Re: ubuntu studio install
brad when ubuntu studio is installed on a (system76 pangolin) ubuntu system (8.10), does it replace the existing applications? does it make any sense to partion the drive as ubuntu and ubuntu studio? does it make any sense to pay for ubuntu installation and support only to blow it all off by installing studio? does a faster, smaller 7200rpm vs a larger, slower 5400rpm drive make a significant difference for studio work? thanks for any perspective personally I woud get the 7200rpm drive. That throughput will help on a non-optimized system ( meaning without a dedicated low-latency audio interface ) Mike -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sean Edwards wrote: If you wan rsync, tar and other Unix type utilities, you can get get the Cygwin environment for Windows: http://www.cygwin.net/cygwin/ This does not come with windows which was my point. Having said that, I can't imagine using Windows without cygwin. I use it at home and on many client machines. I think we have strayed OT now so that is all I will say. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJhravwRXgH3rKGfMRAgWdAJ93SUsfmWxm3P/hgUw84dtXwWLe9gCeKqnZ S2vYp0lTZRH/5hPjzkEQ3D0= =0SbW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3
On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:00 AM, ubuntu-studio-users- requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: I do however want to note that 3 out of 3 professional studio's (places with massive Neve consoles and the like) I've worked at had RAID going with their Pro-Tools setups. There was never a backup /app/. ;) RAID is a backup *strategy* not a backup app Redundant Array of Independent Disks (RAID) is a way that extra data is written across the array, which are organized so that the failure of one (sometimes more) disks in the array will not result in loss of data. A failed disk may be replaced by a new one, and the data on it reconstructed from the remaining data and the extra data. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
Kim Cascone wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:00 AM, ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: I do however want to note that 3 out of 3 professional studio's (places with massive Neve consoles and the like) I've worked at had RAID going with their Pro-Tools setups. There was never a backup /app/. ;) RAID is a backup *strategy* - not a backup app *sigh* Point is, you're saying pro's use apps for backup, and it just hasn't been my experience in *any* professional studio. Man this is beat to death. I'm done. ;) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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thanks for all the system76 related suggestions!
I'm ordering the pangolin with the fastest drive today.
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Re: buy a sound card
On Feb 2, 2009, at 12:30 AM, laurent.bellegarde wrote: Hi everyone, I'm writting a book about audio-video editing with free software... I need too examples of sound card that runs without any trouble or very easily under GNU/Linux, for beginners (and cheaper) : for medium use, semi-pro : for professionnal use : Haha - good luck with that. Seriously, though, if you actually find examples that are currently available (i.e. I can order one from Sweetwater/Musiciansfriend/etc.) and supported by their manufacturers, please post your results. I would be very interested to know this myself. One of the main sticking points I've run into as I consider switching my DAW to Linux is the lack of support for audio/MIDI interfaces. Linux developers seem to be doing their best to write drivers, but many manufacturers either ignore Linux, or are downright hostile to it (and its users). I got lectured on the Mackie Forums when I asked into a Linux driver for my Mackie 400F FW audio interface. Who cares about Linux?, Linux sucks, and Linux users/developers suck more, I don't even use a Mac, let alone Linux - people only care about Windows, were the attitudes I ran into there. I think the company's official position re: Linux is probably a little more diplomatic, but that is the kind of response I got from one guy in particular who I had thought was a Mackie rep. To get started, assuming you haven't already seen these, you can look here: www.ffado.org and here: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page Bon chance! ld Thanks a lot for yours answers, Laurent -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: buy a sound card
laurent.bellegarde wrote: Hi everyone, I'm writting a book about audio-video editing with free software for a famous editor in France. I'm talking a lot about ubuntu studio. As i'm not a musician, i have few question about for someone who wants to run GNU/Linux for MAO - what's a cheaper price for an amateur sound card ? $50 - what's a good price for a medium sound card ? $125 - What's a good price for a professional sound card ? $150+ what's the main difference between a first price sound card and a professionnal one ? The 1st I would say is primarily for playback while the latter can handle multi-track recording at a high track#. I need too examples of sound card that runs without any trouble or very easily under GNU/Linux, for beginners (and cheaper) : for medium use, semi-pro : for professionnal use : I'd say this is the best resource to answer the question once people with a little more knowledge can give you specific card recommendations. http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers shen --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: From: Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com Subject: Re: studio backups To: 'Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion' ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Monday, 2 February, 2009, 5:51 PM To *everyone*. Do not email me directly for personal issues. I'm a very in-the-open person. If there's a conflict, do it in the open so things are documented. Kim Cascone wrote: Cory your subtle condescension on the list is not appreciated and blowing me off by directing me to write a HOWTO that *someone* might find useful is asshat behavior If that's you perception, so be it. I didn't sub to your list to make you look smart by letting you win every discussion and I also don't back down from confrontations easily Sounds like you've admitted to a personal problem. Maybe take that into consideration. if part the goal of the UbuntuStudio list is to welcome and educate n00bz then I feel it is a disservice to dismiss the subject of backups many Linux newbies can't find a backup app easily, don't have command line chops or don't ask for help online in fear of being shot down or subtly condescended to in public Again. Perception and a place where you can make things better. also, with all due respect three 'pro' studio does not a statistical sample make (I visit that many pro studios on one tour) while this might impress someone who hasn't worked in the music industry for 25 years I find it to be purely anecdotal evidence and since you didn't mention *which* pro studios they were it is basically hearsay and rumor which is IMO not admissible as technical advice to a n00b on the list Feel free to contact any of these places: * www.omegastudios.com * www.cuerecording.com * www.hitandrunrecording.com If you like, I can also get you a list of places I've worked at while touring with a couple of the metal bands I know. for the past ten years I've worked internationally with hundreds of laptop musicians and VJ's I've worked with CCRMA, STEIM, CREATE, CNMAT, Berklee College of Music, MIT Press and dozens of digital media computer music institutions in Europe as well and believe me they ALL backup their systems and data Sure they do. I pointed out that it has never been my experience that an *app* was used for this. so I might not be an pro IT guy such as yourself Ha! If you only knew. ;) but I do know something about computers in the service of making music and I feel that my own experience with Ubuntu since 4.10 is that rescues and backups are something musicians working with Linux must know about -- especially the less technical who come to it because of its FOSS philosophy and open sharing communities GREAT!!! Seriously. *That's* why I suggested the wiki. You complained at length about the state of things so contribute. Don't jump to conclusions about another's motives without asking. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: buy a sound card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 laurent.bellegarde wrote: Hi everyone, I'm writting a book about audio-video editing with free software for a famous editor in France. I'm talking a lot about ubuntu studio. As i'm not a musician, i have few question about for someone who wants to run GNU/Linux for MAO - what's a cheaper price for an amateur sound card ? - what's a good price for a medium sound card ? - What's a good price for a professional sound card ? I am not sure what delineates each category. what's the main difference between a first price sound card and a professionnal one ? I am not sure what the differences are between the categories. These days I am not sure that differentiating between an amateur and professional is even useful in this context. I am not sure where I would place me on that scale, and almost no one knows me as well as I do :) I need too examples of sound card that runs without any trouble or very easily under GNU/Linux, I have heard that the M-Audio Delta series works well. I can personally vouch for the RME 9652 as that is what I have at home. The 9652 worked out of the box under 64Studio and Ubuntu Studio, and that was more than 2 years ago. My current rig has a PCI 9652, an RME ADI-8 DS and an Alesis ADAT (which acts as an analogue to digital converter for the 9652). This gives me 16 simultaneous inputs. You can have 3 of the 9652s in a given system so this solution scales beyond medium use. for beginners (and cheaper) : Some of the cheaper M-Audio stuff. Of course onboard sound will probably work well enough. It really depends on what one hopes to accomplish. for medium use, semi-pro : for professionnal use : I would lump the last two categories together. IMO there is nothing to be gained by distinguishing between them. Instead of a scale with amateur to pro, how about just price ranges. Leave the choice up to the end user. I would not consider myself a pro, but the quality of the 9652 and the ADI-8 DS was worth it to me. Hth, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJhztowRXgH3rKGfMRAjK5AJ99ab70BYO6KJl8tNk3j8+O8FzZgwCfetB9 +8L9qLGcOzDc8Wb5/039Qk0= =X9ns -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM, kirko birilli whyshen...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers shen What a way to introduce yourself... -- Christopher Stamper Email: christopherstam...@gmail.com Web: http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg gTalk: http://tinyurl.com/6e359r Skype: cdstamper -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: buy a sound card
Gustin Johnson wrote: laurent.bellegarde wrote: for medium use, semi-pro : for professionnal use : I would lump the last two categories together. IMO there is nothing to be gained by distinguishing between them. I'm inclined to agree actually. Or maybe just take if from a recording card perspective? (because some cards/chipsets are only good for playback) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Jaunty status so far.
So as of now there's only slight changes. New art has been uploaded. (though still not final) Synfig removed because it was causing a build issue with the disks. -RT is coming along better than before but there's constant developments there. Some people reported good audio results with .28-generic. http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-tuning/2009-February/date.html So, we'll see how things go. 2 new packages we're looking to get in are rtirq and Pencil (vector animation app). We've also dropped Specimen in favor of FontMatrix. It's still unclear as to whether or not we'll be going to JACK 2. Some more notes can be seen here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meeting110109 -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
What would you change in the audio app list?
We've done minor changes to the list of audio applications since Feisty. But over 2 years things can pop up that we miss. So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or replacements for old stand-bys out there? And this is just a chat about the current applications being included in -audio. (we're aware of the underlying technical issues) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
Cory, not sure about new apps in, but it may be worth removing libgig, libigig-dev, gigedit, and gigtools. You might want to talk to the LSampler team about this first because it's their gig, but as we build LS from source anyway, the versions already included in UB don't match the source version, and create problems when compiling, particularly as debs. Not a big request, but still a challenge for users that comes up on a regular basis. Alex. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: We've done minor changes to the list of audio applications since Feisty. But over 2 years things can pop up that we miss. So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or replacements for old stand-bys out there? And this is just a chat about the current applications being included in -audio. (we're aware of the underlying technical issues) -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jaunty status so far.
So as of now there's only slight changes. New art has been uploaded. (though still not final) Synfig removed because it was causing a build issue with the disks. -RT is coming along better than before but there's constant developments there. Some people reported good audio results with .28-generic. http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-tuning/2009-February/date.html So, we'll see how things go. 2 new packages we're looking to get in are rtirq and Pencil (vector animation app). We've also dropped Specimen in favor of FontMatrix. It's still unclear as to whether or not we'll be going to JACK 2. Some more notes can be seen here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meeting110109 -Cory K. Has there been anything said about having btrfs as an install option? Just curious. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Learning Linux
I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? I have read Wikipedia's entry, and have learned a lot from this list, but I'd like to get fully up to speed. I have some programming/Unix background, but don't do it for a living. Thanks, ld -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Hello, On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? Well, just download the Ubuntu CD and try it out. It is so easy to use and install, that you don't need a book to do that. I would bet that these days one needs more mouse clicks and trouble shooting in installing Windows. The only thing that beats Ubuntu installation in easiness is installing the MacOSX. But the difference is quite thin nowadays. Ubuntu is really easy to install and work on. You don't need to compile kernels and do programming yourself to use the Ubuntu. Linux used to be like that a long time ago, but those times are long gone. There was long a discussion if Linux is ready for desktop use, and the time it has been ready has been now already couple of years and Ubuntu is getting on each release better and better. The 6 month release cycle is very rapid and things change for better at amazing rate. Best Regards, Karoliina Salminen (running couple of Ubuntu computers) -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Larry David wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? I have read Wikipedia's entry, and have learned a lot from this list, but I'd like to get fully up to speed. I have some programming/Unix background, but don't do it for a living. Thanks, ld http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index.html -- Rockiger Rober-Mayer Str. 5 60325 Frankfurt am Main Tel +49 (0)178 232 848 1 Fax +49 (0)69 798 289 82 Bio: https://www.xing.com/profile/Marco_Laspe Get in touch: http://www.rockiger.com/blog Follow us: http://twitter.com/Rockiger The computer is simply an instrument whose music is ideas. - Alan Kay -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Jaunty status so far.
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: So as of now there's only slight changes. New art has been uploaded. (though still not final) Synfig removed because it was causing a build issue with the disks. -RT is coming along better than before but there's constant developments there. Some people reported good audio results with .28-generic. http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-tuning/2009-February/date.html So, we'll see how things go. 2 new packages we're looking to get in are rtirq and Pencil (vector animation app). We've also dropped Specimen in favor of FontMatrix. It's still unclear as to whether or not we'll be going to JACK 2. Some more notes can be seen here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meeting110109 One thing that would be nice to have, if it's at all feasible, is qgtkstyle [1]. It's definitely not a must-have package, but since we use a few qt4 packages in a gnome environment, this would make the desktop look a lot more polished. It's been working fine for me for quite some time. There are packages in my ppa, if anyone feels like trying. ffado, on the other hand, is a must-have ;-) And I'm curious on how things are going with jack-in-main. And I've been wondering whether it would be a good idea to maintain a 2.6.26-rt kernel, particularly if .28 doesn't turn out too well after all. We could be joining efforts with 64studio, for example, when it comes to realtime kernel packaging and maintaining. Judging from one thread I stumbled into [3], it seems they're aiming for a 2.6.26 kernel. Regards, Khash. [1] http://code.google.com/p/qgtkstyle/ [2] http://www.64studio.com/node/904 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Work/workflow examples?
First let me say thank you to everyone who has replied so helpfully to my questioning posts so far. In looking back at them I notice that I tend to put lots of questions or comments in a single post, and that (not surprisingly) some of them go by without any response. So I will try to be more specific and brief. :^) I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks. Audio examples/clips would be great. Or just basic descriptions. For example right now I use Digital Performer to do multitrack recording in a variety of styles - rock, classical, folk, electronic - using digital and analog synths, electric bass/gtr, and a variety of acoustic instruments. My system can't handle softsynths and multitracking simultaneously, but I would like to get into them. I use a modest amount of FX plugins, but would like to use them more too. I'd love to hear similar descriptions of people's work/workflow in UBS - the more details the better, but even a brief summary would be helpful. Thanks, ld -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Stamper wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Karoliina Salminen karoliina.t.salmi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? What do you mean by UBS? A typo? Sorry, I though UBS was an acronym for Ubuntu Studio - at least I think I've seen it used that way. In any case, that's what I meant. ld -- Christopher Stamper Email: christopherstam...@gmail.com Web: http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg gTalk: http://tinyurl.com/6e359r Skype: cdstamper -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Larry David wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Stamper wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? What do you mean by UBS? A typo? Sorry, I though UBS was an acronym for Ubuntu Studio - at least I think I've seen it used that way. In any case, that's what I meant. It is, and Christopher shoulda easily figured that out. ;) I just think he wants to be a pain sometimes. :P -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: Larry David wrote: On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Stamper wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? What do you mean by UBS? A typo? Sorry, I though UBS was an acronym for Ubuntu Studio - at least I think I've seen it used that way. In any case, that's what I meant. It is, and Christopher shoulda easily figured that out. ;) I just think he wants to be a pain sometimes. :P Wrong. I honestly didn't know. And google didn't help either. However, it did come across my mind, after I had hit send... For myself, I learned 'UBS' by installing it and just spending some time playing around. It really helps to set some time aside to mess around. -- Christopher Stamper Email: christopherstam...@gmail.com Web: http://tinyurl.com/2ooncg gTalk: http://tinyurl.com/6e359r Skype: cdstamper -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. ld On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Karoliina Salminen wrote: Hello, On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? Well, just download the Ubuntu CD and try it out. It is so easy to use and install, that you don't need a book to do that. I would bet that these days one needs more mouse clicks and trouble shooting in installing Windows. The only thing that beats Ubuntu installation in easiness is installing the MacOSX. But the difference is quite thin nowadays. Ubuntu is really easy to install and work on. You don't need to compile kernels and do programming yourself to use the Ubuntu. Linux used to be like that a long time ago, but those times are long gone. There was long a discussion if Linux is ready for desktop use, and the time it has been ready has been now already couple of years and Ubuntu is getting on each release better and better. The 6 month release cycle is very rapid and things change for better at amazing rate. Best Regards, Karoliina Salminen (running couple of Ubuntu computers) -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Work/workflow examples?
Larry David wrote: I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks. Audio examples/clips would be great. Or just basic descriptions. You can hear a few of my songs on my website : http://www.sandgreen.dk/index.php?side=musik_sandsound And I have posted my setup here : http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=18t=558 /Sandie -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html This may be useful, Alex. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.netwrote: Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. ld On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:15 PM, Karoliina Salminen wrote: Hello, On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Larry David larrydavi...@comcast.net wrote: I hope this isn't too noobish for the list - can anyone recommend a book or a website to learn Linux - enough to be comfortable installing and troubleshooting UBS? Well, just download the Ubuntu CD and try it out. It is so easy to use and install, that you don't need a book to do that. I would bet that these days one needs more mouse clicks and trouble shooting in installing Windows. The only thing that beats Ubuntu installation in easiness is installing the MacOSX. But the difference is quite thin nowadays. Ubuntu is really easy to install and work on. You don't need to compile kernels and do programming yourself to use the Ubuntu. Linux used to be like that a long time ago, but those times are long gone. There was long a discussion if Linux is ready for desktop use, and the time it has been ready has been now already couple of years and Ubuntu is getting on each release better and better. The 6 month release cycle is very rapid and things change for better at amazing rate. Best Regards, Karoliina Salminen (running couple of Ubuntu computers) -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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kirko birilli wrote: hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers shen Well things can get nuts sometimes. That's a community. The good, bad and the ugly. Welcome. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: PPA report questions
Original Message: - From: Khashayar Naderehvandi khashayar.li...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:21:19 +0100 To: sue...@empire.net, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: PPA report questions On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 12:57 PM, sue...@empire.net sue...@empire.net wrote: I have upgraded UBS hardy via Khashayar's PPA in launchpad. I chose all the alsa stuff, ardour, audacity, ffado, and pulse. So far it looks like everything is functioning and nothing broken. That's good to hear. Although, keep in mind that my PPA is not supported by the ubuntustudio team, and it's really an on-your-own-risk venture you're undertaking. The ppa has had little to no testing (I'm gonna keep on reminding everyone about this ;-)). Understood, probably no more risk (maybe less) than attempting to build them from source myself... :-) Questions though: - The guys over on Jack irc say alsa_in and alsa_out should be with the latest Jack. I can't find them... I'm not sure about this. To minimize the risk of having broken packages, I try to follow the packaging done in the current development release of Ubuntu, as far as possible. That means that the jack packages in the hardy section of my ppa basically are built the same way jack in jaunty is, with additional libffado support. Do you know if there are additional dependencies needed to get alsa_in and alsa_out? I might consider adding them to the package. I originally was going to build it from source, and was told to get it to build alsa_in/out I needed the libsamplerate. But, I don't think that answers your question... - What do I need to install to get Audacity to use Jack. Again, I was led to believe it came with the latest Audacity. Audacity should work with jack through portaudio. Make sure jackd is running before you fire up audacity. At least it works here. Ok, I'll have a try, I was looking for an output plugin in Audacity pref's called jack. I'll check if I have a portaudio selection. mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
choppy wav files?
Anybody have any thoughts on why Audacious playing a wav file with pulse or jack is choppy but fine with alsa? Same file converted to mp3 plays fine with alsa, jack, or pulse. Thanks, Mac mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: wineasio
Gustin Johnson wrote: 1) On line 69 of wineasioinstaller, wget is used but you've made no attempt to install wget on line 57 - that's not really a question, just a correction. Doesnt Ubuntustudio come with wget ? When writing a program, it is a good habit to get into to assume nothing :) I'll add wget to the apt-get line, just to be on the safe side :-) 2) What license is your program under? There's no copyright information anywhere in the tarball. I havent yet looked into all the quirks about license, but it's free to use and modify, so I gues that makes it GPL ? but as you pointed out, the asio header from Steinberg is another story. The licence is whatever you specify. There is no default licence. Look at the fsf site for more info: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/ Is it ok to use GPLv2 if the program downloads and install a binary ? btw. The source is avaiable to the binary and I'll put a link to it in the program. /Sandie -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry David wrote: Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. Bash Beginners Guide: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/ Once you start it is hard to stop, so this makes for a natural continuation: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/ - From here Python has an excellent online tutorial, that I would recommend if you want to go further: http://www.python.org/doc/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHgjMACgkQwRXgH3rKGfOEDwCgmhti+STdux98KCG5vOjGodf2 2x4AnAwg5445Pb3UvXj6cPwX4eZPF5eM =0+qy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
PPA report questions
I have upgraded UBS hardy via Khashayar's PPA in launchpad. I chose all the alsa stuff, ardour, audacity, ffado, and pulse. So far it looks like everything is functioning and nothing broken. Thanks Khashayar! Questions though: - The guys over on Jack irc say alsa_in and alsa_out should be with the latest Jack. I can't find them... - What do I need to install to get Audacity to use Jack. Again, I was led to believe it came with the latest Audacity. mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: New to list.
It's sad that a list leader willingly participates in the ugly. Luther Cory K. wrote: kirko birilli wrote: hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers shen Well things can get nuts sometimes. That's a community. The good, bad and the ugly. Welcome. -Cory K. -- In Christ, Luther -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Work/workflow examples?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Larry, Larry David schrieb: I would be interested to hear what kind of music work people are doing with UBS, and what software people they use for which tasks. Audio examples/clips would be great. http://lapoc.de/demos/lapoc-sos-ashita-141008.ogg http://lapoc.de/demos/lapoc-sos-ashita-release-demo1.txt This was made with 64Studio (just another Debianish-Audio-Distro) and/but a lot of the percussion and the mixing/mastering was made with UBS. I found out, that for me it is the most prudent way to work with different distros of Linux to get the best of all worlds ;-) My system can't handle softsynths and multitracking simultaneously, ?? Athlon 1200? I run 40+-track sessions simultaneosly with Zynadd or AMS let alone Specimen on a box not worth much more than 150 E on EBay I'd love to hear similar descriptions of people's work/workflow in UBS - the more details the better, but even a brief summary would be helpful. I used to use UBS on a quite puny Laptop (MSI,AMD, 1500RAM, Behringer UControl...) for composing loops with Specimen/Seq24/Qtractor/Rosegarden and the like and for mixing/mastering Stuff in Ardour as of now I do this on Suse111 but hope to return to UBS with 09.04 best regs HZN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHjWIACgkQ1Aecwva1SWPYZgCfVaRce9G7BqSCEDAeGwvQ/ufj fRgAnjz9prPrM813PM5rdrDdjxR4FDyM =3iq0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trools/humans
Yes it was worth posting. I've been a member of this list for barely 2 months and I'm ashamed to say that your exchange with Kim is one of the worst I've ever seen in over 5 years of forum/email list posting. I am a member of 7 different list subject areas with most having multiple sublists. As a leader, you lead by example, either bad or good. Luther Cory K. wrote: Luther wrote: Cory K. wrote: kirko birilli wrote: hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers Well things can get nuts sometimes. That's a community. The good, bad and the ugly. It's sad that a list leader willingly participates in the ugly. It's sad when *anyone* does it. So don't single me out when we're all human and fallible. ;) And really? That was worth posting? Come on :) Lets all get back on topic. ;) -Cory K. -- In Christ, Luther -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trolls/humans
Luther wrote: Yes it was worth posting. I've been a member of this list for barely 2 months and I'm ashamed to say that your exchange with Kim is one of the worst I've ever seen in over 5 years of forum/email list posting. I am a member of 7 different list subject areas with most having multiple sublists. As a leader, you lead by example, *either bad or good.* Exactly. I'm human just like everyone else and will not put myself above others. If you think I should be put on some pedestal, so be it. To be any other way is fake to me. I ain't that guy. The second people start to think they are somehow better than each other is when worse issues arise IMO. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
Hartmut Noack wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote: So, we're asking you guys are there any new apps or replacements for old stand-bys out there? Very very important: LV2-support in Ardour and CALF and Invada Plugins as well as SWH/LV2 - these are revolutionary. The CALF plugins are being looked at now. Also I do not know, why Specimen is not included by default, it is the most reliable/configurable softsampler I ever used on Linux so far. I'm sorry. I shoulda been more specific. GNOME-Specimen the font manager, has been removed. :) Specimen the sampler, I *think* wasn't included because the case was made for another already included app. If you wanna peruse this topic please do. I can't chime in since I don't use synths but I'll let whatever happens in the community decide how this goes. Whatever you guys think. At the other hand I would drop Bristol - I never saw this synth working OK anywhere (ist the same on Fedora and Suse) so I dont think, that it should be included for it only casts frustration upon beginners - it should be available in universe though... And important also: Qtractor and LMMS both are very likely to attract switchers and make major progress. Others please chime in here as well. I gotta also note (didn't really say it in the 1st post) that atm any switches need to be to a app *already* in the repos. If there's something out there that's not currently packaged it will have to be marked for +1. -Cory K. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cory K. schrieb: manager, has been removed. :) Specimen the sampler, I *think* wasn't included because the case was made for another already included app. Well: Specimen does not use any popular /proprietary sample-lib format but its own (loaded WAV-Files organized via a simple XML-file), so it is nice and open and at the other hand quite off-mainstream. But it works flawlessly and very, very stable with jackd so I would strongly opt for it. best regs HZN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHlOcACgkQ1Aecwva1SWOvmACfVz8VxeWdY/Mz6xVEdnlvy11j OUcAn1JviRPB/x+ZOEqPo9KV2bmHdUHV =fC52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hartmut Noack wrote: snip At the other hand I would drop Bristol - I never saw this synth working OK anywhere (ist the same on Fedora and Suse) so I dont think, that it should be included for it only casts frustration upon beginners - it should be available in universe though... I am a big fan of Bristol. I do build it by hand since the packaged version is getting stale. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHmXoACgkQwRXgH3rKGfP/vgCgiZCCcZI+jEz7o4EyCY/iBHSH 0q0An1Yknv/p4ueZ9QipT/Xzfob2zfIB =4bsb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustin Johnson wrote: snip I hope that no one here relays on it as such. It should be obvious that I mean rely and not relay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHmcEACgkQwRXgH3rKGfPieQCgmKha7kbSxiy+yeZ8WFh82OBZ XDEAnAotQgQoxaj8Oo4rSOiSWX75ZYa2 =zEwA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: studio backups
Gustin Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustin Johnson wrote: snip I hope that no one here relays on it as such. It should be obvious that I mean rely and not relay. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHmcEACgkQwRXgH3rKGfPieQCgmKha7kbSxiy+yeZ8WFh82OBZ XDEAnAotQgQoxaj8Oo4rSOiSWX75ZYa2 =zEwA -END PGP SIGNATURE- I don't know if it was already mentioned but using the bootable Gparted cd is pretty good and user friendly. Haig -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Feeding trools/humans
not to beat a dead horse, but just thought I'd say how greatful I am that Ubuntu Studio exists. I find this mailing list informative, and I enjoy hearing what's going on with my favourite distribution behind the scenes. Thanks Cory for your efforts in this project, even if you are only human. Philip Schleihauf p...@adjacentfilms.com On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Luther lut...@gulseth.net wrote: Yes it was worth posting. I've been a member of this list for barely 2 months and I'm ashamed to say that your exchange with Kim is one of the worst I've ever seen in over 5 years of forum/email list posting. I am a member of 7 different list subject areas with most having multiple sublists. As a leader, you lead by example, either bad or good. Luther Cory K. wrote: Luther wrote: Cory K. wrote: kirko birilli wrote: hi guys, that was my very first letter igot via the mailing list.hahaha cheers Well things can get nuts sometimes. That's a community. The good, bad and the ugly. It's sad that a list leader willingly participates in the ugly. It's sad when *anyone* does it. So don't single me out when we're all human and fallible. ;) And really? That was worth posting? Come on :) Lets all get back on topic. ;) -Cory K. -- In Christ, Luther -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Learning Linux
Thanks Gustin, that looks like just the sort of stuff I was looking for. I'll give those a go. ld On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Gustin Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry David wrote: Thanks - I was thinking more of command line stuff I guess. I will probably try to load Ubuntu on my old G3 iMac as an experiment, and I assume I will be able to grok the GUI and use apps, etc. I want to learn lower-level stuff so I can maintain my own system, etc. Bash Beginners Guide: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/ Once you start it is hard to stop, so this makes for a natural continuation: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/ - From here Python has an excellent online tutorial, that I would recommend if you want to go further: http://www.python.org/doc/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHgjMACgkQwRXgH3rKGfOEDwCgmhti+STdux98KCG5vOjGodf2 2x4AnAwg5445Pb3UvXj6cPwX4eZPF5eM =0+qy -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: What would you change in the audio app list?
On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cory K. schrieb: manager, has been removed. :) Specimen the sampler, I *think* wasn't included because the case was made for another already included app. Well: Specimen does not use any popular /proprietary sample-lib format but its own (loaded WAV-Files organized via a simple XML-file), so it is nice and open and at the other hand quite off-mainstream. But it works flawlessly and very, very stable with jackd so I would strongly opt for it. Can it load popular formats, or only samples recorded in Specimen? Loaded WAV files suggests it can read any WAV file, but don't want to assume. FWIW, I think a decent, versatile sampler is a real plus for any DAW. If the audio app list is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList then it looks like sooperlooper is the only sampler (and from the name sounds more like a loop player than a traditional sampler). ld best regs HZN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmHlOcACgkQ1Aecwva1SWOvmACfVz8VxeWdY/Mz6xVEdnlvy11j OUcAn1JviRPB/x+ZOEqPo9KV2bmHdUHV =fC52 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
