Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
Þann fös 22.jan 2010 01:37, Arne Goetje skrifaði: Adi Roiban wrote: --- Right now I don't know exactly how the grouping feature should look like (from UI point of view) and what should be the logic for grouping templates (how can you tell if a template is in Ubuntu and not Kubuntu, beside Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc... what other groups can we have...) If it helps, I can point you to the code which classifies the translations into the respective language-packs (gnome, kde, base). Cheers Arne I'd like to see classification according to distributed media, e.g. Ubuntu-X.xx-Live-CD, Kubuntu-X.xx-Live-CD, Ubuntu-X.xx-Server-netinstall, etc. I think that small translation teams would appreciate such a list, so they could focus on finishing a certain product. Best regards Sveinn í Felli Icelandic translator -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
Hi all, I'd like to announce that the priorities of translation templates in Launchpad have now been set for Karmic according to the classification below: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%20policy This means that from now on templates which are considered more important to focus on for translation will be shown further up in the global list of Ubuntu templates. You can see the end result in the new ordering of templates here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic If you'd like to tweak any of the priorities (e.g. if you think a certain package should be given more or less priority and appear further up or down in the list), please let us know here and the Ubuntu Translations Coordinators [1] team will be able to quickly modify them if there is consensus. The next list of priorites to be set will be for Lucid, and then we can perhaps look at the previous releases. Regards, David. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge signada digitalment -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
Hi, That's great work, however I was wondering whether it is possible to see separately packages related to Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Right now you can see lot of KDE packages in this list. (I do understand that you can install KDE packages in Ubuntu and vice versa). My thinking is, it would be also good to see only packages which come on installation CD for each version of Ubuntu, so translation teams can see what is missing in initial installation of system. Kind regards Laco 2010/1/21 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com: Hi all, I'd like to announce that the priorities of translation templates in Launchpad have now been set for Karmic according to the classification below: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%20policy This means that from now on templates which are considered more important to focus on for translation will be shown further up in the global list of Ubuntu templates. You can see the end result in the new ordering of templates here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic If you'd like to tweak any of the priorities (e.g. if you think a certain package should be given more or less priority and appear further up or down in the list), please let us know here and the Ubuntu Translations Coordinators [1] team will be able to quickly modify them if there is consensus. The next list of priorites to be set will be for Lucid, and then we can perhaps look at the previous releases. Regards, David. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
Hi Laco, El dj 21 de 01 de 2010 a les 10:52 +, en/na Laco Gubík va escriure: Hi, That's great work, however I was wondering whether it is possible to see separately packages related to Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Right now you can see lot of KDE packages in this list. (I do understand that you can install KDE packages in Ubuntu and vice versa). The global templates list contains all translatable applications in the main and restricted Ubuntu repositories. This basically includes Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Ubuntu Netbook Edition. What we've discussed in the past is to separate that view into package sets (e.g. GNOME, KDE, Mozilla, etc.). While we all agree that this would be a good idea, the resources in the Launchpad Translations development team will be put into providing better integration with upstream translations right now, so they will not have time to work on this on this cycle. You can see the full Launchpad development Roadmap, including Translations, here [1]. That said, Launchpad is Open Source, so we encourage anyone wanting to implement any new features to work on them to scratch their own itch, so to say. If you'd be interested, I'd recommend you to see the documentation on starting hacking on Launchpad [2] or attend the Launchpad Translations under the hood session [3] during the Ubuntu Developer Week next week on the 26th of January. Also, people on the #launchpad-dev IRC channel on Freenode are always willing to help. My thinking is, it would be also good to see only packages which come on installation CD for each version of Ubuntu, so translation teams can see what is missing in initial installation of system. This is already done, although in a different way. Templates from the default installation (and which are shown in the UI) are at the top of the list, so that translators know that they can focus on them first. On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority% 20policy you can see the criteria followed for ordering the templates. You can also download the priorities list at the end of the section, which shows the priority and the classification we've made for each package. Kind regards Laco Thanks! Regards, David. [1] https://dev.launchpad.net/RoadMap [2] https://dev.launchpad.net/ [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com signature.asc Description: Això és una part d'un missatge signada digitalment -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
În data de Jo, 21-01-2010 la 18:48 +, Laco Gubík a scris: Hi, That's great work, however I was wondering whether it is possible to see separately packages related to Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. You can try this dirty hack: http://l10n.ubuntu.tla.ro/karmic-report/ This is a temporary replacement and we can use it as a prototype for implementing this feature in Launchpad. Data is updated from staging... more than 1 week old. Hope we can get a 1 day delay data soon. Any help with UI mockups and ideas how to group templates is welcomed. Fell free to comment on the mailinglist. Right now I don't know exactly how the grouping feature should look like (from UI point of view) and what should be the logic for grouping templates (how can you tell if a template is in Ubuntu and not Kubuntu, beside Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc... what other groups can we have...) With the following upstream integration, maybe we will have the grouping login in Launchpad, so we only need to provide a good UI. Cheers! -- Adi Roiban -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
Hi David! Great thanks for this great work! It's what I was looking for! Best wishes Piotr Dnia 21 stycznia 2010 10:36 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com napisał(a): Hi all, I'd like to announce that the priorities of translation templates in Launchpad have now been set for Karmic according to the classification below: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%20policy This means that from now on templates which are considered more important to focus on for translation will be shown further up in the global list of Ubuntu templates. You can see the end result in the new ordering of templates here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic If you'd like to tweak any of the priorities (e.g. if you think a certain package should be given more or less priority and appear further up or down in the list), please let us know here and the Ubuntu Translations Coordinators [1] team will be able to quickly modify them if there is consensus. The next list of priorites to be set will be for Lucid, and then we can perhaps look at the previous releases. Regards, David. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTranslationsCoordinators -- David Planella Ubuntu Translations Coordinator david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com www.ubuntu.com -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic
În data de Jo, 21-01-2010 la 10:36 +0100, David Planella a scris: Hi all, I'd like to announce that the priorities of translation templates in Launchpad have now been set for Karmic according to the classification below: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%20policy -- Here is my list of templates I think could have their priority decreased: * gimp* - I think gimp and all its plugins are used by technical person who know english. I don't see my mother/grandmother using gimp. * compiz-plugins-* , while all the plugins are great, from the point of view of translations, I think they have little impact on the usability. The main compiz package could stay as it is enabled by default. * not sure about GGZ Gamin Zone template... but maybe people do play a lot of online games supporting ggz. Put them together with ggz-gtk-client * tracker - as far as I know it is no longer installed by default I will move them just above the bulk (around 600) KDE templates. -- Here is my list of templates I think could have their priority increades above the KDE bulk: * ubuntu-docs - they are installed by default and now they are around position 800. Except ubuntu-doc-serverguide (not sure if it still maintained) * cheese * pidgin, pidgin-libnotify - even if epiphany is the new client, I know many person still using pidgin * nautilus-cd-burner - a simple alternative to brasero * not sure about pessulus and sabayon - they are port of the main Gnome * pppconfig and pppoeconf - when NetworkManager have problems, this tools are often used. * gtk+ gtk+-properties ... don't know why it is at position 1200 * ibus-pinyin ... should this template be near the other ibus stuff? (Just asking) -- This should be a good start :) Comments, suggestions ? -- Adi Roiban -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators