Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Orange wireless dongle on Ubuntu 8.10

2009-02-25 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:54 AM, John jake...@sky.com wrote:
 Hi Mike, have finally got the Dongle working, but its not stable, it
 crashes now and again. It seems it doesnt like automatically
 reconnecting, if the connection has been lost.

 On one crash, something changed, and I'm not sure what it was. I just
 wondered, can you tell me how I can find out what version I'm using
 again, if you write it down, I wont forget it.

 thank you for the help.

 John.



Hi John, I think you are refering to the version of the kernel you are running?

To check you can go System - Administration - System Monitor and it
will be on one of the tabs :-)

HTH
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[ubuntu-uk] OT: Socket A (Athlon XP) motherboard

2009-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

This is a long shot but I thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm trying to 
resurrect an old PC which has a faulty motherboard and an Athlon XP 
(1700+ I think) chip in it.  Before I give up and chuck the chip in my 
box of junk, I just wondered if anyone possibly had an old Athlon XP 
board kicking around that they didn't want and would be willing to part 
with either free or cheaply?

Ta,

Rob


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[ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Ian Betteridge
I wiped my tiny remaining Windows partition last night to replace it with
the beta of Windows 7 (it's only taken me a month to get around to having a
play). It's nice, but nothing that exciting - just basically Windows Vista
done better.

But, if you're installing and also have Ubuntu installed, there's a couple
of gotchas you might want to note.

First, it merrily wipes your master boot record, which means you'll need to
reinstall GRUB to get access to your Ubuntu install. This can be done from
the LiveCD (google reinstalling grub ubuntu to find out the full details.)

Second, EXT2 IFS, the Windows programme which lets you read and write to an
ext3 partition under Windows, does work under Vista as long as you install
it with Vista Compatibility mode on (Right click on the installer, select
properties, Compatibility tab, and choose Windows Vista). However, it's
unlikely to work with a partition made using the Intrepid CD - I can't
remember the exact details as to why, but basically you're out of luck.

Anyway, hope that helps someone!
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk:
 First, it merrily wipes your master boot record, which means you'll need to
 reinstall GRUB to get access to your Ubuntu install. This can be done from
 the LiveCD (google reinstalling grub ubuntu to find out the full details.)


This is actually not news. Windows has always tramped all over the MBR
not caring for whatever other OS there might be on the box.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Ian Betteridge
Yep, but worth a reminder - I'd forgotten! :)

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk:
  First, it merrily wipes your master boot record, which means you'll need
 to
  reinstall GRUB to get access to your Ubuntu install. This can be done
 from
  the LiveCD (google reinstalling grub ubuntu to find out the full
 details.)
 

 This is actually not news. Windows has always tramped all over the MBR
 not caring for whatever other OS there might be on the box.

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Mark Allison
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Ian Betteridge 
i...@ianbetteridge.co.ukwrote:

 I wiped my tiny remaining Windows partition last night to replace it with
 the beta of Windows 7 (it's only taken me a month to get around to having a
 play). It's nice, but nothing that exciting - just basically Windows Vista
 done better.

 But, if you're installing and also have Ubuntu installed, there's a couple
 of gotchas you might want to note.

 First, it merrily wipes your master boot record, which means you'll need to
 reinstall GRUB to get access to your Ubuntu install. This can be done from
 the LiveCD (google reinstalling grub ubuntu to find out the full details.)

 Second, EXT2 IFS, the Windows programme which lets you read and write to an
 ext3 partition under Windows, does work under Vista as long as you install
 it with Vista Compatibility mode on (Right click on the installer, select
 properties, Compatibility tab, and choose Windows Vista). However, it's
 unlikely to work with a partition made using the Intrepid CD - I can't
 remember the exact details as to why, but basically you're out of luck.


Another option is to try it out under in a virtual machine (which is what I
did).
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Socket A (Athlon XP) motherboard

2009-02-25 Thread Tony Travis
Rob Beard wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 This is a long shot but I thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm trying to
 resurrect an old PC which has a faulty motherboard and an Athlon XP
 (1700+ I think) chip in it.  Before I give up and chuck the chip in my
 box of junk, I just wondered if anyone possibly had an old Athlon XP
 board kicking around that they didn't want and would be willing to part
 with either free or cheaply?

Hello, Rob.

I've got one of these that you can have if you pay the postage: Just 
reply to me off list, and tell me where you want me to send it to.

Bye,

Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Socket A (Athlon XP) motherboard

2009-02-25 Thread Chris Coulson
2009/2/25 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 Hi folks,

 This is a long shot but I thought I'd ask anyway.  I'm trying to
 resurrect an old PC which has a faulty motherboard and an Athlon XP
 (1700+ I think) chip in it.  Before I give up and chuck the chip in my
 box of junk, I just wondered if anyone possibly had an old Athlon XP
 board kicking around that they didn't want and would be willing to part
 with either free or cheaply?

 Ta,

 Rob


 --

Hi,

I've got an old *cough* PC-Chips M810LMR board, which I think is a socket A.
It had an old Athlon XP 1600 in it until I gave that away a little while
ago, so the board is just sat in the loft gathering dust now. It was quite
reliable when I was using it though.

If you're anywhere near Solihull, I'd probably just drive it round to you if
you wanted it.

Cheers
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non default driver

2009-02-25 Thread Rowan
I would certainly want to make it clear to anyone considering starting 
with Linux that unless they are already online with another machine (I 
am using a beat-up old sony running WinXP) it will be absolute hell for 
them to find anyone who can help them get started. I could not possibly 
have figured out what my problems were unless I had been online, and I 
spent altogether about a week picking people's brains online (on this 
and two other lists, in addition to talking to the suppliers) before I 
really felt that I had the problems identified. I couldn't have done it 
using an online terminal at the local public library, it would have been 
insane, because you keep getting sent back to the machine to try 
suggestions.  I hope that explains my ready recourse to offering money - 
it's a reflex from not really expecting to be able to deal with it 
except as a well-defined commercial contract, which I could book and 
rely on. That sort of contract you can set up with one phone call - 
assuming there is a commercial outfit in your town that you can locate 
for such tasks ,which is probably not the case anyway, but you see what 
I am getting at - I was looking for a one-stop solution I could just 
dump the problem on, who could provide a hands-on engineer rather than 
just advice. That would be a good angle for some commercial software 
service outfit: they should advertise as linux newbies' rescue centres.

Jon Reynolds wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to add something to this, although not entirely relevant to 
 Rowan's case, but it reminds me of a lot of people thinking when it comes to 
 adopting Linux.

 I have tried, half-heartedly, to get family members to switch to Ubuntu, or 
 even just try it out for a while, thinking once they've used it for a while 
 they will convert. My father, for example, seems genuinely keen to give it a 
 go; he isn't a 'why would I want anything but windows' person, he is quite 
 open minded to the open source community, but as a basic user has a bit of 
 fear of the unknown.

 His reason for not trying is support. Now for most of us that's not an 
 issue... we have a problem, we go on the web and find a solution. He is not 
 like that, not capable of that and not inclined to want to do that. How he 
 works at the moment and how he wants to continue to work, is that if 
 something goes wrong with the computer, if he can't solve it over the phone 
 with me, he just drops it into his local computer shop and says 'fix it'. 

 I am not sure on the capabilities of the local computer shop, but assuming 
 they are Windows people, then he is right in as far as what does a new linux 
 user do when things go wrong? I think this puts off a lot of people even 
 trying.. because of the 'what if something goes wrong'.

 Perhaps most local computer shops are full of linux buffs anyway and they 
 would be happier to fix his pc if it was linux rather than windows...?

 Jon Reynolds


  On Tue 24/02/09 21:02 , Rowan rowan.berke...@googlemail.com sent:
   
 Thanks but I shall wait until someone is able to reinstall the driver, 
 install DKMS, and give the thing a general once-over, as discussed
 earlier.Please understand that although I appreciate the 'open source 
 philosophy' I do NOT regard myself as competent to fix this.
 


   


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[ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

2009-02-25 Thread Adam Bagnall
This article recently appeared on the BBC, thought it might interest some of
you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non default driver

2009-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/02/2009 15:19, Jon Reynolds wrote:
 Hi all,

 I would like to add something to this, although not entirely relevant to 
 Rowan's case, but it reminds me of a lot of people thinking when it comes to 
 adopting Linux.

 I have tried, half-heartedly, to get family members to switch to Ubuntu, or 
 even just try it out for a while, thinking once they've used it for a while 
 they will convert. My father, for example, seems genuinely keen to give it a 
 go; he isn't a 'why would I want anything but windows' person, he is quite 
 open minded to the open source community, but as a basic user has a bit of 
 fear of the unknown.

 His reason for not trying is support. Now for most of us that's not an 
 issue... we have a problem, we go on the web and find a solution. He is not 
 like that, not capable of that and not inclined to want to do that. How he 
 works at the moment and how he wants to continue to work, is that if 
 something goes wrong with the computer, if he can't solve it over the phone 
 with me, he just drops it into his local computer shop and says 'fix it'.

 I am not sure on the capabilities of the local computer shop, but assuming 
 they are Windows people, then he is right in as far as what does a new linux 
 user do when things go wrong? I think this puts off a lot of people even 
 trying.. because of the 'what if something goes wrong'.

 Perhaps most local computer shops are full of linux buffs anyway and they 
 would be happier to fix his pc if it was linux rather than windows...?

 Jon Reynolds

I think it certainly helps if you're near to a local LUG, but I guess 
for some new users they might not know where to look to find a LUG (or 
even what a LUG is).  I can't speak for general computer magazines (I 
only get Retro Gamer and Linux Format) but I certainly do like the idea 
that Linux Format does (or at least did, IIRC how it's changed) have a 
directory of LUGs across the country, or at least details of how to find 
a local LUG for support.

I found when I seriously started using Linux (rather than dual booting 
and poking around with RedHat) that my local LUG was a great source for 
help with members willing to help out either via e-mail or in person (be 
it popping over to my place or meeting at a LUG meet).  With regards to 
my own local LUG (Devon  Cornwall LUG), I can't help think we could do 
with a bit more promotion to the masses.  Luckily I think we're slowly 
getting the word out a bit better especially now we have more venues.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

2009-02-25 Thread Rowan
Adam Bagnall wrote:
 This article recently appeared on the BBC, thought it might interest 
 some of you.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

 Adam.
yup, apropos to that (although again like the BBC story it is thinking 
mainly of browsers and other applications, rather than the whole OS):

Google pledges to support EU's Microsoft case
Bobbie Johnson, technology correspondent
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 25 February 2009 02.21 GMT
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/feb/25/microsoft-internet

Internet giant has said it wants to join European investigation into 
accusations of anti-competitive behaviour by rival. Google has become 
the latest company to join the chorus of voices supporting the European 
Commission's investigation of Microsoft over allegations of 
anti-competitive behaviour. The Silicon Valley internet giant said 
yesterday that it was hoping to become a party to Commission's 
investigation into Microsoft's dominance of the internet browser market



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[ubuntu-uk] 3D OpenGL screensaver (or running Picassa screensaver on Gnome)

2009-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

A client of mine (a radio station) has got a PC attached to a plasma TV 
which goes through a collection of pictures of events that they have 
been to.  At the moment they are using the basic pictures screensaver 
which just works apart from the fact it doesn't have any fancy effects.  
Now the programme controller is really into anything and everything 
Google (Chrome, Picassa, etc) and he's asked if it's possible to setup 
some fancy transitions between the pictures (the Google Screensaver 
zooms in and fades nicely between the pictures).  I just wondered if 
anyone know if there was anything for Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) that did the same?

If not, does anyone know how to get the xscreensavers working instead of 
the built in Gnome screen savers (I see there is an OpenGL pictures 
screensaver built in), or if it's possible to tell the Gnome Screensaver 
to run a script as a screensaver (from what I gather this is the only 
way apart from using the xscreensaver to get the Picassa screensaver 
with OpenGL working on Ubuntu).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non default driver

2009-02-25 Thread Tony Travis
Rowan wrote:
 I would certainly want to make it clear to anyone considering starting
 with Linux that unless they are already online with another machine (I
 am using a beat-up old sony running WinXP) it will be absolute hell for
 them to find anyone who can help them get started.
  [...]

Hello, Rowan.

I'm not unsympathetic to your plight, but I've lost count of the many 
family and friends that I've helped to resolve problems caused by new 
releases, or incompatible upgrades, of Windows that didn't recognise 
hardware on their PC's. I don't think their Windows 'hell' was any less 
frustrating than your experience with Linux has been to date: I've got 
to say that I've found the online Windows community every bit as helpful 
to each other as the Linux community are in resolving problems. Quite a 
lot of knowledge is actually shared between these two user communities.

What I witnessed in response to your post on this list was many people 
responding to you and offering to help you resolve your problem. I was 
one of the people who responded, and suggested you tried booting from 
the Ubuntu 'live' CD. Matt Daubney also suggested your try booting from 
the 'live' CD and Rob beard suggested you look at some Linux magazines. 
We were, of course, trying to help you to resolve your driver problem 
yourself because that is part of what Linux is all about and why people 
like to use it. However, what seems to have frustrated you most is that 
few of us realised that you wanted someone else to solve the problem...

That's not unreasonable if you can't or don't want to solve the problem 
yourself, but there is a community of people here who are used to a way 
of solving problems that appears unfamiliar to you. I think you've put 
your finger on a genuine problem, but I don't think that it's unique to 
Linux. What I would say to anyone considering starting to use Linux is 
that making contact with other people who are already using Linux can be 
helpful, and an up-to-date list of UK LUG's (Linux User Groups) where 
you can meet them is published every month in 'Linux Format' magazine.

Bye,

Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 3D OpenGL screensaver (or running Picassa screensaver on Gnome)

2009-02-25 Thread Rob Beard
On 25/02/2009 17:09, Mark Fraser wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2009 16:58:24 Rob Beard wrote:

 Hi folks,

 A client of mine (a radio station) has got a PC attached to a plasma TV
 which goes through a collection of pictures of events that they have
 been to.  At the moment they are using the basic pictures screensaver
 which just works apart from the fact it doesn't have any fancy effects.
 Now the programme controller is really into anything and everything
 Google (Chrome, Picassa, etc) and he's asked if it's possible to setup
 some fancy transitions between the pictures (the Google Screensaver
 zooms in and fades nicely between the pictures).  I just wondered if
 anyone know if there was anything for Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) that did the
 same?
  

 Not really a screensaver, but DigiKam has an advanced slideshow tool which
 allows all sorts of OpenGL transitions between photos and can be set to loop
 and shuffle photos.

Ahh that might do the job.  I just need something that is A) dead easy 
to use and B) can ideally start without any user intervention (so 
probably by a script which runs when the machine auto logs in).

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Non default driver

2009-02-25 Thread Rowan
I didn't start out with the preconception that someone else would have 
to sort it out for me hands-on. However, I do feel that now, and 
yesterday two people on this list said quite cheerfully that at some 
point it should be possible to do just that, and I don't want to start 
reviewing that decision all over again. I am quite happy to wait until 
someone has the time and energy and inclination to arrange a time and 
place to sort it out with me hands-on. Reinstalling the whole of ubuntu 
seems unnecessary. It's just a matter of recompiling the driver, 
installing the DKMS, and checking for any other instances of non-default 
modules.

Thanks
Rowan

Tony Travis wrote:
 Rowan wrote:
   
 I would certainly want to make it clear to anyone considering starting
 with Linux that unless they are already online with another machine (I
 am using a beat-up old sony running WinXP) it will be absolute hell for
 them to find anyone who can help them get started.
 
   [...]

 Hello, Rowan.

 I'm not unsympathetic to your plight, but I've lost count of the many 
 family and friends that I've helped to resolve problems caused by new 
 releases, or incompatible upgrades, of Windows that didn't recognise 
 hardware on their PC's. I don't think their Windows 'hell' was any less 
 frustrating than your experience with Linux has been to date: I've got 
 to say that I've found the online Windows community every bit as helpful 
 to each other as the Linux community are in resolving problems. Quite a 
 lot of knowledge is actually shared between these two user communities.

 What I witnessed in response to your post on this list was many people 
 responding to you and offering to help you resolve your problem. I was 
 one of the people who responded, and suggested you tried booting from 
 the Ubuntu 'live' CD. Matt Daubney also suggested your try booting from 
 the 'live' CD and Rob beard suggested you look at some Linux magazines. 
 We were, of course, trying to help you to resolve your driver problem 
 yourself because that is part of what Linux is all about and why people 
 like to use it. However, what seems to have frustrated you most is that 
 few of us realised that you wanted someone else to solve the problem...

 That's not unreasonable if you can't or don't want to solve the problem 
 yourself, but there is a community of people here who are used to a way 
 of solving problems that appears unfamiliar to you. I think you've put 
 your finger on a genuine problem, but I don't think that it's unique to 
 Linux. What I would say to anyone considering starting to use Linux is 
 that making contact with other people who are already using Linux can be 
 helpful, and an up-to-date list of UK LUG's (Linux User Groups) where 
 you can meet them is published every month in 'Linux Format' magazine.

 Bye,

   Tony.
   


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[ubuntu-uk] Ministerial Ubuntu spotting.....

2009-02-25 Thread alan c
Following a successful visit in April 2008, organised via Hantslug, of 
Government Minister John Denham to
Jamies, the Sounthampton recycling centre, when he had presentations 
and Q  A on Open Source including, specifically, Ubuntu, I now see news
of a follow up:

Jamie's Hosts Ministerial Visit
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/video/video/72449/
(spot ubuntu)
(Ubuntu runs on many of Jamies computers anyway)

extract from jamies ebulletin:
Jamie's Computers was one of 14 organisations in the region to receive
a ministerial visit, when Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his Cabinet
descended on Southampton on Monday 23rd February 2009.
Jamie's welcomed Liam Byrne, Minister for the Cabinet Office to its
operation in Northam as part of the visits which took place in the region.
Minister Liam Byrne said:
Jamie's Computers is a great example of how social enterprises can
benefit the local community and the country as a whole.  It's clear to
me that they give vulnerable people real opportunities to realise
their potential and get on in life, regardless of their circumstances.
In this tough economic climate we need businesses like this that put
ethics first.  This way we can all build a fairer society and a
stronger country.
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Linux user #360648


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice on backing up Ubuntu machine

2009-02-25 Thread alan c
doug livesey wrote:
 Hi -- I've recently switched my main dev machine from OSX to Ubuntu Ibex,
 and would like to start implementing a regular backup regimen.
 In OSX I used TimeMachine, an excellent app that has saved my arse on more
 than one occasion.
 I've seen that there are supposed to be equivalents, like FlyBack (which I
 haven't managed to get working, yet), but thought a quick straw poll on what
 other ubuntu geeks are using could be helpful.
 Cheers,
Doug.

also consider
sbackup
(In repos)
an app from the google summer of code.
Could do with more refinement, but it is the first app I have found 
simple and useful at my level of complicated domestic use.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

2009-02-25 Thread Tony Scott
A bit of comment on this

http://puffbox.com/2009/02/25/govuk-tips-scales-in-open-sources-favour/

 Tony



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http://extropy.co.uk





From: Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.com
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Wednesday, 25 February, 2009 16:02:58
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

This article recently appeared on the BBC, thought it might interest some of 
you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

Adam.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

2009-02-25 Thread Yishay Mor
maybe its my awkward sense of humour, but I couldn't resist running
http://www.cio.gov.uk against http://uptime.netcraft.com/

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2009/2/25 Tony Scott tonyscott...@yahoo.co.uk

 A bit of comment on this

 http://puffbox.com/2009/02/25/govuk-tips-scales-in-open-sources-favour/

 Tony

 
 Tony Scott
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 http://uk.wordcamp.org
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 *Subject:* [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

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 of you.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

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[ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?

2009-02-25 Thread rizzuwan wahid
I've a hard disk that consist of two partitions, that known as c and d, and I 
want to install a Ubuntu in one of the existing partition while not erasing the 
other partition.
What I've counter is, when i want to install it, either it will erase all 
partition and then install it or it will create another partition.
So how i want to install the Ubuntu in the existing partition either in c or d 
without erasing the other partition or create new partition?

RIZZUWAN



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Liam Proven
2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk:
 Yep, but worth a reminder - I'd forgotten! :)

Well done, Penfold. ;¬)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?

2009-02-25 Thread Liam Proven
2009/2/26 rizzuwan wahid rizzu...@yahoo.com:
 I've a hard disk that consist of two partitions, that known as c and d, and
 I want to install a Ubuntu in one of the existing partition while not
 erasing the other partition.
 What I've counter is, when i want to install it, either it will erase all
 partition and then install it or it will create another partition.
 So how i want to install the Ubuntu in the existing partition either in c or
 d without erasing the other partition or create new partition?

 RIZZUWAN

The easiest way is probably to do the first step in Windows.

So, in Windows, move everything you want to keep off D onto C or
something. Then run Disk Manager (assuming you're using XP) - Start |
Run | diskmgmt.msc

Select the D drive - and make very very sure that it *IS* the D drive,
not the C drive - and delete it. Save the changes and reboot. Check
that Windows still boots and runs off C. So long as it's OK, reboot
with your Ubuntu CD and get it to use the free space.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] HELP: How to install the Ubuntu in one of the existing partition in a hard disk?

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Flatters
I thought Ubuntu gave you an manual option to setup the hard drive
partition, which allowed for two systems on two separate partition. I know
ive done it.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/2/26 rizzuwan wahid rizzu...@yahoo.com:
  I've a hard disk that consist of two partitions, that known as c and d,
 and
  I want to install a Ubuntu in one of the existing partition while not
  erasing the other partition.
  What I've counter is, when i want to install it, either it will erase all
  partition and then install it or it will create another partition.
  So how i want to install the Ubuntu in the existing partition either in c
 or
  d without erasing the other partition or create new partition?
 
  RIZZUWAN

 The easiest way is probably to do the first step in Windows.

 So, in Windows, move everything you want to keep off D onto C or
 something. Then run Disk Manager (assuming you're using XP) - Start |
 Run | diskmgmt.msc

 Select the D drive - and make very very sure that it *IS* the D drive,
 not the C drive - and delete it. Save the changes and reboot. Check
 that Windows still boots and runs off C. So long as it's OK, reboot
 with your Ubuntu CD and get it to use the free space.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Flatters
It good to know some of the quirk of window 7 before it released. Just in
case i deside to get it or not.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk:
  Yep, but worth a reminder - I'd forgotten! :)

 Well done, Penfold. ;¬)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK government backs open source

2009-02-25 Thread Robert Flatters
There is another company that going down the same road as Microsoft and that
Apple they have started doing the same thing. Being secretive and in some
case anti-competitive.  Maybe  the EU commission might need to look into
them. That would give the big A a wake call.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Adam Bagnall bagna...@googlemail.comwrote:

 This article recently appeared on the BBC, thought it might interest some
 of you.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7910110.stm

 Adam.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] A quick warning if you're trying out Windows 7

2009-02-25 Thread Ian Betteridge
You KNOW I have a memory like a sieve! Didn't I meet you at some point? ;)

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 2009/2/25 Ian Betteridge i...@ianbetteridge.co.uk:
  Yep, but worth a reminder - I'd forgotten! :)

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