Re: [ubuntu-uk] edubuntu

2007-11-15 Thread Dave Morley

On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 21:27 +, norman wrote:
 Has anybody here installed Edubuntu, please and, if so, did you have any
 problems? I tried this evening and everything went well until I came to
 type in names and so forth. Instead of appearing in English everything I
 had typed came in what looked like Arabic. Nothing in life runs
 smoothly.
 
 Norman
 
 
I'm part of the Iso-testing team I install Edubuntu about 2 dozen times
and never had this issue :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-15 Thread Michael Holloway
Hi

I would tend to stick to the Ubuntu laptops with Dell, but in most cases
you are pretty good with any of the brands. I personally use (K)Ubuntu
on a Dell Latitude and a Toshiba (cant remember which one, about 1 year
old). The very first thing you need to look at is the Wireless card -
check that it is compatible... second thing it the graphics card. Nvidia
is well supported, and ATI is supposed to be but i have had problems
with them. Intel is also sometimes dodgy. Other than that you are pretty
much clear to go with anything (in my opinion).

cheers,
Michael


On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 23:26 +, Russell Green wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 I'm in the process of buying a new laptop for when I'm not at home, it
 will
 ofcouse be running ubuntu.I have a price range of 500 GBP and body got
 any
 suggestions or any advice or any laptops they would recommend.I don't
 travel
 very much so weight and things like that isn't important.I'm just
 trying to
 get as powerful a laptop I can for that kind of price.
 
 Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-15 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 07:54 +, Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 
 On 14/11/2007, Russell Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 I'm in the process of buying a new laptop for when I'm not at
 home, it will
 ofcouse be running ubuntu.I have a price range of 500 GBP and
 body got any
 suggestions or any advice or any laptops they would
 recommend.I don't travel
 very much so weight and things like that isn't important.I'm
 just trying to
 get as powerful a laptop I can for that kind of price.
 
 Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Russell
 
 Hi, have a look at some of the Dell laptops, I'm using one of those
 and they are a sound piece of hardware.
 
 They're all at
 http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=ukamp;l=enamp;s=gen
 

I'll second that, I purchased an Inspiron 6400n about a month ago, with
Ubuntu Feisty pre-installed.

The spec is as follows:

Inspiron 6400 N-Series Dual Core Processor T2080 (1.73 GHz 533 MHz FSB 1
MB L2 cache)
Wide Sreen 15.4 WXGA (1280x800) Display with TrueLife
Memory Dual-Channel 1024MB (2x512) 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Hard Drive 80GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
DVD+/-RW (Read/Write) 8X Fixed Internal
Battery Primary 9 cell 85W/HR LI-ION
Graphics Card Intel Media Accelerator 950 Up to 256MB of shared Memory
for N-Series with TV and S-Video Output (supports Compiz)
UK Modem Cable and Adapter Internal V.92 Data, Fax, Voice Functions
Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Card (for Dual Core
Processor)
UK/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY)

All for £464.12 including VAT and Delivery

The only issue I've had so far is with the S-Video out on the graphics
card (not very important to me really) and my only complaint is that it
doesn't have bluetooth built in.

The battery life is excellent (I'm off to swindon from Kent by coach
today and the battery should last me the whole 6 hours of coach travel
including the 1hr 10m stopover at Victoria today and on Sunday night on
my way home!).  It still amazes me that the battery can be showing as
10% when there's 2hrs left!

Hope this is of some help,

Matt.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing RealPlayer in Gutsy (Re: RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy)

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mac,

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 06:38 +, Mac wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
 big snip
  So the line in sources.list would be:-
  
  deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner
 
 Al  The 7.10 Release Notes say
 
 deb http://archive.canonical.com/ gutsy partner
 
 Which is right?  Or are they both right, so it doesn't matter?
 

Try each and see what happens?

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Michael Holloway
Anyone have any idea what to do when sshd has died on your server? I
mean without rebooting...

I have a server in a remote location, i can't connect with ssh, but
other services (VMware server, apache2) are still running and i can
connect to them. I also can connect through ssh to its VM guests. Any
one know of a way to get in and restart sshd?

I don't really want to restart it because it takes 10 minuets to boot
and start all the VM's, and they are in use.

Any help would be great!





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Sean Miller
In essence your issue is that you have no way to get to the command line?
So you don't have a console you can run commands from?

Obviously if you can run commands sudo /etc/init.d/ssh would probably do
it, but not really quite sure how you'd restart a daemon without server
access...

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[ubuntu-uk] Children DVD (Windows compatible)

2007-11-15 Thread Pascal Khoury
Hi Guys

I couldn't run a couple of children DVDs (Disney and Baby Einstein) with the 
Totem Movie Player 2.20

Is there a piece of software I could use to view windows compatible movies  
games?

Many Thanks
Pascal





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Children DVD (Windows compatible)

2007-11-15 Thread Daniel Lamb
You should make sure that libdvd is installed follow this guide:

http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/14/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-ubuntu-510
-6061-610/

 

 

Regards,

Daniel

 

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Hi Guys

I couldn't run a couple of children DVDs (Disney and Baby Einstein) with the
Totem Movie Player 2.20

Is there a piece of software I could use to view windows compatible movies 
games?

Many Thanks
Pascal

 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sharing files- Gutsy2Xbox

2007-11-15 Thread Steve Flynn
On Nov 15, 2007 2:33 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have an xbox which ive connected to my media centre (in another room).

 How can i set up file sharing on this. Ive tried the sharing file option in
 the menu but for some reason it cannot be saved. i click on share and then
 ok...but when i go back in it will have disappeared!

 so how can i share files so i can play it through my XBC?

old xbox or 360?

If it's an older one, is it modded and running XBMC? If so, which
version of XBMC? My xbox mounts my PC's drives using SMB and it works
perfectly.

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[ubuntu-uk] sharing files- Gutsy2Xbox

2007-11-15 Thread Javad Ayaz
I have an xbox which ive connected to my media centre (in another room).

How can i set up file sharing on this. Ive tried the sharing file option in
the menu but for some reason it cannot be saved. i click on share and then
ok...but when i go back in it will have disappeared!

so how can i share files so i can play it through my XBC?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] edubuntu

2007-11-15 Thread Alistair Crust
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:00 +, andylockran wrote:
 Norman,
 
 I _really_ like edubuntu so much that it's become my choice for the desktop 
 at home.  It was great fun to have friends at uni come with their XP laptops 
 complaining about their speed - and set them up to boot off their network 
 cards onto my edubuntu server.
 
 That's only a small part of it.  (I find the interactive periodic table far 
 too exciting) - I wish I'd had something like that when I was at school.
 
 Enjoy it!

803 Pupils here enjoy it (although we don't use a true edubuntu server,
we use just use ubuntu + ltsp4.2 + extra packages installed by
edubuntu), and thanks to shipit.edubuntu.org and shipit.ubuntu.com the
school library is regularly giving away *ubuntu cd for the masses.

even new laptops get xp/vista replaced by an edubuntu workstation.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Michael Holloway
Hi 

If by that you mean using a console cable plugged directly into the
server (from a laptop or something) then no. 
If that's not what you mean, please elaborate, as i would be interested
in a backup remote administration method. 

I've just been thinking that i should maybe install vncserver
(firewalled to my ip address, i know vnc has some security issues) as a
backup, because you can get a shell through that. Pitty i didn't think
of it earlier!

Michael


On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:48 +, Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Michael,
 
 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 13:45 +, Michael Holloway wrote:
  Anyone have any idea what to do when sshd has died on your server? I
  mean without rebooting...
  
 
 Serial console access is my second method of access to the server. I'm
 guessing that's not an option here?
 
 Cheers,
 Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Kris Marsh
On Nov 15, 2007 3:48 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Michael,

 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:33 +, Michael Holloway wrote:
  If by that you mean using a console cable plugged directly into the
  server (from a laptop or something) then no.

 Yes, mine is hosted in a datacentre where they provide ssh-to-serial
 access so that it's possible to administer the server even when there
 are network/ssh issues such as this.

 I'd recommend this in the future for you as it gets you out of a number
 of holes.

 Cheers,
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Also, some servers have a built in ILO (Integrated Lights-Out -
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/management/ilo/index.html).

Essentially, it's a separate IP address (sometimes the same IP,
different port) that you can use even if the PC is turned off. You
connect to it, and it gives you a java applet which shows you a
virtual console, in the same way that VMware would.

This may even be superior than ssh-to-serial, in that it can help you
even if the kernel crashes, machine was turned off, etc.

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[ubuntu-uk] XBC related question!

2007-11-15 Thread Javad Ayaz
Just wondering if anyone knew of an easy way i could update my XBC which is
connected to my Gutsy running pc?

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sharing files- Gutsy2Xbox

2007-11-15 Thread Steve Flynn
On Nov 15, 2007 3:17 PM, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes its the older xbox..it has been hardmodded and it does indeed run
 xbmc...sorry but i dont know which version its using...but i got my xbox
 modded a few years ago so its prob an old one!!!

Sorry - I as not clear. I meant which version of XBMC are you using. I
can send you a config file which you can amend to suit your network IP
addresses which should mount your drives on your media centre but I'll
need to know which version of XBMC you are using first.


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[ubuntu-uk] Porting educational software, was serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Rob,

On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 22:14 +, Rob Beard wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
  I have ordered a couple of Asus Eee PCs, one for my wife to use and one
  for Sophie. I wanted to get something small and lightweight which runs
  normal software. I have just called the school to get a list of all
  the software that Sophie uses, and if it's any good I'll see if I can
  get it working under WINE, or get someone to write an alternative in
  python so everyone can benefit :)
 I'd certainly be interested in getting involved with porting some of the 
 old classic educational software to Linux.  I dare say some of the old 
 BBC Micro educational software would be simple enough to re-create.  I'd 
 like to have a go at porting Number Painter 
 (http://www.bioeddie.co.uk/Spectrum/pnumpainter.htm) which I remember 
 from school  have a go but I'm not very good with graphics.

I have received the list from the school and the first one I took a look
at has an online demo. It's called Smart Learning ICT (foundation).

http://www.smartlearning.co.uk/catalog/samples-eyict.php

The demo is a flash based effort. I wouldn't be surprised if the full
product was the same but with more content. If that's the case then of
course it will be easy to get it running under Linux either using the
non-free flash player, or test it under free players like gnash and
swfdec.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-15 Thread Rob Beard
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 07:54 +, Kris Douglas wrote:

 On 14/11/2007, Russell Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey guys,
 
 I'm in the process of buying a new laptop for when I'm not at
 home, it will
 ofcouse be running ubuntu.I have a price range of 500 GBP and
 body got any
 suggestions or any advice or any laptops they would
 recommend.I don't travel
 very much so weight and things like that isn't important.I'm
 just trying to
 get as powerful a laptop I can for that kind of price.
 
 Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Russell

 Hi, have a look at some of the Dell laptops, I'm using one of those
 and they are a sound piece of hardware.

 They're all at
 http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/default.aspx?c=ukamp;l=enamp;s=gen

 
 I'll second that, I purchased an Inspiron 6400n about a month ago, with
 Ubuntu Feisty pre-installed.
 
 The spec is as follows:
 
 Inspiron 6400 N-Series Dual Core Processor T2080 (1.73 GHz 533 MHz FSB 1
 MB L2 cache)
 Wide Sreen 15.4 WXGA (1280x800) Display with TrueLife
 Memory Dual-Channel 1024MB (2x512) 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
 Hard Drive 80GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
 DVD+/-RW (Read/Write) 8X Fixed Internal
 Battery Primary 9 cell 85W/HR LI-ION
 Graphics Card Intel Media Accelerator 950 Up to 256MB of shared Memory
 for N-Series with TV and S-Video Output (supports Compiz)
 UK Modem Cable and Adapter Internal V.92 Data, Fax, Voice Functions
 Intel® Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Card (for Dual Core
 Processor)
 UK/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY)
 
 All for £464.12 including VAT and Delivery
 
 The only issue I've had so far is with the S-Video out on the graphics
 card (not very important to me really) and my only complaint is that it
 doesn't have bluetooth built in.
 
 The battery life is excellent (I'm off to swindon from Kent by coach
 today and the battery should last me the whole 6 hours of coach travel
 including the 1hr 10m stopover at Victoria today and on Sunday night on
 my way home!).  It still amazes me that the battery can be showing as
 10% when there's 2hrs left!
 
 Hope this is of some help,
 
 Matt.
 
 

That's a great battery life.  I'm lucky if I get 3 hours on my Dell laptop.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] edubuntu

2007-11-15 Thread Rob Beard
norman wrote:
 Yup, tried both the server and desktop versions and both seemed to work 
 okay for me.
 
 Now that I have had a nights sleep and the little one has gone off to
 school I will try again. It is quite possible that I failed to check
 some language box or other so I will try to be alert. Incidentally, what
 I saw of Edubuntu impressed me a lot.
 
 Norman
 
 

I was impressed too after having a play with Edubuntu Server.  I was 
really amazed how well it all worked.  I've previously played with LTSP 
on Debian and I couldn't get the sound working.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Rob Beard
norman wrote:
  snip 
 
 
 I've found that educational games are a mixed bag (I have three 
 daughters aged 7, 5 and 18 months).  I have one set of educational 
 programs called something like 'PC Click and Learn'  which is created 
 using some Macromedia package (not Flash or Shockwave, I think it's 
 Authorware or something like that).  These programs wouldn't work under 
 Wine.  I got sound but no graphics.

 On the other hand I have a Reader Rabbit Keystage CD from about 
 1999/2000 and that works well (apart from no music unless I setup Timidity).

 Would it not be possible to install something like VirtualBox and then 
 run Windows 98 or XP on top of that, or as mentioned before, dual boot 
 XP and Ubuntu?
 
 We will dual boot as the most flexible.
 Maybe you could give her a few copies of The OpenEducationDisc to give 
 out to her friends as Christmas presents?  They could all then get to 
 grips with things like TuxPaint, TuxTyping and TuxMath (actually, I'm 
 not sure if they're all on there, I've been working on a custom branded 
 OpenDisc of my own which I'm going to distribute in my local area).
 
 What a community spirited thing to do and one which I am sure will be
 welcomed.
 
 Norman
 

:-) well I can't program very well so I thought it might be a way of 
giving back to the community (and most of the work is done so it's a 
case of adding things and changing a bit of HTML code which I can 
manage).  Even if I only do copies for my kids to give to their friends 
at school and in the street it's a start.

Rob



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Sean Miller
You could always schedule a cron job to restart the sshd every 30 minutes,
if your server is a real worry...

I don't believe killing the daemon aborts active sessions, so it's a fairly
low risk strategy

Odd to have to do it, tho... :-o

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Michael Holloway
I thought about that... thing is, i have no idea why it has stopped. Its
has never happened to me before in 3-4 years of having remote servers,
so i wouldn't expect to need a cron job. I think having a cron job is
paranoia but then sometimes things do go wrong!!! And of course it
still doesn't help me right now cos i cant get in to set the job :)

I'm going to the datacentre next week to install a new server anyway, so
ill just put up with it till then...


On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 17:22 +, Sean Miller wrote:
 You could always schedule a cron job to restart the sshd every 30
 minutes, if your server is a real worry...
 
 I don't believe killing the daemon aborts active sessions, so it's a
 fairly low risk strategy
 
 Odd to have to do it, tho... :-o
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sharing files- Gutsy2Xbox

2007-11-15 Thread Rob Beard
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 I have an xbox which ive connected to my media centre (in another room).
  
 How can i set up file sharing on this. Ive tried the sharing file option 
 in the menu but for some reason it cannot be saved. i click on share 
 and then ok...but when i go back in it will have disappeared!
  
 so how can i share files so i can play it through my XBC?
  
  
 Regards
 Javad
 

Okay, for a start, what version of the XBOX is it?  Is it an original 
XBOX or an XBOX 360?

Not sure about the XBOX360 as I haven't got one, but if you have an 
original XBOX then you'll need either a mod chip installed or a 
soft-mod.  On the original XBOX, once it's modified to run other 
software you can install XBOX Media Centre and then get it to connect to 
SAMBA shares or FTP shares on your Linux box.

I'm not sure if I should go into how to mod an XBOX on this list as 1) 
it's off topic and 2) Microsoft might not approve. There are fairly good 
guides on the internet.  Just do a Google search for XBOX Scene which is 
a site dedicated to all things XBOX and have tutorials on how to do things.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Porting educational software, was serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Rob,
 
 On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 22:14 +, Rob Beard wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
 I have ordered a couple of Asus Eee PCs, one for my wife to use and one
 for Sophie. I wanted to get something small and lightweight which runs
 normal software. I have just called the school to get a list of all
 the software that Sophie uses, and if it's any good I'll see if I can
 get it working under WINE, or get someone to write an alternative in
 python so everyone can benefit :)
 I'd certainly be interested in getting involved with porting some of the 
 old classic educational software to Linux.  I dare say some of the old 
 BBC Micro educational software would be simple enough to re-create.  I'd 
 like to have a go at porting Number Painter 
 (http://www.bioeddie.co.uk/Spectrum/pnumpainter.htm) which I remember 
 from school  have a go but I'm not very good with graphics.
 
 I have received the list from the school and the first one I took a look
 at has an online demo. It's called Smart Learning ICT (foundation).
 
 http://www.smartlearning.co.uk/catalog/samples-eyict.php
 
 The demo is a flash based effort. I wouldn't be surprised if the full
 product was the same but with more content. If that's the case then of
 course it will be easy to get it running under Linux either using the
 non-free flash player, or test it under free players like gnash and
 swfdec.
 
 Cheers,
 Al.

At least Flash and Java are multi platform.  I was talking to my other 
half about education games from when we were younger (when the BBC Micro 
was in just about every school) and she mentioned a game with a raven. 
Turns out it's Granny's Garden.  I did a google search and they still 
make it for Windows and Mac!  Not sure if they could port it to Linux 
(of course it won't be free, the Windows version is about £35 for one 
copy).  They're based in Barnstaple so the next time I'm up there I'll 
see if I can find out where they are.

I'm actually tempted to setup a BBC Micro emulator on my PC and let my 
kids have a play with the games that I used to play at school.  Maybe it 
might be an idea for a separate thread of what games everyone on the 
list can remember.  I vaguely remember one with a sunflower where if you 
got questions right (maths questions I think) the sunflower grew.

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Tom Bamford
Hi Norman,

As someone who tries to get everyone I help off Windows and onto Ubuntu, 
I've had to come up with some unusual solutions. For most needs 
excluding 3D graphics I'd recommend installing Windows 2000/XP on a 
virtual machine. If you switch off system restore and automatic updates 
in Windows it should run nice and fast even with 192 or 256MB of RAM 
allocated to it. The nice thing about virtualising it is that you can 
just close Windows like an ordinary application and it will be paused in 
the state you left it. You can run it in a window or in full screen 
mode, it really is almost seamless. Until recently I have been using 
VMware but recently I've switched to VirtualBox and I'd strongly 
recommend it over the former (although you will need the freeware closed 
source edition to get USB device sharing.

I don't recommend Wine for most purposes because despite enormous 
efforts it cannot give you a real Windows environment. Using Windows 
itself allows you to use nearly any software and it doesn't necessarily 
need a monster PC to cope. My laptop is a Pentium 4 1.4GHz with 768MB 
RAM and I run Windows XP and Win98 alongside each other under Ubuntu 
quite happily.

You can also utilise a virtual machine running in the background (say 
with the freeware VMware server) to have Windows applications running 
seamingly natively in Ubuntu using terminal services (remote desktop) 
and a couple of tricks - more info here: 
http://www.venturecake.com/10-minutes-to-run-every-windows-app-seamlessly-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
 
. A similar feat is supposedly possible using VirtualBox alone (article 
here: 
http://www.venturecake.com/virtualbox-15-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly/) 
but I haven't tried that yet.

With a bit of ingenuity and often some fiddling, you can get even the 
worst software to run and usually work better than on Windows alone.

Regards,
Tom


norman wrote:
 I am contemplating buying my 9 year old granddaughter a new PC for
 Christmas. Presently, she has a fairly old PC and has been using Windows
 both at home and at school. (I hear cries of shame). She is of course
 familiar with Ubuntu when she uses my machine and it would be my
 intention to wean her onto Ubuntu on her new machine. Where I need
 advice is in selecting the best way to enable her to join in with her
 classmates, if and when she may need to, with regard to such things as
 educational games and suchlike which do not play on Linux.

 I know of Wine and Crossover Office but neither of these appear to be
 what is needed. So, fellow Ubuntu users, what would you advise an old
 codger to do.

 Norman


   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] edubuntu

2007-11-15 Thread andylockran
Alistair,

I was at FLOSSiE at the Bolton TIC in 2006 and was really impressed by your 
work.  I've not noticed you on the list before - so here's a quick Well Done 
from a fan!

Andy

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:23:34 +, Alistair Crust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 14:00 +, andylockran wrote:
 Norman,

 I _really_ like edubuntu so much that it's become my choice for the
 desktop at home.  It was great fun to have friends at uni come with their
 XP laptops complaining about their speed - and set them up to boot off
 their network cards onto my edubuntu server.

 That's only a small part of it.  (I find the interactive periodic table
 far too exciting) - I wish I'd had something like that when I was at
 school.

 Enjoy it!
 
 803 Pupils here enjoy it (although we don't use a true edubuntu server,
 we use just use ubuntu + ltsp4.2 + extra packages installed by
 edubuntu), and thanks to shipit.edubuntu.org and shipit.ubuntu.com the
 school library is regularly giving away *ubuntu cd for the masses.
 
 even new laptops get xp/vista replaced by an edubuntu workstation.
 
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 TEL: 01754 61 (ext'852)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Children DVD (Windows compatible)

2007-11-15 Thread Kris Douglas
On 15/11/2007, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You should make sure that libdvd is installed follow this guide:


 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/14/how-to-enable-dvd-playback-ubuntu-510-6061-610/





 Regards,

 Daniel


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 Hi Guys

 I couldn't run a couple of children DVDs (Disney and Baby Einstein) with
 the Totem Movie Player 2.20

 Is there a piece of software I could use to view windows compatible movies
  games?

 Many Thanks
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[ubuntu-uk] What Intel Giveth, Microsoft Taketh Away

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
I was just passed this very interesting article. 

http://exo-blog.blogspot.com/2007/09/what-intel-giveth-microsoft-taketh-away.html

What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away.” Such has been the
conventional wisdom surrounding the Windows/Intel (“Wintel”) duopoly
since the early days of Windows 95. In practical terms, it means that
performance advancements on the hardware side are quickly consumed by
the ever-increasing complexity of the Windows/Office code base. Case in
point: Microsoft Office 2007 which, when deployed on Windows Vista,
consumes over 12x as much memory and nearly 3x as much processing power
as the version that graced PCs just 7 short years ago (Office 2000).

I'm not advocating that we sit and bitch about Microsoft, but think this
is a useful article to show Windows users as part of the why you might
want to consider Ubuntu arsenal.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] sshd died?

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Michael,

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:33 +, Michael Holloway wrote:
 If by that you mean using a console cable plugged directly into the
 server (from a laptop or something) then no. 

Yes, mine is hosted in a datacentre where they provide ssh-to-serial
access so that it's possible to administer the server even when there
are network/ssh issues such as this. 

I'd recommend this in the future for you as it gets you out of a number
of holes.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Want a £139 ubuntu box from Tescos? ?? Sorry, temporarily out of stock!

2007-11-15 Thread alan c
Rob Beard wrote:
 Rohan Omard wrote:
 Indeed, there are many pc's with windows mista also out of stock but it 
 is good to know that a least one of the two ubuntu boxes  have sold well 
 enough to create a temporary shortage! :D
 
 
 N3m3sis
 (aka Rohan O'mard)
 
 
 Well maybe ASDA might start selling the Everex $200 PC in their stores. 
   All these supermarkets love a good price war and they already sell 
 them in the WalMart stores (who own ASDA).

The low cost of the Walmart Everex PC is the obvious eye catching 
thing, however, the OS and its windowing environment is what also 
underpins the great viability of this level of PC in the mass market.

I tried a gOS live CD yesterday, and liked it so much I wanted to know 
more, and installed it. It is a master stroke on the everex PC from 
walmart. The OS is seriously pretty, attractive, and it is simple to 
use for most basic web stuff, with only a single sign on to google. It 
is almost as easy to use a kitchen toaster!

The low cost is a catalyst, but the gOS is - as they advertise - a 
real OS for the mass market of users out there.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-15 Thread Kris Douglas
On 15/11/2007, Russell Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:





 
   I'll second that, I purchased an Inspiron 6400n about a month ago,
  with
   Ubuntu Feisty pre-installed.
  
   The spec is as follows:
  
   Inspiron 6400 N-Series Dual Core Processor T2080 (1.73 GHz 533 MHz FSB
  1
   MB L2 cache)
   Wide Sreen 15.4 WXGA (1280x800) Display with TrueLife
   Memory Dual-Channel 1024MB (2x512) 533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
   Hard Drive 80GB Serial ATA (5400 RPM)
   DVD+/-RW (Read/Write) 8X Fixed Internal
   Battery Primary 9 cell 85W/HR LI-ION
   Graphics Card Intel Media Accelerator 950 Up to 256MB of shared Memory
 
   for N-Series with TV and S-Video Output (supports Compiz)
   UK Modem Cable and Adapter Internal V.92 Data, Fax, Voice Functions
   Intel(R) Pro Wireless 3945 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Card (for Dual Core
   Processor)
   UK/Irish Internal Keyboard (QWERTY)
  
   All for £464.12 including VAT and Delivery
  
   The only issue I've had so far is with the S-Video out on the graphics
   card (not very important to me really) and my only complaint is that
  it
   doesn't have bluetooth built in.
  
   The battery life is excellent (I'm off to swindon from Kent by coach
   today and the battery should last me the whole 6 hours of coach travel
   including the 1hr 10m stopover at Victoria today and on Sunday night
  on
   my way home!).  It still amazes me that the battery can be showing as
   10% when there's 2hrs left!
  
   Hope this is of some help,
  
   Matt.
  
  
 
  That's a great battery life.  I'm lucky if I get 3 hours on my Dell
  laptop.
 
  Rob
 
  The only thing that is putting me off the dell Ubuntu laptops is the
  processor, if they upgrade it to core 2 duo then my mind would be made
  up.I ain't very sure about the pentium dual-core.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] edubuntu

2007-11-15 Thread norman

 Yup, tried both the server and desktop versions and both seemed to work 
 okay for me.

Now that I have had a nights sleep and the little one has gone off to
school I will try again. It is quite possible that I failed to check
some language box or other so I will try to be alert. Incidentally, what
I saw of Edubuntu impressed me a lot.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] workplacement

2007-11-15 Thread tryo tas
cheers andy
that was the best email i got in ages.
shen

andylockran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this thread isn't dead 
(I've had a very long week and not really been checking my personal email 
address) - but I thought I'd give my two pennies worth.

Shen,
I first got involved with FLOSS on a voluntary do nothing but read basis by 
joining a few lists and just learning how the community worked by submerging 
myself in it.  I've not got a computing background whatsoever, I just spend a 
lot of my teenage years troubleshooting MS problems and doing the odd bit of 
hardware maintenance.  I never took IT past age 14 as it was just too simple - 
I got my best grade at school in IT though (100% in the course, with a letter 
home to my parents about my lack of effort).  It was an easy course, rather 
than me being some child prodigy though, unfortunately.

Ubuntustudio is a great distribution - I use it on my main PC at home and it's 
great fun to have such powerful tools at your fingertips for free.  I 
thoroughly recommend it.  However, if you're wanting to learn more about the 
computer and how to fix things, I'd recommend sticking with what you've got and 
trying to solve the problem.  Jumping around distributions to solve kernel 
panics is a bit like hitting a sledgehammer with a nut.  

You seem to have a good skillset on your C.V.  If you want to build a linux 
system from the ground up, I thoroughly recommend gentoo (providing you're 
using a fairly modern machine otherwise you'll spend half the time waiting for 
things to compile).  It taught me a fair bit about the basics underlying a 
GNU/Linux system.  I've also recently had a play with PCBSD (though I'm not a 
KDE fan so had to give that one a miss).  

If you do have access to multiple machines - use one as a test bed and just 
play and play and play with whatever you can find.  There's so much to learn 
(and so little time to do it).  My flatmate through University used to call my 
Linux geekery faffing - but breaking and fixing things is all part of the 
game.

The one OS that I've yet to use (and it's shocking that I've not got round to 
doing it yet) is Debian. I'm sure other people on this list could advise 
whether that would be a good system to play with (as it's what ubuntu is based 
on) yet it's a bit more.. industrial (I think that's the right word).

Lastly - support.  I don't want to assume anything (so forgive me if I'm 
oversimplifying things for you) - but mailing lists, and IRC are fantastic 
resources.  The other thing I've learnt is that RTFM is a very _very_ useful 
thing to do.  If you are tasked with using a package - rather than just install 
it and go for it, read the man pages.  It may take a little bit more of your 
time at the offset, but even the faintest memory can help solving a problem 
become so much easier.  Don't worry about taking it all in at once, but make 
sure you've at least scan read it before you do anything flying-solo.

Anyhow, sorry for the long email - but I like seeing new people working in 
FLOSS. 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:38:10 -0800 (PST), tryo tas  wrote:
 hi daniel,
 about abilities i think i learned to be patient while trying to make
 something out of the scratch pc's i found on the street.
 i've been studying at ELATT (east london advanced technology training) in
 hackney computer system maintenance (desktops building and repair) based on
 the Cisco course.we were logged into the netacademy website and finished
 that with Comptia A+ certification.at the moment i build my own audio pc
 and try to run it with Musix and Gentoo which gives me a proper 2.19 kernel
 panic.i'm installing now ubuntu studio with 2.20 kernel because feisty does
 the job well.
 i should know a bit more about scssi.i tried to get an old server (pentium
 75 Mhz)
 running with freebsd and connect 5 boxes with a hub.will pick that up soon
 again.
 at school we learned quite theoretically the stuff you need for the CCNA
 exam like configuring routers and switches via windows 2000 machines.via a
 good friend who helped me to install my first linux system on my pc
 (x-evian) i made the lucky jump into open source software which brings up
 the magic word of command line.i know a bit of vi,not much about developing
 and programming
 (just the structure of languages in generell).at the moment i'm studying
 music technology at lambeth college including digital electronics and
 mathematics.i'm reading the linux bible and try to get into the real stuff
 and get my linux machine from scratch.i want to learn open source
 developement as well to spread the very basics of free access to
 communication technology because i think that it is totally unacceptable to
 leave that over to people who make their own business out of it like the
 microsoft clan.
 you see i could do with some focussing from too generell blabla to some
 real world skills that's why i want to get involved.
 hope that helped a bit
 cheers
 shen
 
 Daniel 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] sharing files- Gutsy2Xbox

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Javad,

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 15:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 Yes its the older xbox..it has been hardmodded and it does indeed run
 xbmc...sorry but i dont know which version its using...but i got my
 xbox modded a few years ago so its prob an old one!!!
 

xbmc has an ftp server built in. You should be able to just ftp the new
files over. That's what I did a few weeks ago anyway. I have also set
mine to default to xmbc on boot now so it's the default dashboard.

I used filezilla to ftp the files over.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Buying A Laptop

2007-11-15 Thread Taufan Lubis
Dell supports Ubuntu.

Toshiba A200 series, Chipset 945, VGA Intel 950 (Sound card doesn't
work, so have to install ALSA)

Lenovo with Chipset 945 (X1300 still can't run compiz)

Acer, some types

Compaq V3000 series

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On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 23:26 +, Russell Green wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 I'm in the process of buying a new laptop for when I'm not at home, it
 will
 ofcouse be running ubuntu.I have a price range of 500 GBP and body got
 any
 suggestions or any advice or any laptops they would recommend.I don't
 travel
 very much so weight and things like that isn't important.I'm just
 trying to
 get as powerful a laptop I can for that kind of price.
 
 Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated. 
 
 Thanks,
 Russell
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Jim,

On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 08:44 +, Jim Kissel wrote:
   Should be here today.  Where did 
 you order your's from?  

RM. 

 If you or anyone you know are working on getting 
 Ubutnu running on the eeePC, please let me/the group know.
 

http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10006278o-2000331777b,00.htm
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=233t=427281last=3902234

I probably won't put Ubuntu on it initially, but leave the existing
software install for Sophie  Clare. 

Then maybe I'll buy the 10 version when it comes out next year for
myself :)

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] serious advice

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Kissel


Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Jim,
 
 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 08:44 +, Jim Kissel wrote:
   Should be here today.  Where did 
 you order your's from?  
 
 RM. 

Have they delivered?  If not have the given any indication of when they 
will deliver?  Why?  I've noticed eBuyer and Dabs are sold out.  Dabs 
shows Due in 3-4 weeks!

 
 If you or anyone you know are working on getting 
 Ubutnu running on the eeePC, please let me/the group know.

 
 http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,100567,10006278o-2000331777b,00.htm
 http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=233t=427281last=3902234
 
 I probably won't put Ubuntu on it initially, but leave the existing
 software install for Sophie  Clare. 
 
 Then maybe I'll buy the 10 version when it comes out next year for
 myself :)

I too would like a 10 version, though I'm not prepared to wait till the 
  next of forever to get my hands on one.  Dabs just delivered my 701 
Thursday afternoon.  My initial impression of the 701 is it much nicer 
than the Classmate.  Better (bigger) keyboard.  The case build quality 
seems better.

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