On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:26:27 -0400, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote:
>This same issue also exists between Ubuntu and Debian, causing
>unsolvable time differences between the two on a dual booting machine.
>I didn't know that timedatectl was simply being ignored in Ubuntu!

Sorry for my wording. I don't know if it is ignored, that's just an
assumption. Perhaps something else does cause the issue.

This is the output of my archlinux and the way I set the hwclock, but
it's equal to my Ubuntu install, so I suspect there's something else
involved.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ timedatectl
      Local time: Wed 2015-07-29 10:14:57 CEST
  Universal time: Wed 2015-07-29 08:14:57 UTC
        RTC time: Wed 2015-07-29 10:14:56
       Time zone: Europe/Berlin (CEST, +0200)
 Network time on: no
NTP synchronized: no
 RTC in local TZ: yes

Warning: The system is configured to read the RTC time in the local time zone.
         This mode can not be fully supported. It will create various problems
         with time zone changes and daylight saving time adjustments. The RTC
         time is never updated, it relies on external facilities to maintain it.
         If at all possible, use RTC in UTC by calling
         'timedatectl set-local-rtc 0'.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep ntpdate /usr/local/bin/tool 
    ntpdate ntp.favey.ch && hwclock --set --date "$(date)";;

I'll check later today all locals. Linux always suffers from using the
English language, but a German keyboard and time zone. The German
number pad provides a "," instead of a ".". Only a broken
calculator (galculator) is able to handle this, unfortunately this
calculator suffers from bugs.

The biggest issue is, that Ubuntu comes with tons of scripts in init.d,
using old run levels. If you store a script in init.d, that should be
started by a systemd unit and you don't provide the old run levels, you
get an error. If you store this script in another location, the unit
can use this script. Ubuntu still comes with a bloated wrapper named
"service".

I made a server install without installing additional server or
virtualization packages, but e.g. a cron service is enabled, the pppoe
module is loaded and there are definitively tons of services started, I
still need to check what kernel modules automatically get loaded and
were and when they are loaded and what services I can or need to
disable.

Regards,
Ralf

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