Re: Jaunty RT

[Christopher Stamper]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Gustin Johnson  wrote:
>
> >
> > So, looking forward: will we be able to switch to 9.04? In other words,
> > will 9.04 have RT support, or will we still be stuck with 8.04?
> >
> I have RT in 8.10.  All that it required was building my own kernel (a
> 2.6.28), so you are not "stuck" with 8.04 right now if you do not want
> to be.


People who don't want to bother compiling a kernel are 'stuck'; anyway, it's
easier to stay with 8.04.

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Re: Backporting Jack

[hollunder]

On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:29:44 -0500
"Cory K."  wrote:

> sue...@empire.net wrote:
> > I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
> 
> Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps.
> One's that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things
> may change, but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
> 
> 
> -Cory K.
> 

Just curious, what libs would that be?
I'm not actively using ubuntu studio at the moment (had no problems
with my distro) but I might help someone soon..

Philipp

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Re: Backporting Jack

[Gustin Johnson]

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Christopher Stamper wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Cory K.  > wrote:
> 
> sue...@empire.net  wrote:
> > I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
> 
> Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
> that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
> but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
> 
> 
> So, looking forward: will we be able to switch to 9.04? In other words,
> will 9.04 have RT support, or will we still be stuck with 8.04?
> 
I have RT in 8.10.  All that it required was building my own kernel (a
2.6.28), so you are not "stuck" with 8.04 right now if you do not want
to be.


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Re: Backporting Jack

[Gustin Johnson]

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sue...@empire.net wrote:
>> Original Message:

> At this point, since Jack was stable before the build, I'm probably going
> to install Ubuntu Studio from scratch and hopefully get back to where I was.
> 
This is why you build Debianized (Ubuntized?) packages.  No reinstall
required.  If you must install by hand, keeping everything under
/usr/local makes life easier as well.
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Re: Complete guide (Marcus Roos)

[Viktor Mastoridis]

>
> Hi Markus,


coming from windows/Cubase, I found very useful the following guides on the
net. They contain  many other links as well.

*1. HowTo Jack configuration:*
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToJACKConfiguration

which is interlinked with the more general and highly useful:
*2. UbuntuStudio preparation:*
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation

*3. Soundcard compatibility* - definitely check the Alsa guide:
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main

4. On the long run, I recommend browsing through and reading the articles of
Dave Philips on LinuxJournal: they are written with a light, understandable,
yet highly informative style. You will get ideas which software does what
and at what quality level in Linux Audio
http://www.linuxjournal.com/users/dave-phillips/track

Greetings,
Viktor



> Hi!
> My Name is Marcus (from Sweden) and I'm one of the newest here on the
> list.
>
> I have been using Cubase on Windows for 10 ears.
> I installed Ubuntu on my laptop some months ago... and I really liked
> it.
> Now I want to try  make some music. Maybe using Ardour or similar
> program.
>
> But I'm totally trapped in the "Windows way of thinking" :(
> I have no idea that all how to configure Jack for example.
> Is there any simple guides out on the net that tells a novice how to
> start?
>
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Re: Announcement: Ardour 2.7.1 will land in hardy + intrepid

[wayne]

thanks for your help.  will definitely try out the new packages once
they are in the Hardy repos.

peace, w


On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 15:05 +0100, Khashayar Naderehvandi wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I am happy to announce that Ardour 2.7.1 has been accepted for
> backporting to Hardy as well as Intrepid [1]. It should end up in the
> appropriate repos anytime soon.
> 
> This is hopefully the beginning of a more active backporting effort
> within Ubuntu Studio. It seemed important to me to get this particular
> package through to start with, as it's one of the most important ones
> in a DAW context. If there are packages that you want to see
> backported, please let me know and I'll try to get the ball rolling.
> Just remember that libraries and such (e.g. jack) won't be backported.
> 
> Just a couple of weeks back, I was a regular user who needed
> up-to-date packages. I started looking into how I could build the
> jaunty packages locally for myself. But why not share, when the
> packages are built, I thought. After an email to this list, I was
> invited to work more closely with the dev group. The step from "using"
> to "sharing" is small, and the step from "sharing" to working more
> officially was smaller than I thought. I've realized that it's not too
> hard to make a difference. In fact, the easiest thing one could do,
> which would nevertheless be a very big help to us all, is testing. We
> have a release ahead of us that will hopefully be worth upgrading to,
> from both hardy and intrepid. But like said, to make that happen, we
> will need testers :-)
> 
> All the best from your dedicated backportman,
> Khashayar
> 
> 
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/299287
> 
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Re: Backporting Jack

[sandie]

Cory K. wrote:
> sue...@empire.net wrote:
>   
>> I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
>> 
>
> Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
> that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
> but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
>   
I used this guide from UbuntuForum :
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1018236

This will "install JACK 0.116.1 *ALONG SIDE* the previous installs of 
the jackd 0.109.2 and libjack0 0.109.2 packages."

Works fine for me in Hardy 32bit, don't know about 64bit thou.

/Sandie

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RE: Backporting Jack

[sue...@empire.net]

>
>Original Message:
>-
>From: Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:29:44 -0500
>To: sue...@empire.net, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Backporting Jack
>
>
>sue...@empire.net wrote:
>> I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
>
>Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
>that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
>but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
>
>
>-Cory K.

That's understandable.

The reason I was attempting to compile Jack 116 was to get the alsa_in and
alsa_out.

But, I ended up with more questions than answers:

- the resulting build did not create executables for them. Even though the
source is in the tools folder under the extracted tar ball.
- I mentioned the quest for alsa_in/out in another forum and others thought
these had been there for some time (years) i.e they should be there in Jack
109.
- I've found no googled info about compiling them separately.

At this point, since Jack was stable before the build, I'm probably going
to install Ubuntu Studio from scratch and hopefully get back to where I was.

Mac



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RE: Backporting Jack

[sue...@empire.net]

>
>Original Message:
>-
>From: Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:29:44 -0500
>To: sue...@empire.net, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Backporting Jack
>
>
>sue...@empire.net wrote:
>> I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
>
>Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
>that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
>but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
>
>
>-Cory K.

That's understandable.

The reason I was attempting to compile Jack 116 was to get the alsa_in and
alsa_out.

But, I ended up with more questions than answers:

- the resulting build did not create executables for them. Even though the
source is in the tools folder under the extracted tar ball.
- I mentioned the quest for alsa_in/out in another forum and others thought
these had been there for some time (years) i.e they should be there in Jack
109.
- I've found no googled info about compiling them separately.

At this point, since Jack was stable before the build, I'm probably going
to install Ubuntu Studio from scratch and hopefully get back to where I was.

Mac



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Re: Backporting Jack

[Christopher Stamper]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Cory K.  wrote:

> sue...@empire.net wrote:
> > I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?
>
> Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
> that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
> but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.
>

So, looking forward: will we be able to switch to 9.04? In other words, will
9.04 have RT support, or will we still be stuck with 8.04?

I know I could google for it, but...


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Backporting Jack

[Cory K.]

sue...@empire.net wrote:
> I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?

Because it requires backporting other libs that effect other apps. One's
that we aren't gonna be responsible for at this time. Things may change,
but for now, we won't be backporting JACK.


-Cory K.

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RE: Announcement: Ardour 2.7.1 will land in hardy + intrepid

[sue...@empire.net]

Add my thanks for your efforts.

I'm curious as to why Jack won't be backported?

As one who recently ended up with a completely unstable Jack 116 after
building on my Ubuntu Studio Hardy amd64, I'd love to have the latest Jack
that works...

;-)

>Original Message:
>-
>From: Khashayar Naderehvandi khashayar.li...@gmail.com
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:05:54 +0100
>To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Announcement: Ardour 2.7.1 will land in hardy + intrepid
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>I am happy to announce that Ardour 2.7.1 has been accepted for
>backporting to Hardy as well as Intrepid [1]. It should end up in the
>appropriate repos anytime soon.
>
>This is hopefully the beginning of a more active backporting effort
>within Ubuntu Studio. It seemed important to me to get this particular
>package through to start with, as it's one of the most important ones
>in a DAW context. If there are packages that you want to see
>backported, please let me know and I'll try to get the ball rolling.
>Just remember that libraries and such (e.g. jack) won't be backported.
>
>Just a couple of weeks back, I was a regular user who needed
>up-to-date packages. I started looking into how I could build the
>jaunty packages locally for myself. But why not share, when the
>packages are built, I thought. After an email to this list, I was
>invited to work more closely with the dev group. The step from "using"
>to "sharing" is small, and the step from "sharing" to working more
>officially was smaller than I thought. I've realized that it's not too
>hard to make a difference. In fact, the easiest thing one could do,
>which would nevertheless be a very big help to us all, is testing. We
>have a release ahead of us that will hopefully be worth upgrading to,
>from both hardy and intrepid. But like said, to make that happen, we
>will need testers :-)
>
>All the best from your dedicated backportman,
>Khashayar
>
>
>[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/299287
>
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RE: Announcement: Ardour 2.7.1 will land in hardy + intrepid

[Gregory Boehnlein]

> Dear all,
> 
> I am happy to announce that Ardour 2.7.1 has been accepted for
> backporting to Hardy as well as Intrepid [1]. It should end up in the
> appropriate repos anytime soon.

Thank you for your efforts!



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Announcement: Ardour 2.7.1 will land in hardy + intrepid

[Khashayar Naderehvandi]

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that Ardour 2.7.1 has been accepted for
backporting to Hardy as well as Intrepid [1]. It should end up in the
appropriate repos anytime soon.

This is hopefully the beginning of a more active backporting effort
within Ubuntu Studio. It seemed important to me to get this particular
package through to start with, as it's one of the most important ones
in a DAW context. If there are packages that you want to see
backported, please let me know and I'll try to get the ball rolling.
Just remember that libraries and such (e.g. jack) won't be backported.

Just a couple of weeks back, I was a regular user who needed
up-to-date packages. I started looking into how I could build the
jaunty packages locally for myself. But why not share, when the
packages are built, I thought. After an email to this list, I was
invited to work more closely with the dev group. The step from "using"
to "sharing" is small, and the step from "sharing" to working more
officially was smaller than I thought. I've realized that it's not too
hard to make a difference. In fact, the easiest thing one could do,
which would nevertheless be a very big help to us all, is testing. We
have a release ahead of us that will hopefully be worth upgrading to,
from both hardy and intrepid. But like said, to make that happen, we
will need testers :-)

All the best from your dedicated backportman,
Khashayar


[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports/+bug/299287

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