Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Set Hallström]

Thanks for that script Ralf!

I use a similar one but it's far less advanced. As an answer to the hole
"cloud" backup thing: do not underestimate the power beheld in your old
machines: they make perfect little servers to back things up on within your
LAN using scp. :)

[satire_kopimist]
If like me, any of you live in a wealthy country, home to consuming
fruitzombies, with enough "environmental consciousness" to separate
electronic waste from organic trash,  i advise you to regularly check the
garbage deposit of your (or anyone else's) building for abandoned computers
that suits this task perfectly.[/satire_kopimist]

*Set


On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:38 PM, leo  wrote:

> Oh man, you people are awesome!! I am more and more loving this Linux
> (e.g., Ubuntu) world.
>
>  I'm all fired up this morning (I even haven't performed my morning
> meditation yet) to look
> into and implement your wonderful ideas. Back in my Windows days I
> sometimes wrote simple batch files; now here I am again, willing to learn
> in this case the fine art of scripting in Linux. This is groovy.
>
>  And Mr. Ralf, I like your satire. I laughed and squirted tears.
> ~Leo
>
> "The darker the night, the easier to see the stars."
>
>
>
>   On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:59 AM, Ralf Mardorf <
> ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>  On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 09:29 +0100, Angel de Vicente wrote:
> > leo  writes:
> > > Right now I am trying to figure out the best regimen for what exactly,
> and how, to make backups.
> > > I have a handful of 4GB and 32GB SanDisk thumbdrives, and my 2 SATA
> hard drives, and Ubuntu One, as well as DropBox.
> > http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php
>
> From another installed Linux I run a script and copy the complete
> install to a compressed tar archive to an external USB HDD. I also made
> backups of the drives MBRs. If you use wildcards take care about
> globbing.
>
> You could copy installs and data from your SATA 1 to your SATA 2 and
> vice versa, but this isn't a backup by definition. A backups has to be
> done to an external device. Thumbdrives aren't save backup medias.
>
> [satire]
> I wouldn't use a cloud to store any private data. Sure the NSA has got
> backups of what is stored by dropbox, so theoretically if your drives
> should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers should fail, the NSA
> could provide a backup for you, but in reality they don't give it to
> you. Remember the journalist who called the NSA and ask them to sent him
> the stored mail he deleted "by accident" on his machine. You might say,
> but there are not only backups of clouds available by the NSA, they are
> also available by different mafias, sure, but likely you don't have a
> phone number to call them and ask them to help you, if if your drives
> should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers too.
> [/satire]
>
>
> #!/bin/bash
> # bash bak_q_arch
>
> BACKUP_DIR_Q="/media/u1.linux/2013-Oct"
> BACKUP_DIR_A="/media/data2/2013-Oct"
>
> function stopwatch_start
> {
>   STARTED=$(date +%s)
>   if [ "$A_STARTED" = "" ] ; then
> A_STARTED=$STARTED
> echo ; echo -n "$BACKUP backup started at "; date -d @$STARTED
>   else
> echo "$BACKUP backup starting now."
>
>   fi
>
> }
>
> function stopwatch_stop
> {
>   DONE=$(date +%s)
>   ((MIN=(DONE-STARTED)/60)) ; ((SEC=(DONE-STARTED)%60))
>   for ((i=1; i<=$SPACE; i++)) ; do echo -n " " ; done
>   echo -n "  done at "; date -d @$DONE
>   printf "attended time: %3d:%02d\n" $MIN $SEC ; echo
> }
>
> cpufreq-set -g ondemand
> mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_Q; #mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_A
> clear
> echo "Mount /media/u1.linux  Backup partition"
> #echo "  /media/data2  Backup partition 2 for MBRs"
> #echo "  /media/q  Ubuntu Quantal"
> echo "  /media/archlinux  Arch Linux including mails"
> #echo "  /media/archlinux  Arch Linux /home including mails"
> echo "and press enter to continue."
> read any_pushed_key
>
> BACKUP_NAME_ADD=$(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S")
> A_STARTED=""
> #BACKUP="Ubuntu Quantal"
> #SPACE=${#BACKUP}
> #cd /media/q
> #stopwatch_start
> #tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/ubuntu_q_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz *
> #stopwatch_stop
>
> #BACKUP="MBRs"
> #SPACE=${#BACKUP}
> #stopwatch_start
> #cd $BACKUP_DIR_A
> #dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #cd $BACKUP_DIR_Q
> #dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
> #stopwatch_stop
>
> BACKUP="Arch Linux"
> SPACE=${#BACKUP}
> cd /media/archlinux
> stopwatch_start
> tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz * .chuser
> #cp -p home/rocketmouse/winOS/matrix-1000-0.13.10.08-1i.txt
> $BACKUP_DIR_Q
> stopwatch_stop
>
> #BACKUP="Arch Linux .chuser"
> #stopwatch_start
> #tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.chu.tar.gz 

Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[leo]

Oh man, you people are awesome!! I am more and more loving this Linux (e.g., 
Ubuntu) world.

 I'm all fired up this morning (I even haven't performed my morning meditation 
yet) to look
into and implement your wonderful ideas. Back in my Windows days I sometimes 
wrote simple batch files; now here I am again, willing to learn in this case 
the fine art of scripting in Linux. This is groovy.

 And Mr. Ralf, I like your satire. I laughed and squirted tears.
~Leo

"The darker the night, the easier to see the stars."





On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:59 AM, Ralf Mardorf  
wrote:
 
On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 09:29 +0100, Angel de Vicente wrote:
> leo  writes:
> > Right now I am trying to figure out the best regimen for what exactly, and 
> > how, to make backups.
> > I have a handful of 4GB and 32GB SanDisk thumbdrives, and my 2 SATA hard 
> > drives, and Ubuntu One, as well as DropBox.
> http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php

From another installed Linux I run a script and copy the complete
install to a compressed tar archive to an external USB HDD. I also made
backups of the drives MBRs. If you use wildcards take care about
globbing.

You could copy installs and data from your SATA 1 to your SATA 2 and
vice versa, but this isn't a backup by definition. A backups has to be
done to an external device. Thumbdrives aren't save backup medias.

[satire]
I wouldn't use a cloud to store any private data. Sure the NSA has got
backups of what is stored by dropbox, so theoretically if your drives
should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers should fail, the NSA
could provide a backup for you, but in reality they don't give it to
you. Remember the journalist who called the NSA and ask them to sent him
the stored mail he deleted "by accident" on his machine. You might say,
but there are not only backups of clouds available by the NSA, they are
also available by different mafias, sure, but likely you don't have a
phone number to call them and ask them to help you, if if your drives
should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers too.
[/satire]


#!/bin/bash
# bash bak_q_arch

BACKUP_DIR_Q="/media/u1.linux/2013-Oct"
BACKUP_DIR_A="/media/data2/2013-Oct"

function stopwatch_start
{
  STARTED=$(date +%s)
  if [ "$A_STARTED" = "" ] ; then
    A_STARTED=$STARTED
    echo ; echo -n "$BACKUP backup started at "; date -d @$STARTED
  else
    echo "$BACKUP backup starting now."

  fi
}

function stopwatch_stop
{
  DONE=$(date +%s)
  ((MIN=(DONE-STARTED)/60)) ; ((SEC=(DONE-STARTED)%60))
  for ((i=1; i<=$SPACE; i++)) ; do echo -n " " ; done
  echo -n "           done at "; date -d @$DONE
  printf "attended time: %3d:%02d\n" $MIN $SEC ; echo
}

cpufreq-set -g ondemand
mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_Q; #mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_A
clear
echo "Mount /media/u1.linux   Backup partition"
#echo "      /media/data2      Backup partition 2 for MBRs"
#echo "      /media/q          Ubuntu Quantal"
echo "      /media/archlinux  Arch Linux including mails"
#echo "      /media/archlinux  Arch Linux /home including mails"
echo "and press enter to continue."
read any_pushed_key

BACKUP_NAME_ADD=$(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S")
A_STARTED=""
#BACKUP="Ubuntu Quantal"
#SPACE=${#BACKUP}
#cd /media/q
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/ubuntu_q_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz *
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="MBRs"
#SPACE=${#BACKUP}
#stopwatch_start
#cd $BACKUP_DIR_A
#dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#cd $BACKUP_DIR_Q
#dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#stopwatch_stop

BACKUP="Arch Linux"
SPACE=${#BACKUP}
cd /media/archlinux
stopwatch_start
tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz * .chuser
#cp -p home/rocketmouse/winOS/matrix-1000-0.13.10.08-1i.txt
$BACKUP_DIR_Q
stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux .chuser"
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.chu.tar.gz .chuser
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux /home excluding vdis"
#cd /media/archlinux/home
#stopwatch_start
#tar --exclude=winOS.vdi --exclude=systemd.vdi -czf
$BACKUP_DIR_Q/arch_home_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz *
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="start-session"
#stopwatch_start
#cp -p /media/music/quantal/02song.a/start-session start-session_
$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux winOS.vdi"
#cd /media/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/VirtualBox\ VMs/winOS
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.osv.tar.gz winOS.vdi
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux systemd.vdi"
#cd /media/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/VirtualBox\ VMs/systemd
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.syv.tar.gz systemd.vdi
#stopwatch_stop

((MIN=(DONE-A_STARTED)/60)) ; ((SEC=(DONE-A_STARTED)%60))
echo ; echo -n "First backup started at "; date -d @$A_STARTED
echo -n        "

Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Tue, 2013-10-22 at 09:29 +0100, Angel de Vicente wrote:
> leo  writes:
> > Right now I am trying to figure out the best regimen for what exactly, and 
> > how, to make backups.
> > I have a handful of 4GB and 32GB SanDisk thumbdrives, and my 2 SATA hard 
> > drives, and Ubuntu One, as well as DropBox.
> http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php

>From another installed Linux I run a script and copy the complete
install to a compressed tar archive to an external USB HDD. I also made
backups of the drives MBRs. If you use wildcards take care about
globbing.

You could copy installs and data from your SATA 1 to your SATA 2 and
vice versa, but this isn't a backup by definition. A backups has to be
done to an external device. Thumbdrives aren't save backup medias.

[satire]
I wouldn't use a cloud to store any private data. Sure the NSA has got
backups of what is stored by dropbox, so theoretically if your drives
should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers should fail, the NSA
could provide a backup for you, but in reality they don't give it to
you. Remember the journalist who called the NSA and ask them to sent him
the stored mail he deleted "by accident" on his machine. You might say,
but there are not only backups of clouds available by the NSA, they are
also available by different mafias, sure, but likely you don't have a
phone number to call them and ask them to help you, if if your drives
should fail and the drives of the dopbox servers too.
[/satire]


#!/bin/bash
# bash bak_q_arch

BACKUP_DIR_Q="/media/u1.linux/2013-Oct"
BACKUP_DIR_A="/media/data2/2013-Oct"

function stopwatch_start
{
  STARTED=$(date +%s)
  if [ "$A_STARTED" = "" ] ; then
A_STARTED=$STARTED
echo ; echo -n "$BACKUP backup started at "; date -d @$STARTED
  else
echo "$BACKUP backup starting now."
  fi
}

function stopwatch_stop
{
  DONE=$(date +%s)
  ((MIN=(DONE-STARTED)/60)) ; ((SEC=(DONE-STARTED)%60))
  for ((i=1; i<=$SPACE; i++)) ; do echo -n " " ; done
  echo -n "   done at "; date -d @$DONE
  printf "attended time: %3d:%02d\n" $MIN $SEC ; echo
}

cpufreq-set -g ondemand
mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_Q; #mkdir -p $BACKUP_DIR_A
clear
echo "Mount /media/u1.linux   Backup partition"
#echo "  /media/data2  Backup partition 2 for MBRs"
#echo "  /media/q  Ubuntu Quantal"
echo "  /media/archlinux  Arch Linux including mails"
#echo "  /media/archlinux  Arch Linux /home including mails"
echo "and press enter to continue."
read any_pushed_key

BACKUP_NAME_ADD=$(date "+%Y%m%d_%H%M%S")
A_STARTED=""
#BACKUP="Ubuntu Quantal"
#SPACE=${#BACKUP}
#cd /media/q
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/ubuntu_q_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz *
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="MBRs"
#SPACE=${#BACKUP}
#stopwatch_start
#cd $BACKUP_DIR_A
#dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#cd $BACKUP_DIR_Q
#dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR_sda-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdb of=MBR_sdb-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#dd if=/dev/sdc of=MBR_sdc-$BACKUP_NAME_ADD bs=512 count=1
#stopwatch_stop

BACKUP="Arch Linux"
SPACE=${#BACKUP}
cd /media/archlinux
stopwatch_start
tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz * .chuser
#cp -p home/rocketmouse/winOS/matrix-1000-0.13.10.08-1i.txt
$BACKUP_DIR_Q
stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux .chuser"
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.chu.tar.gz .chuser
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux /home excluding vdis"
#cd /media/archlinux/home
#stopwatch_start
#tar --exclude=winOS.vdi --exclude=systemd.vdi -czf
$BACKUP_DIR_Q/arch_home_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak.tar.gz *
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="start-session"
#stopwatch_start
#cp -p /media/music/quantal/02song.a/start-session start-session_
$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.bak
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux winOS.vdi"
#cd /media/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/VirtualBox\ VMs/winOS
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.osv.tar.gz winOS.vdi
#stopwatch_stop

#BACKUP="Arch Linux systemd.vdi"
#cd /media/archlinux/home/rocketmouse/VirtualBox\ VMs/systemd
#stopwatch_start
#tar czf $BACKUP_DIR_Q/archlinux_$BACKUP_NAME_ADD.syv.tar.gz systemd.vdi
#stopwatch_stop

((MIN=(DONE-A_STARTED)/60)) ; ((SEC=(DONE-A_STARTED)%60))
echo ; echo -n "First backup started at "; date -d @$A_STARTED
echo -n"Last  backupdone at "; date -d @$DONE
printf "attended time for all backups: %3d:%02d\n" $MIN $SEC ; echo

exit 0


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Angel de Vicente]

Hi,

leo  writes:
> Right now I am trying to figure out the best regimen for what exactly, and 
> how, to make backups.
> I have a handful of 4GB and 32GB SanDisk thumbdrives, and my 2 SATA hard 
> drives, and Ubuntu One, as well as DropBox.

If it can be of any help, my regular procedure if I need a backup when doing a 
major
upgrade (or a reinstallation) is to use ClonezillaLive
(http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php). Basically you can create a
clone of your hard disk, then you are safe to upgrade, reinstall,
whatever, and you always have the clone that will restore your hard disk
to exactly the same state it had before cloning it. A wonderful
time-saver, and really ease to use. 

I actually create clones of my work PCs this way, creating a new clone
every month or so, apart from regular daily incremental backups of data,
so that if updates of software start messing up my computer I can always
go back to a previous state, and then replace the data (work documents,
etc.) with the daily incremental backups.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[leo]

I only have two SATA 300GB hard drives, each with it's own distro. I feel more
at ease with the idea of fresh LTS type installs instead of major upgrades, 
e.g., from 13.04 
to 13.10.
Once I can afford another hd, where I have lots of room for partitions, various 
distros, and
especially for backups, then I feel I can use one of the drives dedicated for 
experimentation.

Right now I am trying to figure out the best regimen for what exactly, and how, 
to make backups.
I have a handful of 4GB and 32GB SanDisk thumbdrives, and my 2 SATA hard 
drives, and Ubuntu One, as well as DropBox.

My main works of concern involve my music (re Ardour 3.4) and photography (re 
Darktable and Gimp).






On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf  
wrote:
 
On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 12:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> If nobody knows, why not simply making an upgrade and see what happens.
> Before upgrading there anyway is the need to make a backup, since an
> upgrade, especially from one version to another
                                distro release
 to another ;)


> , always could cause
> serious issues. If the upgrade should fail and/or touches Ardour, the OP
> could restore the old stable Ubuntu Studio from the backup.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 12:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> If nobody knows, why not simply making an upgrade and see what happens.
> Before upgrading there anyway is the need to make a backup, since an
> upgrade, especially from one version to another
    distro release to another ;)

> , always could cause
> serious issues. If the upgrade should fail and/or touches Ardour, the OP
> could restore the old stable Ubuntu Studio from the backup.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 12:46 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote:
> I am not sure this could be of any help in your case, but after the
> upgrade, my old ardour2 was still present on my system and fully
> operational.
> 
> Set
> 
> 
> On 2013-10-18 07:18, leo wrote:
> > Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility
> > purposes, and also Ardour
> > 3 for audio production."
> > 
> > Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already
> > Ardour 3.4 (which I frefer over Ardour 3)?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:33 PM, Jimmy Sjölund 
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it
> > passed without any issues. 
> > 
> > /Jimmy
> > 
> > On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  > > wrote:
> > 
> >> The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond
> >> authentication.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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If nobody knows, why not simply making an upgrade and see what happens.
Before upgrading there anyway is the need to make a backup, since an
upgrade, especially from one version to another, always could cause
serious issues. If the upgrade should fail and/or touches Ardour, the OP
could restore the old stable Ubuntu Studio from the backup.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Set Hallstrom]

I am not sure this could be of any help in your case, but after the
upgrade, my old ardour2 was still present on my system and fully
operational.

Set


On 2013-10-18 07:18, leo wrote:
> Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility
> purposes, and also Ardour
> 3 for audio production."
> 
> Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already
> Ardour 3.4 (which I frefer over Ardour 3)?
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:33 PM, Jimmy Sjölund 
> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it
> passed without any issues. 
> 
> /Jimmy
> 
> On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  > wrote:
> 
>> The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond
>> authentication.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2013-10-20 at 11:46 +0300, Hajanirina Jean Erband Rakotomanga
wrote:
> I've finished for update Ubuntustudio 13.04 but I can't upgrade
> directly on line to 13.10. I don't know what is the problem. Can you
> help me?

Most people on this list don't own a crystal ball, so posting more
information, e.g. messages you get, when doing it in a terminal wuld be
useful.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Hajanirina Jean Erband Rakotomanga]

I've finished for update Ubuntustudio 13.04 but I can't upgrade directly on
line to 13.10. I don't know what is the problem. Can you help me?

Regards


2013/10/18 Joseph Ronne 

> Dell Dimension 9100 4gz 4G mem 250G ssd nvidia 2 displays
>
> Starting update w -d worked for 13.04 to 13.10 64 bit
> xfce-notes is stuck and when forced to leave generates an error .. Session
> and Startup does not allow removal..2 reports have been sent
> everything else appears to work ..
> very nice .. thankyou
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Joseph Ronne]

Dell Dimension 9100 4gz 4G mem 250G ssd nvidia 2 displays

Starting update w -d worked for 13.04 to 13.10 64 bit
xfce-notes is stuck and when forced to leave generates an error .. Session
and Startup does not allow removal..2 reports have been sent
everything else appears to work ..
very nice .. thankyou
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 11:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 22:18 -0700, leo wrote:
> > Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility
> > purposes, and also Ardour
> > 3 for audio production."
> > 
> > Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already
> > Ardour 3.4 (which I frefer over Ardour 3)?
> 
> Lock the package with Synaptic and/or hold it with apt and don't forget
> to backup your current Ubuntu Studio, before you update.

Does the updater thingy take care of a "lock" or "hold" by Synaptic,
resp. apt?



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Pete Wright]

Kudos to Ho and the rest of the crew!
I used the update in the ordinary way and everything works just fine, which
is a very big deal because "foolproof" is the hardest thing to achieve, and
that is the thing I am the testbed for.
grins
Pete


On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Rick Green  wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> 32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it
>> passed without any issues.
>>
>> /Jimmy
>>
>> On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  wrote:
>>
>>   The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond
>> authentication.
>>
>>   I upgraded a 13.04 AMD_64 installation yesterday using the update
> manager without issues.  I'm playing with applications now.  It doesn't
> seem to recognize my zoom H6 recorder when in multitrack interface mode,
> but its a newly-released device, and I can't say for sure that any earlier
> version did either...
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Rick Green]

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:


Hi,

32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it passed 
without any issues. 

/Jimmy

On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  wrote:

  The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond 
authentication.

 I upgraded a 13.04 AMD_64 installation yesterday using the update manager 
without issues.  I'm playing with applications now.  It doesn't seem to 
recognize my zoom H6 recorder when in multitrack interface mode, but its a 
newly-released device, and I can't say for sure that any earlier version 
did either...


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2013-10-18 at 08:53 +0200, Jimmy Sjölund wrote:
> Though I suppose it will overwrite your already installed Ardour 3.4,
> but I'm not that familiar with upgrades so hopefully someone with more
> experience there will also send a reply.

For same versions of a package within a Ubuntu Studio release it depends
to the name e.g. 3.4.1234-1 vs 3.4.1234-2 or 1:3.4-1234-1 vs
2:3.4-1234-1. I don't now what happens when doing an upgrade for the
Ubuntu Studio version, likely it even would downgrade.

I would "startpage.com"ing (googling) for   ubuntu release upgrade   .



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2013-10-17 at 22:18 -0700, leo wrote:
> Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility
> purposes, and also Ardour
> 3 for audio production."
> 
> Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already
> Ardour 3.4 (which I frefer over Ardour 3)?

Lock the package with Synaptic and/or hold it with apt and don't forget
to backup your current Ubuntu Studio, before you update.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Jimmy Sjölund]

On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:18 AM, leo  wrote:

> Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility
> purposes, and also Ardour
> 3 for audio production."
>
> Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already Ardour
> 3.4 (which I frefer over Ardour 3)?
>

In Ubuntu Studio 13.10 the Ardour3 version is also 3.4:

jimmy@js-vm:~$ dpkg -s ardour3
Package: ardour3
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Installed-Size: 28456
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers 
Architecture: amd64
Version: 3.4~dfsg-3ubuntu1

Though I suppose it will overwrite your already installed Ardour 3.4, but
I'm not that familiar with upgrades so hopefully someone with more
experience there will also send a reply.

/Jimmy
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[leo]

Quote from Ho Wan Cho: "* We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility purposes, 
and also Ardour
3 for audio production."

Leo asks: If I upgrade to 13.10, will it change (retro) my already Ardour 3.4 
(which I frefer over Ardour 3)?





On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:33 PM, Jimmy Sjölund  wrote:
 
Hi,

32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it passed 
without any issues. 

/Jimmy


On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  wrote:


The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond 
authentication.
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Jimmy Sjölund]

Hi,

32 or 64 bit version? I ran tests on the i386 release yesterday and it
passed without any issues.

/Jimmy

On 18 okt 2013, at 05:48, Joseph Ronne  wrote:

The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond
authentication.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Joseph Ronne]

The 'upgrade' from 13.04 to 13.10 does not appear  to work beyond
authentication.




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio 13.10 released

[Abhayadev S]

Thanks 'smartboyhw'​.. keep up the enthusiasm.

Regards,
Abhayadev S


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:

> Dear Ubuntu Studio users,
>
> The Ubuntu Studio team proudly announces the immediate release of
> Ubuntu Studio 13.10.
>
> This exciting release incorporates the new features listed below.
>
> * A new menu structure which works on any desktop environment. Len
> Ovens and Mish did a great job on moving various apps to the right
> submenu and creating new menu icons.
>
> * A new package named ubuntustudio-installer, which allows any person
> to install our metapackages and can fit into any desktop environment.
>
> * Instead of a settings menu, we have fitted in a new Settings
> Manager, with all settings in one place.
>
> * When you are in the GRUB Menu, the boot item for Ubuntu Studio will
> show "Ubuntu Studio" instead of "Ubuntu". Also, the latest -lowlatency
> kernel will be always the default boot item in the GRUB boot loader.
>
> * The XFCE session in the LightDM is removed to avoid any confusion
> with the Ubuntu Studio session.
>
> * A new wallpaper, made by our artwork lead, Zak Frappan.
>
> * The linux-lowlatency kernel has been updated to upstream Linux
> kernel version 3.11.3.
>
> * We have added GNOME Orca for accessibility purposes, and also Ardour
> 3 for audio production.
>
> Please d0wnload the image, available at
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/13.10/release.
>
> We strongly recommend users currently using Ubuntu Studio 13.04 to
> upgrade to this release.
>
> You are free to read the release notes in
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio. The
> release notes contain instructions to upgrade, and information that
> might be useful for users.
>
> Ubuntu Studio 13.10 will be supported for 9 months. User support is
> available in the Ubuntu Forums, #ubuntustudio IRC channel on Freenode
> IRC Network, and also at our mailing list,
> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com.
>
> We sincerely hope that you enjoy this release, and thank you for using
> Ubuntu Studio.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>
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>
> On behalf of the Ubuntu Studio Team
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