Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search
Thanks for that. Regarding Scantailor Advanced, I will likely explore the link you provided as I'm most familiar with that fork/version of ST, but for completeness I mention the following different version which I just discovered accidentally: Scantailor Universal (self-desribes as "a fork based on Enhanced+Featured+Master versions of ST"). https://github.com/trufanov-nok/scantailor-universal/releases <<< Ubuntu-compatible OS (18.04+) users may get scantailor-universal package and its updates automatically by subscribing to this ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:truf/scantailor-universal sudo apt-get update sudo apt install scantailor-universal The attached deb files are for Ubuntu 18.04 (build without exiv2 support) and 19.04+ (ICC profile propagation enabled) I can't see any MS Windows binaries to try so if ST Advanced can't be added to repository in due course I may try ST Universal instead if it's stil there and compatible with current Ubuntu LTS, though its components appear to antedate ST Advanced which itself was a major work of improvement. Regards, Robert Jones On Sun, 26 Jun 2022, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 16:09:25 -0700 From: Erich Eickmeyer Reply-To: Ubuntu Studio Users To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search [snip] r...@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://SDF.org -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search
Hello Robert, On Sunday, June 26, 2022 3:27:33 PM PDT RW Jones wrote: > Keywords: graphics; document scanning; Scantailor Advanced; Tesseract-ocr; > DjVuLibre; pdftk; LibreOffice Calc; default packages; mail-list search Completely unnecessary in a mailing list, for future reference. :) > > I'm now subscribed to the list and was briefly surveying Ubuntu Studio as > a possible Linux flavour for a dual-boot with Windows 7 and/or 10 laptops. > > Main interest graphics: scanning / post-scan processing. > > > (A) Base package additions? > Just wondered if there is any appetite for adding to the basic Ubuntu Studio > main distribution or Ubuntu Studio Installer for use with eg Xubuntu the > following scan post-processing tools (e.g. optical character recognition; > cleaning up scanned images; DjVu and pdftk tools) which I've used for some > years under MS Windows - Studio's standard complement has much on > audio/video but less coverage on scanning: > > i) Scantailor Advanced (a current version that merges the features of the > ScanTailor Featured and ScanTailor Enhanced versions, the latter two being > it seems no longer developed): > https://github.com/4lex4/scantailor-advanced/ There's something you need to know: Ubuntu Studio is not its own distribution, but is an offically-recognized alternate configuration of Ubuntu. Therefore, everything we do revolves around Ubuntu and Debian packaging and packaging procedures. If something is no longer being developed, it's very unlikely you'll find anyone to package it. As for what is being developed, right now I'm not sure I'm in a spot to take-on any additional package maintenance myself, but there are definitely ways to get things packaged and sponsored. For further info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages[1] > ii) tesseract-ocr for document optical character recognition and pdf > assembly etc; see e.g.: > https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdoc This is already in the repositories and is utilized by a lot of software: https:// launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tesseract[2] > iii) DjVuLibre suite preferably including DjView v.4.10.4 as it can export > from DjVu to pdf rather than just to postscript: > http://djvu.sourceforge.net/ Oh yes, it's definitely a thing in the software repos: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/ +source/djvulibre[3] > iv) pdftk for operations on pdf including fixing bookmarks etc: > https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-server/ Yes, that one is also there: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdftk[4] > Obviously I imagine I could in due course explore adding these myself to an > installation if I proceeded but just wanted minimise the learning curve and > thought of asking here in case others might find it useful to have one or > more of these added to the default package list. > > > (B) LibreOffice Calc and Database: > I note a commenter stating at > https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio > > "Would have given a 10 But they did not include Libreoffice Calc and > Database? Why Not ??? I use them often." > > I personally concur at least as regards OpenOffice Calc being included in > (restored to?) the default package list. We removed Calc them from Ubuntu Studio's ISO (but not Ubuntu as a whole) to save space on the ISO image because the ISO image was failing to build before I got the entirety of Ubuntu to start using ISO level 3 which allows for ISO images larger than 4 GB . It has been added back to Kinetic Kudu, future 22.10. A slight oversight, but it's easily reinstalled. We have never carried Base in the default installation (at least not during my tenure) as it did not fit with the Audio/Video/Photography/ Graphics paradigm. Of course, these components are still in the software repositories and are trivial to install. > > (C) Ubuntu Studio mail archive - search function? > > I can't see a search function for Ubuntu Studio, so apologies if this has > been discussed before but was not found by me: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/ > > Is a seach function somewhere else? Looked but cannot find. > > Debian users mail list has a support function; one example: > https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=scantailor=or=Gdebian-> > user==10 > Again, this is a situation where we, as an official flavor, we are given infrastructure by Canonical, but have no say in what systems are in place. Thanks for the questions, and I hope I've covered everything. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] (A) Add graphics/scan packages: Scantailor; Tesseract; DjVu Libre; pdftk, (B) LibreOffice Calc, and (C) mail-list archives search
Keywords: graphics; document scanning; Scantailor Advanced; Tesseract-ocr; DjVuLibre; pdftk; LibreOffice Calc; default packages; mail-list search I'm now subscribed to the list and was briefly surveying Ubuntu Studio as a possible Linux flavour for a dual-boot with Windows 7 and/or 10 laptops. Main interest graphics: scanning / post-scan processing. (A) Base package additions? Just wondered if there is any appetite for adding to the basic Ubuntu Studio main distribution or Ubuntu Studio Installer for use with eg Xubuntu the following scan post-processing tools (e.g. optical character recognition; cleaning up scanned images; DjVu and pdftk tools) which I've used for some years under MS Windows - Studio's standard complement has much on audio/video but less coverage on scanning: i) Scantailor Advanced (a current version that merges the features of the ScanTailor Featured and ScanTailor Enhanced versions, the latter two being it seems no longer developed): https://github.com/4lex4/scantailor-advanced/ ii) tesseract-ocr for document optical character recognition and pdf assembly etc; see e.g.: https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tessdoc iii) DjVuLibre suite preferably including DjView v.4.10.4 as it can export from DjVu to pdf rather than just to postscript: http://djvu.sourceforge.net/ iv) pdftk for operations on pdf including fixing bookmarks etc: https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-server/ Obviously I imagine I could in due course explore adding these myself to an installation if I proceeded but just wanted minimise the learning curve and thought of asking here in case others might find it useful to have one or more of these added to the default package list. (B) LibreOffice Calc and Database: I note a commenter stating at https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntustudio "Would have given a 10 But they did not include Libreoffice Calc and Database? Why Not ??? I use them often." I personally concur at least as regards OpenOffice Calc being included in (restored to?) the default package list. (C) Ubuntu Studio mail archive - search function? I can't see a search function for Ubuntu Studio, so apologies if this has been discussed before but was not found by me: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/ Is a seach function somewhere else? Looked but cannot find. Debian users mail list has a support function; one example: https://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?P=scantailor=or=Gdebian-user==10 Regards, Robert Jones r...@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://SDF.org -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Two packages to install
Hi Anthony2020, when I installed the restricted-extras package I noticed that the flashplugin-installer was updated too. The other files have been installed, too. (I'm using Synaptic too, in this particular case.) brian On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:59:03 +0100, Do Dah wrote: > Hey Brian. > > Good Choice in OS. > > You should install the following: > > libdvdread > > libdvdcss2 > > Also I could not enjoy linux so much without having a current and updated version of Synaptic Package Manager installed. If the above two packages are not enough - go into synaptic and have a rummage around with some of the Gstreamer packages and make sure your adobe flash is up to date. > > Best > > Anthony2020 -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Two packages to install
Hey Brian. Good Choice in OS. You should install the following: libdvdread libdvdcss2 Also I could not enjoy linux so much without having a current and updated version of Synaptic Package Manager installed. If the above two packages are not enough - go into synaptic and have a rummage around with some of the Gstreamer packages and make sure your adobe flash is up to date. Best Anthony2020 -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] xaralx on 14.04 packages not working
xaralx on 14.04 packages not working. I install the package and not working, I run on a terminal and said this: wachin@wachin-id:~$ xaralx xaralx: relocation error: xaralx: symbol _ZTV19wxGnomePrintFactory, version WXU_2.8 not defined in file libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0 with link time reference But this package working fine: http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/19865993/dir/pclinuxos/com/xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm.html xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm convert with Alien: sudo alien xara-extreme-0.7-1pclos2010.i586.rpm For 14.04 is need: libjpeg62 libtiff4 But libtiff4 is no longer on 14.04, but you can download from saucey rep: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/libtiff4 I use UbuntuStudio 14.04 x386, do you can add to 14.04 this package? should not be a ubuntu package that does not work -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
after installing some packages that I want to have more up to date. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 07:41 -0700, Pete Wright wrote: how do I uncomment if I choose to? You can use Synaptic to do it, I'm not booted to Ubuntu now, so I can't explain how to do it, search the menus, I guess it's self explaining. You also can use an editor, e.g. sudo gedit or if available better gksudo gedit Use the # to uncomment an entry, an example: Enabled: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted Disabled, resp. uncommented: # deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted Everything behind a # is only a comment. Perhaps (likely) partner or (less likely) restricted cause the warnings. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:27 +0200, Pablo Fernandez wrote: PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as plain text files, ending with .list under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. A more appropiate command to see the repos is: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines that are commented out: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v # You can comment out lines if you edit these files but I suggest you should use Software Center or Synaptic to enable / disable repos. In my experience, multiverse and universe are trustworthy repos and most PPA's too. That said, I disable PPA's after installing some packages that I want to have more up to date. Oops, than Pete can ignore my previous mail regarding to partners and restricted :D. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
Thanks, all. I am now pretty clear on what to worry about or not. I am now in full Alfred E. Neuman mode (What, me worry?) and proceeding with incaution. Thanks again for all the insights. Pete On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:27 +0200, Pablo Fernandez wrote: PPA repositories' lines are not in /etc/apt/sources.list. They are, as plain text files, ending with .list under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory. A more appropiate command to see the repos is: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* Or, to print just the active repos (all of them), filter out the lines that are commented out: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | grep -v # You can comment out lines if you edit these files but I suggest you should use Software Center or Synaptic to enable / disable repos. In my experience, multiverse and universe are trustworthy repos and most PPA's too. That said, I disable PPA's after installing some packages that I want to have more up to date. Oops, than Pete can ignore my previous mail regarding to partners and restricted :D. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
[ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install untrusted packages and download from unauthenticated sources. The list looks like the usual suspects. On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out paranoia and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)? Pete (constantly being reborn as a newbie because stuff keeps changing out from under me) -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
Which packages, from what repositories caused those warnings? -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
Hi, Ralf I don't know how to tell which. I unchecked Chromium and tried again and got the same message. Do I have to do the whole list the same way, one at a time, to find out? On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote: Which packages, from what repositories caused those warnings? -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install untrusted packages and download from unauthenticated sources. The list looks like the usual suspects. On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out paranoia and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)? Pete (constantly being reborn as a newbie because stuff keeps changing out from under me) the short answer is like this.. PPA's and unsupported packages and sources are just that.. unsupported. if you trust the creator/maintainer of these packages and/or sources, then you can trust them. i use PPA's to add packages routinely, but i do read and understand the risks involved. no one here can tell you if the sources you have added are trustworthy... if you are having issues, consider purging the ppa's you have added and get the system stable and go from there.. cheers! -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- MH mikeholstein.info http://www.mikeholstein.info/ -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
Thanks, all. I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa but I am wracking my puny brain to see what it might be (thought it was the chromium, but I guess not). I will mess about and report back later. grins Pete On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Mike Holstein mikeh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote: Today's update is telling me that to update it will have to install untrusted packages and download from unauthenticated sources. The list looks like the usual suspects. On a scale of 1 to 5 how worried should I be (where 1 is flat-out paranoia and 5 is fuggeddaboudid)? Pete (constantly being reborn as a newbie because stuff keeps changing out from under me) the short answer is like this.. PPA's and unsupported packages and sources are just that.. unsupported. if you trust the creator/maintainer of these packages and/or sources, then you can trust them. i use PPA's to add packages routinely, but i do read and understand the risks involved. no one here can tell you if the sources you have added are trustworthy... if you are having issues, consider purging the ppa's you have added and get the system stable and go from there.. cheers! -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- MH mikeholstein.info http://www.mikeholstein.info/ -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Update question, untrusted packages
On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 15:45 -0700, Pete Wright wrote: I didn't think I had any unsupported ppa cat /etc/apt/sources.list run in a terminal emulation will show if you're using a PPA or not. -- ubuntu-studio-users mailing list ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?
I don't get desktop issues for Ubuntu Quantal amd64 [1]. I now will install all packages I installed for Ubuntu STUDIO Quantal amd64. Any hints how to do it the easiest way are welcome. Regards, Ralf [1] From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net To: xubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [solved] [xubuntu-users] Several issues with Quantal, especially with Evolution Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 11:31:40 +0100 On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 12:34 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Since Evolution completely is broken on my install, I didn't test the following. However, perhaps this does help somebody else: http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey I'm not sure if Ubuntu Studio Quantal from the install media is really a Xubuntu install + a little customization only. I installed Ubuntu Quantal + Xfce and for that install Evolution does work, I also don't get strange empty .goutputstream-* files at shutdown anymore. No trick is needed to correct colors, since all colors are ok. I'll backup Ubuntu Quantal now and then set it up as an audio workstation, by $ dpkg --get-selections debs_ubuntu_q.txt and doing the same for my Ubuntu Studio install and then by installing using some output from a diff or similar. Any hints (better ideas) are welcome. I'll also use as much as possible from /home/user. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: How to automatically install packages that are used by another install?
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 15:59 -0300, Rivera Valdez wrote: Hey, nice tips for synaptic. Thanks, people! :D It works like a charm, but one time a dialog interrupted the install. I had to answer, if jack should be set up for real-time mode. I didn't reboot, I even didn't log out and in and also didn't copy anything from my Ubuntu Studio Quantal's /home to Ubuntu Quantal's /home, but Evolution already had bad colors. This is fixed by http://askubuntu.com/questions/204390/evolution-the-background-of-messages-is-always-grey Beyond that Evolution still works. I hope it won't get borked, if I set up anything else. If somebody shouldn't be aware abut the reason why I switched from Ubuntu Studio Quantal to Ubuntu Quantal, it's because some desktop things are broken for the Ubuntu Studio install, e.g. Evolution doesn't work for Ubuntu Studio, but for Ubuntu. First thing I'll do is add a test user and copy my Ubuntu Studio Quantal's /home to the Ubuntu Quantal test user's /home. The wanted WM already is running spinymouse@q:~$ pidof compiz spinymouse@q:~$ pidof xfwm4 2467 and indeed the theme and window sliders already have changed. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Making Xubuntu 11.10 + Ubuntu Studio packages look like Ubuntu Studio 11.04
Hi! I know that Ubuntu Studio Xfce transition isn't completed yet until 12.04, but in the meanwhile you can make Xubuntu look like Ubuntu Studio 11.04. I'd love to see this done for Ubuntu Studio 12.04 because the it'd bring layout consistency across all versions despite moving to xfce. I'm not going to talk about theming though, because there is no xfce ubuntu studio theme yet for Xfwm4. All you have to do is install xfce4-goodies package and, if you want to edit the applications menu, install alacarte. Then delete the bottom panel and replace it with a new one with the same properties as the top panel (ie, 24 px size). Don't forget to lock it on bottom. Finally distribute the following plugins on the panels: Panel 1 - Applications Menu (you can change the icon and add Applications text in the menu properties - Places Menu (select on properties to show the text Places, without icon) - Separator - Launcher (add Firefox here) - Separator (select expand on its properties) - Notification Area - Indicator Plugin - Separator - Clock - Separator - Session Menu Panel 2 - Show Desktop - Separator - Windows Buttons - Separator - Workspace switcher (set 4 workspaces in a single row in properties) That's it. Note that there is no Trashcan plugin, so I couldn't add it last on the Panel 2. It'd be awesome to see Nautilus and Compiz (using Xfwm4 only) integrated by default. I'm trying to do it, but there are caveats that aren't solved yet, I think (GTK3 theming doesn't work well - need to add it manually; Nautilus doesn't work with the places plugin). Apparently GTK3 integration in Xfce will happen only in 1.5 years ( http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22575#p22575). -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from somewhere else. You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged, Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of compositional rapid prototype tool. Bernard -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I agree with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the possibility to add tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I guess it's not quite stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but tuxguitar is not really ment for printing, more for displaying on a screen. In my experience printing from tuxguitar is not good at all. Perhaps the option is to keep lilypond installed by default,and add frescobaldi (or have it at least in the archive). The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was very buggy too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version, to have it stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually useless to have it installed by default in the first place. grtz, Bart http://www.bartart3d.be/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users As I've voiced to the other developers in IRC, I also see Lilypond + Frescobaldi as the best notation software for those who want to write anything complex (though guitar tabs isn't really even that complex). I have added a workflow, which includes Lilypond and Frescobaldi, to the wiki page where all of this is being hashed out - *AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ADD TO THE WIKI PAGE* to get more processes and veiwpoints involved in this development process. Bernard, for instance should probably add a workflow that includes Common Music if that task isn't already taken by a superior program or other workflows (maybe even if it is). Without community involvement adjusting the wiki page a lot of the suggestions in this e-mail thread will fall to the dregs of past history without full consideration by all developers. Please add your ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows - Eric Hedekar -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Hi, I've added a workflow to the list 'Making a music publication'. I've put it in the graphic tasks, because it is not just for reading music, also for writing an educational book for example, with lots of graphics and text. If it must be moved, let me know. grtz, Bart Op schreef Eric Hedekar aftertheb...@gmail.com: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:59 PM, bart deruyter bart.deruy...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from somewhere else. You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged, Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of compositional rapid prototype tool. Bernard -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I agree with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the possibility to add tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I guess it's not quite stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but tuxguitar is not really ment for printing, more for displaying on a screen. In my experience printing from tuxguitar is not good at all. Perhaps the option is to keep lilypond installed by default,and add frescobaldi (or have it at least in the archive). The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was very buggy too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version, to have it stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually useless to have it installed by default in the first place. grtz, Bart http://www.bartart3d.be/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users As I've voiced to the other developers in IRC, I also see Lilypond + Frescobaldi as the best notation software for those who want to write anything complex (though guitar tabs isn't really even that complex). I have added a workflow, which includes Lilypond and Frescobaldi, to the wiki page where all of this is being hashed out - AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ADD TO THE WIKI PAGE to get more processes and veiwpoints involved in this development process. Bernard, for instance should probably add a workflow that includes Common Music if that task isn't already taken by a superior program or other workflows (maybe even if it is). Without community involvement adjusting the wiki page a lot of the suggestions in this e-mail thread will fall to the dregs of past history without full consideration by all developers. Please add your ideas to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows - Eric Hedekar -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from somewhere else. You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged, Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of compositional rapid prototype tool. Bernard -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Lilypond + frescobaldi might be more difficult to learn indeed, but I agree with it's quality. On top of that mscore doesn't have the possibility to add tabs to your score (perhaps an svn version can, but I guess it's not quite stable yet). Ok, there's tuxguitar for that, but tuxguitar is not really ment for printing, more for displaying on a screen. In my experience printing from tuxguitar is not good at all. Perhaps the option is to keep lilypond installed by default,and add frescobaldi (or have it at least in the archive). The version of mscore that was installed in 10.04 by default was very buggy too. Ironically I had to install a newer, unstable version, to have it stable (dragging slurs caused crashes). So it was actually useless to have it installed by default in the first place. grtz, Bart http://www.bartart3d.be/ 2010/11/11 Bernard Hurley bern...@marcade.biz On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. Sorry for not replying earlier. To my mind lilypond + frescobaldi far superior to mscore. But if both are in the archive that's OK. Actually I'm not sure if frescobaldi is in the archive or if I installed it from somewhere else. You might also consider putting Fomus, and, when it has been packaged, Common Music, from the puredyne ppa in the archive. A lot of development is going into CM + fomus + lily. I am working on another front end to this system, called Kaa, which I hope will end up as a sort of compositional rapid prototype tool. Bernard -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.comwrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a user might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio. Additionally workflows were developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks. Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a path for testing. This email will focus on identifying a package set. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) * terminatorx * timemachine * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL Hi Scott, Hi everybody! Well, I suggest another section under the audio tasks, which I would name Rehearsal and Education or something similar. I really wish gtklick replaces gtick and vmpk replaces vkeybd because they are better for these tasks: Task: Use the computer as a metronome Explanation: Sometimes you need to practice your favourite instrument and your pocket metronome is nowhere to be found. Requirements: An instrument to play Applications Used - JACK, qjackctl, gtklick Workflow: Start JACK with qjackctl Start gtklick (the first time, you might want to Edit - Preferences - Automatically connect to soundcard output) Choose meter and tempo (More options in the View menu) Start the metronome Start playing your instrument trying to follow the click Further information: http://das.nasophon.de/gtklick/ Notes: gtick is not jack-aware and it does not work out of the box. gtklick is rock solid with jack and it works out of the box in a jack environment. Task: Learn the piano Explanation: Watch a piano keyboard highlighting the keys as a midi file or a real midi keyboard is playing Requirements: A real midi piano keyboard, if possible. Applications used: JACK, qjackctl, a2jmidid, patchage (optional) qsynth (or another softsynth, if there is a midi keyboard), mscore, vmpk Workflow: Start JACK with qjackctl Execute a2jmidid Start mscore Edit - Preferences - Use internal synthetiser. Jack Audio Server. Use JACK MIDI output (1 port). Restart mscore (restarting is only needed the first time) Start vmpk In qjackctl or patchage, connect the jack midi port of mscore to the a2j vmpk midi input Play the demo and watch vmpk highlighting the notes in real time. as you hear the music. If you have a midi keyboard: Start qsynth (load a soundfont if not loaded
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On 10/30/2010 07:09 PM, Hartmut Noack wrote: Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender: Hello again. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-) All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely different application. Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not intended to be used. I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus. Same here, Qtractor is a multi-track recorder/MIDI composition tool while Seq24 is a pattern based sequencer. Some of the most amazing stuff made on GNU/Linux is done with Seq24. * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack. Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess. It really is a shame Rezound isn't actively being developed/maintained anymore. And the Audacity team should really take a look at implementing direct JACK support instead of using PortAudio. * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. Same here too. LMMS aims at being an all-in-one solution which makes it stand out and also very usable for someone coming from another platform where monolithic apps are more widespread. * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24. And why Mixxx? It is one of the best DJ mixer apps available, if not the best. * terminatorx * timemachine Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential. best regs HZN/berlin * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL Best, Jeremy -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 05:47:34AM EDT, Jeremy Jongepier wrote: It really is a shame Rezound isn't actively being developed/maintained anymore. And the Audacity team should really take a look at implementing direct JACK support instead of using PortAudio. Audacity is cross-platform, hense the use of portaudio. I know of other projets that work this way, mixxx included. On the other hand, pure-data supports native backends for all the platforms it runs on, i.e jack and ALSA for linux, coreaudio for OS X, and the Windows audio system whatever its called, for Windows. Luke -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Dear Hartmut, thank you for your compassion. I bought a laptop in 2008 for personal use. At that point I wanted to try Ubuntu Studio but it stopped very quickly because of the non-working wireless connectivity. I only had a wireless connection available in the basement. I installed Linux Mint and it has been working very well. I've also moved twice within the last year and have not gotten my music equipment up and running. Nevertheless, I've been reading all emails in this mailing list and it seems the best setup for Ubuntu Studio would be a desktop PC with a wired network connection, a firewire audio adapter and a MIDI controller that can be plugged in into the GAME port. I had gotten myself a USB audio adapter and a USB midi controller. From what I've learned here, USB seems not to be a very good choice. I am still in the phase of deciding what to do next, and that requires time and money (neither of which I have plenty of, currently). Thank you once again for sharing your knowledge! Sincerely, Stefan --- Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010: Von: Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 23:28 Uhr Am 30.10.2010 20:51, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com: Hello Hartmut, thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, but I am sorry that I can't test it. Sad - any particular reasons? You can simplyfy the workflow if you skip the avidemux-excursion. You can record the given soundtrack in Ardour as it is being played in OME. Less elegant but simple and just works ;-) Also if you do not need MIDI-composing, you can work it out with Ardour and OME alone... good luck :-) HZN Best regards, Stefan --- Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010: Von: Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender: Hello again. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-) All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely different application. Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not intended to be used. I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus. * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack. Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess. * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24. * terminatorx * timemachine Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential. best regs HZN/berlin * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Firstly, thank you everyone for replying. Community involvement was what I desired and is highly encouraging as well. @hartmut I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-) Awesome! This is certainly the type of response I had desired :) I am concerned with the number of video applications we may be acquiring in the workflows now. Currently, OpenShot, Avidemux, and OpenMovieEditor are all included. OpenShot is arguably the easierst, most user friendly video editor. I understand that Avidemux might not be considered a video editor per se, but allows audio to be stripped easily. OpenMovieEditor apparently is JACK aware (I thought LiVes was the only JACK capable video application). Each seems to have a strong point, but I was wondering if it was possible to consolidate these applications choices to reduce their numbers. If an easy solution does not present itself and it is the best interest of functionality to keep all the applications, then it would seem that we should keep all the applications. My suggestion, at this point, would be to replace OpenShot with OpenMovieEditor in the Create a Home Movie task. But I admit that I haven't used OME in quite some time and am not aware how it compares to OpenShot in terms of usability and friendliness. LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. I wish that you do not take my statements in a derogatory or hostile manner. However, I think it would be unfortunate if we were to include LMMS (or any application) solely on the arguments presented above. I have previously mentioned validating inclusion of applications to make sure that they support an entire tool chain for accomplishing a task. But a second order effect would be to also validate if anyone actually desires to accomplish a particular task. Hence, my request that someone specify a task and develop a workflow to support it. Can one someone identify a task and develop a supporting workflow so we can discuss LMMS without abstraction. Also keep in mind, we should also consider that if a very select subset of users desires an application, or entire toolchain, should we include it in the ISO and make hundreds or thousands of users devote bandwidth to download these applications. Especially considering that NO applications are being removed from the archives and can be easily installed with 'sudo apt-get install'. @Jeremy Same here, Qtractor is a multi-track recorder/MIDI composition tool while Seq24 is a pattern based sequencer. Some of the most amazing stuff made on GNU/Linux is done with Seq24. And why Mixxx? It is one of the best DJ mixer apps available, if not the best. Hi Jeremy, and thank you for your comments/questions. I would like to discuss Qtractor in two senses; one as a sequencer and another in tandem with Mixxx. Firstly, Seq24 is a sequencer. If one were wanting to create a song in a studio/bedroom using a sequencer then I would suggest that Qtractor might be a better and more eloquent solution. But if you disagree then I encourage you to add information to the workflow wiki page as an alternative (don't delete, be considerate of others work). Secondly, I will frame Seq24 and Mixxx in a 'live performance' environment. These applications are being considered for a 'live performance' seed (along with other applications) which would then present the user with the option to install them during installation. However, I am not very knowledgeable about using these applications in a live performance and feel that I cannot create tasks or wofklows for them in good faith. But, this is where you can assist by appending the workflow wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows Please keep in mind, a superfluous task (e.g. this task is to keep my favourite application) or a task that only a very few people might support might not be included in the ISO. We are not removing any application from the archives, we would simply not be including it on the ISO. @saearea-test I bought a laptop in 2008 for personal use. At that point I wanted to try Ubuntu Studio but it stopped very quickly because of the non-working wireless connectivity. I only had a wireless connection available in the basement. I installed Linux Mint and it has been working very well. I've also moved twice within the last year and have not gotten my music equipment up and running. Nevertheless, I've been reading all emails in this mailing list and it seems the best setup for Ubuntu Studio would be a desktop PC with a wired network connection, a firewire audio adapter and a MIDI controller that can be plugged in into the GAME port. I had gotten myself a USB audio adapter and a USB midi controller. From what I've learned here, USB seems not to be a very good choice. I am still in the phase of deciding what to do next, and that requires time and money (neither of which I have plenty
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
I agree with a lot of Scott's sentiments on trying to cut back on some of these programs. For instance, in my case the type of music I make and the recording approaches I take mean that I have only ever used: -JACK -Ardour -Jamin -Occasionally Hydrogen As you can see, for a user like me, there are just way too many other audio applications that I have no idea what to do with. It would be nice to have the choice to install just a base set of audio applications. And then, if I ever decide I need more MIDI editing, or some software instruments, I can just go download them. Coming from that perspective, the only reason I can see for having any other audio recording/editing program on the ISO besides Ardour would be if someone wants to do MIDI. And perhaps after Ardour 3 is released, there would essentially be no reason to have anything else. Now, does Audacity or LMMS do certain things better? Sure, and if you want to use them, you can still download them. On the other hand, I would like to see Sound Converter and GCD Master added. I'll write up a work flow that shows how these incorporate into common tasks and add it to the wiki when I next get the time. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Am 31.10.2010 16:12, schrieb Scott Lavender: Firstly, thank you everyone for replying. You are very welcome .-) I am concerned with the number of video applications we may be acquiring in the workflows now. Currently, OpenShot, Avidemux, and OpenMovieEditor are all included. I understand the concern and that it is indeed a complicated task to find a sane and working set of video-apps for Linux. Since the free video-apps are by far not that mature as the audio-stuff I can only add some more points for the discussion. Avidemux is some kind of a swiss-army-knife for working with video-files. I did use it 2 or 3 times as a video-editor but I use it frequently to extract audio and manipulate formats. There are great commandline-apps for these tasks and these are easy to use. But it is not at all easy to know all the options you have in the jungle of formats for video so I consider Avidemux a very user-friendly app since it allows to work with these options intuitive. (Somewhat like PHPMyAdmin if you start working with MySQL...) OpenShot is arguably the easierst, most user friendly video editor. OpenShot is nice and its design is very promising. But as I tested it in May last year I had so many crashes in so many different normal situations, that I must say: if it was not developped in a most astounding speed in the last months, it cannot be considered a application ready for end-users. I understand that Avidemux might not be considered a video editor per se, but allows audio to be stripped easily. OpenMovieEditor apparently is JACK aware It has the best Jack-implementation I ever had the fun using with a video-editor. It produces crashes also that can give you a situation, if you are working in a studio with a customer but I made several video-projects with it and the work went like a breeze - its desaster-recovery system faild only once in 10-12 crashes I had with it in several hundred houres of work. So I would say: even while 1 crash in 10 h is still much too much, it is recommendable. (I thought LiVes was the only JACK capable video application). Each seems to have a strong point, but I was wondering if it was possible to consolidate these applications choices to reduce their numbers. If an easy solution does not present itself and it is the best interest of functionality to keep all the applications, then it would seem that we should keep all the applications. For starters I think, OME should be enough (given, that all the frei0r-plugins and of course ffmpeg are on board also). But the users should be informed in a nice and understandable way, that much more is possible, if they install a list of additional apps. My suggestion, at this point, would be to replace OpenShot with OpenMovieEditor in the Create a Home Movie task. But I admit that I haven't used OME in quite some time and am not aware how it compares to OpenShot in terms of usability and friendliness. Unfortunately, OME is not actively developed these days. Since it is still one great app, I still would recommend its inclusion - maybe this could even lure Richard Spindler into further developing it ;-) LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. I wish that you do not take my statements in a derogatory or hostile manner. However, I think it would be unfortunate if we were to include LMMS (or any application) solely on the arguments presented above. Absolutely no offence ment. :-) But let me advocate LMMS some more: Workflow: Creating electronic music for absolute beginners. Requirements: LMMS * open LMMS and choose alsa for audio-i/o * drag some instruments, presets and/or samples from the browser at the left to beatlines or tracks * hit play and have fun * invite you good friends rightklick, middleklick and the CTRL-key to the party and have more fun * connect any MIDI-Keyboard/Controller to tracks and parameters and have serious fun. Lmms is the most beginner-friendly sequencer I ever have seen under Linux and it is at the same time capable enough to do complex advanced stuff with it also. Qtractor is much more complicated. But while Qtractor comes with Support for DSSI and LV2 and very capable Audiotracks, LMMS has only crude sample-tracks and knows only LADSPA (it comes whith great built-in synths/samplers though and can be compiled to use VST). So both have their audience and their unique powers. Users, that come from Windows/Mac are used to have *all* these powers available and a Linux-distro geared towards creative users should offer as much powers as the free-software-devs are providing.So yes: both are sequencers but if you want to make people happy, you should have both. Beginners will be appalled by the learning curve Qtractor demands, some more experienced users would be disappointed, if the flexibility and audio-capabilities of Qtractor would not be available. So I think, giving both a place in
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Hello Hartmut, thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, but I am sorry that I can't test it. Best regards, Stefan --- Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010: Von: Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender: Hello again. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-) All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely different application. Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not intended to be used. I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus. * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack. Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess. * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24. * terminatorx * timemachine Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential. best regs HZN/berlin * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Am 30.10.2010 20:51, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com: Hello Hartmut, thank you very much for the additional work-flow description! Looks great, but I am sorry that I can't test it. Sad - any particular reasons? You can simplyfy the workflow if you skip the avidemux-excursion. You can record the given soundtrack in Ardour as it is being played in OME. Less elegant but simple and just works ;-) Also if you do not need MIDI-composing, you can work it out with Ardour and OME alone... good luck :-) HZN Best regards, Stefan --- Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de schrieb am Sa, 30.10.2010: Von: Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.de Betreff: Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty An: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Datum: Samstag, 30. Oktober, 2010 19:09 Uhr Am 29.10.2010 23:36, schrieb Scott Lavender: Hello again. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows I have added a workflow for video-postproduction. Comments welcome :-) All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) Qtractor is by no means a replacement for seq24. It is just a completely different application. Seq24 is a pattern-oriented sequencer taht can be used for live-performance in ways that qtractor cannot be used and is not intended to be used. I would consider it a big mistake to remove Seq24. To replace it with qtractor would be like replacing a helicopter with an Airbus. * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity I find this logical since Audacity does not fit very well into Jack. Still I wonder what would be the replacement for it (Ardour for more sophisticated waveediting and Mhawaveedit for simle tasks could be a sane recommendation for Audacity-users I guess. * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms LMMS has a unique concept in terms of usage and workflow that is *not* doubled by qtractor. I'd recommend to keep it. * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) see above - I strongly recommend to keep Seq24. * terminatorx * timemachine Many like timemachine and will be disappointed not to find it automatically installed. Though I would not consider it essential. best regs HZN/berlin * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a user might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio. Additionally workflows were developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks. Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a path for testing. This email will focus on identifying a package set. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) * terminatorx * timemachine * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Mike Holstein mikeh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Scott Lavender scottalaven...@gmail.comwrote: Hello again. We are almost a month from the first Alpha image for Ubuntu Studio and I wanted to share an update about Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal 11.04. I had mentioned before on the mailing list that in an effort to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient we were identifying tasks that a user might want to accomplish with Ubuntu Studio. Additionally workflows were developed to support these tasks which include which packages might be required a general set of actions required to accomplish said tasks. Developing these workflows helps us in numerous ways, including identifying a package set, providing framework for user documentation, and providing a path for testing. This email will focus on identifying a package set. For those who are interesting, and I would hope most would be, you can find the task and workflow wiki page at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows All users are encouraging to peruse this page and add their contributions! We only ask that if you have a differing workflow that one that is already extant, please add yours as an alternative and do not remove the other. Before going further I want to explain more about what I mean when I use the term package set. This term is a reference to the applications installed by default with Ubuntu Studio. These packages are NOT being removed from the archives. You can always install these packages at any time, by any method of choice. We are only discussing the inclusion of these package on the Ubuntu Studio ISO. Right. Now that we have that out of the way, I want to inform you how the currently installed package set will change for Natty. These will be new packages (or applications) installed by default when installing Ubuntu Studio: * guitarix * hydrogen-drumkits * lashd * mscore (to replaces denemo and lilypond) * phasex * qtractor (to replace seq24) * specimen * whysynth * yoshimi (to replace zynaddsubfx) These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity * beast * bitscope * bristol * csound * denemo (replaced by mscore) * freebirth * freqtweak * genpo * jackeq * jacktools * jdelay * lillypond (replaced by mscore) * lmms * mixxx * muse * qamix * seq24 (replaced by qtractor) * terminatorx * timemachine * timidity * tk707 * xwax * zynaddsubfx Again, the goal is to make Ubuntu Studio more effective and proficient, in essence more useful. Users want to accomplish a task (e.g. mix a song), not just run an application. The current status of the package set ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageSelectionDevelopment) was developed to assist users accomplish tasks. If an application is listed to no longer be included with Ubuntu Studio but you want it to be, then please identify a task that requires it and develop a workflow at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Workflows This is your chance to directly influence which applications are included with Ubuntu Studio. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel just to clarify, these packages that are being removed from the ubuntustudio meta-package, and the default install will still be available in the repo as long as the packages are supported, correct?... if someone needed aconnectgui, they can just apt-get it... thanks -- MH http://www.myspace.com/mikeholstein http://opensourcemusician.libsyn.com/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-de...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel Aye. If these packages are not installed by default with Ubuntu Studio, one can use apt-get to install them. They will still be in the archives. ScottL -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Tasks, Workflows, and Packages for Ubuntu Studio Natty
On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 16:36 -0500, Scott Lavender wrote: These are packages (or applications) that are currently included with Ubuntu Studio, but will no longer be: * aconnectgui * audacity Thanks for the link to those Scott. I noticed this use of Audacity. = Create Audio Clips and Sound Effects for Videos Explanation - Trim existing audio files to create sound effects or audio clips for videos Requirements - Existing audio files from which to trim sound effects or audio clips Applications Used - Audacity = So I assume that needs to be corrected. I do not know much about all of this, but I am learning and at least I can do my part and proof-read. :-) Cheers, Tim signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
make-kpkg for Squeeze and maybe Lucid too - was: Re: [64studio-users] Why can't I install listed packages [snip]
I didn't read the latest mails on Ubuntu Studio Users Mailing List, I'll do it ASAP. Sorry for the cross-posting. I didn't test this ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=243740 ... but there might be a solution for compiling a kernel using make-kpkg. - Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Help with internet and packages
Siento por no especificar eso. Si aun tengo la instalacion. Y de hecho tengo un triple booteo: ubuntu, ubuntu studio y windows 7. Voy a tratar de reintalar el SO con el cable ehternet conectado y te aviso. Ya probe con ifconfig y si me sale la interface wlan0. Pero al tratar de configurar el wlan0 en herramientas de red me dice que compruebe que la interface este bien escrita y que la soporte el sistema. Por esto entiendo que sera algun driver, pero no lo creo, pruebo reinstalar el SO y te aviso mañana. Gracias por tomarte la molestia! El 22 de enero de 2010 23:14, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus arad...@gmail.com escribió: A ver, yo soy de México (sorry at the list for reply in Spanish) asumo que intentaste instalar Ubuntu Studio 9.10 en tu laptop. Bien hay varios detalles que no explicas. De entrada si tienes la instalación aun o te volviste al viejo y malo Windows. En caso de tener aun la instalación de Ubuntu studio, debiste instalar desde el CD y tener conectada tu lap a internet por cable, eso ayuda a evitar problemas de este tipo. Otra cosa que podrías hacer (en caso de tener la instalación aun hecha) es abrir una sesión de consola y escribir ifconfig y ver que te arroja. ¿No sé si sepas de redes? Saludos: Aradnix __ lutar e vencer! lluitar i vèncer! combattre et vaincre! combattere e vincere! vechten en overwinnen! kämpfen und besiegen! kämpa och besegra! bojovat a zvítězit! walczyć i wygrać! воевать и выиграть! 戦いに勝つ! jarraitu eta garaitu! -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)
Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including zynjacku and lv2rack. To add my PPA as a repository- Quick method: ppa:slavender/karmic More laborious: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main and signing key 1024R/0020F80E They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various effects but did not run any sound through them. I would be very interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these. Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu entries at this point. To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet when building the application. I have run them from the terminal. Regards, Scott -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)
Scott, Teza / Anyone: being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic results, I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one like me, is there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go? Kenneth On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender slaven...@consolidated.net wrote: Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including zynjacku and lv2rack. To add my PPA as a repository- Quick method: ppa:slavender/karmic More laborious: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main and signing key 1024R/0020F80E They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various effects but did not run any sound through them. I would be very interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these. Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu entries at this point. To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet when building the application. I have run them from the terminal. Regards, Scott -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)
Hi Kenneth, what would you like to do? If you want to record music, start by learning how to use jack server, and how to connect softs beetween them, how to use effects ect. Just tell us more. If I can help, it will be a pleasure. Regards from Paris. Teza Kenneth Koym a écrit : Scott, Teza / Anyone: being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic results, I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one like m e, is there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go? Kenneth On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender slaven...@consolidated.net mailto:slaven...@consolidated.net wrote: Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including zynjacku and lv2rack. To add my PPA as a repository- Quick method: ppa:slavender/karmic More laborious: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main and signing key 1024R/0020F80E They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various effects but did not run any sound through them. I would be very interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these. Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu entries at this point. To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet when building the application. I have run them from the terminal. Regards, Scott -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: LV2 packages for Karmic (Teza requested)
Teza, I'd like to produce DVDs, turning raw footage coupled with non-profit entities I run into productions that sell members on what we do; just real basic, i.e., - my neighborhood association wishes to stop a gravel pit operator from destroying property values, creating dust, destroying water holding capability of the 2,000 acres next to public schools, a housing edition - dialoguemakers.org wants to do better recruiting of mentors for peacemaking helping local youth. need to cut chaff from footage ripped to my HD, dub, connect convey message. Kenneth On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 4:00 PM, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote: Hi Kenneth, what would you like to do? If you want to record music, start by learning how to use jack server, and how to connect softs beetween them, how to use effects ect. Just tell us more. If I can help, it will be a pleasure. Regards from Paris. Teza Kenneth Koym a écrit : Scott, Teza / Anyone: being a noobie to Ubu Stu 9.10 Karmic, in fact to producing basic results, I'm missing where you're going. Not that I need this; for one like m e, is there a good way you'd recommend how I could get past go? Kenneth On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Scott Lavender slaven...@consolidated.net mailto:slaven...@consolidated.net wrote: Several lv2 packages are available for Karmic in my PPA now, including zynjacku and lv2rack. To add my PPA as a repository- Quick method: ppa:slavender/karmic More laborious: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/slavender/karmic/ubuntu karmic main and signing key 1024R/0020F80E They appear to work as I started each application and inserted various effects but did not run any sound through them. I would be very interested to hear any reports of success or failure using these. Also it should be noted that these do not include desktop icons or menu entries at this point. To be honest, I don't know how to add them yet when building the application. I have run them from the terminal. Regards, Scott -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
Hi all. With another team, lprod.org team have created a live DVD of Ubuntu Studio Karmic 32 bits (we can create also a 64 bits example). I've tested it this morning on a laptop with only windows XP pro on the hard disk. It's working perfectly. It could be nice to have this iso available for everyone, but we have a trouble. The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. So where can i found the complete official list of ALL the packages free included in the Ubuntu Studio karmic official DVD install disk to compare to our beta disk, to create a new one as the official one but live, without all forbidden packages to allow everyone to download it ? Is it allowed to create it ? If not, we can create a lprod.org one, based only on free software included in Ubuntu Studio, in live and downloadable. Thank's for answers. Laurent, lprod.org -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. Is there a place to download this live, full iso ? I'd like to teste it, please. Thanks Leo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: List of Ubuntu Studio packages for making a live DVD ?
Wow...really? I wanna test too... Any link please...LOL 2009/12/8, Leo leo...@gmail.com: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:47 AM, laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr wrote: The guy who has created the live DVD has done a great job, but has introduced severals packages which are very important for video editing but cause some trouble of licence, as ffmpeg, mencoder, mplayer. So this DVD is very powerfull because you can edit video in live which is very impressive, but illegal in severals countries. I'm gonna complete my tests, ardour is also compiled with VST support, and many non free improvement are live available. Is there a place to download this live, full iso ? I'd like to teste it, please. Thanks Leo -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Dikirim dari perangkat seluler saya Then which favors of GOD will you deny As mercy and grace control universe As everything was made in pairs for balance As lights always given after darkness As sins are revealed for us to be avoided -- Blog : http://balikpapan.linux.or.id YM : u.alfar...@yahoo.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.
hi... will the shipped FFMPEG b a cut down version? On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:01:02 +0100 ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Send Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list submissions to ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ubuntu-studio-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com You can reach the person managing the list at ubuntu-studio-users-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Ubuntu-Studio-users digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages. (laurent.bellegarde) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 13:28:11 +0200 From: laurent.bellegarde laurent.bellega...@free.fr Subject: Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages. To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: 49eeff4b.9010...@free.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Luke Yelavich a ?crit : Hi once again The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because Canonical don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore having ffmpeg on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on archive.ubuntu.com. This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will be expanded again in Karmic. Luke Hi, That's a good news ;-) Bye, Laurent -- -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users End of Ubuntu-Studio-users Digest, Vol 24, Issue 36 *** -- ngerbo...@gmail.com -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.
Luke Yelavich a écrit : Hi once again The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because Canonical don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore having ffmpeg on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on archive.ubuntu.com. This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will be expanded again in Karmic. Luke Hi, That's a good news ;-) Bye, Laurent -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Exception granted for UbuntuStudio to shipp ffmpeg packages.
Hi once again The technical board have decided to grant UbuntuStudio and exception for shipping ffmpeg packages on the UbuntuStudio disks. This is because Canonical don't produce any physical media for UbuntuStudio, and therefore having ffmpeg on the disks is no different to having ffmeg on archive.ubuntu.com. This means that the video task will be back on the disk in full, and will be expanded again in Karmic. Luke signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
ppa with backported packages for hardy and intrepid
Hi all, I've been trying to do two things in one: Learn a bit about debian/ubuntu packaging + creating a ppa with up-to-date versions of some of the applications that I would use myself, that is music production applications, for hardy and intrepid. The packages in my ppa are completely untested (this cannot be stressed enough, I haven't even tested all of them myself), and they are my first attempts ever of (re)packaging. Now, my question is: Is there any interest in an archive like this? If yes, would it be a good idea to start a team for backporting packages? Is anyone interested in working on this? Right now, the ppa holds, e.g: * ardour 2.7 * audacity 1.3.6 * hydrogen 0.9.4beta2 * ffado 2.0-rc1 * jack 0.116.1 * kernel 2.6.24 for intrepid 64-bit My idea is to keep to latest upstream versions of packages and avoid experimental versions. The reason hydrogen 0.9.4-beta2 is there, is because 0.9.3 never worked with jack+ffado for me, and the reason ffado is there, is because jack+freebob never worked with my audio device. Personally, I think there should be a semi-official archive that allows ubuntustudio users to upgrade to the latest and greatest without leaving their distribution, be it hardy or intrepid. To me, this became obvious when I realized I couldn't upgrade to intrepid due to the realtime kernel problems. I really wanted a new version of ardour, and hydrogen wouldn't work for me, and so on, so I ended up compiling everything I needed locally, but if I'm doing it, there might be others doing it as well, and some who don't know how to do it. So why not sharing, eh? Regards, Khashayar. (PS, I know I haven't included a link to the ppa. That's because all packages aren't built yet, and I want to know what people think first. Also, I have to come up with a way to REALLY STRESS that the packages are completely untested :-)) -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
ffado 2.0RC packages?
Hi, I had an intense flirt with ubuntustudio a while back, until I realized my laptop was way too slow to keep up with all the tracks I recorded. I've just now ordered a new laptop, and plan to continue recording as soon as it arrives. I remember I had to install packages from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive, to get everything working before (on Hardy, which I will be using again due to the rt-problems). So, I was wondering if there are any plans to update the packages in that ppa? The ffado project recently released a RC of the ffado libs, if I'm not mistaken... Thanks! Regards, Khash. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
packages
I have a couple questions about Ubuntu studio package oddities: 1) Why is Hydrogen compiled with Lash support (and will in fact delay startup by a couple seconds and spew messages about not being able to connect to port 14541) even though there's no Lash package as part of the standard distribution or even present in the apt repository? I understand that Lash is still young, but can't you include a package for users to use at their own risk? If not, can you remove the Lash dependency from hydrogen so it doesn't delay? 2) Could we please have a package for jackctlmmc? ( http://apps.linuxaudio.org/apps/all/jackctlmmc ) It's an extremely useful but tiny application that many audio engineers are using. It's literally one tiny source file and should be easy enough to build and add to the repository. I've never made an Ubuntu package, but I can try my hand at it if you'd like. The reason I ask is that it's annoying for the average user to have to install / configure all the development packages just to get this little app working. I'm new to Linux audio, but not to audio engineering or Linux itself, so I'd like to lend a hand where I can. Ubuntu Studio is an incredible distro, thanks for all the good work! -- Alex -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
