Re: slightly OT: Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Det wrote: > Well, the 'ß' is missing, the umlauts are composable. That's true normally. Ever since I switched to Ubuntu variants, I've had magical weird things on AltGr+[letter] that probably aren't supposed to be there (they seem to be the same for multiple layouts, like Greek) and there's a ß there, as well as number of other unexpected symbols. I'm not sure if that is a bug or a feature. > Shift plus the '-key on the english keyboard (two to the right from L) > goes to umlaut-mode, then comes the vowel. > > >but not for Portuguese (the various vowels with a tilde would seem to be > > a deal breaker off the top of my head, but I don't know enough Portuguese > > to have tried this.) > > They are composable too ... AltGr-4 goes to tilde mode, then the vowel a > or o. Not here. AltGr+4 just prints ~ directly. I have the "Spain (basic)" layout loaded, because that's the one I grew up on. Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it, since I don't speak Portuguese anyway. (Or enough German to matter.) -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: slightly OT: Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
> I think all the characters for German and
> definitely for French exist in the Spanish keyboard layout,
Well, the 'ß' is missing, the umlauts are composable.
Shift plus the '-key on the english keyboard (two to the right from L)
goes to umlaut-mode, then comes the vowel.
>but not for Portuguese (the various vowels with a tilde would seem to be
> a deal breaker off the top of my head, but I don't know enough Portuguese
> to have tried this.)
They are composable too ... AltGr-4 goes to tilde mode, then the vowel a
or o.
As even the []{} chars are easier to type than in German, the Spanish
layout is
indeed the best agreement between all of them, if only one layout should be
available.
KR
Det
--
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: slightly OT: Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
On Thursday 29 November 2007, Det wrote:
> See: No clue why they made languages so different from each other:
> Each language could be written with the same simple character set. ;-)
It is funny how it all works. I think all the characters for German and
definitely for French exist in the Spanish keyboard layout, but not for
Portuguese (the various vowels with a tilde would seem to be a deal breaker
off the top of my head, but I don't know enough Portuguese to have tried
this.)
I think it must all be a legacy from the typewriter days.
> As a german software developer used to type in 10-finger system,
> I'm always switching between german and US english keyboard layout,
> because the often used special german characters (umlauts) aren't available
> on the english one, OTOH typing program code (with {}[]\ a.s.o.) is a pain
> on a german layout.
Same with the Spanish layout. It's a lot faster to switch layouts than to
keep doing all the acrobatics to get a { again and again. People using a
plain English keyboard have a real advantage here, and switching is so easy
these days...
--
D. Michael McIntyre
--
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
slightly OT: Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
> Spanish keyboard. No clue why they make the international keyboards so
> different from each other. All the latin languages should have a
> similar one and they don't. Portuguese isn't that different from
> spanish.
Latin like: derivations from the latin language? Or
Latin like: Using a latin derived character set?
Comparing Spanish and Portuguese, you're shurely right.
See: No clue why they made languages so different from each other:
Each language could be written with the same simple character set. ;-)
As a german software developer used to type in 10-finger system,
I'm always switching between german and US english keyboard layout,
because the often used special german characters (umlauts) aren't available
on the english one, OTOH typing program code (with {}[]\ a.s.o.) is a pain
on a german layout. Also comparing the frequency of Y and Z in these
languages, the differences are reasonable.
So: german texts in german layout, program code in english layout
absolutely makes sense. Beside that, I'm also writing spanish sometimes
(my wife originates from Spain), and trying to write a fluid text with
putting
in ¡¿ñÑ via the ALT-number combination feels very umcomfortable.
For me layout switching on my pc keyboard is as usual as the
dynamic button assingment on my mobile, PDA or tv remote control:
Each "mode" (application) has its own best suited layout.
KR
Det
--
Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list
Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
Modify settings or unsubscribe at:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
I just had this problem the other day. I re-installed ubuntu studio on my laptop and I ended up with this crazy ' only happening when I typed it twice. If I typed 's it gave me a different character that kind of looked like 's but was some other character. I apparently missed a character during the keyboard test during setup and it gave me a U.S. English International (with dead keys) default keyboard layout. You have to go to system-preferences keyboard and change the layout. It took some experimentation until I figured out which one I actually needed and I ended up with U.S. English and now it is fine. Larry Lines On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 08:46 -0700, Darrin Goodman wrote: > Nice! Thank you all for your help. I will check this out further > when I get home tonight. > > Although I studied French and German in my younger years, English is > really the only language that I am typing these days; I don't often > need to type accents, but I am frequently needing to use an apostrophe > or needing a single quote when writing code. > > Since I didn't find this feature in Ubuntu, I made the incorrect > assumption that this was a bug. > > Thanks again for all of your help! > > - Darrin > > > On Nov 28, 2007 5:33 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mine is below the ? key. > > ' -> without shift > > ? -> with shift > > > > Spanish keyboard. No clue why they make the international keyboards so > > different from each other. All the latin languages should have a > > similar one and they don't. Portuguese isn't that different from > > spanish. > > > > Luis > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:24 PM, Fernando M Lacerda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi there! > > > > > > Seems like you don't want the "key composing" feature. If you want to > > > type ´ and get ´ with only one move, then you should disable "key > > > composing" on your "keyboard preferences". But you will be unable to > > > easily type the composed characters á é í ó ú à è ì ò ù ä ë ï ö ü ã õ > > > ñ... If this feature means nothing to you at all, this is all up to > > > you. > > > > > > But Luis is right, you should know the actual single quote is not the > > > ´ key, but the ' (mine is left from #1, I use a brazilian keyboard > > > layout). > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > Fernando M. Lacerda > > > > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:32 AM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > > > > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > > > > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > > > > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > > > > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > > > > > > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > > > > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > > > > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > > > > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > > > > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > > > > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > > > > > > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > > > > strange behavior. Thanks! > > > > > > > > - Darrin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > > luisbg > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > GPG: B0ED1326 > > > > -- > > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > -- > . __o > ._ \ <, > (*)/,(*) > ^--^^-^---^--^^-^^^ > Personally, I'd argue that MS is the dark side. Linux is > enlightenment. Obi-won would have used Linux. Yoda probably BSD > without GUI. Han would have used Sabayon (lots of glitz). Luke would > have used a Mac :) > -- Jim Hutchinson > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
Nice! Thank you all for your help. I will check this out further when I get home tonight. Although I studied French and German in my younger years, English is really the only language that I am typing these days; I don't often need to type accents, but I am frequently needing to use an apostrophe or needing a single quote when writing code. Since I didn't find this feature in Ubuntu, I made the incorrect assumption that this was a bug. Thanks again for all of your help! - Darrin On Nov 28, 2007 5:33 AM, Luis de Bethencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mine is below the ? key. > ' -> without shift > ? -> with shift > > Spanish keyboard. No clue why they make the international keyboards so > different from each other. All the latin languages should have a > similar one and they don't. Portuguese isn't that different from > spanish. > > Luis > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:24 PM, Fernando M Lacerda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > Seems like you don't want the "key composing" feature. If you want to > > type ´ and get ´ with only one move, then you should disable "key > > composing" on your "keyboard preferences". But you will be unable to > > easily type the composed characters á é í ó ú à è ì ò ù ä ë ï ö ü ã õ > > ñ... If this feature means nothing to you at all, this is all up to > > you. > > > > But Luis is right, you should know the actual single quote is not the > > ´ key, but the ' (mine is left from #1, I use a brazilian keyboard > > layout). > > > > Cheers! > > > > Fernando M. Lacerda > > > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:32 AM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > > > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > > > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > > > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > > > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > > > > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > > > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > > > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > > > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > > > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > > > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > > > > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > > > strange behavior. Thanks! > > > > > > - Darrin > > > > > > -- > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > > -- > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > luisbg > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GPG: B0ED1326 > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- . __o ._ \ <, (*)/,(*) ^--^^-^---^--^^-^^^ Personally, I'd argue that MS is the dark side. Linux is enlightenment. Obi-won would have used Linux. Yoda probably BSD without GUI. Han would have used Sabayon (lots of glitz). Luke would have used a Mac :) -- Jim Hutchinson -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
Mine is below the ? key. ' -> without shift ? -> with shift Spanish keyboard. No clue why they make the international keyboards so different from each other. All the latin languages should have a similar one and they don't. Portuguese isn't that different from spanish. Luis On Nov 28, 2007 1:24 PM, Fernando M Lacerda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there! > > Seems like you don't want the "key composing" feature. If you want to > type ´ and get ´ with only one move, then you should disable "key > composing" on your "keyboard preferences". But you will be unable to > easily type the composed characters á é í ó ú à è ì ò ù ä ë ï ö ü ã õ > ñ... If this feature means nothing to you at all, this is all up to > you. > > But Luis is right, you should know the actual single quote is not the > ´ key, but the ' (mine is left from #1, I use a brazilian keyboard > layout). > > Cheers! > > Fernando M. Lacerda > > > On Nov 28, 2007 1:32 AM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > > strange behavior. Thanks! > > > > - Darrin > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
Hi there! Seems like you don't want the "key composing" feature. If you want to type ´ and get ´ with only one move, then you should disable "key composing" on your "keyboard preferences". But you will be unable to easily type the composed characters á é í ó ú à è ì ò ù ä ë ï ö ü ã õ ñ... If this feature means nothing to you at all, this is all up to you. But Luis is right, you should know the actual single quote is not the ´ key, but the ' (mine is left from #1, I use a brazilian keyboard layout). Cheers! Fernando M. Lacerda On Nov 28, 2007 1:32 AM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > strange behavior. Thanks! > > - Darrin > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
On Tue, 2007-11-27 at 20:32 -0700, Darrin Goodman wrote: > Greetings, > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) It's not a bug, it's a feature! If you want the standard tick mark, press the quote followed by a space. This is also very handy for making characters with accents. Just type the quote followed by the character: é á ź ć backwards accents can be formed with the quote left from the number one: à è Trema's with the double quote ä ë etc. You should be able to change this behaviour using System->preferences->keyboard but I don't know what option you should choose. Guess you have to experiment a bit. On the other hand, this feature is really handy if you get used to it. Maybe you should try it for a few weeks. yvan -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
Fix the keyboard layout. What you are seeing is not a single quote but a latin accent. ' -> quote ` -> accent ´ -> other accent Why you have to press it twice? Because àccénts gó with léttèrs. So you préss the accent and then the lèttér it goes with. And if you want it alone, you press it twice. Luis de Bethencourt On Nov 28, 2007 9:08 AM, adam faranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had a problem similar to this in 7.04, after I installed an update. Some > how the keyboard layout was changed. Reseting the keyboard layout to the > standard US keyboard worked for me. > > > > > On Nov 27, 2007 10:32 PM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > > strange behavior. Thanks! > > > > - Darrin > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > > -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: My single quote key is misbehaving
I had a problem similar to this in 7.04, after I installed an update. Some how the keyboard layout was changed. Reseting the keyboard layout to the standard US keyboard worked for me. On Nov 27, 2007 10:32 PM, Darrin Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, > > I´ve been using Ubuntu since Dapper (and have also used Kubuntu, > Fluxbuntu, Nubuntu...) and have been using Ubuntu Studio now since it > came out under Feisty last year. Never before have I seen this sort > of behavior, but when I installed the Gutsy version of Ubuntu Studio, > my single quote key on my laptop keyboard started misbehaving. > > Essentially, when I hit the single quote key, on the first click, > nothing happens, or sometimes my computer will beep at me but it won´t > print the quote. Usually, the single quote appears after the second > click of the key. Also, the single quote is not the standard tick > mark, but is rather a very sloped single quote. Not sure if the slope > comes across or not in this email. ( ´ ) > > The machine is a Thinkpad X60. Anyone have any ideas? This is > strange behavior. Thanks! > > - Darrin > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
