Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Glenn Holmer]

On 4/28/20 12:31 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
> On 4/27/20 10:09 AM, eeickme...@ubuntu.com wrote:
>> Hi Glenn,
>>
>>> On 4/23/20 12:45 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
 Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no
 longer supported.
>>>
>>> Can you go into a little more detail on that? Is this a permanent
>>> change? Is Firewire no longer supported by the kernel?
>>
>> It's actually pretty simple. The kernel has a Firewire module in ALSA
>> that conflicts with FFADO.
> 
> Thanks for the reply. All I need to work is dvgrab, which I can run
> under Debian if necessary (and do the editing in Studio).

dvgrab still works for me, so I'm good.

P.S. I didn't see until later that Studio is switching to KDE Plasma.
This is a great idea (says someone who's been using it since 1.0).

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Glenn Holmer]

On 4/27/20 10:09 AM, eeickme...@ubuntu.com wrote:
> Hi Glenn,
> 
>> On 4/23/20 12:45 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
>>> Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no
>>> longer supported.
>> 
>> Can you go into a little more detail on that? Is this a permanent
>> change? Is Firewire no longer supported by the kernel?
>> 
> 
> It's actually pretty simple. The kernel has a Firewire module in ALSA
> that conflicts with FFADO.

Thanks for the reply. All I need to work is dvgrab, which I can run
under Debian if necessary (and do the editing in Studio). It is really
time for me to finish digitizing all my DV videotapes of Javanese
gamelan, dancing, and shadow puppets!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[David King]

On 23/04/2020 18:45, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:


  Libreoffice Impress

One item that has been requested is the inclusion of Libreoffice 
Impress, which was missing in releases past. We now include it by 
default to help those who need it for making presentations.





So glad that you finally recognise that people who want a multimedia 
type OS will often need to do presentations using Impress.


Otherwise one has to resort to installing OpenOffice instead, which I 
did when I used it as a live USB with persistence, as there was no way 
of installing LibreOffice Impress.


I hope the new US will all work well.


David K

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Gerhard Lang]

Sorry if I hurt you. But why do you use silly memes?

Am 28.04.20 um 00:20 schrieb eeickme...@ubuntu.com:

Hi Gerhard,


Hi Erich,

I understand your frustration about firewire management in linux kernels.
But wasn't it good practice in Linux, to keep alive even vintage hardware?

That wasn't my call. We just could not implement the FFADO items in Ubuntu 
Studio Controls.
  

We have to be forward-thinking and not stuck in the past on many

decisions, otherwise we become irrelevant.

Ok, you might have to earn your livelihood, but I think, this is a horrible
statement, please don't reproduce silly coach speek.

Woah woah woah. You think I get PAID to do this?!? I wish. I'm a volunteer just 
like most people doing anything with Ubuntu.






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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[eeickmeyer]

Hi Gerhard,

> 
> Hi Erich,
> 
> I understand your frustration about firewire management in linux kernels.
> But wasn't it good practice in Linux, to keep alive even vintage hardware?

That wasn't my call. We just could not implement the FFADO items in Ubuntu 
Studio Controls.
 
> >>We have to be forward-thinking and not stuck in the past on many
> decisions, otherwise we become irrelevant.
> 
> Ok, you might have to earn your livelihood, but I think, this is a horrible
> statement, please don't reproduce silly coach speek.

Woah woah woah. You think I get PAID to do this?!? I wish. I'm a volunteer just 
like most people doing anything with Ubuntu.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Gerhard Lang]

Hi Erich,

I understand your frustration about firewire management in linux 
kernels. But wasn't it good practice in Linux, to keep alive even 
vintage hardware?



We have to be forward-thinking and not stuck in the past on many decisions, 
otherwise we become irrelevant.


Ok, you might have to earn your livelihood, but I think, this is a 
horrible statement, please don't reproduce silly coach speek.


Ubuntu 2012 was great with my firewire interface, near zero latency.

why not force Alsa and FFado developers into colaboration?

I'll begin to compile kernels again.

By the way, best thanks for your engagement in Ubuntu-Studio

Gerhard


Am 27.04.20 um 17:09 schrieb eeickme...@ubuntu.com:


Hi Glenn,


On 4/23/20 12:45 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no longer
supported.

Can you go into a little more detail on that? Is this a permanent change? Is
Firewire no longer supported by the kernel?


It's actually pretty simple. The kernel has a Firewire module in ALSA that 
conflicts with FFADO. We attempted to make Ubuntu Studio Controls compatible, 
but it proved to be impossible. In order for FFADO to work, one must blacklist 
the ALSA Firewire module in the kernel. This is something one must know how to 
do and be comfortable with doing, we can't do it for you.

Basically, firewire devices are a crapshoot. If you plug it in and it just 
works, then awesome, glad it does. If it doesn't, sorry, but we can't help you 
get it working.

Additionally, Firewire devices are ancient and no longer being manufactured. We 
are not in the business of reviving old hardware; that's not the purpose of 
Ubuntu Studio. So, going forward, we simply aren't making an effort to support 
Firewire devices because that would mean fighting with the kernel, which is not 
something our small team is willing to do.

USB devices and PCI devices are the future going forward, because that's what 
hardware manufacturers are actually producing. We have to be forward-thinking 
and not stuck in the past on many decisions, otherwise we become irrelevant.


Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader
Ubuntu Studio

ubuntustudio.org




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[eeickmeyer]

Hi Glenn,

> On 4/23/20 12:45 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> > Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no longer
> > supported.
> 
> Can you go into a little more detail on that? Is this a permanent change? Is
> Firewire no longer supported by the kernel?
> 

It's actually pretty simple. The kernel has a Firewire module in ALSA that 
conflicts with FFADO. We attempted to make Ubuntu Studio Controls compatible, 
but it proved to be impossible. In order for FFADO to work, one must blacklist 
the ALSA Firewire module in the kernel. This is something one must know how to 
do and be comfortable with doing, we can't do it for you.

Basically, firewire devices are a crapshoot. If you plug it in and it just 
works, then awesome, glad it does. If it doesn't, sorry, but we can't help you 
get it working.

Additionally, Firewire devices are ancient and no longer being manufactured. We 
are not in the business of reviving old hardware; that's not the purpose of 
Ubuntu Studio. So, going forward, we simply aren't making an effort to support 
Firewire devices because that would mean fighting with the kernel, which is not 
something our small team is willing to do.

USB devices and PCI devices are the future going forward, because that's what 
hardware manufacturers are actually producing. We have to be forward-thinking 
and not stuck in the past on many decisions, otherwise we become irrelevant.


Erich Eickmeyer
Project Leader
Ubuntu Studio

ubuntustudio.org



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Glenn Holmer]

On 4/23/20 12:45 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no longer
> supported.

Can you go into a little more detail on that? Is this a permanent
change? Is Firewire no longer supported by the kernel?

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[ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS Released!

[Erich Eickmeyer]

The Ubuntu Studio team is pleased to announce the release of Ubuntu
Studio 20.04, code-named “Focal Fossa”. This marks Ubuntu Studio’s 27th
release. This release is a Long-Term Support release and as such, it is
supported for 3 years (until April 2023).

Since it’s just out, you may experience some issues, so you might want
to wait a bit before upgrading. Please see the release notes
 for a
complete list of changes and known issues.

You can download Ubuntu Studio 20.04 LTS from our download page
.


Upgrading

Please note that those running Ubuntu Studio 19.10 will likely not
receive an upgrade notification right away. This may take anywhere from
a few days to a couple weeks. Since 19.10 reaches End Of Life in July,
please upgrade as soon as possible.

Those running Ubuntu Studio 18.04 can also upgrade, but will likely not
receive any upgrade notification until 20.04.1 is released in July.
Please note that you should purge the Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA prior
to upgrade. Since 18.04 was not an LTS release, please upgrade as soon
as possible.

Full upgrade instructions are found on the Ubuntu Wiki.



New This Release


  MyPaint Returns!

With the release of version 2.0 of MyPaint, the library conflict with
GIMP no longer exists. As such, MyPaint has retruned to our default
installation. This is a welcome re-inclusion for our graphics design
community, and has been a long-requested feature. MyPaint, welcome back!


  AVLDrums

Available as an LV2 plugin, AVLDrums is now included with the default
installation of Ubuntu Studio. AVLDrums is a drumkit plugin which can be
used in conjunction with MIDI in any DAW that supports LV2 plugins, such
as Ardour.


  Ubuntu Studio Controls

Our flagship audio control application, Ubuntu Studio Controls, got a
large update this release. Among the new changes:

  * Audio setup tab is split into three tabs: Jack Master Settings,
Extra Devices, Pulse Bridging
  * Due to kernel compatibility reasons, Firewire devices are no longer
supported. Consider upgrading to a modern USB or PCIe audio interface.
  * PulseAudio bridges can now be named by the user


  Libreoffice Impress

One item that has been requested is the inclusion of Libreoffice
Impress, which was missing in releases past. We now include it by
default to help those who need it for making presentations.


  Other Changes

Most of this release is evolutionary on top of 19.10 rather than
revolutionary. As such, most of the applications contained are simply
upgraded versions. Details on key packages can be found in the release
notes.

We have followed Xubuntu’s lead on a few desktop packages and replaced
them. GNOME Calculator has been replaced with MATE Calculator,
FileRoller has been replaced with Engrampa, and Evince has been replaced
with Atril.

Unfortunately, we did have to say goodbye to some applications that
people rely on due to library incompatibilities. Most notably, Python 2
has reached End-Of-Life, and many packages that depend on Python 2
simply have not been upgraded to Python 3. Those packages are as follows:

  * DisplayCAL
  o The author needs to upgrade this package to Python 3. Once it’s
upgraded, we will include it in the Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA.
  * Patchage
  o The author has already patched this for Python 3, but relies on
a newer version of another library not yet included in Ubuntu.
We may be able to add this package and its library to the Ubuntu
Studio Backports PPA at a later date.
  o In the meantime, use the Patchbay functionality in Carla.
  * GMidiMonitor
  o This project appears to be dead upstream and relies on Python 2.
  o We have replaced it with midisnoop, which is functionally
equivallent.

For a more complete list of changes, please see the release notes.


Backports PPA

Packages already exist in the Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA for 20.04 for
items that could not make it into the official Ubuntu repositories in
time for release. These items include:

  * dragonfly-reverb 3.0.0
  * lsp-plugins 1.1.19

The above have also been backported to 19.10 and 18.04, along with many
packages that did make it to the official Ubuntu repositories. However,
as of today, the packages for 18.04 in the backports PPA will be frozen.
If 18.04 users wish to receive further updates, please upgrade to 20.04
as soon as possible.

Instructions for enabling the Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA

  * Automatic method:
  o Open Ubuntu Studio Installer
  o Click “Enable Backports”
  * Manual method:
  o Follow these instructions



The Future of Ubuntu Studio


  Desktop Environment

Unlike other flavors of Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio isn’t based on its desktop
environmen