doesn't mean people shouldn't start working now, but it's not yet critical. Thanks Scott, good to know -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On Monday, August 22, 2011 02:51:31 PM Paul wrote: On 08/22/2011 04:00 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, August 22, 2011 08:21:35 AM Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/21/2011 09:31 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul Hi everyone, So I got two questions that I'd like to answer publicly 1- What is our deadline 2- What is the depth needed for the review My answer is 1- I'm no docs expert, but I checked and Oneiric documentation string freeze is Sep 15th. Allowing for 10 days for merge proposal discussions, we would have only *two weeks* starting today (22Aug-5Sep) to get all the content you would like to review in a ready to merge state from your perspective. As you can see this is not a lot of time, so your prompt help is needed Documentation string freeze is for documentation shipped in the archive. A few release cycles ago we removed the ubuntu-serverguide package and the guide is provided via help.ubuntu.com now, so we should have more time. That doesn't mean people shouldn't start working now, but it's not yet critical. So I should be okay for making some major changes to the chapter? If we're focussed on short term there are just a few small changes to make that I could do in about 5 minutes at lunchtime and commit. I should be able to get the MySQL section sorted in greater detail within about a week, maybe two at the outside. Postgresql will take me longer as I'm unfamiliar with it, but it's been something I've been meaning to learn (however if someone else wants to run with it, let me know.) I think the first priority should still be to verify the current content is correct for 11.10/Oneiric and to address bugs the people have filed. We do have time for more than that however. It's difficult to find a correct balance between Here's how to do it in a good, reliable way that works on Ubuntu, but it's only suitable for very narrow use cases and Oops, just replicated the upstream documentation and confused new people. I think some thoughts on different storage engines, why one might pick different ones, and how to get each going on Ubuntu would be useful with pointers to upstream documentation on the details of each. I always like it when someone comes into #ubuntu-server and asks for help, I've been try to X based on random internet HOWTO Y and it doesn't work, I point them at the server guide and say Do it this way and let me know if you have problems and they either don't come back or come back to say That worked, thanks. If you're into MySQL, you probably have a better idea of what X is than I do and you should just go tackle it. Scott K -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 08/17/2011 06:33 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers Hi Ahmed, Is there a general idea of what level we ought to be aiming the documentation at? There is a bunch of things that could be added to the MySQL section, for example, without turning it into a full on MySQL Guide (unless that's what we're aiming at?). Currently it's focussed along the lines of 'this is how you install it, start it and a couple of minor tweaks'. It could be filled out with brief discussion of the different storage engines provided by the packages, their strengths and weaknesses etc. The approach seems to vary between different sections of the documentation, and even within the same chapter. It would seem in general that the database section is woefully lacking in detail compared to other chapters. Paul -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 11-08-18 07:49 AM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: On 08/17/2011 06:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Thanks again for offering to help, we have a limited time frame till 11.10 is released, so your prompt contributions are very welcome. Let's start crunching What is the deadline for all merge requests? -- Peter -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
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Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi Would love to help out. Please note this would be my first time with guides of any type so I'll need some direction. I am also getting into openstack more and more so it would be a good opportunity for me. Thanks lzantal On Aug 17, 2011, at 9:33, Ahmed Kamal k...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
Hi Ahmed, I am interested. Let me know what needs to be done in order to kick off this task force. I will be very happy to contribute. Thank you Leonardo Borda On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 18:33 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
After doing some digging around on Ubuntu's site, I guess this would be good steps for getting started: http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/08/help-ubuntu-improve-server-guide/ Is there any specific sections that are causes for concern, or should we just pick a section and roll with it? Paul On 08/17/2011 08:40 AM, Leonardo Borda wrote: Hi Ahmed, I am interested. Let me know what needs to be done in order to kick off this task force. I will be very happy to contribute. Thank you Leonardo Borda On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 18:33 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
Re: ServerGuide reviewers needed
On 11-08-17 12:33 PM, Ahmed Kamal wrote: Hi folks, As you know Adam the maintainer of the serverguide had stepped down. I'm trying to assemble a team of server oriented folks who are interested in reviewing the Ubuntu server guide (making sure all the info inside is fresh and accurate), this is only part of it, the team would also work on creating a fresh chapter on UbuntuCloud (openstack+orchestra+Ensemble). If you are interested, please raise your hand Cheers raises hand -- Peter -- ubuntu-server mailing list ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server More info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam
