Re: [ubuntu-uk] Swindon school asks for ubuntu help

2008-12-02 Thread Andy Loughran
Alan,

I'm not in the Swindon area - but would be very interested to hear more
from this person.  I'm also not on the edubuntu lists - any chance you
can post this response to the list for me to pass on my details?

Regards,

Andy Loughran

alan c wrote:
> I see in the edubuntu users list that there is a request for initial 
> help from a school in Swindon - they are considering starting to use 
> ubuntu (edubuntu)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have also pointed them to this uk list, although anyone in this list 
> who is in th eSwindon area might like to be aware?
>
> [extract from edubuntu list]
>  >> I have talked to the schools
>  >> senior leaders and the network manager here and people are certainly
>  >> interested in the school clients/servers being switched to open 
> source
>  >> (for cost reasons initially). In fact, I'm slowly introducing the 
> idea
>  >> to staff and students already.
>  >>
>  >> The network manager and I would love to come by to meet up with 
> people
>  >> on this list to discuss feasibility. Can you let me know when the 
> next
>  >> such event is happening? We would need a fair bit of help getting
>  >> ourselves skilled up and we would be regular posters on this list.
> [end extract]
>   


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[ubuntu-uk] screensaver freezing

2008-12-02 Thread David King
I have just bought a Dell Inspiron 1525 with Ubuntu. It is actually for 
my girlfriend, her old laptop is about to stop working. It had Windows 
XP Pro, but I also installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a separate partition, 
however, that stopped working and she carried on with XP. I offered to 
buy her a new laptop, and she agreed to have it with Ubuntu, anything 
other than Vista.

Well, so far the laptop is working okay, except that when the 
screensaver is running, and I press a key to kill the screensaver, the 
whole thing just freezes. The screensaver image is frozen, and no key 
presses do anything. I have to press the power button to reset the 
laptop and reboot.

The screensaver is Helios. Running Ubuntu 8.04.1, with Gnome, standard 
Dell install with a few extra software programs, but no major changes to 
the system. I have updated Ubuntu online with the latest updates for 8.04.

I have changed to a different screensaver (SlideScreen) to stop the 
problem in case it is Helios. Also I changed the setting for Power 
Management to not switch off the screen (it was previously set to switch 
off after 40 minutes). I wonder if perhaps the more fancy screensavers 
are just too much for whatever graphics hardware is in the laptop?

David King

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice

2008-12-02 Thread Ian Pascoe
Gents

An interesting diversion to the original topic.

I keep a watch on http://linuxdevices.com and there's quite a few mini form
factor Atom based stuff coming through that although primarily aimed at the
embedded market, could be easily used to become a fairly "green"
workstation; in fact some are so targetted.

Now with Ubuntu also being ported across to the ARM architect, that could
certainly open up even more interesting configurations for those with a
tinkering whim.

Ian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard
Sent: 02 December 2008 16:20
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice


gav wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:46:54PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm considering an Atom Dual Core for my server (it's currently running
>> an Athlon 1400) although I'm not sure what to do after reading this
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-efficiency,2069.html
>
> The Atom seems to work fine for DVD playback, if that helps you judge on
> the video side of things, I use an external USB DVD on the machine.
>
> I've no interest in BluRay yet so I can't tell you how it handles that.
>

It's possible that a dual core Atom might be able to handle it, I doubt
without a HD compatible video card that it would be up to the job.

Sods law HD playback on the video card under Linux seems to be either
non-existent or in the very early stages.

Like everything though I don't doubt it'll happen eventually, not so
sure about FLOSS Bluray playback though.

> From that review, it looks like the chipset it holding the Atom back, 4W
> for the processor but 22W for the chipset seems backwards.  However that
> chipset is well supported under Linux, especially the hassle free, open
> driver 3D support.
>
>

Yeah it's a shame, I presume it takes a while to develop a chipset, I
guess Intel are probably working on addressing this.  What I'd like
though is to get hold of one of the new low power Athlons coupled with
the low power AMD chipset which is already available (AFAIK the CPU's
aren't readily available yet although the motherboards are in MicroATX
form factor).

Looks like these companies are finally starting to sit up and think
about developing more energy efficient solutions anyway which has to be
a good thing.

When I finally get around to building a MythTV box I'm hoping to put
some low power and low noise components in there (but possibly not an
Atom unless it's up to playing 720p video).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Rowson
>
> > So, long story short:
> >
> > 32 bit or 64 bit server, and 8.04 or 8.10?
>
> Do you want stable (8.04) or something a bit more recent (8.10) ?
>
> How much memory do you have? If you want to use anything more than 4GB
> RAM then you'll need the 64 bit version. For a server I'd probably go
> with 64 bit anyway, whereas for a desktop machine I'd probably go for
> the 32 bit version since I've had problems with the 64 bit version and
> it can have problems with certain apps like java and flash (being
> fixed I know).
>
>
Doesn't the Hardy server kernel have Physical Address Extensions support
enabled by default? That'd grant support for up to 64GB RAM on the 32 bit
version of Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Beard
Simon Wears wrote:
> Stability is more important for me. The machine currently has only 512mb 
> of RAM (stolen from my desktop) but I'm headed to the shop tomorrow to 
> pick up 1Gb or 2Gb of RAM.
> 

I'd say stick 32-bit on it unless that is you need to run a specific 
application that requires a 64-bit CPU?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Beard
Simon Wears wrote:
> I went down to MicroDirect earlier today, and bought myself a shiny new 
> Intel Quad Core Q6600, clocking at 2.4Ghz per core. I was so happy to be 
> finally replacing my 2.6Ghz Celeron (single core), which struggles to 
> even do 2+2 it seems. I got back into my flat, and replaced the CPU, 
> only to find out that although my motherboard supported Quad Core CPU's, 
> it seemed to support every one but the Q6600. Needless to say, I was 
> very unhappy to have wasted my money.
> 

Have you checked to see if there is a bios update available?  Might be 
worth having a look if you haven't already.  You never know.

> Now, I've put it into a MSI P965 Neo board (which hates linux when you 
> have both SATA and PATA drives plugged in) and it runs incredibly well. 
> My load average is 0.05, 0.06, 0.03. Big shock for me, I'm used to load 
> averages of 2.00+ ! Now, I'm going to install Ubuntu Server on this new 
> machine, and I was wondering what is recommended for this CPU. It's 
> 64-bit, so should I get the 64 bit server, or the 32 bit server? I seem 
> to recall reading that the 64 bit desktop is kinda buggy, but the 64 bit 
> server is fantastic.
> 

How much memory are you running in the server?

> Also, is their any significant difference in the 8.04 and 8.10 servers? 
> I'm more swaying towards the 8.04 Server, since its LTS, but if Intrepid 
> server is more awesomer then I'll go for that.
> 
> So, long story short:
> 
> 32 bit or 64 bit server, and 8.04 or 8.10?
> 
> Cheers, Simon.
> 

Well if it's over about 3.5GB memory in there it'll have to be 64-bit to 
be able to make use of it, otherwise I'd say 32-bit unless you have a 
good reason to go 64-bit.

I'm running Ubuntu Intrepid 64-Bit on my desktop and it runs fine. 
Hardy 64-bit was also fine before that. (My desktop has 4GB memory!).

Rob


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[ubuntu-uk] Thoughts on Songbird?

2008-12-02 Thread mac
Any thoughts on how Ubuntu plays with the 1.0 release of Songbird?

  http://getsongbird.com/

Mac


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Simon Wears
Stability is more important for me. The machine currently has only 512mb of
RAM (stolen from my desktop) but I'm headed to the shop tomorrow to pick up
1Gb or 2Gb of RAM.

2008/12/2 Lucy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 2008/12/2 Simon Wears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > So, long story short:
> >
> > 32 bit or 64 bit server, and 8.04 or 8.10?
>
> Do you want stable (8.04) or something a bit more recent (8.10) ?
>
> How much memory do you have? If you want to use anything more than 4GB
> RAM then you'll need the 64 bit version. For a server I'd probably go
> with 64 bit anyway, whereas for a desktop machine I'd probably go for
> the 32 bit version since I've had problems with the 64 bit version and
> it can have problems with certain apps like java and flash (being
> fixed I know).
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Lucy
2008/12/2 Simon Wears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So, long story short:
>
> 32 bit or 64 bit server, and 8.04 or 8.10?

Do you want stable (8.04) or something a bit more recent (8.10) ?

How much memory do you have? If you want to use anything more than 4GB
RAM then you'll need the 64 bit version. For a server I'd probably go
with 64 bit anyway, whereas for a desktop machine I'd probably go for
the 32 bit version since I've had problems with the 64 bit version and
it can have problems with certain apps like java and flash (being
fixed I know).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fosdem

2008-12-02 Thread Lucy
2008/12/2 John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Anyone on this list going to Fosdem next year?
>
> http://www.fosdem.org/2009/

I'm planning on going with Manchester Free Software.

Whereabouts in the country are you?

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Servers

2008-12-02 Thread Simon Wears
I went down to MicroDirect earlier today, and bought myself a shiny new
Intel Quad Core Q6600, clocking at 2.4Ghz per core. I was so happy to be
finally replacing my 2.6Ghz Celeron (single core), which struggles to even
do 2+2 it seems. I got back into my flat, and replaced the CPU, only to find
out that although my motherboard supported Quad Core CPU's, it seemed to
support every one but the Q6600. Needless to say, I was very unhappy to have
wasted my money.

Now, I've put it into a MSI P965 Neo board (which hates linux when you have
both SATA and PATA drives plugged in) and it runs incredibly well. My load
average is 0.05, 0.06, 0.03. Big shock for me, I'm used to load averages of
2.00+ ! Now, I'm going to install Ubuntu Server on this new machine, and I
was wondering what is recommended for this CPU. It's 64-bit, so should I get
the 64 bit server, or the 32 bit server? I seem to recall reading that the
64 bit desktop is kinda buggy, but the 64 bit server is fantastic.

Also, is their any significant difference in the 8.04 and 8.10 servers? I'm
more swaying towards the 8.04 Server, since its LTS, but if Intrepid server
is more awesomer then I'll go for that.

So, long story short:

32 bit or 64 bit server, and 8.04 or 8.10?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On 02/12/08 17:43, Andrew Nixon wrote:
> Apologies to all those I annoyed this morning - I didn't lock my mobile as I
> left for work and managed to walk 2 miles replying to the list. Maybe that
> will teach me to read my e-mails before i get out of bed..

It's a very well trained pocket you have there :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
Apologies to all those I annoyed this morning - I didn't lock my mobile as I
left for work and managed to walk 2 miles replying to the list. Maybe that
will teach me to read my e-mails before i get out of bed..
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Robert Flatters
It could be something to do with the iphone getting itself in a twist. I
think i have seen something similar some where?
Regards

Bob

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Bruce Beardall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yup,
>
> Andrew, may I suggest you check your settings either on your phone or with
> Gmail? We're getting multiples on this side.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> On 12/2/08, John Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Guys
>>
>> I did not sign up to get spammed with 24 emails for no real reason I
>> don't mind reading replies etc but not for no reason.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2008, at 08:08, "Andrew Nixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to
>> >>ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
>> >>
>> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body
>> >> 'help' to
>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is
>> >> more
>> >> specific
>> >> than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >>   1. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Seb Ward)
>> >>   2. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>> >>   3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>> >>   4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>> >>   5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>> >>   6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>> >>   7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>> >>   8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice

2008-12-02 Thread Rob Beard
gav wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:46:54PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm considering an Atom Dual Core for my server (it's currently running 
>> an Athlon 1400) although I'm not sure what to do after reading this 
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-efficiency,2069.html
> 
> The Atom seems to work fine for DVD playback, if that helps you judge on
> the video side of things, I use an external USB DVD on the machine.
> 
> I've no interest in BluRay yet so I can't tell you how it handles that.
> 

It's possible that a dual core Atom might be able to handle it, I doubt 
without a HD compatible video card that it would be up to the job.

Sods law HD playback on the video card under Linux seems to be either 
non-existent or in the very early stages.

Like everything though I don't doubt it'll happen eventually, not so 
sure about FLOSS Bluray playback though.

> From that review, it looks like the chipset it holding the Atom back, 4W
> for the processor but 22W for the chipset seems backwards.  However that
> chipset is well supported under Linux, especially the hassle free, open
> driver 3D support.
> 
> 

Yeah it's a shame, I presume it takes a while to develop a chipset, I 
guess Intel are probably working on addressing this.  What I'd like 
though is to get hold of one of the new low power Athlons coupled with 
the low power AMD chipset which is already available (AFAIK the CPU's 
aren't readily available yet although the motherboards are in MicroATX 
form factor).

Looks like these companies are finally starting to sit up and think 
about developing more energy efficient solutions anyway which has to be 
a good thing.

When I finally get around to building a MythTV box I'm hoping to put 
some low power and low noise components in there (but possibly not an 
Atom unless it's up to playing 720p video).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Bruce Beardall
Yup,

Andrew, may I suggest you check your settings either on your phone or with
Gmail? We're getting multiples on this side.

Cheers

Bruce



On 12/2/08, John Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Guys
>
> I did not sign up to get spammed with 24 emails for no real reason I
> don't mind reading replies etc but not for no reason.
>
> John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2 Dec 2008, at 08:08, "Andrew Nixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to
> >>ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
> >>
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> >> than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..."
> >>
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> >>
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> >>   2. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
> >>   3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
> >>   4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
> >>   5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
> >>   6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
> >>   7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
> >>   8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fosdem

2008-12-02 Thread Dave Walker
John Levin wrote:
> Anyone on this list going to Fosdem next year?
>
> http://www.fosdem.org/2009/
>
> John
>
>   
Hi John,

Yes :)

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[ubuntu-uk] Swindon school asks for ubuntu help

2008-12-02 Thread alan c
I see in the edubuntu users list that there is a request for initial 
help from a school in Swindon - they are considering starting to use 
ubuntu (edubuntu)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have also pointed them to this uk list, although anyone in this list 
who is in th eSwindon area might like to be aware?

[extract from edubuntu list]
 >> I have talked to the schools
 >> senior leaders and the network manager here and people are certainly
 >> interested in the school clients/servers being switched to open 
source
 >> (for cost reasons initially). In fact, I'm slowly introducing the 
idea
 >> to staff and students already.
 >>
 >> The network manager and I would love to come by to meet up with 
people
 >> on this list to discuss feasibility. Can you let me know when the 
next
 >> such event is happening? We would need a fair bit of help getting
 >> ourselves skilled up and we would be regular posters on this list.
[end extract]
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[ubuntu-uk] Fosdem

2008-12-02 Thread John Levin
Anyone on this list going to Fosdem next year?

http://www.fosdem.org/2009/

John

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread John Atkinson
Guys

I did not sign up to get spammed with 24 emails for no real reason I  
don't mind reading replies etc but not for no reason.

John

Sent from my iPhone

On 2 Dec 2008, at 08:08, "Andrew Nixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to
>>ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body  
>> 'help' to
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is  
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>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the
>> same
>> money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0,
>> it
>> rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure
>> I
>> got
>> good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've
>> always
>> liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
>> experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they
>> still
>> do.
>>
>> The

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>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the
> same
> money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0,
> it
> rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I
> got
> good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've
> always
> liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
> experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they
> still
> do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while
 ago,
 can't
>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the
> same
> money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0,
> it
> rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I
> got
> good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've
> always
> liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
> experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they
> still
> do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while
 ago,
 can't
>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

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>

 I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the
 same
 money
 built
 a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:

 Decent Abit mainboard
 AMD Athlon X2 4200+
 2GB Corsair standard stuff
 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0,
 it
 rocks)
 dual layer DVD-+RW
 19" wide HannsG monitor
 Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU

 It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I
 got
 good
 components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've
 always
 liked
 Abit
 motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
 experience.
 They
 used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they
 still
 do.

 The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.

>>>
>>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while
>>> ago,
>>> can't
>>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>>
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems
>

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>>>
>>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the
>>> same
>>> money
>>> built
>>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>>
>>> Decent Abit mainboard
>>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
>>> rocks)
>>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>>
>>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I
>>> got
>>> good
>>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've
>>> always
>>> liked
>>> Abit
>>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
>>> experience.
>>> They
>>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still
>>> do.
>>>
>>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>>
>>
>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
>> can't
>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
>> quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and
>> the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the
>> board).
>> I

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> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
>> money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
>> rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I
>> got
>> good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
>> liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
>> experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still
>> do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
> can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
> quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and
> the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the
> board).
> I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're
> also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's
> now
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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 On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
> money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
> rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
> good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
> liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
> experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still
> do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
 can't
 remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.

 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
 quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and
 the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the
 board).
 I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).

 Rob




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>

 I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
 money
 built
 a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:

 Decent Abit mainboard
 AMD Athlon X2 4200+
 2GB Corsair standard stuff
 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
 rocks)
 dual layer DVD-+RW
 19" wide HannsG monitor
 Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU

 It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
 good
 components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
 liked
 Abit
 motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
 experience.
 They
 used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still
 do.

 The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.

>>>
>>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
>>> can't
>>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>>
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
>>> quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the
>>> board).
>>> I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
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>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:

>>>
>>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
>>> money
>>> built
>>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>>
>>> Decent Abit mainboard
>>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
>>> rocks)
>>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>>
>>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
>>> good
>>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
>>> liked
>>> Abit
>>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my
>>> experience.
>>> They
>>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>>
>>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>>
>>
>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
>> can't
>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
>> quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the
>> board).
>> I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
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>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>>> I'm currently running an Athl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
>> money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
>> rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
>> good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
>> liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
> can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
> quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
> I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
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> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
>> quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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 On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
> money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
> rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
> good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
> liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
 remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.

 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
 I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).

 Rob




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 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
> quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
> I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>>3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>

 I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
 built
 a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:

 Decent Abit mainboard
 AMD Athlon X2 4200+
 2GB Corsair standard stuff
 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
 dual layer DVD-+RW
 19" wide HannsG monitor
 Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU

 It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
 components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
 Abit
 motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
 They
 used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.

 The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.

>>>
>>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>>
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
>>> I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
 I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
>>> modern
>>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>>> desktop,
>>> this board:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
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>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:

>>>
>>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>>> built
>>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>>
>>> Decent Abit mainboard
>>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>>
>>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>>> Abit
>>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>>> They
>>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>>
>>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>>
>>
>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
>>> I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>>
>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
>> modern
>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>> desktop,
>> this board:
>>
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>>
>> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
>> runs
>> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>
> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
>> money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
>> rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
>> good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
>> liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago,
> can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
> quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
> I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
>> quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
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 On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same
> money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it
> rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got
> good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always
> liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
 remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.

 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
 I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).

 Rob




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 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty
> quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
> I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's 

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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 On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>

 I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
 built
 a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:

 Decent Abit mainboard
 AMD Athlon X2 4200+
 2GB Corsair standard stuff
 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
 dual layer DVD-+RW
 19" wide HannsG monitor
 Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU

 It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
 components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
 Abit
 motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
 They
 used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.

 The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.

>>>
>>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>>
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
>>> I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
 I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
>>> modern
>>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>>> desktop,
>>> this board:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:

>>>
>>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>>> built
>>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>>
>>> Decent Abit mainboard
>>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>>
>>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>>> Abit
>>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>>> They
>>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>>
>>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>>
>>
>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).
>>> I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>>
>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
>> modern
>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>> desktop,
>> this board:
>>
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>>
>> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
>> runs
>> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
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> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
>
> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
> modern
> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
> desktop,
> this board:
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>
> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
> runs
> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big
> rig
> machines use.
>
> --
> Gav Ford
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> I think we need to:  Reverse the polarity of the co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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 On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
 remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.

 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).

 Rob




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 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).


 I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a modern
 Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
 desktop,
 this board:

 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222

 Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
 runs
 with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big
 rig
 machines use.

 --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
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> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
>
> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a
> modern
> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
> desktop,
> this board:
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>
> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
> runs
> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big
> rig
> machines use.
>
> --
> Gav Ford
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> I think we need to:  Reverse the polarity of the co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
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 On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>
>
> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
> built
> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>
> Decent Abit mainboard
> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
> dual layer DVD-+RW
> 19" wide HannsG monitor
> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>
> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
> Abit
> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
> They
> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>
> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>

 I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
 remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.

 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).

 Rob




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 Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
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 On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).


 I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a modern
 Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
 desktop,
 this board:

 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222

 Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
 runs
 with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big
 rig
 machines use.

 --
 Gav Ford
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 2

2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 12/2/08, Andrew Nixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 12/1/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>2. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>

 I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
 built
 a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:

 Decent Abit mainboard
 AMD Athlon X2 4200+
 2GB Corsair standard stuff
 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
 dual layer DVD-+RW
 19" wide HannsG monitor
 Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU

 It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
 components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
 Abit
 motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
 They
 used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.

 The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.

>>>
>>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>>
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
>>> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
 I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
 (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
 Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
 could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
 pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
 sitting in my wife's PC).
>>>
>>>
>>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a modern
>>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>>> desktop,
>>> this board:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>>>
>>> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system
>>> runs
>>> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big rig
>>> machines use.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gav Ford
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>>> I think we need to:  Reverse the polarity of the communications circuit
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2008-12-02 Thread Andrew Nixon
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>>3. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>4. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Chris Coulson)
>>5. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>6. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Rob Beard)
>>7. Re:  OT CPU Advice (gav)
>>8. Re:  OT CPU Advice (Darren Mansell)
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>> From: Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
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>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:

>>>
>>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>>> built
>>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>>
>>> Decent Abit mainboard
>>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>>
>>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>>> Abit
>>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>>> They
>>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>>
>>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>>
>>
>> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
>> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>>
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
>> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
>> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
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>> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>>
>>
>> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a modern
>> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my
>> desktop,
>> this board:
>>
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>>
>> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system runs
>> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big rig
>> machines use.
>>
>> --
>> Gav Ford
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
>> I think we need to:  Reverse the polarity of the communications circuit
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>> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:21:15 +
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> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I sold my EEE PC about 10 months ago and for (almost) the same money
>> built
>> a very respectable rig with bits from ebuyer. My spec was:
>>
>> Decent Abit mainboard
>> AMD Athlon X2 4200+
>> 2GB Corsair standard stuff
>> 2 x 250GB Samsung SATA HDD's (in Linux software MD RAID 0, it rocks)
>> dual layer DVD-+RW
>> 19" wide HannsG monitor
>> Good quality case from eBay with decent PSU
>>
>> It was a grand total of about ?300 but I had to make sure I got good
>> components. Most important is the PSU as Rob says. I've always liked
>> Abit
>> motherboards. Foxconn are actually pretty good from my experience.
>> They
>> used to make Intel's own brand boards, not sure if they still do.
>>
>> The disk speed makes this computer feel very fast.
>>
>
> I heard bad things about Foxconn boards and Linux a while ago, can't
> remember if it was posted here.  I'm just a bit dubious now.
>
> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
> Rob
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:11:46 +
> From: "gav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
> To: British Ubuntu Talk 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:52:42PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I'm currently running an Athlon X2 3800+ and that seems pretty quick
>> (I did have a Phenom X4 9600 but it died over the weekend and the
>> Athlon X2 was the only thing I had which could chuck in the board).  I
>> could also recommend the Pentium Dual Core chips as they're also
>> pretty quick (I had one before upgrading to the Phenom, it's now
>> sitting in my wife's PC).
>
>
> I've not really found a massive multi-core chip to be needed on a modern
> Linux desktop, recently I've moved over to an Atom processor on my desktop,
> this board:
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/147222
>
> Works beautifully under Ubuntu and Debian for me and the whole system runs
> with an 80W power supply, rather than the hundreds of Watts these big rig
> machines use.
>
> --
> Gav Ford
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://revford.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> I think we need to:  Reverse the polarity of the communications circuit
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> 2008/12/1 Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>
>> On 1 Dec 2008, at 10:24, Darren Mansell wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> > I sold my EEE PC about 10 month