Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
Original Message Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory? Local Time: July 7, 2016 11:58 PM UTC Time: July 7, 2016 9:58 PM From: s...@ubuntustudio.org To: ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Also I still think that a clear, "official-ish" message from the > core team of Ubuntu Studio would be a great asset. So far, I have > been telling people that "If NEC students provide bug reports, > Ubuntu developers will respond to fix them". Does that sound > correct? > No, it doesn't sound correct. We are a small team of volunteers working for the love of Art under the Ubuntu (canonical) umbrella, and we haven't given you any such promises. Have you talked to Canonical? They are the only ones that may pronounce themselves on this level. The Ubuntu Studio developer team is dedicated to package multimedia software into an Ubuntu flavor for multimedia production. You *cannot* expect Ubuntu _Studio_ to prioritize your schools matter over any other user. It is sort of correct. If you file a bug, if anyone file a bug, an Ubuntu developer will take a look and evaluate. There is no guarantee the bug will be fixed, just as for anyone, and it will most likely not be anyone in the Ubuntu Studio team as most of the current members are not developers. However, we and the Ubuntu flavours work to get bug fixed by getting help upstream either in Ubuntu or even Debian. The great thing by using open source is that NEC can also help out solving bugs, by reporting them, testing or even contribute to the code (if possible). So, IMHO, if NEC students provide bug reports Ubuntu contributors will respond. I can't make any promises about fixes though and prioritization is done concerning the bug itself, how many are affected etc, not depending on who does the actual report. There won't be any special process for handling bugs from NEC. If NEC students and employees would become active in the communities you have greater possibilities to make your wishes and needs heard and be able to bring changes forward. /Jimmy-- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
On 07/07/2016 05:58 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote: > If you want to use Ubuntu Studio in your classes, you are welcome > to do so on your own behalf. If you expect official statements and > support guarantees, please reach out to Canonical. > http://partners.ubuntu.com/contact-us Done. Fingers crossed! (and probably a lot of work ahead) Thanks! Devin -- Devin Ulibarri (505) 379-6253 www.devinulibarri.com -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
On 07/07/2016 05:58 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote: >> Also I still think that a clear, "official-ish" message from the >> > core team of Ubuntu Studio would be a great asset. So far, I have >> > been telling people that "If NEC students provide bug reports, >> > Ubuntu developers will respond to fix them". Does that sound >> > correct? >> > > No, it doesn't sound correct. We are a small team of volunteers working > for the love of Art under the Ubuntu (canonical) umbrella, and we > haven't given you any such promises. Have you talked to Canonical? Okay, I get it now. Thanks! I am trying to get in contact with Canonical. It is just that the "Studio" in Ubuntu Studio is a much more promising sell for a music school that is generally fearful of venturing into the unfamiliar world of technology. I will start communicating with Canonical about partnership stuff. Thanks! If I get students, I will say that they can join the Ubuntu Studio community and show them where to go (mail list, IRC, website)--I think I can promise that (with no other promises). Thank you! Devin -- Devin Ulibarri (505) 379-6253 www.devinulibarri.com -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
Maybe they should be reminded that they are using Linux every time they connect to a webserver, fire up an Android phone, or even use some embedded systems. In some markets MS has little more market share than Apple had in 1999-and even OSx is just a proprietary Unix with a custom DE and window system; On 7/7/2016 at 9:31 PM, "Devin" wrote: > >On 07/07/2016 09:16 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: >> Why on Earth are they first going out of their way to buy Ubuntu >machines, >> then installing Windows? > >When I asked, they said it is b/c those machines are cheaper. They >already have a school license with Windows (perhaps 500 machines >or so) >and they just use that to install school-wide on the (cheaper) >Ubuntu >machines. > >Yeah, I think it is insane. > >What is making this even more difficult is the IT team has no idea >what >GNU/Linux is--the guy said, "yeah, [One thing I regret as part of >my >profession is that] I don't really know much about Linux." > >So, these people have gone their whole lives/careers without much >hacking AT. ALL. > >...so, I am doing my best to get them up to speed. I gave them a >little >GNU history lesson to begin with. > >Devin > >-- >Devin Ulibarri >(505) 379-6253 >www.devinulibarri.com > >-- >ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list >ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
On 07/07/2016 09:16 PM, lukefro...@hushmail.com wrote: > Why on Earth are they first going out of their way to buy Ubuntu machines, > then installing Windows? When I asked, they said it is b/c those machines are cheaper. They already have a school license with Windows (perhaps 500 machines or so) and they just use that to install school-wide on the (cheaper) Ubuntu machines. Yeah, I think it is insane. What is making this even more difficult is the IT team has no idea what GNU/Linux is--the guy said, "yeah, [One thing I regret as part of my profession is that] I don't really know much about Linux." So, these people have gone their whole lives/careers without much hacking AT. ALL. ...so, I am doing my best to get them up to speed. I gave them a little GNU history lesson to begin with. Devin -- Devin Ulibarri (505) 379-6253 www.devinulibarri.com -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
Why on Earth are they first going out of their way to buy Ubuntu machines, then installing Windows? Is it an attempt to avoid preinstalled crapware or vendor-provided malicious extras perhaps? Maybe the Lenovo crapware with UEFI driven reinstallation got their attention and they simply don't want any vendor provided OS? Hell, with some vendors if you want to run Linux starting with Windows machines might be safer for the same reason, save for the risk of getting unbootable crap. On 7/7/2016 at 5:58 PM, "Set Hallstrom" wrote: > >Hi, > >On 2016-07-07 23:15, Devin Ulibarri wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This is my update: >> >> I just found out that the IT team at New England Conservatory >(NEC) >> is purchasing DELL computers with "Ubuntu" pre-installed, but >wiping >> their hard drives and installing Windows instead. >> >> The IT team said they are willing to consider making some >computers >> available with Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio) on them, but they need >a >> educational reason before they commit themselves to providing >these >> computers to NEC. >> >> I am working with other teachers to see if we can bring Ubuntu >> Studio to the school. >> >> Also I still think that a clear, "official-ish" message from the >> core team of Ubuntu Studio would be a great asset. So far, I have >> been telling people that "If NEC students provide bug reports, >> Ubuntu developers will respond to fix them". Does that sound >> correct? >> > >No, it doesn't sound correct. We are a small team of volunteers >working >for the love of Art under the Ubuntu (canonical) umbrella, and we >haven't given you any such promises. Have you talked to Canonical? >They >are the only ones that may pronounce themselves on this level. The >Ubuntu Studio developer team is dedicated to package multimedia >software >into an Ubuntu flavor for multimedia production. You *cannot* >expect >Ubuntu _Studio_ to prioritize your schools matter over any other >user. > >> Is there anything else I can add without over-reaching any >promises? > >I'm sorry if i wasn't clear enough when i wrote to you On 2016-05- >30 >09:17, Set Hallstrom wrote: >> >>> TBH our "brand" belongs to Canonical. Hence we cannot provide >you >>> with any such support officially without the benediction of >>> Canonical. So if you need the backup of a corporation, your >best >>> bet is to talk to canonical directly. But like Autumna says, it >>> isn't necessary. After all GNU/Linux is (not limited to, but >also) >>> about computing /by/ the people /for/ the people. >>> > >If you want to use Ubuntu Studio in your classes, you are welcome >to do >so on your own behalf. If you expect official statements and >support >guarantees, please reach out to Canonical. >http://partners.ubuntu.com/contact-us > >However, and *no promisses attached* , i will personaly try my >best to >forward your intentions in order to put you on the right path >within >that organisation. > >-- >Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
Hi, On 2016-07-07 23:15, Devin Ulibarri wrote: > Hi, > > This is my update: > > I just found out that the IT team at New England Conservatory (NEC) > is purchasing DELL computers with "Ubuntu" pre-installed, but wiping > their hard drives and installing Windows instead. > > The IT team said they are willing to consider making some computers > available with Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio) on them, but they need a > educational reason before they commit themselves to providing these > computers to NEC. > > I am working with other teachers to see if we can bring Ubuntu > Studio to the school. > > Also I still think that a clear, "official-ish" message from the > core team of Ubuntu Studio would be a great asset. So far, I have > been telling people that "If NEC students provide bug reports, > Ubuntu developers will respond to fix them". Does that sound > correct? > No, it doesn't sound correct. We are a small team of volunteers working for the love of Art under the Ubuntu (canonical) umbrella, and we haven't given you any such promises. Have you talked to Canonical? They are the only ones that may pronounce themselves on this level. The Ubuntu Studio developer team is dedicated to package multimedia software into an Ubuntu flavor for multimedia production. You *cannot* expect Ubuntu _Studio_ to prioritize your schools matter over any other user. > Is there anything else I can add without over-reaching any promises? I'm sorry if i wasn't clear enough when i wrote to you On 2016-05-30 09:17, Set Hallstrom wrote: > >> TBH our "brand" belongs to Canonical. Hence we cannot provide you >> with any such support officially without the benediction of >> Canonical. So if you need the backup of a corporation, your best >> bet is to talk to canonical directly. But like Autumna says, it >> isn't necessary. After all GNU/Linux is (not limited to, but also) >> about computing /by/ the people /for/ the people. >> If you want to use Ubuntu Studio in your classes, you are welcome to do so on your own behalf. If you expect official statements and support guarantees, please reach out to Canonical. http://partners.ubuntu.com/contact-us However, and *no promisses attached* , i will personaly try my best to forward your intentions in order to put you on the right path within that organisation. -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
Hi, This is my update: I just found out that the IT team at New England Conservatory (NEC) is purchasing DELL computers with "Ubuntu" pre-installed, but wiping their hard drives and installing Windows instead. The IT team said they are willing to consider making some computers available with Ubuntu (or Ubuntu Studio) on them, but they need a educational reason before they commit themselves to providing these computers to NEC. I am working with other teachers to see if we can bring Ubuntu Studio to the school. Also I still think that a clear, "official-ish" message from the core team of Ubuntu Studio would be a great asset. So far, I have been telling people that "If NEC students provide bug reports, Ubuntu developers will respond to fix them". Does that sound correct? Is there anything else I can add without over-reaching any promises? Thanks again! Devin -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ardour back port testing
On 2016-07-07 05:37, C. F. Howlett wrote: The proposed message looks good. C. F. Howlett Thanks cfhowlett and Len :) Krytarik did a deep digging and found/corrected quite a few errors and it is now live on: http://ubuntustudio.org/2016/07/backports-the-benefits-and-the-consequences/ I think it would be good _not_ to just copy paste the entire post to social medias, but to use the title and link to the post on our website. As one of my favorite refrain goes: "Social-media sites are our satellites, we are not a satellite of the social-media sites" :) cfhowlett: can you take care of facebook and reddit? i'll take care of diaspora and twitter. I'll write a post in french for linuxmao later this week. y'all: share if you care! :) On another tone: We got a mail to impr...@ubuntustudio.org pointing to the article about feature definition: http://ubuntustudio.org/2016/05/help-us-put-some-polish-on-ubuntu-studio/ We got quite a lot of response over there <3 but i received exactly 0 notifications. What do we need to do to enable notification to the PR-team? Contact RT? Fine tune WP setting? Anybody has a clue? There are 14 comments, cfhwolett: you take 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and i take 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 ? :) Read you soon y'all! -- Set aka ~sakrecoer -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
