Re: [ubuntu-uk] Jaunty beta upgrade

2009-04-07 Thread Dave Morley
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 11:32 +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
 Well, I upgraded my Thinkpad X31 over the weekend from 8.10 to the
 beta of 9.04. It mostly went pretty smoothly, but I hit a couple of
 snags. The installer did not put the new kernel in GRUB's menu.lst
 file - I just picked the default option and this was to leave menu.lst
 alone. The result was an error on bootup that CPU scaling was not
 supported on my processor.
 
 I found the new kernel, manually amended the file, checked it worked,
 which it did just fine, and removed the old kernel using Synaptic -
 which once again newrote menu.lst and removed my hand-added entries.
 It's a very good job I checked before I rebooted. Happily I have a
 docking station for this machine with a DVD drive in, so I could have
 fixed this by hand, but otherwise, I would have been stranded. I don't
 /think/ the machine can boot from USB - I do not own any PC that can,
 AFAIK.
 
 Also, 9.04 seems to enable Compiz by default, which is agonizingly
 slow on my ATI Rage Mobility chipset. The machine was unable to keep
 up with my 2-finger typing and was unpleasant to use. The transparent
 notifications from Pidgin and on using my special IBM keys to change
 volume or screen brightness looked great in Compiz. Now I have
 disabled it, performance is sluggish but usable, but the notifications
 appear in an ugly black box overlaid on the top-right corner of the
 screen.
 
 What app produces these notifications, does anyone know? I'd like to
 investigate its settings and see if it can do its own alpha-blending,
 and if not, just turn it off...
 
 Anyone reckon these things are worth filing as bugs?
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel 12-13-14 ??

2009-04-07 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 04:34:09PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
 
 hmm the last post i did got grabbed by the list's spamassassin :S I'll
 try again: http://pastebin.com/f7d0f623d 

From that it looks like /sbin/update-grub is failing. It looks like
it's asking expr to do calculations with something that isn't a
number. First thing I'd check to try and figure out why would be your
grub configuration it's trying to update (/boot/grub/menu.lst). If you
put that in a paste bin we can have a look and see if that's the
problem. 

 Robert 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu 9.04 Release Party - The Warwick, London - Thu 23rd April

2009-04-07 Thread Colin McCarthy
2009/3/27 Kat Kinnie kat.kin...@canonical.com

  Hi all,

 Just wanted to let you know the details for the Ubuntu 9.04 Release Party.

I know it's still early but is there an official Twitter HashTag for this
event? :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Lucy
2009/3/25 Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com:
 I'm pleased to announce that Ian Forrester (from BBC Backstage) has
 booked us the BBC Manchester Bar on Friday 24th April for the
 Ubuntu-UK Manchester release party. The party will  start at 7pm and
 go on until late (although after 10pm we may have to move to another
 pub on Oxford Road).

I've had lots of interest for the release party and plenty of people
have signed up. I'm really excited about it!

However, I'd like to advertise it a bit more widely and need some
help! I've informed local LUGs and other tech groups, the Ubuntu-UK
podcast and LinuxOutlaws have kindly advertised as well, but I'd like
to know what else myself or others can do?

Also, can someone submit the event to the Ubuntu weekly newsletter?
I'm not keen on signing up to the mailing list just for that and can't
see another way to do it..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Gordon Allott
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 11:14 +0100, Lucy wrote:
 2009/3/25 Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com:
  I'm pleased to announce that Ian Forrester (from BBC Backstage) has
  booked us the BBC Manchester Bar on Friday 24th April for the
  Ubuntu-UK Manchester release party. The party will  start at 7pm and
  go on until late (although after 10pm we may have to move to another
  pub on Oxford Road).
 
 I've had lots of interest for the release party and plenty of people
 have signed up. I'm really excited about it!
 
 However, I'd like to advertise it a bit more widely and need some
 help! I've informed local LUGs and other tech groups, the Ubuntu-UK
 podcast and LinuxOutlaws have kindly advertised as well, but I'd like
 to know what else myself or others can do?
 
 Also, can someone submit the event to the Ubuntu weekly newsletter?
 I'm not keen on signing up to the mailing list just for that and can't
 see another way to do it..
 

Could always whack it up on digg I suppose, although anything that
doesn't get a lot of diggs (ie: hundreds) doesn't make the front page
which in turn means the only people that see it are the ones who dugg
it. 

Someone might want to put it up on the ubuntu-uk part of the forums, I
don't have an account there myself.
http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=274

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Joiku wireless connection......

2009-04-07 Thread John




Been still trying a few things out, to get this to work. I have
discovered that I tried to connect to Joiku via a windows xp machine,
and found I could connect really easily using both 68 and 128 bits
encryption. So it makes me think that there might be something wrong
with my network adaptor. Before I try to install the WICD, I wonderd if
there might be a way to try repair the Network manager instead. 

If that doesnt work, and I install the WICD, how will that affect my
other wireles connections, for example connecting to my router, will I
have any problems? As you can tell, I am not very good with Ubuntu, and
I am worried this might get over my head.

So, does anybody have any ideas about repairing the Network manager? If
will even work? 

Thanks for your help.

John

Harry Rickards wrote:

  Quoting jakewc2 jake...@sky.com:

  
  
Sorrym to keep on about this, but I am still having problems. i just
wondered, could there be something wrong with the networkmanager applet?
Could somebody help please?

Thank you.

John

  
  

If there is a problem with network manager, you could use wubi, an  
alternative to network manager. It bills itself as "an open source  
wired and wireless network manager for Linux which aims to provide a  
simple interface to connect to networks with a wide variety of  
settings", and allows you to do pretty much the same as Network  
Manager. However, if you want a wicd applet, you'll have to set  
'/opt/wicd/tray.py' to run at startup.

To install, you first need to remove network manager by opening a  
terminal (Accessories  Terminal) and running
'sudo apt-get remove network-manager network-manager-applet'. When  
this is done, run the command
'sudo apt-get install wicd'.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Simon Wears
A) I'd Digg that!
2) If no-one has put it up on the forums by tonight, I'll put it up on  
there when I'm at my computer.
D) I could ask around at my university (Manchester Met) about getting  
a notice out to all students. I don't know how possible it would be,  
since it's the holidays now, but it's worth a shot, right?
£) We could always put posters up in coffee shops, etc., around  
Manchester?

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On 7 Apr 2009, at 14:00, Gordon Allott gordall...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 11:14 +0100, Lucy wrote:
 2009/3/25 Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com:
 I'm pleased to announce that Ian Forrester (from BBC Backstage) has
 booked us the BBC Manchester Bar on Friday 24th April for the
 Ubuntu-UK Manchester release party. The party will  start at 7pm and
 go on until late (although after 10pm we may have to move to another
 pub on Oxford Road).

 I've had lots of interest for the release party and plenty of people
 have signed up. I'm really excited about it!

 However, I'd like to advertise it a bit more widely and need some
 help! I've informed local LUGs and other tech groups, the Ubuntu-UK
 podcast and LinuxOutlaws have kindly advertised as well, but I'd like
 to know what else myself or others can do?

 Also, can someone submit the event to the Ubuntu weekly newsletter?
 I'm not keen on signing up to the mailing list just for that and  
 can't
 see another way to do it..


 Could always whack it up on digg I suppose, although anything that
 doesn't get a lot of diggs (ie: hundreds) doesn't make the front page
 which in turn means the only people that see it are the ones who dugg
 it.

 Someone might want to put it up on the ubuntu-uk part of the forums, I
 don't have an account there myself.
 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=274

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Lucy
2009/4/7 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com:
 A) I'd Digg that!

I don't use digg, but cool :)

 2) If no-one has put it up on the forums by tonight, I'll put it up on
 there when I'm at my computer.

I'd completely forgotten the forums existed. There's some interesting
topics on there that I will read if I get chance. I'll be home late
tonight so if you get chance to post to the forums that would be
great.

 D) I could ask around at my university (Manchester Met) about getting
 a notice out to all students. I don't know how possible it would be,
 since it's the holidays now, but it's worth a shot, right?

Great :) Will the students be back before the party, for reading week
or something?

 £) We could always put posters up in coffee shops, etc., around
 Manchester?

Good idea. I'll create a poster this weekend - I know that the
community have made similar ones available so it shouldn't be
difficult. I'll let you know when it's available for printing ;)

Thanks both of you for the suggestions so far. I like this community :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Tim Dobson
Lucy wrote:
 2009/4/7 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com:
 A) I'd Digg that!
 
 I don't use digg, but cool :)

fsdaily.com ftw!


 Good idea. I'll create a poster this weekend - I know that the
 community have made similar ones available so it shouldn't be
 difficult. I'll let you know when it's available for printing ;)

If you need a hand getting things printed give me a shout. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Simon Wears
The release party is the weekend before term begins, so people should  
be back in their flats. I just hope they check their student mail over  
easter!

Also, seeing colins email on London party, Twitter? Do we have a  
hashtag for it?

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On 7 Apr 2009, at 15:47, Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/4/7 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com:
 A) I'd Digg that!

 I don't use digg, but cool :)

 2) If no-one has put it up on the forums by tonight, I'll put it up  
 on
 there when I'm at my computer.

 I'd completely forgotten the forums existed. There's some interesting
 topics on there that I will read if I get chance. I'll be home late
 tonight so if you get chance to post to the forums that would be
 great.

 D) I could ask around at my university (Manchester Met) about getting
 a notice out to all students. I don't know how possible it would be,
 since it's the holidays now, but it's worth a shot, right?

 Great :) Will the students be back before the party, for reading week
 or something?

 £) We could always put posters up in coffee shops, etc., around
 Manchester?

 Good idea. I'll create a poster this weekend - I know that the
 community have made similar ones available so it shouldn't be
 difficult. I'll let you know when it's available for printing ;)

 Thanks both of you for the suggestions so far. I like this  
 community :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel 12-13-14 ??

2009-04-07 Thread Farran Lee
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 11:46 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 04:34:09PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
  
  hmm the last post i did got grabbed by the list's spamassassin :S I'll
  try again: http://pastebin.com/f7d0f623d 
 
 From that it looks like /sbin/update-grub is failing. It looks like
 it's asking expr to do calculations with something that isn't a
 number. First thing I'd check to try and figure out why would be your
 grub configuration it's trying to update (/boot/grub/menu.lst). If you
 put that in a paste bin we can have a look and see if that's the
 problem. 
 
Robert 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel 12-13-14 ??

2009-04-07 Thread Michael G Fletcher
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Farran Lee fazzy.bab...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 11:46 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 04:34:09PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
 
  hmm the last post i did got grabbed by the list's spamassassin :S I'll
  try again: http://pastebin.com/f7d0f623d

 From that it looks like /sbin/update-grub is failing. It looks like
 it's asking expr to do calculations with something that isn't a
 number. First thing I'd check to try and figure out why would be your
 grub configuration it's trying to update (/boot/grub/menu.lst). If you
 put that in a paste bin we can have a look and see if that's the
 problem.

Robert

 
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 is why Engineers sometimes smell really bad.


 er here: http://pastebin.com/f1530e2cf
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Hi Farran,

Two things, I'm not sure why the kernel is updating?  I can only find
2.6.27-11 in the repositories, can any one else confirm this?

The key for the ppa.launchpad.net can be found on the ppa repository
site you are using to get updates from, eg if you are getting
openoffice3, then you will need to look here:
https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa - go to the ppa
that you are subscribed to and follow the instructions on how to get
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel 12-13-14 ??

2009-04-07 Thread Farran Lee
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 16:58 +0100, Michael G Fletcher wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Farran Lee fazzy.bab...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 11:46 +0100, Robert McWilliam wrote:
 
  On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 04:34:09PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
  
   hmm the last post i did got grabbed by the list's spamassassin :S I'll
   try again: http://pastebin.com/f7d0f623d
 
  From that it looks like /sbin/update-grub is failing. It looks like
  it's asking expr to do calculations with something that isn't a
  number. First thing I'd check to try and figure out why would be your
  grub configuration it's trying to update (/boot/grub/menu.lst). If you
  put that in a paste bin we can have a look and see if that's the
  problem.
 
   Robert
 
  
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  Genius is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration, which
  is why Engineers sometimes smell really bad.
 
 
  er here: http://pastebin.com/f1530e2cf
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  Farran Lee
 
 Hi Farran,
 
 Two things, I'm not sure why the kernel is updating?  I can only find
 2.6.27-11 in the repositories, can any one else confirm this?
 
 The key for the ppa.launchpad.net can be found on the ppa repository
 site you are using to get updates from, eg if you are getting
 openoffice3, then you will need to look here:
 https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa - go to the ppa
 that you are subscribed to and follow the instructions on how to get
 the key.
 
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ok thanks well my synaptic definitely lists 27-12 13 and 14 :/ how weird
hehe
I'll add the key now :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Spotting: Stoke Odeon

2009-04-07 Thread Liam Proven
2009/4/4 Kris Douglas webbox...@gmail.com:
 Hey, I was spotted in Hanley today, one of the staff at the cinema
 noticed the ubuntu fleece I had one, nice one :)

The big Odeon leisure complex, with the snooker club and bowling alley
and so on?

If so, I wired up the liquor-sales monitoring equipment in the bars
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party

2009-04-07 Thread Simon Wears
It's up on the Forums - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1118879

2009/4/7 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com

 The release party is the weekend before term begins, so people should be
 back in their flats. I just hope they check their student mail over easter!

 Also, seeing colins email on London party, Twitter? Do we have a hashtag
 for it?

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 On 7 Apr 2009, at 15:47, Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com wrote:

  2009/4/7 Simon Wears munkyju...@googlemail.com:

 A) I'd Digg that!


 I don't use digg, but cool :)

  2) If no-one has put it up on the forums by tonight, I'll put it up on
 there when I'm at my computer.


 I'd completely forgotten the forums existed. There's some interesting
 topics on there that I will read if I get chance. I'll be home late
 tonight so if you get chance to post to the forums that would be
 great.

  D) I could ask around at my university (Manchester Met) about getting
 a notice out to all students. I don't know how possible it would be,
 since it's the holidays now, but it's worth a shot, right?


 Great :) Will the students be back before the party, for reading week
 or something?

  £) We could always put posters up in coffee shops, etc., around
 Manchester?


 Good idea. I'll create a poster this weekend - I know that the
 community have made similar ones available so it shouldn't be
 difficult. I'll let you know when it's available for printing ;)

 Thanks both of you for the suggestions so far. I like this community :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] kernel 12-13-14 ??

2009-04-07 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 04:35:44PM +0100, Farran Lee wrote:
 
 er here: http://pastebin.com/f1530e2cf 

OK, I'm only guessing here. I don't know much about how update-grub
actually works, but...

You've got default saved in there with savedefault=false and
updatedefaultentry=true. I think update-grub is trying to calculate
a new default entry from that and finding it can't do maths on the
string saved. You might get update-grub to run cleanly if you set
updatedefaultentry=false but you get no guarantees what the default
will be then. 

My set up here (which would have been default at one time - I think
this machine had 8.04 installed and then upgraded to 8.10 - I've no
idea if the defaults have changed) has default 0 and both
savedefault and  updatedefaultentry are set to false. This gives the
most recent kernel as the default (this might not work on a dual boot
system - I can't remember if other OSs go before or after the kernel
list for Ubuntu). 

I edited your paste bin entry to mirror my setup:
http://pastebin.com/m20346f7f

Disclaimer: I know nothing about your system and have only a vague
grasp of how grub works. Using this config is at your own risk and
might render your system unbootable and/or kill kittens through my
lack of understanding and/or typos. 

 Robert


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