Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
PAul, On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 23:49 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: Ignoring the fact that I have to open up a port on a desktop machine to the internet (which I'm not that keen on, even on Linux), I really can't leave myself open to the lack of control of my data transfer usage that bittorrent forces you into - not that in principle I object, just the practice. What do you mean by 'lack of control'? Just curious. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32c CPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:46:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote: and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice 28c. What can i install (tried and tested) in ubuntu that will accurately tell me the CPU temp. Something that can sit in a toolbar and constantly supply me with CPU temp info...anything?Thing is, its not Ubuntu telling you, its a desklet which er... may not be the most accurate. There isn't anything you can install on any OS thats accurate. About the best thing would be a utility from the manufacturer because they know the correct registers to read. The only surefire way is the finger test. Or a thermal pad if you can one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 07:38 +, STONE COLD wrote: i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32c CPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? Hard to say without some other way of checking the temperatures in some independent manner. Suggestions have been made! All I can say is that I believe the figures from the sensors command on my own system. But I've not independently verified them. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 08:54 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: so this is ok?reliable ? Hard to say without some other way of checking the temperatures in some independent manner. Suggestions have been made! Seriously. If its a desktop machine and you can touch the heatsink without fear of touching components on the board then just put your finger on the heatsink fairly low down close to the CPU. If its really 28degC you shouldn't hardly feel any heat at all. If its 60 it will feel quite hot. Just watch out for the fan, they can take great chunks out of your fingers if hit at the right place. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks like it's reading the same sensor twice?? For instance if I run 'sensors' I get 44c and 47c which I grok is ok Pete On 06/09/07, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32c CPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:46:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote: and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice 28c. What can i install (tried and tested) in ubuntu that will accurately tell me the CPU temp. Something that can sit in a toolbar and constantly supply me with CPU temp info...anything? Thing is, its not Ubuntu telling you, its a desklet which er... may not be the most accurate. There isn't anything you can install on any OS thats accurate. About the best thing would be a utility from the manufacturer because they know the correct registers to read. The only surefire way is the finger test. Or a thermal pad if you can one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!' RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
ok ...this is the next test il dohopefully il return with a full set of fingers :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:57:15 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 08:54 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: so this is ok?reliable ?Hard to say without some other way of checking the temperatures in some independent manner. Suggestions have been made! Seriously. If its a desktop machine and you can touch the heatsink without fear of touching components on the board then just put your finger on the heatsink fairly low down close to the CPU. If its really 28degC you shouldn't hardly feel any heat at all. If its 60 it will feel quite hot. Just watch out for the fan, they can take great chunks out of your fingers if hit at the right place. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
im sure both said CPU1 and CPU2...but ill check again. i might have misread in my haste! hmmm Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:58:51 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU tempshmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks like it's reading the same sensor twice?? For instance if I run 'sensors' I get 44c and 47c which I grok is ok Pete On 06/09/07, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32cCPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:46:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote: and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice 28c. What can i install (tried and tested) in ubuntu that will accurately tell me the CPU temp. Something that can sit in a toolbar and constantly supply me with CPU temp info...anything?Thing is, its not Ubuntu telling you, its a desklet which er... may not be the most accurate. There isn't anything you can install on any OS thats accurate. About the best thing would be a utility from the manufacturer because they know the correct registers to read. The only surefire way is the finger test. Or a thermal pad if you can one. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/[EMAIL PROTECTED]://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ukhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- 'In letters of gold, on a snow-white kite, I will write I Love You! And send it soaring high above you, for all to read!'RIP Billy M 1957-1997 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
** Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-06 08:33]: On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 23:49 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: Ignoring the fact that I have to open up a port on a desktop machine to the internet (which I'm not that keen on, even on Linux), I really can't leave myself open to the lack of control of my data transfer usage that bittorrent forces you into - not that in principle I object, just the practice. What do you mean by 'lack of control'? Just curious. ** end quote [Tony Arnold] When I first looked into Bittorrent you could limit the amount of bandwidth it used, but not the amount of data transferred. I guess by limiting one you do have some element of control over the other, but not a lot. Also, from my first experiments, until you've shared a decent amount of files you don't get anywhere near the speed of download that you get with a straight download of a half decent server. I think my first attempt was with Debian, although I could be wrong. I set things up to download an ISO of around the 600M ish mark and left it over night. The initial speed estimated a download time of around 4 days, but I assumed that this would improve as things progressed and I was sharing out also. When I returned to it some 12 hours later it had downloaded around 25M and had improved the estimate to about a day and a half. That seemed to imply that you only managed to get a good download speed if you left your connection open 24/7 for others to use, and after a few days or weeks you would start to be seen as a good seed and hence get improved download speeds. I've just found that Opera seems to have a bittorrent client built in, so I'm going to experiment by opening up the required port, although it'll take a bit of configuration on my routers and firewalls to get it through to me now - not such a simple network setup as I used to have. -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BitTorrent (was: Re: For all you BSG fans out there!)
Paul, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 10:38 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: What do you mean by 'lack of control'? Just curious. ** end quote [Tony Arnold] When I first looked into Bittorrent you could limit the amount of bandwidth it used, but not the amount of data transferred. I guess by limiting one you do have some element of control over the other, but not a lot. Also, from my first experiments, until you've shared a decent amount of files you don't get anywhere near the speed of download that you get with a straight download of a half decent server. I think my first attempt was with Debian, although I could be wrong. I set things up to download an ISO of around the 600M ish mark and left it over night. The initial speed estimated a download time of around 4 days, but I assumed that this would improve as things progressed and I was sharing out also. When I returned to it some 12 hours later it had downloaded around 25M and had improved the estimate to about a day and a half. That seemed to imply that you only managed to get a good download speed if you left your connection open 24/7 for others to use, and after a few days or weeks you would start to be seen as a good seed and hence get improved download speeds. My experience has been better than that. Certainly at work, I've got very good download speeds, but at home it has been pathetic. I discovered my ISP (Pipex) throttles BitTorrent to about 20KB/s whereas a full HTTP download will go at full speed. I think there may be more to it than just whether you are a good seed or not! I've just found that Opera seems to have a bittorrent client built in, so I'm going to experiment by opening up the required port, although it'll take a bit of configuration on my routers and firewalls to get it through to me now - not such a simple network setup as I used to have. Azureus is regarded as the dogs wotsits of BitTorrent clients. I use the Gnome BitTornado, but my requirements are fairly simple (i.e., downloading an ISO images of Ubuntu!) Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BitTorrent (was: Re: For all you BSG fans out there!)
** Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-06 11:08]: On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 10:38 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: What do you mean by 'lack of control'? Just curious. ** end quote [Tony Arnold] When I first looked into Bittorrent you could limit the amount of bandwidth it used, but not the amount of data transferred. I guess by limiting one you do have some element of control over the other, but not a lot. Also, from my first experiments, until you've shared a decent amount of files you don't get anywhere near the speed of download that you get with a straight download of a half decent server. I think my first attempt was with Debian, although I could be wrong. I set things up to download an ISO of around the 600M ish mark and left it over night. The initial speed estimated a download time of around 4 days, but I assumed that this would improve as things progressed and I was sharing out also. When I returned to it some 12 hours later it had downloaded around 25M and had improved the estimate to about a day and a half. That seemed to imply that you only managed to get a good download speed if you left your connection open 24/7 for others to use, and after a few days or weeks you would start to be seen as a good seed and hence get improved download speeds. My experience has been better than that. Certainly at work, I've got very good download speeds, but at home it has been pathetic. I discovered my ISP (Pipex) throttles BitTorrent to about 20KB/s whereas a full HTTP download will go at full speed. I think there may be more to it than just whether you are a good seed or not! There probably is, and I'd forgotten about throttling. I was with Nildram at the time, and I think this was before Pipex took them over. Things started going down hill fast for Nildram after Pipex took them on, and now Tiscali are in the picture I am quite glad that I jumped ship a few months ago. Although there's two stages to this process. Stage one is moving to another ISP, and stage two is stopping your previous ISP from charging you. So far, about 4 months down the line I still haven't managed stage two, and it is amazing the lack of control you have in stopping a company taking money from you these days! Nildram have also told me that I shouldn't take anything I'm told verbally over the phone as fact (i.e. going to happen) until I have it in writing, which seem poor customer service to me, particularly when one of the things they are telling me verbally (over the phone) is that they will confirm things in writing! Anyway, that's another issue altogether. The throttling issue does seem to confirm that only providing something via BitTorrent cuts a good number of people off from the download though. I've just found that Opera seems to have a bittorrent client built in, so I'm going to experiment by opening up the required port, although it'll take a bit of configuration on my routers and firewalls to get it through to me now - not such a simple network setup as I used to have. Azureus is regarded as the dogs wotsits of BitTorrent clients. I use the Gnome BitTornado, but my requirements are fairly simple (i.e., downloading an ISO images of Ubuntu!) I moved on to Jigdo for my Debian downloads, which saved a good deal of downloading when ISOs were refreshed. I've not looked into whether you can do this now I've started using Ubuntu though. ** end quote [Tony Arnold] -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
How do i get to this server of yurs? i want a copy too :) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:39:08 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there! Ignoring the fact that I have to open up a port on a desktop machine tothe internet (which I'm not that keen on, even on Linux), I really can'tleave myself open to the lack of control of my data transfer usage thatbittorrent forces you into - not that in principle I object, just thepractice.Tutututut !!! I'll put a copy up on my server for you all to download ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
The torrents fine if a little slow - and the more people downloading the faster it will get... ;) Pete Yeah, it is - the game's pretty new and not really finished yet so it's kinda just getting started. I've started downloading the torrent to my server though, so if you connect use this torrrent http://homepage.ntlworld.com/karajorma/Misc-Downloads/BtRLDemo-Linux.torrent (it's the first one on the download list at their homepage) you should get a better download speed) On 06/09/07, STONE COLD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do i get to this server of yurs? i want a copy too :) I haven't finished dl'ing it to the server yet, but I'll post a link back to this thread when I've got it. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop problems
On 9/5/07, Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:39:21 +0100 Keith Bowerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a look at the .gnome 2 directory although I don't really know what I'm looking for. Any other advice would be more than welcome! Quick way to see if the problem is in the .gnome2 directory: move it. Rename it to something else and try logging in. This will revert anything you've changed in this dir to their defaults and if it clears the problem then you can put the contents back bit by bit to identify what was actually causing the problem. If that doesn't help try moving some of the other ~/.* things elsewhere. A quick look gives .nautilus .metacity .gnome .gnome2_private .cups .gtkrc* .gconf and possibly more. Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com If I were to ask you to dance naked for me, would your answer be the same as to this question? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ I just moved .* out to a different directory, and still no difference. ~/.xsession-errors showed up some clues, Keith maybe you could take a look at this file? Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
In my experience, there are too many MCSE graduates who don't even know what dual booting is! I recently did a Cisco course with with 3 guys (all with MCSE) that didn't even understand the basics of IP sub-netting etc... and yet still passed the course!!! Am i the only one who thinks this, or is it a linux geek prerequisite? My question is, when you are looking for a junior to join a team - where do you find one that actually knows what they're talking about, without getting a million and one applications that would waste your time in an interview. I know this isn't a recruitment mailing list (sorry) but I'm looking for a first jobber in London (ubuntu, php, mysql), (20-22k). If anyone is interested or knows of anyone, please drop me an email! Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above, i would love to hear it! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
Michael Holloway wrote: Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above, i would love to hear it! Go straight to the source: As a new feature, we are beginning to list Ubuntu related job opportunities offered by employers other than Canonical. If you are an employer offering Ubuntu related work, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu.com/employment HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
I'm interested, but currently doing a placement year then got another year at uni (comp sci at Manchester). If you dont mind waiting until 2009 drop me an e-mail and i'l forward my CV :-) Regards, PS Your not the only one with this problem. Most companies are having problems recruiting grads (esp in IT). There are something like 100 grads to a job but employers are still having trouble filling positions because 99.99% of those grads are rubbish. On 06/09/07, John Levin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Holloway wrote: Additionally, if anyone knows of good recruitment methods for the above, i would love to hear it! Go straight to the source: As a new feature, we are beginning to list Ubuntu related job opportunities offered by employers other than Canonical. If you are an employer offering Ubuntu related work, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu.com/employment HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BitTorrent (was: Re: For all you BSG fans out there!)
Hi Paul, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 11:56 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: I moved on to Jigdo for my Debian downloads, which saved a good deal of downloading when ISOs were refreshed. I've not looked into whether you can do this now I've started using Ubuntu though. http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.jigdo http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-amd64.jigdo etc.. :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
Hi Paul, On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 23:49 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: Ignoring the fact that I have to open up a port on a desktop machine to the internet (which I'm not that keen on, even on Linux), No you don't. You _can_ if you want, but it will work fine without opening a port. I have various machines on my home LAN use bittorrent and none of them usually have ports forwarded. When I am in a giving mood and want to seed something I may open a port, but not always. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BitTorrent (was: Re: For all you BSG fans out there!)
** Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-06 13:40]: On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 11:56 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: I moved on to Jigdo for my Debian downloads, which saved a good deal of downloading when ISOs were refreshed. I've not looked into whether you can do this now I've started using Ubuntu though. http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.jigdo http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-amd64.jigdo etc.. ** end quote [Alan Pope] I thought it should be out there somewhere, but as I said, I hadn't looked yet - thanks for that though, saves me a little time :) -- Paul Tansom | Aptanet Ltd. | http://www.aptanet.com/ | 023 9238 0001 == Registered in England | Company No: 4905028 | Registered Office: Crawford House, Hambledon Road, Denmead, Waterlooville, Hants, PO7 6NU -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop problems
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 15:11 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote: Quick way to see if the problem is in the .gnome2 directory: move it. Rename it to something else and try logging in. This will revert anything you've changed in this dir to their defaults and if it clears the problem then you can put the contents back bit by bit to identify what was actually causing the problem. Thanks Robert, I renamed .gnome2 and everything is back to normal. I shall shortly be touring France whilst the World Cup is on (by coincidence) and will then upgrade to Gutsy when it's officially released, so I'm going to leave things exactly as they are until then! Thanks again Keith. -- Keith Bowerman, Prestwood, south Staffordshire, England. Using Ubuntu 7.04 on a Linux only machine. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
Pete Stean wrote: hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks like it's reading the same sensor twice?? For instance if I run 'sensors' I get 44c and 47c which I grok is ok Pete If it's an dual core Athlon 64 X2 5000+ then surely CPU1 will be the first core and CPU2 will be the second core? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps
Hi Rob, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 18:33 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: Pete Stean wrote: hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks like it's reading the same sensor twice?? For instance if I run 'sensors' I get 44c and 47c which I grok is ok Pete If it's an dual core Athlon 64 X2 5000+ then surely CPU1 will be the first core and CPU2 will be the second core? I'd be very surprised if there were two sensors on the die, and if there were, they'd surely read the same. My dual core intel laptop has one sensor only. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] For all you BSG fans out there!
As promised - here's a link to download the game: Nowt special, I just quickly installed a webserver onto my vps, so I don't know how quick it'll be. I'll leave it up a few days for those that want to use it. http://server.justuber.com/ Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] AMD vs Intel multicore, was: CPU temps
Hi Rob, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 22:04 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: AMD fanboyism Ahh I'm surprised, I thought the Intel Dual Core chips were just two single core CPU's glued together :-)/AMD fanboyism* Hmm. Personally I don't give a monkeys what manufacturer it is. Manufacturer of CPU was not anywhere near top on my list when I bought this laptop. I was more interested in making sure I had supported open hardware which this ones has. I really don't know what the benefit of AMD over Intel is (or vice versa), please enlighten me :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
However, realise that programming skill is only PART of what a typical employer is looking for - ability to work as part of a team, rather than adopt a primadona attitude. If everyone else in the organisation wears suits, don't expect to show up in jeans a T-shirt... on the flip side, if everyone is wearing polo shirts and chinos, don't be the only one in a 3-piece suit :-) Wearing a suit doesn't make you a suit, and if you claim that wearing a suit stifles creativity, consider that Einstein and Money seems to do quite well in them. Second that. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] AMD vs Intel multicore, was: CPU temps
Hi Mark, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 22:18 +0100, Mark Jose wrote: I really don't know what the benefit of AMD over Intel is (or vice versa), please enlighten me :) Alan would also like to know - Vi or Emacs Gnome or KDE Haha. Seriously, I'm not trolling, I have no clue about the difference between Intel and AMD stuff. And it's nano and GNOME BTW :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] AMD vs Intel multicore, was: CPU temps
Alan At present the main difference between Intel's and AND's multi core processors are the way the cores speak to one another and the way they deal with cached CPU memory. AMD has the edge at present, but it is anticipated that Intel will shortly be launching a new chip family to mirror AMDs intercore bus technology. Future development is anticipated now to aim towards more multicore processing power as the maximum clock speed for both companies designs are just about at limit - this being just over 3 GHz . So after this explanation the real answer is not a lot as developments by both manufacturers keep on leap frogging one another. A good example of this leap frogging is the current quad core processors from Sun and Intel vs the new Barcelona chip from AMD due to be launched in late October. Sun's got it on thread stability, Intel's got it on speed, and AMd'll apparently knock them both out of the ring with it's offering. HTH E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 06 September 2007 22:16 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] AMD vs Intel multicore, was: CPU temps Hi Rob, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 22:04 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: AMD fanboyism Ahh I'm surprised, I thought the Intel Dual Core chips were just two single core CPU's glued together :-)/AMD fanboyism* Hmm. Personally I don't give a monkeys what manufacturer it is. Manufacturer of CPU was not anywhere near top on my list when I bought this laptop. I was more interested in making sure I had supported open hardware which this ones has. I really don't know what the benefit of AMD over Intel is (or vice versa), please enlighten me :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Where to find good labour
I can certainly relate to the hardship of breaking into the IT industry, I personally am not qualified to any sort of recognisable level in IT specific qualifications/certifications but on the other hand i am far more knowledgable than 90% of people i know with degrees in IT related subjects. I think a lot of people tend to look at IT as an easy way to make money in a job instead of actually being interested in the work involved whereas I think the best IT job candidates are people like myself who enjoy the challenge of discovering how things work and making them better ( adapt, improve, overcome ) . Anyway just my 2 cents. Regards Rhys -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
