Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Where do we get information about Ubuntu's systemd?
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:26:27 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: This same issue also exists between Ubuntu and Debian, causing unsolvable time differences between the two on a dual booting machine. I didn't know that timedatectl was simply being ignored in Ubuntu! Sorry for my wording. I don't know if it is ignored, that's just an assumption. Perhaps something else does cause the issue. This is the output of my archlinux and the way I set the hwclock, but it's equal to my Ubuntu install, so I suspect there's something else involved. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ timedatectl Local time: Wed 2015-07-29 10:14:57 CEST Universal time: Wed 2015-07-29 08:14:57 UTC RTC time: Wed 2015-07-29 10:14:56 Time zone: Europe/Berlin (CEST, +0200) Network time on: no NTP synchronized: no RTC in local TZ: yes Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC time in the local time zone. This mode can not be fully supported. It will create various problems with time zone changes and daylight saving time adjustments. The RTC time is never updated, it relies on external facilities to maintain it. If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by calling 'timedatectl set-local-rtc 0'. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep ntpdate /usr/local/bin/tool ntpdate ntp.favey.ch hwclock --set --date $(date);; I'll check later today all locals. Linux always suffers from using the English language, but a German keyboard and time zone. The German number pad provides a , instead of a .. Only a broken calculator (galculator) is able to handle this, unfortunately this calculator suffers from bugs. The biggest issue is, that Ubuntu comes with tons of scripts in init.d, using old run levels. If you store a script in init.d, that should be started by a systemd unit and you don't provide the old run levels, you get an error. If you store this script in another location, the unit can use this script. Ubuntu still comes with a bloated wrapper named service. I made a server install without installing additional server or virtualization packages, but e.g. a cron service is enabled, the pppoe module is loaded and there are definitively tons of services started, I still need to check what kernel modules automatically get loaded and were and when they are loaded and what services I can or need to disable. Regards, Ralf -- Wow, a dentist killed a lion and more people are upset because the lion is dead, than about Barack Obama's and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's henchmen who torture and kill innocent humans, or the increasing violence against asylum seekers in Germany. A good strike, perhaps it's just a political staging to distract attention from what really matters. -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Where do we get information about Ubuntu's systemd?
This same issue also exists between Ubuntu and Debian, causing unsolvable time differences between the two on a dual booting machine. I didn't know that timedatectl was simply being ignored in Ubuntu! What I would want would be a hardware clock that the OS can't change, set to local time in all cases. I never use network time updating due to the issue of having a requirement for machines that do not reveal their IP address to anything I do not deliberately connect to. Unfortunately Tor requires knowing the time zone to work so as to avoid time based attacks. Thankfully it does NOT require network time! On 7/28/2015 at 7:03 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: Hi, for at least 2½ years, perhaps for longer, I'm using a clean systemd Arch Linux install. Now I'm using Ubuntu's hybrid init script/systemd for the very first time. I run into issues. The first issue already is solved, I needed to disable an init script, before I could use my own systemd service. Now I wonder why timedatectl does show the same settings for my Arch Linux and my Ubuntu, but after running Ubuntu and rebooting to Arch Linux, the hwclock goes wrong. This doesn't happen when rebooting from other installs, e.g. from an Ubuntu using Upstart. I also wonder why the minimal server install already loads modules and enables services without user interaction. I've got two requests. 1. How can I chose between local TZ and UTC for the RTC, when timedatectl is ignored? 2. Is there a documentation about Ubuntu's systemd? I'm running the Ubuntu Wily Werewolf (development branch), but since Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) already dropped upstart, there might be a documentation available. It's freakish to search for an init script, that needs to be disabled, before I can use a systemd service. root@moonstudio:~# ls -hAl /etc/rcS.d/S09networking /etc/init.d/networking -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.7K Jun 2 09:32 /etc/init.d/networking lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jul 25 22:50 /etc/rcS.d/S09networking - ../init.d/networking root@moonstudio:~# update-rc.d networking disable insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `networking' overrides LSB defaults (S). insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 6 S) of script `networking' overrides LSB defaults (0 6). insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `networking' overrides LSB defaults (S). insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 6 S) of script `networking' overrides LSB defaults (0 6). root@moonstudio:~# ls -hAl /etc/rcS.d/S09networking /etc/init.d/networking ls: cannot access /etc/rcS.d/S09networking: No such file or directory -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4.7K Jun 2 09:32 /etc/init.d/networking root@moonstudio:~# systemctl enable alice.service Created symlink from /etc/systemd/system/multi- user.target.wants/alice.service to /lib/systemd/system/alice.service. Regards, Ralf -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
