Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread andrej.znidar...@gmail.com
Locale: sl_SI.UTF8
Affected: YES
Percentage: 5% (3 non latin characters)



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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
Hebrew has the same problem as Arabic so I guess RTL would work perfectly
and there are Hebrew terminal fonts.

The solution implemented in the Debian installation is just great but AFAIK
is not perfect.

I reported a bug about this issue against failsafe-x in the past.

Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani

Hebrew translator




On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.orgwrote:

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 01:04:26AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote:
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  Hello Ubuntu Translators,
 
  I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
  Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
  in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
  are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.
 
  Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
  has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
  issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.
 
  To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
  framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
  going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
  workaround.
 
  To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
  whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
  zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
  that locales.
 
  1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
  $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
  2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.
 
  3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
  password to login.
 
  4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters
 exist.
  $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
  5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.

 For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
 ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
 if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
 /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
 proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
 choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
 release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
 as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
 10.04 right now).

 Regards,
  Khaled

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Nobuto MURATA
Thank you all for your testing.

For clearing up again for making easy to catch up, the list below has
already tested locales.

Affected:
  ar_*
  he_IL
  ja_JP
  ko_KR
  ru_RU
  sl_SI (with 5%)
  vi_VN (with 70%)
  zh_*

NOT Affected:
  bg_BG
  da_DK (but some characters not displayed properly)
  en_*
  es_ES
  fr_FR
  gl_ES
  hr_HR
  is_IS
  nl_NL
  pt_BR


Thanks again to the testers! Still waiting other testers.

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Nobuto MURATA
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Hi Khaled,

(2011年02月20日 06:55), Khaled Hosny wrote:
 For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
 ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
 if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
 /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
 proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
 choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
 release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
 as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
 10.04 right now).

Thank you for providing this information. I will forward it to
developers when attaching a complete list.

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Nobuto MURATA
(2011年02月21日 11:42), Nobuto MURATA wrote:
 Hi Khaled,
 
 (2011年02月20日 06:55), Khaled Hosny wrote:
 For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
 ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
 if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
 /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
 proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
 choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
 release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
 as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
 10.04 right now).
 
 Thank you for providing this information. I will forward it to
 developers when attaching a complete list.

I have one question. When switching to Arabic font, untranslatable
strings like resume,clean,dpkg,failsafeX,… are also displayed properly?

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Nobuto MURATA
Hi,

(2011年02月20日 11:23), Quynh Vu Do wrote:
 2011/2/20 Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org:
 
 In case that menus are not translated yet in your locale, could you take
 additional steps below?

 1. Translate messages on friendly-recovery roughly (just for testing).

 2. Save as a UTF-8 encoded text file.

 3. Go to console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2.

 4. Open the saved file like the line below.
 $ cat ~/saved_file.txt

 5. Check that unreadable characters exists.
 
 Doing steps above (full translation excepted for menu items left in
 English, item menu's descriptions fully translated)
 Changing locale to vi_VN.UTF8
 Going to console CTRL+ALT+F2
 the saved files shows with errors
 
 Locale=Vi_VN.UTF8
 Affected: YES
 Percentage: 70%
 
 Percentage is calculated as:
 
 (number of characters with accents not showing properly)/(total number
 of characters with accents)
 
 It is not 100% because in Vietnamese some characters with accents are
 the same as in French.
 
 Changing locale to vi_VN gives the same results.

Could you tell me which is your problem about 70% of the characters?
Either they are completely unreadable characters like squares or
readable but odd about accents?

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 11:48:52AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote:
 (2011年02月21日 11:42), Nobuto MURATA wrote:
  Hi Khaled,
  
  (2011年02月20日 06:55), Khaled Hosny wrote:
  For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
  ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
  if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
  /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
  proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
  choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
  release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
  as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
  10.04 right now).
  
  Thank you for providing this information. I will forward it to
  developers when attaching a complete list.
 
 I have one question. When switching to Arabic font, untranslatable
 strings like resume,clean,dpkg,failsafeX,… are also displayed properly?

Yes, it shows both Arabic and English text correctly.

Regards,
 Khaled


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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-20 Thread Ole Andreas Utstumo
Locale: nb_NO.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

Locale nn_NO.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

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